[00:00] hehe [00:01] does anything actually still use 6502? [00:01] ldahttp://www.ffd2.com/fridge/chacking/c=hacking1.txt [00:01] i know z80 is still in use [00:01] oops. - lda [00:01] http://www.ffd2.com/fridge/chacking/c=hacking1.txt [00:01] a good start .. get your c64 emulator out and.. [00:01] :) [00:01] Interestingly, my terminal correctly recognised the first one. [00:02] The best way to learn machine language is to actually code routines that you [00:02] don't think will work, hope that they work, and then figure out why they don't [00:02] work. (If they do work, you try to figure out why you didn't think they'd [00:02] work). Ie: THE BEST WAY TO LEARN ANY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE IS TO PROGRAM IN [00:02] THAT LANGUAGE. [00:02] yes [00:02] scuse the multi-line accident. i like that though :) [00:02] this is what i was saying earlier :) [00:03] :) [00:04] you don't need no steeking books [00:04] *steenking [08:10] i have returned [08:10] * MartijnVdS runs away [08:11] oh come on i'm not that scary [08:33] morning all o/ [08:33] G'morning! [08:33] hi Apacheuk [08:35] so whats on the agenda today then? [08:35] gym, gt5 :) [08:35] http://imgur.com/Z1CPF.jpg [08:42] * Phineas giggles [08:43] still as funny as hell [09:06] wife just brought up a lovely bacon roll and a cup of tea :) [09:12] Apacheuk, lucky [09:20] Apacheuk, === Phineas is now known as Phineas_ [09:32] bot alert by far === Phineas_ is now known as Phineas [10:01] was lovely... nom nom nom [10:02] Apacheuk, lucky [10:34] nag nag nag nag [10:34] http://i.imgur.com/MCzfJ.jpg [10:53] how can I add a samba user without having a linux user? (or at least a linux user that can do anything but access samba shares) [10:58] simple question, long hard answer [10:59] SAMBA has lots of good documentation on how to set up different scenarios [10:59] http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ [11:00] http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/passdb.html [11:02] morning [11:03] MartijnVdS: thanks [11:03] hi jacobw [11:05] o/ [11:20] Morning [11:29] morning daubers [11:54] AlanBell: Are you coming up today? :) [12:09] boo! [12:25] hey that's my line !!! [13:03] issyl0: would love to, but don't think I can this time :( [13:20] AlanBell: aww, shame. :( [13:22] Why might a mic record at a low volume with gnome-sound-recorder, not show any levels in gome-volume-control and not work at all with Skype. Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition. [13:22] balor, bad mic? it won't be working with skype because its so quiet it can't detect any voices [13:23] "Mic amplification" flag is off in the mixer? [13:23] balor: I've git my mini 9 working here fine with skype [13:23] balor: nothing muted at all ? [13:24] * gord sighs - can't even stream music on wifi today [13:24] czajkowski: noting is muted [13:24] odd [13:24] balor: pics! [13:24] MartijnVdS: I don't see that flag, am I being dumb? [13:24] :D [13:25] czajkowski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQbTQmHGjcQ [13:25] balor: it might not be there [13:25] balor: USB or "normal" mic? [13:25] balor: if "normal", did you plug it into the "mic" hole? (instead of line in) [13:26] balor: awwww [13:26] MartijnVdS: it's an on-board jobbie [13:26] balor: what does the monster think of it all? [13:26] MartijnVdS: And I have Duplex turned on. It strangely works with gnome-sound-recorder. [13:26] czajkowski: I don't think it's hit him yet [13:26] czajkowski: but he's not a massive fan [13:27] heh [13:32] It works with an external USB mike :( [13:33] I don't get this [13:33] balor: it's the built-in soundcard that either doesn't have a mic amp or dosn't have it turned on [13:36] MartijnVdS: ok....I'll go looking for a magical switch. Is this one of those cases where alsa-tools helps and magical kernel parameters? [13:36] Blimey it's easy to freeze your nads off out there today [13:37] I am getting very disappointed with Ubuntu, my much trusted friend till now. I have searched in packages and software centre under 'science'... there's nothing listed as "AN INSTANT CURE FOR FLU" :{ [13:37] * suprengr sulks and thinks of "One FLU Over The Cuckoo's Nest" [13:39] daubers: that's what you get for getting on a _motorbike_ in winter :) [13:41] Found, my issue, but no fix http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/34732 [13:41] MartijnVdS: Yeah, but it's _masses_ of fun :D [13:41] until you hit a spot of black ice and die [13:42] dutchie: Nonesense [13:43] dutchie: It's not that bad out anyway! It's positive numbers out there. [13:56] indeed, the weather is much better now than it has been in the past few weeks [13:57] the top of the ice thawing is a bit dangerous though [13:58] jacobw: I've registered my interest in starting the OU thing in October === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [13:59] daubers: cool :) which module? [14:00] The new one which is replacing the main level 1 ones [14:00] daubers: so by registering your interest, you'll get an email telling you when you can register? [14:00] TU100 I think [14:00] ergh. "My digital life" [14:00] jacobw: Yeah, and can apply for the finance at that point to see if it's affordable [14:01] jacobw: Yeah, reading into it it's relativley interesting once your past the title. There's some hardware implimentation stuff in it [14:01] jacobw: The titles very unfortunate though [14:01] daubers: yes, i don't think it is as bad as the title makes it sound, but i'd still prefer to do M150 and T175, not least because i already have a body of knowledge surrounding T175 [14:01] jacobw: Heh :) [14:02] jacobw: I've done enough arduno stuff now to think that I have similar with TU100 :) [14:03] daubers: i've decided to read K&R, because it is shorter (finish it before Christmas?) than the Java book and more enjoyable [14:03] jacobw: \o/ Everyone should read K&R [14:04] daubers: i keep reading the examples, pausing to improve the examples and then reading on to find they've improved the example in a way 100x better than mine [14:04] daubers: i think this is called.. learning :) [14:06] heh [14:06] jacobw: Always nice to feel you're catching up with the authors though [14:08] yeah :) === emma is now known as em [14:19] em: "em" makes me think of http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail79.html [14:29] Looks like my PA is using the "wrong" internal mic. I should be using front [14:29] But I've no idea how to fix this [14:30] balor: you can't select it from the sound preferences? [14:31] MartijnVdS: no. [14:31] MartijnVdS: seems to be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/434520 [14:34] hmm...seeing some levels now...but very low [14:43] balor: shouldn' you be oooing and ahhhhing over new LTS ? [14:44] next LTS is quite far away still :-) [14:44] czajkowski: You'd think that. I have to solve this for the mother-in-law [14:45] whos machine is it ? [14:45] czajkowski: Mother in law's Ubuntu netbook [14:45] ah she's there with ye [14:45] But it's about 7angsts of frustration away from being a Fedora netbook [14:45] naturallly, not really what you want to deal with today tbh [14:46] nope [14:46] ah. sound problems. won't be able to help with that I'm afraid. [14:46] Now _no_ sound is working...I broked it all [14:47] don't install fedora on a netbook, unpacking RPMs takes forever [14:47] balor: step away from the machine, go make a cuppa tea, go cuddle newbie and then come back to it. if mother in law is there it can wait [14:47] jacobw: That characterisation of Fedora is about 5 years old and no, with presto RPM and RPM improvements, plainly false [14:50] yum -i apt [14:50] :-P [14:56] * gord is hacking on fun unity stuffs today [14:57] fun way to spend a sunday [14:57] gord: sounds like you're taking a swap day? ;-) [14:58] faaar to much to do before january for that ;) [14:59] gord: january is ages away [15:00] factor in christmas downtime, its like two weeks away [15:00] czajkowski: I wish january was ages away, but it's really not :-/ [15:01] i only have this week then i'm on winter holidays as well, thats not a lot of time at all [15:02] aye was 3 weeks Friday [15:02] hmm dear taxi company please answer so I can book one [15:03] Pendulum: Munster won :D [15:03] why can't taxi companies just have a text number or website for booking, its like its the 90's permanently with them [15:04] because people would put in mangled addresses etc [15:04] drunk people... [15:04] and drunk people on the phone are easy to handle? [15:05] czajkowski: have you got addlee where you are? then tend to be quite good in London at least. [15:05] easier, yes [15:05] you can tell how drunk they are for one thing [15:06] czajkowski: yay! [15:08] ali1234: all you need is an "are you drunk" tickbox [15:08] would solve everything [15:08] god damn it. my glögg cravings are unstatisfiable... [15:08] lol [15:08] dutchie, something tells me an "are you not drunk" checkbox would be more accurate [15:08] or just make the text small and hard to read [15:09] "i'm not NOT drunk!!!1" [15:10] just put in a long password. helps on my computers when I'm less sober. [15:13] or just make the text small and hard to read [15:13] focus follows mouse fail :( [15:15] hi ubuntu-uk [15:16] i have this issue, and first i asked my gran, shes 92 ya know, now i will ask the experts [15:16] firefox crashes when i right click on flash, what should i do? [15:16] skybinary: stop right clicking on flash? [15:16] Nafallo, NAN is that you? [15:17] it seemed to be the obvious answer :-) [15:17] :) [15:18] booked taxi [15:18] what about gnash, is that not an option? [15:18] it is an option. I can't speak to the relevance of your interest however. [15:19] a solution [15:22] i found a solution, if your not void of a sense of humour it may entertain you [15:22] it says, right click on the flash and go to options [15:23] haha [15:27] My mic issue is this one http://getsatisfaction.com/jolicloud/topics/deaf_internal_mic_on_acer_aspire_one effing strange if you ask me [15:28] Oh....now I understand. *I think* there are two mics doing noise cancellation! [15:30] For the days of a mono - dumb mic! [15:37] Is there a way to control fan speed within ubuntu? [15:38] Hello [15:39] hi there [15:40] how are you? [15:42] how do i get to vimtutor? [15:43] ignore me, that was a stupid question [15:44] just wondered if any of you can help me find the log for last nights meeting of #ubuntuadverts. I looked in http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/ but can't find any log that looks like the one I want. [15:44] paln97 good thanks - how are you? [15:47] urcminister: Possibly best to ask in #ubuntu-irc I don't think I've ever heard of that channel in the official channel list, so if its a private/team channel, it may not be logged [15:49] urcminister: Thats more of an admin channel for the #ubuntu* namespace so there may be somebody there who can help, although it might take a while to get an answer, its fairly quiet normally [15:49] Just go the answer from another member of the team. It is logged, but the URL is down. Thanks anyway. Bye. [15:49] urcminister: No worries [16:15] czajkowski: ping [16:18] Hey guys! [16:20] hello [16:21] Afternoon [16:21] Can anyone help me with booting from my Live CD? [16:22] whats the issue? [16:23] It's a 10.04 CD [16:23] I select "Install Ubuntu" from the menu and all is going fine... [16:23] but after a while the orange/white dots freeze [16:25] paln: how much ram does the machine have? [16:26] the computer should tell you during boot up [16:30] I'll find out now [16:31] It doesn't say at the POST screen at boot [16:32] it probably does in the BIOS [16:33] what is the make/model of computer? [16:34] It's an AMI BIOS dated at 2001...wanting to replace WinME [16:35] if you boot into the BIOS it will almost certainly tell you how much RAM the devices has [16:35] I'm looking it up in Lavalys' Everest [16:35] a machine of 2001 vintage probably has 128MB or less RAM I would imagine [16:35] which wouldn't be suitable for Ubuntu [16:35] hm... [16:36] What is the minimum required? [16:36] 256MB is the absolute minimum [16:36] but I'd recommend more if possible [16:37] Well I might upgrade my RAM to somewhere around 2GB soon, but for now I'm not too sure [16:37] xubuntu and lubuntu run on old computers [16:37] lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu [16:37] I'm checking in the BIOS now... [16:39] also crunchbang is worth a look [16:40] crunchbag? [16:40] I've never heard of that before [16:41] #! [16:41] uh oh [16:41] On my CMOS menu I have "Main;Advanced;Security;Exit" tabs at the top [16:42] where do you think the RAM would be listed? [16:42] I can't seem to find it [16:42] Just discovered Jarvis Cocker's Sunday Service. How wonderful and mellow :) [16:43] paln: main [16:44] hi [16:44] popey: any joy with the Joggler? [16:44] popey: my joggler nuked 2 MicroSD cards :( [16:45] both got bad sectors [16:45] eek [16:45] It shows date/time, floppy drives, "Primary IDE Master: 20417 MB", "Primary IDE Slave: Not Installed", "Secondary IDE Master: DVD-ROM" and "Secondary IDE Slave: CDROM" [16:45] ubuntu is ok its not great [16:45] I need to seak and distroy existing partitions on the memory stick [16:46] the ubuntu uk podcasts are rubbish i listened to 2 minutes of them [16:46] @bigcalm: why not use Windows Computer Management or GPartEd [16:46] * Azelphur slaps coffeebean8888 around a bit with a large trout [16:46] coffeebean8888: careful :o [16:46] ha ha [16:47] popey? [16:50] popey, are you there? [16:52] paln: yup [16:52] who has snow? [16:52] so, where do you think my RAM is...? [16:52] paln: inside your computer [16:53] Azelphur: using jolicloud 1.1 at the moment [16:53] in a feild [16:53] in a feild [16:53] popey: cool, I still need to try that [16:53] popey: I get that, but where in my CMOS [16:53] do u have sheep? === heeed_ is now known as heeed [16:54] coffeebean8888: shut up :P [16:54] paln: i dunno, I can't see your computer, can I? [16:54] u have ram but no sheep? [16:54] paln: boot with the live CD. Open a terminal and type: free [16:54] bigcalm: i suspect it doesnt have enough ram to boot the live cd [16:55] popey: I thought it was the install that was failing [16:55] sure, but he's chosen "install ubuntu" which doesn't start the full desktop [16:55] if the installer wont run, I'd be certain the desktop wont boot either [16:55] Ah [16:56] An old machine of mine would refuse to install any OS completely because the CMOS battery was flat. Weird but replacing it allowed an OS install [16:56] heh === ryan_ is now known as a2asd [16:56] bigcalm: really? cos that doesn't seem to make much sense... [16:57] ooo snow warning from thursday [16:57] win [16:58] paln: is there an OS on the machine already? [16:58] paln: what make and model of pc is it? [16:58] paln: that's what it came down to [17:01] It's a Packard Bell, made 2001, not sure of the model either, but it has Windows Millenium Edition (crap) on it [17:01] Sleet forecast for Thursday. Anything could happen between now and then [17:01] yeah end of week its snow [17:01] Including me telling you to talk about something linux-related, bigcalm [17:02] bigcalm: Talk about something Linux-related! [17:02] I told you [17:02] gord hate cmake! gord smash! [17:02] paln: chill [17:02] ... [17:02] paln: boot into Windows ME and determine RAm from there? [17:02] I shall talk about kittens instead :) [17:02] \o/ kittens === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 16th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Christmas party http://ubunt.eu/c2 ☃ | Kittens \o/ \o/ [17:02] kittens with mittens? [17:03] 3D kittens! [17:03] I've seen some really cute kittens in TV adverts recently [17:03] Want want want! [17:03] popey: so what do you think? [17:04] paln: observe the two lines above [17:04] 17:02:27 < popey> paln: boot into Windows ME and determine RAm from there? [17:06] popey: How? [17:06] paln: right click "my computer" choose "properties" [17:06] it tells you at the bottom how much ram it has [17:06] I can't seem to find any info anywhere! [17:06] Ok then [17:09] It's 128MB of RAM [17:09] :) [17:09] as I suspected :) [17:09] After all that! [17:10] exobuzz: where did you get the jolicloud iso from? [17:10] So in order to load Ubiquity I need how much RAM? [17:10] popey: http://www.jolicloud.com/ [17:10] there's a Windows Installer and an ISO image [17:10] ooo 1.1 available for download now [17:10] cool [17:11] it was 1.0 when I last looked [17:11] yea [17:11] they released it pretty recently [17:11] i'd say last week! [17:11] yeah [17:11] Ok, so how old are all you guys? [17:11] Just asking [17:12] A little older than our teeth [17:12] age here ranges from 13 to 40 or thereabouts [17:12] s/older/younger/ [17:12] teeth start growing before you're born [17:12] really? [17:12] hm... [17:13] Ah, but the teeth I have now I did not have when I was born [17:13] yes you did [17:13] hehe :D [17:13] unless they're false [17:13] Some are :S [17:13] :) [17:13] Well, crowns [17:13] popey: have your aldult teeth already started growing at birth? [17:14] moreati: i was just wondering the same thing... [17:14] they're inside your gums AIUI [17:14] "AIUI"? [17:14] As I Understand It [17:15] ah! [17:16] Just found out that I haven't updated any packages on my eeepc since installing 10.10 on 10/10/10. This could take a while [17:16] :) [17:16] bigcalm: um...wouldn't Update Manager do that FOR you? [17:16] :/ [17:17] * bigcalm crosses his fingers and wishes that Unity will not be there upon reboot [17:17] you can disable it in the gdm menu [17:17] paln: I haven't used the netbook for a long time [17:17] oh...netbokk [17:17] Also, I tend to manage updates from the CLI [17:17] now that makes sense! [17:18] well that's kinda dumb [17:18] (no offence!) [17:18] Plenty taken [17:18] ;) [17:21] bigcalm: do you have netbook edition or regular edition on your netbook? [17:21] Pendulum: netbook [17:22] It was UNR and I did a dist upgrade [17:22] bigcalm: so you already had unity on it from when you dist upgraded? [17:22] Pendulum: I would think it obvious to have the Netbook edition on a netbook, seeing as most netbooks don't have CD drives and the interface would be cleaner for such a small screen [17:23] paln: I use desktop on my netbook [17:23] Pendulum: nope [17:23] bigcalm: if you didn't already have unity as the main desktop for 10.10, I don't see why it'd change it to do updates [17:23] * bigcalm shrugs [17:24] Pendulum: I'm fairly sure it will become the default if you upgrade to Natty [17:24] (You can still select 'classic') [17:24] penguin42: yeah, but he was talking about doing updates on a netbook, not upgrading to Natty [17:24] oh ok, that shouldn't change from where it was I guess [17:25] Not just now [17:25] I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 [17:25] At that point it installed Unity [17:27] bigcalm: right. but that was in October if I understand correctly, yes? [17:27] Yes [17:27] penguin42: Yup, Natty will transfer Unity to the Desktop Edition aswell, but the classic GNOME interface is accessable before typing your password [17:27] It's had Unity since October [17:27] Could be why I haven't used it since [17:27] paln: Yeh, This <---- machine is running natty [17:28] bigcalm: you can install desktop. works fine on my Mini10v [17:28] (with a 16GB SSD) [17:28] If you look on 10.10 when you click your name, at the bottom it lists only "Ubuntu Desktop Edition" unless you install Unity [17:28] paln: the netbook 10.10 is unity [17:31] yea, but not on desktop [17:31] unless you install it [17:31] paln: right, but we've been talking about a netbook [17:31] where the person said they had UNR or UNE (whichever it is now) [17:32] you can just do "sudo apt-get install unity" [17:32] then restart [17:42] What's everyone up to? [17:44] 30mins later I get to reboot. That was productive [17:45] haha! [17:55] danfish pong [17:58] * DJones offers danfish some deodourant [17:59] danfush on train to bath. on later or email me [18:05] This SanDisk usb stick has a fake CD-ROM partition that I can not get rid of. I think that's why I can't get the Joggler to boot with it [18:05] Time to dig out another stick and try again [18:07] bigcalm: Try the usb_modeswitch program [18:08] (not taht I know how to drive it) [18:09] Heavy === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [18:15] Hey guys, I'm back! === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [18:22] popey: know of any distros that can handle 128MB of RAM? [18:25] paln: debian? [18:26] I was thinking aside Debian itself but OK. [18:26] What about U-Lite? [18:27] Does that work <128MB RAM [18:31] paln: do you remember earlier on when you were here? [18:31] there were 3 suggestions given [18:31] lubuntu, xubuntu and crunchbang [18:31] #! [18:32] alrity then [18:32] thx popey [18:32] I'll probably try them out... [18:32] Hi all. I need to get 3 more 'fans' on this Facebook page so I can set a vanity URL for it, would anyone like to 'like' it for ten minutes or so as a favour? :) http://www.facebook.com/pages/Police-State-UK/166638310038400 [18:32] denny: you should know better than this [18:33] denny: Why ask here? [18:33] popey: sup [18:33] popey: i was listening to an episode of your podcast yesterday [18:33] I should? I thought this channel was okay with a bit of off-topicness, particularly if it's relevant to UK [18:34] !politics [18:34]