| BUGabundo | Merry Xtmas everyone <3 http://goo.gl/SzUUv | 00:38 |
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| penguin42 | Hi BUGabundo | 01:01 |
| BUGabundo | yo my pal | 01:01 |
| * penguin42 is waiting for his netbook for finish an upgrade; it got an error about a failure part way thorugh so it's not happy | 01:04 | |
| bjsnider | vlc must be using a built-in amplifier or something, because it has a volume control that is clearly separate from pulse even if it's using pulse as the audio driver | 01:07 |
| penguin42 | well, surprisingly it's survived the update even given the python errors, and shockingly unity works | 01:26 |
| alteregoa | i got a problem with my smargo cardreader | 02:58 |
| alteregoa | i get a error unable to read latency -32 | 02:58 |
| alteregoa | accfnording to this url https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/62073/ i have to patch that, but i don't know how | 02:59 |
| alteregoa | 29.082179] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: Unable to read latency timer: -32 | 03:02 |
| Volkodav | man patch | 03:09 |
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| djhash | So i'm testing out 11.4 on VirtualBox.. I wanted to change my password but I couldn't find.. "Users and Groups" under system->Admin.. is this because it being in alpha.. or was it intentionally removed? | 07:13 |
| rww | djhash: It's part of gnome-system-tools, which got removed deliberately per http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-meta_1.209/changelog . I don't know the rationale. | 07:39 |
| rww | djhash: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/performance-desktop-n-install-footprint -> Looks like the plan is to replace it with GNOME 3's user admin tool. | 07:42 |
| djhash | thanks | 07:43 |
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| coz_ | hey guys...so far in unity there is no alt-F2 run dialog...are there plans to change this? | 11:33 |
| zniavre_ | coz_, hello im reading you are using unity > im installing right now an old radeon supplied laptop do you think unity will work? | 12:14 |
| penguin42 | zniavre_: Does compiz work? and how old a radeon? | 12:15 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, not sure about the ati card though ,,,if it doesn support that card you will be dropped to classic gnome | 12:15 |
| zniavre_ | penguin42, compiz is running (slowly) with this 320m igp video card | 12:15 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, compiz 0.8 or 0.9 | 12:16 |
| zniavre_ | haha good question last working compiz was with 10.04 | 12:16 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, unity is using 0.9 so you may get a slight speed boost | 12:16 |
| zniavre_ | i hav no luck with unity and gnome-shell no one of my computers can make them works im quite sad about it | 12:17 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, and not much is enabled by default ...expo for sure is enabled and zoom animation I believe by default | 12:17 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, gnome-shell sucks mainly because of mutter | 12:18 |
| zniavre_ | maybe i can't try it ... :o( | 12:18 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, well unity doesnt use mutter | 12:18 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, compiz replaces that | 12:18 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, but it is compiz 0.9.x | 12:18 |
| zniavre_ | unity can't works with nvidia drivers right ? | 12:18 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, works fine here with nvidia | 12:19 |
| zniavre_ | ha ? | 12:19 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, the issue is only before you install the nvidia driver... | 12:19 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, at first you will be dropped to classic gnome desktop...then install the driver ,,then it should boot into unity | 12:20 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, sometimes nothing shows on the desktop prior to nvidia driver install | 12:20 |
| zniavre_ | even if i hav already nvidia drivers installed? | 12:20 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, well is unity already installed? | 12:20 |
| zniavre_ | no | 12:20 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, oh | 12:21 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, then the drivers wont be installed | 12:21 |
| zniavre_ | i fact i wanted to try unity but it looks vbox can't run it | 12:21 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, ah | 12:21 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, I dont think it will work virtually | 12:21 |
| zniavre_ | so i installed my alod laptop but what you said few lines ago make me think this card can't handle unity (and compiz now) | 12:22 |
| zniavre_ | alod > old* | 12:22 |
| zniavre_ | but if you said unity can work now with compiz and nvidia driver im thinking about installing 11.04 on my pc | 12:22 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, cant hurt to try | 12:23 |
| zniavre_ | :o) | 12:23 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, :) | 12:23 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, unity on a "single" monitor is fine | 12:23 |
| zniavre_ | i really want to see and to know if unity make us love gnome-shell or gnome-desktop | 12:23 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, on dual monitors because of global menu ... neraly useless | 12:23 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, well actually its not gnome-shell | 12:24 |
| coz_ | zniavre_, its compiz/unity | 12:24 |
| zniavre_ | do you know if app-indicator is done by global-menu team ? | 12:24 |
| coz_ | not sure | 12:24 |
| zniavre_ | i hav the feeling they were a bit "stolen" of their works (even for new firefox globalmenu xpi) | 12:25 |
| zniavre_ | hope stolen is nt too radical but it's the only word i know for this | 12:26 |
| zniavre_ | :o) | 12:26 |
| zniavre_ | so thank you for answering let's see first if the laptop can use unity | 12:27 |
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| CosmiChaos | does ubuntu natty narwhale will have support for transparent hugepage? | 13:11 |
| coz_ | mm running gnome-about-me gives me (gnome-about-me:2813): libebook-WARNING **: e-book.c:2245: cannot get book from factory: Invalid source | 13:24 |
| coz_ | mm also noticed that setting an new item in the menu to "Applications in terminal" it doesnt work | 13:34 |
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| coz_ | zniavre_, did you go ahead with the install? | 14:27 |
| IdleOne | What is the status with python 2.7? | 15:11 |
| IdleOne | have the rebuilds finished, settled down? | 15:11 |
| Volkodav | does not look finished last time I checked | 15:15 |
| susundberg | Hello. I am having bad performance with KDE file browser -- opening the 'open' and 'save as' dialogs take quite much more time than what it should | 16:06 |
| susundberg | any idea on problem source? | 16:06 |
| susundberg | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144718 <- this talks something about 'tracker' but its not installed in natty? | 16:06 |
| susundberg | (or is the problem solely on kubuntu natty?) | 16:06 |
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| pace_t_zulu | anyone know where the "recover a broken system" option is on natty alpha 1 live cd? | 17:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | so i see that i have to go int "Try Ubuntu" | 17:37 |
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| charlie-tca | pace_t_zulu: the option was removed completely in maverick, I think. You now use the live environment instead | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | o/ | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | o/ | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | who wants an head hake? | 19:52 |
| charlie-tca | me, me | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | I take on every day ;-) | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | no | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | you want pain killers | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | oh, yeah, that's right | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | Hard to keep it all straight sometimes ;-) | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | if it works, | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | humm compiz and ubuntu-desktop in circular depencies?? Amaranth | 20:17 |
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| lucas-arg | heey guys, is broadcom wireless cards going to be supported in 11.04 out of the box? | 20:57 |
| lucas-arg | i heard soemthing about broadcom wireless being added to the kernel or something like that | 20:59 |
| lucas-arg | knock knock | 21:01 |
| histo | they have written drivers I don't know if they are open | 21:07 |
| histo | You could always fire up 11.04 and see but I'm not sure if they are added yet | 21:08 |
| histo | Drivers are already built in frimware is the issue | 21:10 |
| histo | lucas-arg: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/09/broadcom-announces-official-open-source-drivers-for-linux.ars | 21:12 |
| lucas-arg | thanks | 21:13 |
| lucas-arg | but still is it gonna be in 11.04? | 21:13 |
| lucas-arg | i read that article | 21:13 |
| histo | lucas-arg: you'd prolly have to ask the kernel dev team I don't | 21:14 |
| histo | lucas-arg: it's not mentioned here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | 21:14 |
| lucas-arg | thanks histo | 21:14 |
| lucas-arg | it would really rock | 21:15 |
| lucas-arg | and so if nvidia works oob too | 21:15 |
| histo | lucas-arg: well nvidia works oob just with the free drivers which aren't as good. | 21:15 |
| lucas-arg | i couldnt use unity when i tried 11.04 | 21:16 |
| yofel | nouveau has no opengl support by default which unity (compiz) needs | 21:18 |
| yofel | so you need to run classic, install the nvidia driver and then run unity | 21:18 |
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| bjsnider | libg1-mesa-dri-experimental gives nouveau opengl support | 21:22 |
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| Volkodav | I have a partial update that offers to remove compiz and install a bunch of libs - should i go for it or wait until more updates will be available to avoid any troubles | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | don't do it | 22:18 |
| Volkodav | I thoight so too | 22:18 |
| Amaranth | BUGabundo: compiz doesn't depend on ubuntu-desktop | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | don't tell me that | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | aptitude says other wise :) | 22:51 |
| Amaranth | aptitude is lying | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | upgrading one is uninstaling the other :( | 22:51 |
| ldunn | So, I just installed Natty, all seemed good, then I installed fglrx. Now it hangs when I log in. Wireless still connects, but apart from that nothing seems to be happening | 23:20 |
| coz_ | ldunn, opean a terminal and try gnome-wm --replace & disown | 23:21 |
| ldunn | well, ... hm, I wonder if Alt+F2 still works. | 23:22 |
| coz_ | I dont think so | 23:22 |
| ldunn | (Virtual terminals don't seem to work once I log in) | 23:22 |
| ldunn | Oh dear. :| | 23:22 |
| coz_ | ldunn, you can in stall gmrun in its place | 23:22 |
| ldunn | hm. | 23:22 |
| ldunn | Hm, well I just noticed I can start GNOME instead of Unity at the login screen, so that works for now I guess | 23:27 |
| coz_ | yes you can get classic gnome at login | 23:27 |
| coz_ | ldunn, the gnome-wm --replace didnt work? | 23:28 |
| ldunn | coz_: I didn't bother trying, but I doubt it would have worked once I tried to start Unity | 23:28 |
| ldunn | Well, if i could run it it probably would have. But I can't. | 23:28 |
| coz_ | ldunn, actually I have to use that command every time i enable twinview with nvidia while unity is running | 23:29 |
| coz_ | ldunn, it restarts a new instance of nux | 23:29 |
| ldunn | hrm. | 23:29 |
| coz_ | ldunn, although I dont think "instance" is the correct terminology for this | 23:32 |
| * ldunn shrugs | 23:33 | |
| coz_ | ldunn, i do know that it is nux being cranky | 23:33 |
| coz_ | ldunn, the only part of your issue I am unsure of is the "fglrx" I know too little about ati in general and even less about its working capabilities on natty /unity | 23:37 |
| ldunn | mmm. Meh, GNOME is fine for now | 23:38 |
| coz_ | ldunn, :) | 23:38 |
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