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gem_catstudio wiped my passwords - what happened?03:52
gem_cati am doing a clean install of ubuntu now03:53
gem_catmy instinct is to change passwords befofre rebooting studio - but why should I need to do that?03:54
gem_catalso the limits setting on Jack, does that affect what software gets installed? I wouldnt think so but it comes in the middle of the install04:02
gem_catok thanks - t&e works ... eventually04:35
ronjhi06:22
ronjtesting Natty; I keep having "Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted" errors when starting jack with Qjackctl, though my realtime setup is done as usual06:23
holsteininteresting...06:24
ronjare there new/specific things to do?06:24
holsteindoes it run?06:24
ronjhi holstein06:24
holsteinOK?06:24
holsteinhey :)06:24
ronjno it doesn't06:24
holstein:/06:24
holsteinronj: have you hit up the list?06:25
ronjnot yet06:25
holsteini havnet had a chance to get an install going06:25
holsteinnatty06:25
ronjyup06:25
holsteini hope to before it releases ;)06:25
ronjI reinstalled with todays iso and no longer have my gdm problem06:25
holsteinAH06:25
holsteinthats progress06:25
ronjand now this, but I figured I may have forgotten something...06:25
ronj^^06:26
holsteinronj: does sudo qjackctl do it?06:26
holsteinjust to double check permissions06:26
ronjuhm no06:29
ronjsame error06:29
ronjand yup my user is in the "audio" group06:29
holsteincould be some JACK thing i guess06:30
holsteinmaybe an updated package borking up the works06:30
Blank__:O08:06
Blank__ronj!08:06
Blank__the same ronj who released two albums in ardour as CC?08:06
ronjBlank__, hello08:07
ronjyup08:07
ronj^^08:07
ronjglad you ask08:08
Blank__ronj, I had a go at mixing a track or two from that, had to fiddle around a bit because the ardour sessions were in mono for "naked"?08:08
ronjBlank__, all I did till now is pure mono. I'm not at all an audio engineer, and I thought that instead of borking stereo stuff I'd rather do my best at mono stuff08:09
Blank__ah...08:09
ronjone day I'll do a proper stereo album with competent people :P08:09
Blank__ardour 2.x can't make mono masters into stereo, so i had to add a stereo buss and mix to that :P08:09
Blank__not that i can claim to fully understand the intricacies of stereo mixing08:10
Blank__i let a few people have a listen to it, including an audio engineer with 20 years' experience, and my mum didn't like "Lies", she thought it was too depressing :p08:10
ronj^^08:11
ronjand what did the engineer say?08:12
Blank__the engineer thought it was an interesting sound, we listened to it in his studio with Mackie speakers08:12
Blank__very... dark sounding08:12
Blank__i pointed out it was all done with SM57/5808:12
ronjwow hey you probably had better gear than I did08:12
ronjthis was done on Logitech crap08:12
Blank__he had Mackie HR824s08:12
ronj:P08:12
Blank__...i think that's the name of them, i don't like them, too bright08:12
Blank__aluminium tweeters >.<08:13
Blank__i mixed the track using Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro headphones08:13
Blank__because my monitors are Bose 301s08:13
Blank__:P08:13
Blank__from the early 70s08:13
ronjI'm soooooooo lost in all this pro audio stuff08:14
ronjfor my next record I'm going to take some audio engineering lessons, and do it with experienced people08:15
ronjBlank__, do you have some compos online?08:16
Blank__compos?08:17
Blank__i have a rough mix of your "Lies" track i could upload if you like08:17
Blank__but no real compositions of my own, just random crap I recorded years ago08:17
ronjok08:17
ronjsure I'd be glad to hear your mix08:18
ronjwhat kind of music are you into?08:18
Blank__alternative rock, a bit of acoustic08:19
Blank__i play guitar so naturally i like guitar-based music08:19
ronjk08:19
Blank__just had to grab my phone, the mixdown was on there08:19
ronjBlank__, "alternative rock, a bit of acoustic" >> makes me think I just got four tickets for Godspeed You! Black Emperor in April in Montreal, I'm soooooo happy to finally see them08:21
ronjdo you know Godspeed?08:21
Blank__I've heard of them, but not very well08:22
ronjBlank__, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA&fmt=1808:22
ronjgods08:22
Blank__just uploading the mix now08:24
Blank__it's ogg 192kbps08:24
ronjyay!08:24
Blank__i haven't fixed the taps on the guitar yet08:25
Blank__http://blankw.okapi.feralhosting.com/ronj/1_lies_rough_9_11_10.ogg08:25
Blank__there's also some more stuff I want to do towards the end08:25
ronjI like the dynamics you added around 1:1008:27
Blank__yeah, i wanted it to "bite" a bit08:27
Blank__i kept the vocals a bit bright, too08:27
ronjBlank__, if you wish so, send me your email, I'll have you in the loop when I start the work on my new album08:29
Blank__oo, sounds good08:29
Blank__there y'go08:29
Blank__i should finish that mix, it has potential08:29
Blank__i feel that i'm better at mastering though, as i get overwhelmed if someone throws a stack of sources to mix at me08:30
Blank__but i liked how you put each track in an ardour session, that was easy enough to deal with08:31
ronj:P08:31
ronjBlank__, that's because I record everything separately08:31
ronj(I had no other choice till now)08:31
Blank__ah yep08:31
ronjjust sent you an email08:32
Blank__i've had the potential to record stuff in multitrack for a while but i haven't as I don't have anything to record08:32
Blank__but yeah, i really like your stuff08:32
ronjthanks :) . more to come, I have currently four new songs, and I'd like to add some beats to this08:34
Blank__oh, nice08:34
ronjdo something less minimalistic08:34
Blank__yeah08:35
Blank__spread your wings a bit :p08:35
ronjyup ^^ . I played two of them live just acoustic some months ago : "france" and "reborn" at http://www.youtube.com/user/ronjandfriends08:36
ronjHi I'm still stuck at running Jack/Natty, help welcome. I sent an email to the devel list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-December/002873.html22:13
holsteinronj:22:20
holsteincan you run JACK without the firewire device?22:20
holsteinim wondering if its JACK or FFADO22:20
ronjhm trying22:23
ronjholstein, jack works fine with alsa on my intel hda22:37
holsteinronj: interesting22:39
holsteinnot sure what we can learn from that...22:39
holsteinseems like FFADO though22:39
holsteininstead of permissions22:40
holsteini mean..22:40
holsteinor permissions22:40
holsteininstead of JACK22:40
ronjholstein, what do you mean?22:45
ronjany ideas of other things I should test?22:46
* holstein thinking...22:46
ronj:P22:46
holsteinronj: is the old freebob driver still there?22:46
ronjrrright, good idea22:47
ronjuh no22:47
ronjthe menu item is there, but then "unknown driver freebob"22:48
holsteini think its been on the remove list for a while22:48
ronjgonna ask on #ardour22:49
holsteini would ask in #jack22:49
holsteinmaybe #ffado22:49
holsteinthe ffado mailing list22:49
holstein#ardour is smart too though22:49
holsteinand active22:49
ronjyup22:49

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