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dooglus | 11.04 doesn't have a working wubi installer I don't think - I read that somewhere recently | 03:26 |
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nit-wit | dooglus, not for a lopng time | 03:27 |
nit-wit | long | 03:27 |
dooglus | nit-wit: that guy you were arguing with earlier was trying to do a wubi install | 03:28 |
nit-wit | dooglus, who was I arguing withh I forget | 03:28 |
dooglus | 'detrate' | 03:29 |
dooglus | he had an ATI card which didn't work well in 10.10 so he was trying 11.04 but unable to install | 03:29 |
dooglus | I have an ATI card which doesn't work well in 11.04 too | 03:29 |
dooglus | what's that PPA you mentioned? | 03:29 |
nit-wit | dooglus, it wasn't a arguement but realizing that the IRC is limited in its scope with new users | 03:29 |
dooglus | ubuntu-x-swat? what's in it? | 03:30 |
nit-wit | dooglus, x-swat I get the link | 03:30 |
bjsnider | ati cards do not work well in linux | 03:30 |
dooglus | I have the link - but am currently in a virtual console due to X issues... | 03:30 |
bjsnider | news flash | 03:30 |
nit-wit | dooglus, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 03:31 |
dooglus | nit-wit: thanks :) | 03:31 |
dooglus | in 10.10 I could use the '-vo xv' mode in mplayer but it doesn't work in 11.04 | 03:31 |
dooglus | any idea why that might be? unity is all messed up too, graphically | 03:32 |
nit-wit | dooglus, I like the IRC but I find a real mix of the expert to the clueless I'm in their closer to the clueless, but I know when I'm there.;) | 03:32 |
dooglus | nit-wit: I find I almost never get a useful answer to any question I ask in IRC | 03:32 |
dooglus | nit-wit: I assume that puts me towards the expert end of the spectrum | 03:33 |
dooglus | nit-wit: either that, or everyone hates me | 03:33 |
nit-wit | dooglus, if they hate you they hate me welcome to the club.;) | 03:34 |
dooglus | nit-wit: do you have an unanswered question I might be able to help you with? | 03:35 |
nit-wit | dooglus, what is the meaning of life anyway, otherwise I'm just on the channels | 03:35 |
dooglus | nit-wit: there is no meaning. enjoy it while you can because you're a long time dead | 03:36 |
dooglus | hope that helps | 03:36 |
nit-wit | dooglus, star dust is what I am and always will be. | 03:36 |
dooglus | nit-wit: boing boing recently told me that the days of the week were named after the 7 'planets' as they were thought to be in oldern times - saturnday, sunday, moonday, etc. | 03:37 |
dooglus | but I fail to see how the other 4 refer to planels | 03:38 |
dooglus | weird typo | 03:38 |
nit-wit | dooglus, never heard that but heh why not, the funny thing is the matter carbon based life is made of wasn't created by the big bang but super nova's | 03:39 |
nit-wit | hard to say if the big bang was anymore then a theory | 03:40 |
nit-wit | is/was | 03:41 |
dooglus | is it just me or is this channel a lot quieter than it has been for previous development cycles? | 03:43 |
nit-wit | dooglus, I didn't know about it till a week ago | 03:44 |
yofel | dooglus: it's alpha time, it'll be busier after like A3 and quite busy for beta | 03:44 |
yofel | and the answer to the meaning of life is 42 by the way :P | 03:46 |
dooglus | yofel: I just checked logfile sizes. it's pretty much the same as this time last year | 03:47 |
yofel | yeah, there aren't that many of us brave folks out there | 03:47 |
dooglus | wikileaks.org is back up, but redirects to a real wiki. odd. | 03:48 |
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error_203 | hi any one can tell me how 11.04 alpha 1 is working | 06:28 |
crimsun | carefully? sometimes? not at all? | 06:28 |
crimsun | choose two of the three | 06:28 |
holstein | i would say an advanced testing state | 06:28 |
error_203 | k | 06:28 |
error_203 | so it is stable or not | 06:28 |
holstein | its in testing | 06:29 |
error_203 | i mean to say that is it is good | 06:29 |
holstein | i wouldnt call it stable til its done | 06:29 |
error_203 | k | 06:29 |
holstein | depends on what your doing | 06:29 |
holstein | and how adventerous you are i suppose | 06:30 |
error_203 | is 3d features in it ? | 06:30 |
error_203 | its on unity? | 06:31 |
holstein | unity AFAIK | 06:31 |
holstein | im here more for ubuntustudio | 06:31 |
holstein | which is still on gnome | 06:31 |
error_203 | oh | 06:32 |
error_203 | m only come here to know abt this m using bt4 | 06:32 |
holstein | i think there is so many changes going on | 06:32 |
holstein | you really need to just grab a live daily | 06:32 |
holstein | and see about it | 06:32 |
error_203 | don't have much time, working related to security pen testing using backtrack | 06:33 |
error_203 | k thanx buddy c u again | 06:33 |
holstein | :) | 06:34 |
coz_ | good day | 10:57 |
TopGear | hey | 11:38 |
TopGear | the grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do... | 11:39 |
TopGear | It gives me an Unknow Filesystem error | 11:39 |
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TopGear | hello foks | 13:36 |
TopGear | folks | 13:36 |
TopGear | the grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do... | 13:36 |
TopGear | unknown file system | 13:36 |
TopGear | what should i do to fix it? | 13:36 |
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BUGabundo | guud afternuun o/ | 14:51 |
CosmiChaos | yehaa i'm diving through the ocean of failure right on the back of a crumpy narwhale :D | 15:32 |
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Bookman | Holy cow, is this the way Ubuntu is going???? With this new interface? | 17:05 |
penguin42 | Bookman: It's less bad than I feared, although it's still being worked on I guess, and it seems easier to disable than I'd feared | 17:09 |
Bookman | I am afraid I'm jumping ship! I have 6 machines plus my PO | 17:10 |
Bookman | S systems and I don't like where it is going. | 17:10 |
penguin42 | Bookman: I can understand - out of interest which ship are you jumping to? | 17:10 |
Bookman | Mandriva | 17:10 |
penguin42 | nod, not tried that for a long time my self | 17:11 |
Bookman | Yup. Tried it way back in Mandrake 7.0 I believe | 17:11 |
penguin42 | Bookman: If you just want to disable Unity, go into the compiz settings manager and untick the Unity plugin | 17:12 |
Bookman | No, I want a distro that I can stay current with | 17:13 |
Bookman | Something that I don't have to 'disable' features on. | 17:14 |
penguin42 | yep, I understand | 17:15 |
Bookman | Too bad as Ubuntu was something I could depend upon. And so did my users. | 17:16 |
cdbs | No, please don't disable the Unity plugin! | 17:16 |
cdbs | If you want to avoid unity, then please use the classic desktop session instead | 17:17 |
penguin42 | Bookman: The other option is just to log in using the 'Ubuntu Classic desktop' option - that gets you the old style | 17:17 |
penguin42 | cdbs: 1) Why 2) Does classic get you compiz? | 17:17 |
cdbs | penguin42: yes, and PLEASE don't tell people to disable the plugin, it leads to a blank desktop | 17:17 |
cdbs | penguin42: classic gets you to the old-style desktop with panels | 17:17 |
penguin42 | cdbs: Please can you justify why that happens? | 17:17 |
cdbs | penguin42: Because there is nothing to replace unity | 17:18 |
Bookman | There you go. This new interface is a disaster in my opinion. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. | 17:18 |
penguin42 | cdbs: OK, where is this documented - what's really going on when you choose classic and when you don't ? | 17:18 |
cdbs | penguin42: it isn't documented (don't seek docs when it comes to dev releases) but seb128 said it once on the #ubuntu-desktop channel | 17:19 |
cdbs | and someone posted it (along with other gotchas) on planet ubuntu | 17:19 |
penguin42 | url? | 17:19 |
penguin42 | cdbs: So what does 'classic' do - does it get me just metacity or does it get me either metacity or compiz based on previous settings? | 17:19 |
cdbs | the latter | 17:20 |
cdbs | based on previous settings | 17:20 |
cdbs | I just read it plain on planet.ubuntu.com around 3 weeks ago, can't remember who wrote it | 17:20 |
Bookman | Well, the best of luck with the new Unity interface.....I have machines to change over! | 17:25 |
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bencahill | ratcheer: ah! :) | 23:18 |
ratcheer | Yes | 23:18 |
bencahill | ratcheer: I see a couple of mods in here, it probably just doesn't have much activity :) | 23:20 |
ratcheer | A couple of days ago, I lost Unity. A few more updates and it came back, but the top panel is empty except for the Ubuntu application link. No menus, no indicators. Can anyone help? | 23:20 |
penguin42 | ratcheer: Yeh the top menu isn't happy for me either | 23:24 |
penguin42 | I suspect the 'unity-panel-ser' segfault I'm seeing in dmesg is the likely problem | 23:25 |
ratcheer | penguin42: Thanks. So, just wait for future updates, hoping to fix it? | 23:25 |
penguin42 | ratcheer: Yeh or go and fix it! | 23:26 |
ratcheer | penguin42: Its funny that no bugs are reported on Launchpad, except for one that is just for IBM video cards. | 23:26 |
penguin42 | IBM video cards? They haven't made any in decades | 23:27 |
ratcheer | penguin42: Sorry, I mean Intel. | 23:28 |
penguin42 | yeh, well I am running on an Intel one | 23:28 |
ratcheer | penguin42: Mine is nvidia, but the problem seems very similar. | 23:29 |
penguin42 | I guess it's not related to teh GL driver then | 23:29 |
ratcheer | penguin42: I can get you a link to the bug, if you want. | 23:29 |
penguin42 | just say bug number here | 23:29 |
ratcheer | It is 667208 | 23:33 |
penguin42 | bug 667208 | 23:33 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 667208 in unity (Ubuntu) "[i915GM] no top panel no menu bar" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667208 | 23:33 |
ratcheer | Great work, ubottu | 23:34 |
penguin42 | it's good like that | 23:35 |
penguin42 | I suspect there are a whole bunch of related bugs | 23:37 |
penguin42 | ratcheer: So do you see exactly what that describes - i.e. are you missing the side bar as well? | 23:39 |
penguin42 | heck, it downloaded the m->n update in not long at all, butit's saying 2hours 11 to install it | 23:40 |
ratcheer | penguin42: No, everything seems fine on mine except the empty top panel. | 23:43 |
penguin42 | yeh, all good here except no top panel - I have my old one | 23:43 |
ratcheer | I'm not sure what you mean... | 23:44 |
penguin42 | ratcheer: I used to have a gnome panel at the top of my display prior to upgrade, it's still there - the old gnome-panel not the new unity one | 23:44 |
ratcheer | penguin42: Ok. Anyway, I guess I'll just wait for future updates. I've already updated this afternoon, but no change to my top panel problem. I have 19 held updates, but none of them seem to have anything to do with it. | 23:46 |
penguin42 | Welcome to the Alpha releases | 23:47 |
ratcheer | Yeah, I know. At least natty is better than Lucid was. Maverick was pretty smooth sailing, for me. | 23:47 |
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