[00:21] hello, how can i use the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver in KDE? i think the "default" is that this option is NOT set, right? [00:22] ko2: have you just made a new installation? [00:22] yes, a new installation of Kubuntu Hardy Heron, and then updated, and installed libeigen2 from PPA and libdc1394 from PPA [00:22] but i am not logged in in Kubuntu at the moment [00:23] ko2: ok, go to the Kmenu>>applications>>system >> hardware drivers [00:23] and then? i have no kubuntu at the moment [00:24] you hvae no kubuntu? [00:24] i have kubuntu, but not here now [00:24] i am online with ubuntu lucid lynx [00:25] so your in gnome? [00:25] yes [00:25] ok, it may not be in the same location, but there will be a hardware driver application that will allow you to pick your propritary driver [00:25] ok [00:25] you might be able to hit alt-f2 and find it easier [00:26] but You'll need to switch over to #ubuntu if you want more help, I don't know gnome at all [00:27] my problem is as follows: i have Kubuntu Hardy Heron and installed a program. But there is a problem with displaying/rendering. It MIGHT help to use the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver in KDE. [00:27] lspci | grep -i vga [00:27] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated [00:27] Graphics Controller (rev 02) [00:27] that is the grapgics driver i have on the pc where Kubuntu is installed [00:28] what is kubuntu using if it is NOT using the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver? [00:28] ko2: have you tried going into the recovery mode and repairing X? [00:29] ko2: Did you install mesa-utils? [00:29] no i did not try the recovery mode? Why? I have to say that i am rather new to linux (not so new but rather new then a professional) [00:29] i did not install the mesa-utils on my own as an extra, but maybe it was installed with kubuntu automatically? [00:30] if the instal is trying to use the wrong driver or something, the recover can set things back to default and you can go from there [00:30] ko2: why are you running such an old version of kubuntu? also, you can install kde alongside gnome in ubuntu by installing "kubuntu-desktop" from the software center [00:30] i have to use a usb camera which only runs on hardy heron [00:31] is there any advantage if i installed ubuntu with gnome, and then installed KDE (deinstalling GNOME)? [00:31] damned goofy names, what number is hardy? [00:31] hardy is 8.04 [00:32] why will the camera only run on 8.04? [00:33] because the driver uses closed source kernel module for the access to the usb [00:34] it is an older camera with the older driver. The newer cameras run with Lucid Lynx [00:34] dude, for $25 you can get a camera that'll run with no special drivers at all [00:35] it's an industrial camera, not just a webcam [00:35] oh === david is now known as Guest47833 [00:45] I have Ubuntu Hardy Heron on my notebook, too. If i uninstall GNOME, will that cause any problems with my nvidida graphics driver (i installed that manually from Nvidia because my graphics card is too new for Hardy Heron)? [00:45] i want to install KDE [00:47] the nvidia driver is a module for the kernel, KDE and Gnome are just packages that run on top of X they won't affect the driver [01:35] hello, does anyone know of a free VPN service that works well with kubuntu/linux? UltraVPN seems abandoned === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [01:37] rand0m: openvpn? [01:38] wait, you said service, no idea then [01:40] with openVPN would i need to make my own server .. or could i connect to avoid censorship like UltraVPN ? [01:41] because i guess theorectiacly i could make a server at home for me to connect to, but not a option right now [01:41] theoretically* [01:44] Is it somehow possible loading the nouveau open source driver and still using the proprietary in an X session? [01:44] i.e. I have a nice full resolution plymouth splash (via KMS supporting Nouveau) while still using the proprietary driver for the X session? [01:45] BajK_: not as far as I know, but that bug is fixable [01:45] how? since 10.10 I don't even get the graphical screen, I am presented with the text plymouth screen [01:46] (and in Vbox as well.. sometimes) [01:46] BajK_: looking up the link now... [01:46] in 10.04 I at least had the low color graphics screen [01:48] I heard of something like modifying grub‘s kernel string to add the vbeinfo stuff and enable the higher resolution this way [01:48] BajK_: yeah, thats along the lines of what I did [01:49] BajK_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml [01:51] James147: thx, I'll give it a try. It says 1280x1024, will it support 1920x1080 out of the box? or should I stick with a lower 16:9 resolution i.e 1280x720 ? [01:52] BajK_: the values in the tutorial are probally just examples, it should be fine with anything your monitor can suport [01:53] okay [01:54] restarting. [02:02] okay now I at least have the graphical logo but at 640x480, maybe 1920x1080 is just too high for that workaround. trying with 1280x720 [02:07] James147: Definitly looks brilliant now. thanks :) [02:07] so, now I turn on my computer, have some stupid bios messages, then there is the brilliant kubuntu plymouth splash, then the X starts up and I have a kde splash scree that looks exactly like the plymouth theme and then there‘s the desktop :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [02:31] hi [02:31] anyone on? [02:32] kawelo: Hi [02:58] I'm trying to install larn. Now down to compiling from source. The makefile is HTML formatted? [03:07] what's larn? [03:08] it's an old cli game from 1986 [03:08] ah [03:08] html markup sounds....bad [03:08] especially for a CLI game [03:09] like poorly done irony [03:10] * yofel wonders if he should install hardy somewhere so he can play moagg again [03:10] I somehow miss that :/ [03:10] in a vm? [03:11] I think hardy was my first kub. [03:11] probably, maybe ubuntu-vm-builder works again, failed to create a hardy one last time I tried it [03:11] what was before that? [03:11] gutsy [03:11] ah.....lost in the mists of time [03:12] unless I find an old CD somewhere [03:12] get the iso from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ :P [03:14] make up a fake old history of long use? [03:14] lol [03:14] heh [04:21] hullo [04:35] hell oh [04:35] hi :) [04:36] I'm almost done upgrading to 10.10 :3 [04:36] I'm excited [04:37] 10.4 kind of pissed me off, seemed to break alot of my stuff. 10.10 fixed it all though. I like it [04:37] that's good [06:43] Help! My Kubuntu desktop is totally messed up! [06:43] http://i.imgur.com/zKn0N.png [06:43] I dont know what happened [06:44] Running Kubuntu 10.10 [06:44] what happened to the plasma desktop? [06:44] o_o [06:45] that's plasma netbook [06:45] though the widget that lets you switch between Search & Launch and Page One is missing [06:45] from the panel [06:45] I must have closed it by accident [06:45] i dont even know what "page one" is [06:46] its a thing that lets you scroll widgets so you can fit more of them on the screen since on a netbook its hard to fit many at a time [06:47] do you want to go back to plasma desktop or keep plasma netbook? it wouldve automatically chosen which to use based on resolution, but you can switch it in system settings -> workspace [06:47] is it going to automatically go to netbook each time? [06:47] I am using a netbook but I prefer the plasma desktop [06:48] no it should only do it on first run [06:48] after that it should use what you set [07:53] is there a way to roll all the latest updates along with some PPA updates (kubuntu-ppa, mainly) into an install iso? i don't care if it fits on a CD, i'd be using a flash drive to install. [08:00] hello, I have a laptop that boots up to the point where teh kubuntu screen with the marchingdots appears and then stops ... any suggestions? I've tried with several kernels, same result ... maybe reinstall teh base X package? [08:02] I unfortunately have no answers for either of you, but keep in mind it is a slow time on a December weekend...... [08:02] all my IRC channels are dead..... [08:03] CQ: have you read the x log to see what is going on? [08:08] moetunes: gimme a few minutes, I'll have a look... rescue mode booting works fine === muesli_ is now known as muesli [08:46] moetunes: http://pastebin.com/F6AEHi95 has the failsafe.log [08:47] CQ: there was no xorg.0.log? [08:47] moetunes: yes, there is... the failsafe one fails teh same way... i run it, and it exits out [08:47] k [08:48] moetunes: http://pastebin.com/KXZSbncP for the Xorg.0.log [08:52] CQ: the Xorg.0.log doesn't seem complete and the failsafe one doen't mention why it failed - is there a xsession.errors file in your home dir to check? [08:53] moetunes: shouldn't be, it never gets close to the login screen... [08:54] maybe check the kern.log? just a thought [08:54] CQ: ok - those files you posted don't give us a clue - did this happen after an update or you installed something? [08:54] moetunes: the last xsession.errors is from june... [08:54] k [08:55] moetunes: yes, after an update, but it's been about half a year or more, i seldom use this box in kubuntu ... I figured I'd wait a while and see if updates fixed it... I just reinstalled xserver-xorg-core [08:56] anything else to reinstall that would simulate a reinstall of the system? [08:56] one more think I think, after the upgrade, even with older kernels it wouldn't boot anymore... [08:57] that's why I'm focused on something to do with X [08:57] reinstalling didn't seem to change anything, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work either ... let me go back to failsafe and look at the sys logs... [08:57] CQ: it might be a kde issue not x [08:59] moetunes: strange, the CUP fan goes to top speed when it's hanging though... [09:00] hello [09:00] CQ: X seems to start and close fine by the log - could you paste /usr/bin/startkde ? [09:02] moetunes: http://pastebin.com/rJHbsya2 [09:07] moetunes: kern.log doesn't show anything interesting either ... [09:07] k [09:09] moetunes: any ideas on what else to --reinstall ? [09:10] CQ: problem ? [09:10] CQ: sometimes startkde doesn't get written right on updates but yours seems fine - nothing jumps up as an obvious thing to reinstall yet [09:11] Peace-: I have a laptop that boots up to the point where teh kubuntu screen with the marchingdots appears and then stops ... any suggestions? I've tried with several kernels, same result ... maybe reinstall teh base X package? [09:12] CQ: when the marching dots stop does it return you to tty? [09:12] CQ: when the marching dots stop does it return you to tty1? [09:12] CQ: did it work before? [09:12] i mean before you got the desktoo? [09:12] moetunes: in a normal boot they never start, I get the screen with the dots and then it goes black with a cursor and nothing works anymore [09:13] Peace-: it used to work until an update a year or so ago... [09:13] CQ: kde version ? [09:13] CQ: kernel version ? [09:13] kubuntu version ? [09:13] moetunes: failsafe x goes into graphics mode and then right back to the selection menu [09:14] kernel 2.6.32-26-generic [09:14] latest lucid system [09:14] CQ: and you can move the cursor? [09:14] CQ: have you tried with another user? [09:14] no... not with return, space, or arrows. [09:14] Peace-: I never even get close to the logon screen [09:15] CQ: sudo adduser MYUSER ; sudo adduser MYUSER admin [09:15] CQ: ok lets try to fix the box with this [09:15] CQ: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/ [09:16] CQ: but before [09:16] CQ: save this like a bash script [09:16] Peace-: I can get into a root shell just fine, just nothing X works [09:16] CQ: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ [09:16] CQ: so if you can get the terminal like root [09:16] CQ: try to add an user [09:16] and log in with that [09:17] CQ: X works it is a kde error [09:17] moetunes: fine, but if it's a KDE error, it doesn't get close tothe user... [09:17] if so CQ like said moetunes you should try to reinstall kde desktop [09:17] CQ: when you upgrade some upgrade could mess the system [09:18] so .. in these cases you neeed to reinstall kde [09:18] the most of times it work [09:18] s [09:18] Peace-: ouch, can one of you paste one of those reinstalls in such a way that I can wget it' I can't copy paste them fro a web browser obviously... [09:18] or sec, let me wget that page .. [09:18] CQ: like said in my article [09:19] CQ: you can save the string like a bash script [09:19] when you get the terminal like root [09:19] you can load the script [09:19] ./mynamescript [09:19] of course you need netroot [09:19] ... [09:20] Peace-: I know, just getting it from a web page was the issue... I have it now and just need to cut the HTML out [09:20] CQ: there is... a little button [09:20] with copy the code ... [09:21] omg [09:21] CQ: are you a gnome guy? [09:21] xD [09:21] he has no gui [09:21] moetunes: live cd ... [09:22] live cd , copy the code... create the script [09:22] reboot... netroot [09:22] run the script [09:22] . [09:22] Peace-: I have no gui, #only text, hence wget, vi, sh ... [09:22] CQ: use a live cd... [09:22] or a live usb [09:23] or wait [09:23] i will upload on my dropbox [09:23] Peace-: stop, just let me breathe for a sec, I have the reinstall script. [09:23] CQ: make it executable... [09:24] chmod +x nameyoucalledthescript [09:25] Peace-: I've been doing unix for 20 years, I know how to run a script, thanks .. ;) [09:25] CQ: well... then :S [09:25] strange you can't get how to fix stuff [09:26] it's running now ... problem was there was a special character in front of akonadi-server so apt told me akonadi-server didn't exist as a package [09:26] Peace-: I can fix stuff, but if I don't know where teh problem is it's alittle difficult [09:27] when you upgrade packages there is always the probability that some new package has not installed well [09:27] bad packages... [09:27] strange thing . [09:28] strnage new configurations files .... iincompatibility with old one [09:28] always the same stuff everytimes [09:32] hey everyone, can someone link me to a very basic overview of how to use IRC? first time user here [09:32] CQ: yes bad special character [09:32] CQ: fixing the script :S [09:32] christopher: complete a name first... [09:32] christopher: ch the press TAB [09:33] then... [09:33] dunno xD [09:33] well i don't care about irc too much [09:33] complete a name? [09:33] !tab [09:33] christopher: which client are you using? [09:33] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [09:34] konversation [09:35] christopher: some commands to get you started: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html [09:35] moetunes: Peace- ok, reinstall done, retrying... [09:36] luck [09:36] CQ: remember to create a new user to test it [09:36] .. [09:36] CQ: make sure after that you have typed even this [09:36] no luck, same issue. [09:36] sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop [09:37] GabrielYYZ: thanks very much, the list is great. now I just have to figure out how to change my user name? [09:37] CQ: tried moving ~/.kde to ~/kde.bak and logging in ? [09:38] I guess I can do that from within the client [09:38] christopher: for that, you do "/nick *name you want*" without the quotes or asterisks [09:39] Peace-: it fails _before_ getting to the login prompt, so I woudl assume that it has nothing to do with the user... [09:39] remove all kde packages [09:39] purge everything [09:39] clean the cache [09:40] reinstall kde from a nice repository. [09:40] seems a esotic repository in ? [09:40] it looks like it stops working when it wants to go from teh dancing dots screen tot eh login screen... === christopher is now known as cdybeijing [09:41] thanks GabrielYYZ... got it [09:42] cdybeijing: christopher? === cdybeijing is now known as christopher__ [09:42] CQ: or it's a kernel issue... or it's a kde issue === christopher__ is now known as cdybeijing [09:42] http://pastebin.com/q3psyidq sources.list ... all normal... [09:42] yes [09:42] CQ: video card? [09:43] Peace-: if it's a kernel issue, it's across at least 6 kernels... [09:43] cdybeijing: if you want to register that nick do "/msg nickserv password email" password being the password you want and email, the email for that nickname [09:43] Peace-: fujitsu siemens p7010d lifebook [09:43] cdybeijing: sorry, it's "/msg nickserv register password email" [09:44] CQ: hey kid i am trying to help you don't try to kidding me [09:44] CQ: can you try startkde from a tty to bypass kdm the login screen? [09:45] Peace-: I'm not kidding you... I've tried with all the kernels I have installed, and the notebook is that old... [09:45] moetunes: sorry, just following Peace- 's suggestion to remove all dke packages and reinstall [09:46] k [09:46] arh... forgot --purge ... can I somehow purge all configuration files from deinstalled packages = [09:46] ? [09:46] GabrielYYZ: I assume that registered nick is only good for use on Freenode? if I want the same nick on other servers, I have to register there too? [09:47] worth a try [09:47] cdybeijing: other servers have the same nicks, other IRC networks you have to reregister (oftc.net for example) [09:48] yeah, CQ beat me to it [09:48] sorry CQ, what's the difference between a server and a nick? in my original question, maybe I should have said network instead of server, I was thinking of quakenet, ircnet, etc [09:49] I obviously have to reregister new nicks at each one I guess [09:49] cdybeijing: yes [09:49] cdybeijing: apt-get purge package [09:49] itll work even after remove (or at least aptitude purge does, and this is supposed to work the same) [09:49] that does what maco? [09:49] cdybeijing: that's not for you [09:49] xD [09:49] er dang wrong tab [09:49] was for cq [09:50] aptitude purge ~c does it [09:50] ok, installingkubuntu-desktop [09:51] great help from everyone, and I'm not even a kubuntu user - haven't tried anything other than GNOME yet :) [09:51] :S [09:51] gnome is old xD [09:51] we are .... kde 4.6 beta2 [09:51] give kubuntu a try some day, you'll be amazed [09:52] of course purging pulse cdybeijing [09:52] i'm slowly softening up to kubuntu [09:52] xD [09:52] i can't stand this plasma stuff [09:52] kubuntu needs only purge pulse for evil audio card [09:52] and some stuff to increase the speed if youi don't need database [09:53] akonadi stuff xD [09:53] well, it's been mind opening just making the switch to a user friend linux distro in the first place - only happened about 6 months ago due to frustrations and comp problems [09:53] it's a whole new world, really, being freed from the windows chains [09:53] -----> kubuntu 100 mb of ram usage http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/nonepomucknoserachstuff.png?w=600&h=450 [09:53] http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/trick-faster-kubuntu/ [09:53] cdybeijing: i switch to linux in october, switched from ubuntu to kubuntu about 3 weeks ago :P [09:54] switched to linux* [09:54] very similar to me then [09:54] I think I switched from windows in August though [09:54] 3 years old :) the same stuff cdybeijing [09:55] kubuntu has this nice polished look that gnome didn't [09:55] cdybeijing: if you try kde look a this and how to configure well dolphin... there are images http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/ [09:57] i might be crazy but i like nepomuk and akonadi :S [09:57] and strigi [09:57] GabrielYYZ: well i need speed :) [09:57] before stringi nepo adn akonadi [09:58] yeah, i guess mileage may vary [09:59] anyway i have to go.. italy time... time to eat [09:59] Peace-: ok, didn't work either ... [09:59] maybe it's time for a reinstall... faster. [09:59] peace: before you go, is that nowardev blog yours? [10:00] if I really wanted to read an in depth comparision of gnome and kde, where should I look? [10:00] GabrielYYZ: yea [10:01] cdybeijing: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome that one's pretty good [10:01] unfortunately Peace wordpress is blocked in China [10:01] cdybeijing: just try both... isntall ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop package and switch between them and see what you like better, rest of the system is the same [10:01] Peace-: in the 3rd link you posted, WARMING should be WARNING. :) [10:01] GabrielYYZ: xD [10:02] just find that in the repository CQ? [10:02] here there is hot xD [10:02] lol [10:02] cdybeijing: yep, or fromteh command line sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [10:02] GabrielYYZ: fixed [10:03] ty [10:03] no prob [10:03] GabrielYYZ: anyway i am nowardev you will find some nice service menu... and some little script [10:03] hi [10:03] i have no time at all but some could be usefull for a kde user [10:04] speaking of which, which package do I need to install to run gnome desktop? It's not gnome-desktop ... [10:04] ubuntu-desktop [10:05] GabrielYYZ: duh. should have figured it out after the other one is kubuntu-desktop ;) [10:06] haha everyone has blonde moments :P [10:15] hi. is anyone here who worked with ucarp ? [10:18] Anubis: try #debian maybe ... often more techies in there [10:20] Peace-: well, it's not KDE, gdm doesn't start either [10:21] CQ: fresh reinstall [10:21] i have no idea what is happening to your system [10:21] kde is ok gnome is ok [10:21] kernel ?? [10:21] drivers? [10:22] guess you should try a live cd... [10:22] Peace-: yeah, before I look there it's easier and quicker to reinstall [10:22] already wasted too much time on this, but it's fun to play [10:22] CQ: when you have done , make your own iso... [10:23] with every package installed... [10:23] i have make mine .. 1.7 gigs of stuff [10:23] Peace-: not needed, this is a multimedia system... openoffice removed, kaffeine and a music player sintalled done [10:23] if something go bad... i use that [10:23] CQ: multimedia? nice === dawehner is now known as dereine [10:25] CQ: anyway... consider to use remastersys,,, [10:25] Peace-: best use for an old laptop ... [10:26] i use this to do this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_qn2Mb_isx8 [10:26] so automatically create video project [10:26] with kdenlive [10:56] I use Kubuntu 10.04 LTS and I cannot mount DVDs or CDs. When I look in the "Devices recently plugged in" and press "Clik to access device" (to mount it), it says: "Cannot mount the disc." [10:58] What can cause this problem? How do I fix it? [10:58] I have tried with several different CDROMs, audio cds, dvds, etc. === Io is now known as Guest3221 [11:01] tdn: The only thing I can think of is to check wether you're a member of the group "cdrom", you may also try mounting the cdrom as root. I can't help you further but if that doesn't solve the probleem maybe someone else can. [11:01] uid=1000(tdn) gid=1000(tdn) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),105(lpadmin),115(admin),116(sambashare),701(photo),1000(tdn) [11:01] From "id tdn", so I am a member [11:02] Also, I can mount the drive manually from the console without a problem. [11:09] hello, which is the best osx theme ? [11:09] i find several on the web :/ [11:27] Hi all! [11:44] can macbuntu be installed on kubuntu ? [11:44] cause i see it tries to install all gnome packages [11:46] gnome software can be installed on kde [11:46] but... [11:46] kde doesn't need of gtk stuff [11:47] there is always a qt stuff [11:47] yes my problem is that after trying to install the macbuntu i saw too many gnome-relevant packages required [11:48] so i guess i will be running gnome with the osx theme [11:48] and not kde theme with the osx theme [11:48] am i right ? [11:48] Alarm: omg [11:48] what? [11:48] there are a lots of stuff mac style for kde [11:48] you don't need gtk packages... [11:48] there is fancy dock for example [11:48] fot the doc [11:49] well i ended with macbuntu as this looked complete [11:49] cupertino style for kde [11:49] Alarm: well use google ... kde like mac [11:49] or something like that [11:49] there is for sure something like vistar7 [11:49] but for mac [11:49] ok, i will give it a try [11:49] thanks [12:15] привет === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:20] !ru superwizard [12:20] !ru | superwizard [12:20] superwizard: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [12:25] is there a way to get kopete to support irc??? [12:28] hi folks [12:28] hi senorpedro [12:29] my desktop basically just "died", meaning no background image and no toolbar anymore. how can i restart this? [12:29] shane4ubuntu: kopete in KDE 4 doesn't do IRC, you'll need to use Quassel or Konversation [12:29] (you can do fancy things like jabber to irc gateways if you really want) [12:29] senorpedro: alt+F2 plasma-desktop [12:29]