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dooglus11.04 doesn't have a working wubi installer I don't think - I read that somewhere recently03:26
nit-witdooglus, not for a lopng time03:27
nit-witlong03:27
dooglusnit-wit: that guy you were arguing with earlier was trying to do a wubi install03:28
nit-witdooglus, who was I arguing withh I forget03:28
dooglus'detrate'03:29
dooglushe had an ATI card which didn't work well in 10.10 so he was trying 11.04 but unable to install03:29
dooglusI have an ATI card which doesn't work well in 11.04 too03:29
doogluswhat's that PPA you mentioned?03:29
nit-witdooglus, it wasn't a arguement but realizing that the IRC is limited in its scope with new users03:29
dooglusubuntu-x-swat?  what's in it?03:30
nit-witdooglus, x-swat I get the link03:30
bjsniderati cards do not work well in linux03:30
dooglusI have the link - but am currently in a virtual console due to X issues...03:30
bjsnidernews flash03:30
nit-witdooglus, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates03:31
dooglusnit-wit: thanks :)03:31
dooglusin 10.10 I could use the '-vo xv' mode in mplayer but it doesn't work in 11.0403:31
dooglusany idea why that might be?  unity is all messed up too, graphically03:32
nit-witdooglus, I like the IRC but I find a real mix of the expert to the clueless I'm in their closer to the clueless, but I know when I'm there.;)03:32
dooglusnit-wit: I find I almost never get a useful answer to any question I ask in IRC03:32
dooglusnit-wit: I assume that puts me towards the expert end of the spectrum03:33
dooglusnit-wit: either that, or everyone hates me03:33
nit-witdooglus, if they hate you they hate me welcome to the club.;)03:34
dooglusnit-wit: do you have an unanswered question I might be able to help you with?03:35
nit-witdooglus, what is the meaning of life anyway, otherwise I'm just on the channels03:35
dooglusnit-wit: there is no meaning.  enjoy it while you can because you're a long time dead03:36
dooglushope that helps03:36
nit-witdooglus, star dust is what I am and always will be.03:36
dooglusnit-wit: boing boing recently told me that the days of the week were named after the 7 'planets' as they were thought to be in oldern times - saturnday, sunday, moonday, etc.03:37
dooglusbut I fail to see how the other 4 refer to planels03:38
dooglusweird typo03:38
nit-witdooglus, never heard that but heh why not, the funny thing is the matter carbon based life is made of wasn't created by the big bang but super nova's03:39
nit-withard to say if the big bang was anymore then a theory03:40
nit-witis/was03:41
dooglusis it just me or is this channel a lot quieter than it has been for previous development cycles?03:43
nit-witdooglus, I didn't know about it till a week ago03:44
yofeldooglus: it's alpha time, it'll be busier after like A3 and quite busy for beta03:44
yofeland the answer to the meaning of life is 42 by the way :P03:46
dooglusyofel: I just checked logfile sizes.  it's pretty much the same as this time last year03:47
yofelyeah, there aren't that many of us brave folks out there03:47
doogluswikileaks.org is back up, but redirects to a real wiki.  odd.03:48
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error_203hi any one can tell me how 11.04 alpha 1 is working06:28
crimsuncarefully? sometimes? not at all?06:28
crimsunchoose two of the three06:28
holsteini would say an advanced testing state06:28
error_203k06:28
error_203so it is stable or not06:28
holsteinits in testing06:29
error_203i mean to say that is it is good06:29
holsteini wouldnt call it stable til its done06:29
error_203k06:29
holsteindepends on what your doing06:29
holsteinand how adventerous you are i suppose06:30
error_203is 3d features in it ?06:30
error_203its on unity?06:31
holsteinunity AFAIK06:31
holsteinim here more for ubuntustudio06:31
holsteinwhich is still on gnome06:31
error_203oh06:32
error_203m only come here to know abt this m using bt406:32
holsteini think there is so many changes going on06:32
holsteinyou really need to just grab a live daily06:32
holsteinand see about it06:32
error_203don't have much time, working related to security pen testing using backtrack06:33
error_203k thanx buddy c u again06:33
holstein:)06:34
coz_good day10:57
TopGearhey11:38
TopGearthe grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do...11:39
TopGearIt gives me an Unknow Filesystem error11:39
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TopGearhello foks13:36
TopGearfolks13:36
TopGearthe grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do...13:36
TopGearunknown file system13:36
TopGearwhat should i do to fix it?13:36
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BUGabundoguud afternuun o/14:51
CosmiChaosyehaa i'm diving through the ocean of failure right on the back of a crumpy narwhale :D15:32
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BookmanHoly cow, is this the way Ubuntu is going????  With this new interface?17:05
penguin42Bookman: It's less bad than I feared, although it's still being worked on I guess, and it seems easier to disable than I'd feared17:09
BookmanI am afraid I'm jumping ship!  I have 6 machines plus my PO17:10
BookmanS systems and I don't like where it is going.17:10
penguin42Bookman: I can understand - out of interest which ship are you jumping to?17:10
BookmanMandriva17:10
penguin42nod, not tried that for a long time my self17:11
BookmanYup.  Tried it way back in Mandrake 7.0 I believe17:11
penguin42Bookman: If you just want to disable Unity, go into the compiz settings manager and untick the Unity plugin17:12
BookmanNo, I want a distro that I can stay current with17:13
BookmanSomething that I don't have to 'disable' features on.17:14
penguin42yep, I understand17:15
BookmanToo bad as Ubuntu was something I could depend upon.  And so did my users.17:16
cdbsNo, please don't disable the Unity plugin!17:16
cdbsIf you want to avoid unity, then please use the classic desktop session instead17:17
penguin42Bookman: The other option is just to log in using the 'Ubuntu Classic desktop' option - that gets you the old style17:17
penguin42cdbs: 1) Why 2) Does classic get you compiz?17:17
cdbspenguin42: yes, and PLEASE don't tell people to disable the plugin, it leads to a blank desktop17:17
cdbspenguin42: classic gets you to the old-style desktop with panels17:17
penguin42cdbs: Please can you justify why that happens?17:17
cdbspenguin42: Because there is nothing to replace unity17:18
BookmanThere you go.  This new interface is a disaster in my opinion.  Maybe I'm just old fashioned.17:18
penguin42cdbs: OK, where is this documented - what's really going on when you choose classic and when you don't ?17:18
cdbspenguin42: it isn't documented (don't seek docs when it comes to dev releases) but seb128 said it once on the #ubuntu-desktop channel17:19
cdbsand someone posted it (along with other gotchas) on planet ubuntu17:19
penguin42url?17:19
penguin42cdbs: So what does 'classic' do - does it get me just metacity or does it get me either metacity or compiz based on previous settings?17:19
cdbsthe latter17:20
cdbsbased on previous settings17:20
cdbsI just read it plain on planet.ubuntu.com around 3 weeks ago, can't remember who wrote it17:20
BookmanWell, the best of luck with the new Unity interface.....I have machines to change over!17:25
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bencahillratcheer: ah! :)23:18
ratcheerYes23:18
bencahillratcheer: I see a couple of mods in here, it probably just doesn't have much activity :)23:20
ratcheerA couple of days ago, I lost Unity. A few more updates and it came back, but the top panel is empty except for the Ubuntu application link. No menus, no indicators. Can anyone help?23:20
penguin42ratcheer: Yeh the top menu isn't happy for me either23:24
penguin42I suspect the 'unity-panel-ser' segfault I'm seeing in dmesg is the likely problem23:25
ratcheerpenguin42: Thanks. So, just wait for future updates, hoping to fix it?23:25
penguin42ratcheer: Yeh or go and fix it!23:26
ratcheerpenguin42: Its funny that no bugs are reported on Launchpad, except for one that is just for IBM video cards.23:26
penguin42IBM video cards? They haven't made any in decades23:27
ratcheerpenguin42: Sorry, I mean Intel.23:28
penguin42yeh, well I am running on an Intel one23:28
ratcheerpenguin42: Mine is nvidia, but the problem seems very similar.23:29
penguin42I guess it's not related to teh GL driver then23:29
ratcheerpenguin42: I can get you a link to the bug, if you want.23:29
penguin42just say bug number here23:29
ratcheerIt is 66720823:33
penguin42bug 66720823:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 667208 in unity (Ubuntu) "[i915GM] no top panel no menu bar" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66720823:33
ratcheerGreat work, ubottu23:34
penguin42it's good like that23:35
penguin42I suspect there are a whole bunch of related bugs23:37
penguin42ratcheer: So do you see exactly what that describes - i.e. are you missing the side bar as well?23:39
penguin42heck, it downloaded the m->n update in not long at all, butit's saying 2hours 11 to install it23:40
ratcheerpenguin42: No, everything seems fine on mine except the empty top panel.23:43
penguin42yeh, all good here except no top panel - I have my old one23:43
ratcheerI'm not sure what you mean...23:44
penguin42ratcheer: I used to have a gnome panel at the top of my display prior to upgrade, it's still there - the old gnome-panel not the new unity one23:44
ratcheerpenguin42: Ok. Anyway, I guess I'll just wait for future updates. I've already updated this afternoon, but no change to my top panel problem. I have 19 held updates, but none of them seem to have anything to do with it.23:46
penguin42Welcome to the Alpha releases23:47
ratcheerYeah, I know. At least natty is better than Lucid was. Maverick was pretty smooth sailing, for me.23:47

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