gem_cat | studio wiped my passwords - what happened? | 03:52 |
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gem_cat | i am doing a clean install of ubuntu now | 03:53 |
gem_cat | my instinct is to change passwords befofre rebooting studio - but why should I need to do that? | 03:54 |
gem_cat | also the limits setting on Jack, does that affect what software gets installed? I wouldnt think so but it comes in the middle of the install | 04:02 |
gem_cat | ok thanks - t&e works ... eventually | 04:35 |
ronj | hi | 06:22 |
ronj | testing Natty; I keep having "Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted" errors when starting jack with Qjackctl, though my realtime setup is done as usual | 06:23 |
holstein | interesting... | 06:24 |
ronj | are there new/specific things to do? | 06:24 |
holstein | does it run? | 06:24 |
ronj | hi holstein | 06:24 |
holstein | OK? | 06:24 |
holstein | hey :) | 06:24 |
ronj | no it doesn't | 06:24 |
holstein | :/ | 06:24 |
holstein | ronj: have you hit up the list? | 06:25 |
ronj | not yet | 06:25 |
holstein | i havnet had a chance to get an install going | 06:25 |
holstein | natty | 06:25 |
ronj | yup | 06:25 |
holstein | i hope to before it releases ;) | 06:25 |
ronj | I reinstalled with todays iso and no longer have my gdm problem | 06:25 |
holstein | AH | 06:25 |
holstein | thats progress | 06:25 |
ronj | and now this, but I figured I may have forgotten something... | 06:25 |
ronj | ^^ | 06:26 |
holstein | ronj: does sudo qjackctl do it? | 06:26 |
holstein | just to double check permissions | 06:26 |
ronj | uhm no | 06:29 |
ronj | same error | 06:29 |
ronj | and yup my user is in the "audio" group | 06:29 |
holstein | could be some JACK thing i guess | 06:30 |
holstein | maybe an updated package borking up the works | 06:30 |
Blank__ | :O | 08:06 |
Blank__ | ronj! | 08:06 |
Blank__ | the same ronj who released two albums in ardour as CC? | 08:06 |
ronj | Blank__, hello | 08:07 |
ronj | yup | 08:07 |
ronj | ^^ | 08:07 |
ronj | glad you ask | 08:08 |
Blank__ | ronj, I had a go at mixing a track or two from that, had to fiddle around a bit because the ardour sessions were in mono for "naked"? | 08:08 |
ronj | Blank__, all I did till now is pure mono. I'm not at all an audio engineer, and I thought that instead of borking stereo stuff I'd rather do my best at mono stuff | 08:09 |
Blank__ | ah... | 08:09 |
ronj | one day I'll do a proper stereo album with competent people :P | 08:09 |
Blank__ | ardour 2.x can't make mono masters into stereo, so i had to add a stereo buss and mix to that :P | 08:09 |
Blank__ | not that i can claim to fully understand the intricacies of stereo mixing | 08:10 |
Blank__ | i let a few people have a listen to it, including an audio engineer with 20 years' experience, and my mum didn't like "Lies", she thought it was too depressing :p | 08:10 |
ronj | ^^ | 08:11 |
ronj | and what did the engineer say? | 08:12 |
Blank__ | the engineer thought it was an interesting sound, we listened to it in his studio with Mackie speakers | 08:12 |
Blank__ | very... dark sounding | 08:12 |
Blank__ | i pointed out it was all done with SM57/58 | 08:12 |
ronj | wow hey you probably had better gear than I did | 08:12 |
ronj | this was done on Logitech crap | 08:12 |
Blank__ | he had Mackie HR824s | 08:12 |
ronj | :P | 08:12 |
Blank__ | ...i think that's the name of them, i don't like them, too bright | 08:12 |
Blank__ | aluminium tweeters >.< | 08:13 |
Blank__ | i mixed the track using Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro headphones | 08:13 |
Blank__ | because my monitors are Bose 301s | 08:13 |
Blank__ | :P | 08:13 |
Blank__ | from the early 70s | 08:13 |
ronj | I'm soooooooo lost in all this pro audio stuff | 08:14 |
ronj | for my next record I'm going to take some audio engineering lessons, and do it with experienced people | 08:15 |
ronj | Blank__, do you have some compos online? | 08:16 |
Blank__ | compos? | 08:17 |
Blank__ | i have a rough mix of your "Lies" track i could upload if you like | 08:17 |
Blank__ | but no real compositions of my own, just random crap I recorded years ago | 08:17 |
ronj | ok | 08:17 |
ronj | sure I'd be glad to hear your mix | 08:18 |
ronj | what kind of music are you into? | 08:18 |
Blank__ | alternative rock, a bit of acoustic | 08:19 |
Blank__ | i play guitar so naturally i like guitar-based music | 08:19 |
ronj | k | 08:19 |
Blank__ | just had to grab my phone, the mixdown was on there | 08:19 |
ronj | Blank__, "alternative rock, a bit of acoustic" >> makes me think I just got four tickets for Godspeed You! Black Emperor in April in Montreal, I'm soooooo happy to finally see them | 08:21 |
ronj | do you know Godspeed? | 08:21 |
Blank__ | I've heard of them, but not very well | 08:22 |
ronj | Blank__, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA&fmt=18 | 08:22 |
ronj | gods | 08:22 |
Blank__ | just uploading the mix now | 08:24 |
Blank__ | it's ogg 192kbps | 08:24 |
ronj | yay! | 08:24 |
Blank__ | i haven't fixed the taps on the guitar yet | 08:25 |
Blank__ | http://blankw.okapi.feralhosting.com/ronj/1_lies_rough_9_11_10.ogg | 08:25 |
Blank__ | there's also some more stuff I want to do towards the end | 08:25 |
ronj | I like the dynamics you added around 1:10 | 08:27 |
Blank__ | yeah, i wanted it to "bite" a bit | 08:27 |
Blank__ | i kept the vocals a bit bright, too | 08:27 |
ronj | Blank__, if you wish so, send me your email, I'll have you in the loop when I start the work on my new album | 08:29 |
Blank__ | oo, sounds good | 08:29 |
Blank__ | there y'go | 08:29 |
Blank__ | i should finish that mix, it has potential | 08:29 |
Blank__ | i feel that i'm better at mastering though, as i get overwhelmed if someone throws a stack of sources to mix at me | 08:30 |
Blank__ | but i liked how you put each track in an ardour session, that was easy enough to deal with | 08:31 |
ronj | :P | 08:31 |
ronj | Blank__, that's because I record everything separately | 08:31 |
ronj | (I had no other choice till now) | 08:31 |
Blank__ | ah yep | 08:31 |
ronj | just sent you an email | 08:32 |
Blank__ | i've had the potential to record stuff in multitrack for a while but i haven't as I don't have anything to record | 08:32 |
Blank__ | but yeah, i really like your stuff | 08:32 |
ronj | thanks :) . more to come, I have currently four new songs, and I'd like to add some beats to this | 08:34 |
Blank__ | oh, nice | 08:34 |
ronj | do something less minimalistic | 08:34 |
Blank__ | yeah | 08:35 |
Blank__ | spread your wings a bit :p | 08:35 |
ronj | yup ^^ . I played two of them live just acoustic some months ago : "france" and "reborn" at http://www.youtube.com/user/ronjandfriends | 08:36 |
ronj | Hi I'm still stuck at running Jack/Natty, help welcome. I sent an email to the devel list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-December/002873.html | 22:13 |
holstein | ronj: | 22:20 |
holstein | can you run JACK without the firewire device? | 22:20 |
holstein | im wondering if its JACK or FFADO | 22:20 |
ronj | hm trying | 22:23 |
ronj | holstein, jack works fine with alsa on my intel hda | 22:37 |
holstein | ronj: interesting | 22:39 |
holstein | not sure what we can learn from that... | 22:39 |
holstein | seems like FFADO though | 22:39 |
holstein | instead of permissions | 22:40 |
holstein | i mean.. | 22:40 |
holstein | or permissions | 22:40 |
holstein | instead of JACK | 22:40 |
ronj | holstein, what do you mean? | 22:45 |
ronj | any ideas of other things I should test? | 22:46 |
* holstein thinking... | 22:46 | |
ronj | :P | 22:46 |
holstein | ronj: is the old freebob driver still there? | 22:46 |
ronj | rrright, good idea | 22:47 |
ronj | uh no | 22:47 |
ronj | the menu item is there, but then "unknown driver freebob" | 22:48 |
holstein | i think its been on the remove list for a while | 22:48 |
ronj | gonna ask on #ardour | 22:49 |
holstein | i would ask in #jack | 22:49 |
holstein | maybe #ffado | 22:49 |
holstein | the ffado mailing list | 22:49 |
holstein | #ardour is smart too though | 22:49 |
holstein | and active | 22:49 |
ronj | yup | 22:49 |
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