=== yofel_ is now known as yofel === ryokea is now known as ryokea_ === ryokea_ is now known as ryo_ === ryo_ is now known as ryokea [03:26] 11.04 doesn't have a working wubi installer I don't think - I read that somewhere recently [03:27] dooglus, not for a lopng time [03:27] long [03:28] nit-wit: that guy you were arguing with earlier was trying to do a wubi install [03:28] dooglus, who was I arguing withh I forget [03:29] 'detrate' [03:29] he had an ATI card which didn't work well in 10.10 so he was trying 11.04 but unable to install [03:29] I have an ATI card which doesn't work well in 11.04 too [03:29] what's that PPA you mentioned? [03:29] dooglus, it wasn't a arguement but realizing that the IRC is limited in its scope with new users [03:30] ubuntu-x-swat? what's in it? [03:30] dooglus, x-swat I get the link [03:30] ati cards do not work well in linux [03:30] I have the link - but am currently in a virtual console due to X issues... [03:30] news flash [03:31] dooglus, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates [03:31] nit-wit: thanks :) [03:31] in 10.10 I could use the '-vo xv' mode in mplayer but it doesn't work in 11.04 [03:32] any idea why that might be? unity is all messed up too, graphically [03:32] dooglus, I like the IRC but I find a real mix of the expert to the clueless I'm in their closer to the clueless, but I know when I'm there.;) [03:32] nit-wit: I find I almost never get a useful answer to any question I ask in IRC [03:33] nit-wit: I assume that puts me towards the expert end of the spectrum [03:33] nit-wit: either that, or everyone hates me [03:34] dooglus, if they hate you they hate me welcome to the club.;) [03:35] nit-wit: do you have an unanswered question I might be able to help you with? [03:35] dooglus, what is the meaning of life anyway, otherwise I'm just on the channels [03:36] nit-wit: there is no meaning. enjoy it while you can because you're a long time dead [03:36] hope that helps [03:36] dooglus, star dust is what I am and always will be. [03:37] nit-wit: boing boing recently told me that the days of the week were named after the 7 'planets' as they were thought to be in oldern times - saturnday, sunday, moonday, etc. [03:38] but I fail to see how the other 4 refer to planels [03:38] weird typo [03:39] dooglus, never heard that but heh why not, the funny thing is the matter carbon based life is made of wasn't created by the big bang but super nova's [03:40] hard to say if the big bang was anymore then a theory [03:41] is/was [03:43] is it just me or is this channel a lot quieter than it has been for previous development cycles? [03:44] dooglus, I didn't know about it till a week ago [03:44] dooglus: it's alpha time, it'll be busier after like A3 and quite busy for beta [03:46] and the answer to the meaning of life is 42 by the way :P [03:47] yofel: I just checked logfile sizes. it's pretty much the same as this time last year [03:47] yeah, there aren't that many of us brave folks out there [03:48] wikileaks.org is back up, but redirects to a real wiki. odd. === rx007_ is now known as rx007 [06:28] hi any one can tell me how 11.04 alpha 1 is working [06:28] carefully? sometimes? not at all? [06:28] choose two of the three [06:28] i would say an advanced testing state [06:28] k [06:28] so it is stable or not [06:29] its in testing [06:29] i mean to say that is it is good [06:29] i wouldnt call it stable til its done [06:29] k [06:29] depends on what your doing [06:30] and how adventerous you are i suppose [06:30] is 3d features in it ? [06:31] its on unity? [06:31] unity AFAIK [06:31] im here more for ubuntustudio [06:31] which is still on gnome [06:32] oh [06:32] m only come here to know abt this m using bt4 [06:32] i think there is so many changes going on [06:32] you really need to just grab a live daily [06:32] and see about it [06:33] don't have much time, working related to security pen testing using backtrack [06:33] k thanx buddy c u again [06:34] :) [10:57] good day [11:38] hey [11:39] the grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do... [11:39] It gives me an Unknow Filesystem error === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [13:36] hello foks [13:36] folks [13:36] the grub in kubuntu 11.04 doesn't do what I want it to do... [13:36] unknown file system [13:36] what should i do to fix it? === emma is now known as em [14:51] guud afternuun o/ [15:32] yehaa i'm diving through the ocean of failure right on the back of a crumpy narwhale :D === ganesh is now known as Guest83259 [17:05] Holy cow, is this the way Ubuntu is going???? With this new interface? [17:09] Bookman: It's less bad than I feared, although it's still being worked on I guess, and it seems easier to disable than I'd feared [17:10] I am afraid I'm jumping ship! I have 6 machines plus my PO [17:10] S systems and I don't like where it is going. [17:10] Bookman: I can understand - out of interest which ship are you jumping to? [17:10] Mandriva [17:11] nod, not tried that for a long time my self [17:11] Yup. Tried it way back in Mandrake 7.0 I believe [17:12] Bookman: If you just want to disable Unity, go into the compiz settings manager and untick the Unity plugin [17:13] No, I want a distro that I can stay current with [17:14] Something that I don't have to 'disable' features on. [17:15] yep, I understand [17:16] Too bad as Ubuntu was something I could depend upon. And so did my users. [17:16] No, please don't disable the Unity plugin! [17:17] If you want to avoid unity, then please use the classic desktop session instead [17:17] Bookman: The other option is just to log in using the 'Ubuntu Classic desktop' option - that gets you the old style [17:17] cdbs: 1) Why 2) Does classic get you compiz? [17:17] penguin42: yes, and PLEASE don't tell people to disable the plugin, it leads to a blank desktop [17:17] penguin42: classic gets you to the old-style desktop with panels [17:17] cdbs: Please can you justify why that happens? [17:18] penguin42: Because there is nothing to replace unity [17:18] There you go. This new interface is a disaster in my opinion. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. [17:18] cdbs: OK, where is this documented - what's really going on when you choose classic and when you don't ? [17:19] penguin42: it isn't documented (don't seek docs when it comes to dev releases) but seb128 said it once on the #ubuntu-desktop channel [17:19] and someone posted it (along with other gotchas) on planet ubuntu [17:19] url? [17:19] cdbs: So what does 'classic' do - does it get me just metacity or does it get me either metacity or compiz based on previous settings? [17:20] the latter [17:20] based on previous settings [17:20] I just read it plain on planet.ubuntu.com around 3 weeks ago, can't remember who wrote it [17:25] Well, the best of luck with the new Unity interface.....I have machines to change over! === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [23:18] ratcheer: ah! :) [23:18] Yes [23:20] ratcheer: I see a couple of mods in here, it probably just doesn't have much activity :) [23:20] A couple of days ago, I lost Unity. A few more updates and it came back, but the top panel is empty except for the Ubuntu application link. No menus, no indicators. Can anyone help? [23:24] ratcheer: Yeh the top menu isn't happy for me either [23:25] I suspect the 'unity-panel-ser' segfault I'm seeing in dmesg is the likely problem [23:25] penguin42: Thanks. So, just wait for future updates, hoping to fix it? [23:26] ratcheer: Yeh or go and fix it! [23:26] penguin42: Its funny that no bugs are reported on Launchpad, except for one that is just for IBM video cards. [23:27] IBM video cards? They haven't made any in decades [23:28] penguin42: Sorry, I mean Intel. [23:28] yeh, well I am running on an Intel one [23:29] penguin42: Mine is nvidia, but the problem seems very similar. [23:29] I guess it's not related to teh GL driver then [23:29] penguin42: I can get you a link to the bug, if you want. [23:29] just say bug number here [23:33] It is 667208 [23:33] bug 667208 [23:33] Launchpad bug 667208 in unity (Ubuntu) "[i915GM] no top panel no menu bar" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/667208 [23:34] Great work, ubottu [23:35] it's good like that [23:37] I suspect there are a whole bunch of related bugs [23:39] ratcheer: So do you see exactly what that describes - i.e. are you missing the side bar as well? [23:40] heck, it downloaded the m->n update in not long at all, butit's saying 2hours 11 to install it [23:43] penguin42: No, everything seems fine on mine except the empty top panel. [23:43] yeh, all good here except no top panel - I have my old one [23:44] I'm not sure what you mean... [23:44] ratcheer: I used to have a gnome panel at the top of my display prior to upgrade, it's still there - the old gnome-panel not the new unity one [23:46] penguin42: Ok. Anyway, I guess I'll just wait for future updates. I've already updated this afternoon, but no change to my top panel problem. I have 19 held updates, but none of them seem to have anything to do with it. [23:47] Welcome to the Alpha releases [23:47] Yeah, I know. At least natty is better than Lucid was. Maverick was pretty smooth sailing, for me.