/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/13/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

markovchainDoes anyone know the default media player for cd's in Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix?01:35
kristian-aalborgmarkovchain: perhaps you can find the cd, then right click it and choose play?01:39
markovchainWhen I insert a CD into a external usb cd-rom, the cd-rom shows up in system/disc utility but there is no cd that pops up anywhere or any other button to press to start the cd.01:57
markovchainThere are however buttons to eject the CD as well as power down the disc drive, both of which work.01:58
kristian-aalborgis vlc there?02:00
markovchainI do not think so, unless it comes standard with this Ubuntu.02:04
aveilleuxmarkovchain: Should be Totem.02:05
geirhaIs it a VCD? or just a data disc with a movie file on it?02:05
markovchainIt is just an audio CD02:08
aveilleuxgeirha, markovchain: It's just a CD02:08
markovchainOK, I think the problem may be that I do not have a program that can run a CD. The only music software I seem to have is Rythem Box.02:11
aveilleuxmarkovchain: Install VLC or Totem02:13
nit-witmarkovchain, which ubuntu02:17
markovchain10.04 netbook remix02:18
holsteinmarkovchain: unless you set it up that way02:29
holsteinits not going to just auto play the CD02:29
holsteinyou put the CD in02:29
holsteinand open whatever software you want02:29
holsteinlike VLC02:29
holsteinand play the disc02:29
holsteinthe computer wont act like a CD player unless you want it to02:29
holsteinand configure it that way02:29
holsteinwhere you put a CD in and it plays02:30
holsteinyou should be able to find the mounted disc icon02:30
holsteinright-click on it and have it play in whatever02:30
* holstein installing natty in VM :)02:31
=== harrisonk is now known as harrisonk_away
kristian-aalborgwould anyone know how to add KolibriOS to grub2?, i.e 40_custom?04:06
holsteinupdate-grub doesnt find it?04:10
holsteinkristian-aalborg: ^^ ?04:10
kristian-aalborgnope04:10
kristian-aalborgholstein: one moment04:10
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/nYyx0Ndb04:11
kristian-aalborgthis is a work in progress, obviously04:12
kristian-aalborghttp://wiki.kolibrios.org/wiki/Booting_from_GRUB04:12
kristian-aalborghmm... it appears it *must* be a fat/ntfs partition :/04:12
holsteinhmmm04:14
kristian-aalborgah, it was in grub now... but it let to instant reboot04:17
kristian-aalborgit seems to be the "kernel" parameter that's unwanted04:18
holsteinkristian-aalborg:04:19
holsteinhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/damnsmalllinux-42/cd-with-mydsl-packages-not-mounting-on-380d-thinkpad-839879/04:19
holstein relavant?04:19
* kristian-aalborg takes a look04:19
kristian-aalborghmm.... it might be04:23
kristian-aalborgbut I'd better get to bed04:23
kristian-aalborg;)04:23
holsteinkristian-aalborg: good luck04:23
kristian-aalborgthanks - I'm sure it can be done04:24
=== karthick1987 is now known as karthick87
=== JoeMaver1ckSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett
Ramakrishna_csehello all I am Ramakrishna08:22
Ramakrishna_csecan somebody be my mentor so that i can contribute to ubuntu?08:23
udienzhello Ramakrishna_cse08:24
Ramakrishna_csehi08:25
Ramakrishna_csea few hours ago i mailed to beginners list08:25
Ramakrishna_csesome one wanted me to come here and chat08:25
udienzyup i see08:25
Cheri703is there a way to see what font was originally used in a document? I had some font packs previously installed, and apparently the font I'd used is no longer here, and I don't remember the name of it :(08:25
Cheri703it has been substituted by something else, and I'm not sure how to figure out the original08:26
Ramakrishna_cseudienz can we talk in private for some time?08:26
udienzyup you can08:27
UndiFineDCheri703, is it OOo ?08:31
Cheri703no, the program is glabels, and I KNOW I'd installed font packs, but don't remember which...08:31
Cheri703though...now that I think about it, I'd discussed it with someone in irc, so I might be able to find it in my logs08:32
UndiFineD:)08:32
Ramakrishna_csehello UndiFineD08:34
Ramakrishna_csethanks for the mail08:35
UndiFineDnp08:35
Ramakrishna_cseso how can i start ?08:35
Ramakrishna_csei mean contributing to ubuntu?08:35
UndiFineDwell first off all have you put your name on seeking mentor list ?08:36
Ramakrishna_csei am unable to do it..can u give me link plz08:36
UndiFineDhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership <- edit this page at the bottom08:37
Ramakrishna_csehow can i add my name there08:38
Ramakrishna_cseno button/link to add08:38
UndiFineDyes there is, at the top08:40
UndiFineDwhen you have a LaunchPad account you should be able to edit the wiki too08:40
UndiFineDonce logged in08:41
Ramakrishna_csei am really sorry, i am using google chrome...i see no button/link to add my name there08:42
Ramakrishna_csei do not have launchpad account now08:42
udienzRamakrishna_cse: please create, its important08:43
udienzand don't forget about CoC08:43
Ramakrishna_cseok08:43
Ramakrishna_csei read Code of conduct, it is very general and asking members to respect each other.......08:43
Ramakrishna_cseis there any thing else need to be taken care?08:44
UndiFineDall the information is on the Membership page or pages that it links to08:47
UndiFineDthe CoC is a treasure!08:47
UndiFineDget it signed :)08:48
kristian-aalborghi all10:09
kristian-aalborgwould anyone know how to make KolibriOS run on Lucid?10:09
duanedesignkristian-aalborg: hello10:28
kristian-aalborghi10:28
duanedesignkristian-aalborg: you might try the channel #kolibrios10:28
kristian-aalborgI got it working more or less :D10:28
duanedesignohh great10:28
kristian-aalborghttp://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1580&p=29811&hilit=ubuntu#p2981110:28
duanedesignaha10:28
kristian-aalborgI think it fares better on a FAT32 partition, though10:28
kristian-aalborgit's freaky... a desktop in 1,4 mb10:29
duanedesignheh, yeah. I have a tiny core installation. It is 10 mb10:31
kristian-aalborgthat's more than five times bigger10:40
kristian-aalborgtiny core linux is bloated :P10:40
Silver_Fox_Hello.10:54
suprengrSilver_Fox_: hello to you... sorryt for delay... I'm just doing a bit of 'remote support' while sis is installing UNE on her netbook....  wheee! another convert ;)11:01
Silver_Fox_Hello suprengr,  I had wondered where you  had got to :)11:02
suprengrSilver_Fox_: so had I!!!  We've been forced onto a 1 in 3 OOH cover till 10pm atm... [supposedly just short term] so have been only online Sundays recently... & for my sins I now have flu.11:08
Silver_Fox_suprengr,  I see.  I typically try to avoid computers at the weekend.  A break if you will.11:12
suprengrSilver_Fox_:  Just read that last bit through... it sounds very selfish, doen't it.  How are you? Keeping well & warm I hope.11:12
suprengrI can see good rational in your resoning... am I *that* sad that I don't? ;)11:14
Silver_Fox_suprengr,  I am doing okay thank you.   Things are looking better.11:15
suprengr[programming days are over so my weekend computer is more of a relax if being social / helpful.11:15
Silver_Fox_:)11:15
* suprengr rushes to loo to blow nose & shiver again11:18
Ramakrishnahello all13:31
Ramakrishnatoday i joined ubuntu team13:32
nlsthznRamakrishna: congrats13:38
Ramakrishnathanks13:40
Ramakrishnai am eager to start helping ubuntu from development point of view13:41
=== szczur_ is now known as szczur
rufra__hello I need help on booting my computer after an ubuntu install14:48
rufra__Install was sucessful, on the master boot drive. However after reboot it gives me a kernel panic- not synching VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0), then it also returns a 10 line call trace14:49
rufra__I am unable to get the machine running at all. Currently running off the live disk14:50
hajourrufra__,  sometimes it takes a little time for you get respons.because they are also busy with other things here on ubuntu.so dont think no one sal help ok ?:)14:54
Mohan_chmlrufra__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128062314:55
Mohan_chmlhave you looked at that link?14:55
Mohan_chmlbefore?14:55
rufra__cheers. I had not14:57
Mohan_chmlrufra__, have a look. I think that will help you. If it doesn't then please report back (:14:58
rufra__however my grub settings are strange..14:59
hajourok great you have help.14:59
rufra__recordfail   insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,msdos1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 57a8f70c-fdac-4449-9894-ca9937168f32 if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf215:00
Mohan_chmldon't look at the grub file of /boot/grub/grub.cfg when you are in the live CD. try finding the partition where your Ubuntu is installed and look at that grub15:00
rufra__yes im looking at the grub of the hdd15:00
rufra__i think that its thinking this is a partition install15:01
rufra__but i have only 1 partition15:01
rufra__its odd to say the least15:01
Mohan_chmlrufra__, try re-installing grub15:03
rufra__ok15:03
rufra__i will15:03
rufra__Mohan_chml: having probs reinstalling grub15:08
rufra__i followed the code in the thread you sent me15:08
Mohan_chmlrufra__, what happened?15:08
rufra__cant chroot15:08
Mohan_chmlrufra__, tried sudo too?15:09
phillwrufra__: you can either re-install grub, which is covered at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 or resinstall the kernel which is at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35- I'm not sure which one you are suffering from, but I think it is a grub issue.15:09
rufra__got it cheers guys15:10
rufra__phillw: having problems upgrading the grub... it says Cannot find list of partitions!15:15
phillwrufra__: are you following the part of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 that covers "When a good Grub2 becomes a poorly Grub2" ?15:17
rufra__phillw: i'm unable to ugrade to grub 2. Which section 11 requires. No?15:18
rufra__this is the dialog: root@ubuntu:/# sudo update-grub sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin Cannot find list of partitions! done15:19
Mohan_chmlrufra__, try using pastebin :)15:19
Mohan_chml!paste | rufra__15:19
ubot2rufra__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:19
rufra__ok15:20
rufra__http://paste.ubuntu.com/543088/15:21
rufra__I noticed I should probably mention I can't even boot into recovery mode... thus the inevitable running from the live disk15:22
rufra__Mohan_chml phillw: any ideas?15:28
Mohan_chmlrufra__, I have no clue. then I should prefer you to re-install the kernel as phillw said before15:29
Mohan_chmlI ll brb. dinner15:29
rufra__ok15:29
rufra__brb changing comp15:30
Robinuxcan i install gns3 0.7.3 on ubuntu 10.10?15:34
Mohan_chmlRobinux, yep. http://sushantwagle.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/gns3-0-7-1-2-on-ubuntu-10-04-lts-the-easy-way/15:44
rufra__Mohan_chml: back.. still trying to update kernel. Not much luck.15:47
Mohan_chmlrufra__, followed http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35-?15:48
RobinuxMohan_chml, thanks man15:48
Mohan_chmlRobinux, (:15:48
rufra__Mohan_chml: I'm currently rebooting into the live cd to try again in case I made a mistake15:49
Mohan_chmlokies15:49
rufra__Mohan_chml: Ok, tried reinstalling grub. No joy.. going to reboot to try and update the kernel15:57
Mohan_chmlokay15:57
rufra__Mohan_chml: Got far into the kernel update as it said on the forum phillw provided. when trying to install i get the following: paste.ubuntu.com/54310816:11
ibuclawafternoon16:14
Silver_Fox_Morning16:14
ibuclawSilver_Fox_, you could almost be confused for it being. =)16:15
Silver_Fox_=)16:15
ibuclawhehehe16:19
* ibuclaw has been fixing some inline bugs16:19
ibuclawTake this C++ code: http://pastebin.com/d67EffyP16:19
ibuclawCompared with this identical D program: http://pastebin.com/Q6Nqwquc16:20
ibuclawwhich one do you think is quicker? >:)16:20
rufra__Anyone care to suggest a fix for my problem? Unable to boot into 10.10 Getting kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Pid:1, comm:swapper Not tainted 2.6.35-22-generic16:27
rufra__Then I get a call trace with 10 items16:27
total_n00bI installed Ubuntu 10.04 with default setting and have ext4, swap and extended partitions. Is extended installing by default or it shouldn't be there?16:28
rufra__i have tried reinstalling the grub to no success and kernel updating following http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35-? was unsuccesful16:28
rufra__I just installed ubuntu today, on a brand new comp. on the master boot, no extra partitions16:29
ibuclawwow, a guide I co-wrote...16:32
ibuclawrufra__, I doubt kernel panics are because grub reports no operating system =)16:33
rufra__i thought so.. However no one has been able to help me out..16:34
ibuclawinfact, grub has already found operating system and booted it. Linux inits, loads itself into memory then starts booting. =)16:34
rufra__ibuclaw: any suggestions of how to get around it?16:35
rufra__ibuclaw: i have reinstalled from live cd about 5 times today. I have been trying to sort this out for about 7 hrs16:35
rufra__ibuclaw: this is the error dialog I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/543122/16:41
UndiFineDhello17:49
nlsthznhey17:50
bodhizazenpaultag: poke18:16
Silver_Fox_Goodbye.18:47
Puck`is anyone around to give me a hand with VPN setup? (:19:31
UndiFineDhey Puck`19:31
bioterrorI set up vpn to my mobile phone couple days ago :-)19:31
Puck`hi UndiFineD (:19:32
Puck`bioterror: on ubuntu? (:19:32
bioterrorPuck`, windows mobile ;)19:32
Puck`I'm using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html19:32
Puck`bioterror: but I mean the server is on ubuntu? (:19:32
bioterrorPuck`, nope. corporate stuff19:32
Puck`oh I see19:33
fatharrahman__UndiFineD: hi19:37
UndiFineDhey fatharrahman__19:39
fatharrahman__if I got a credit card is more save to deal with emails related to it at browser level or at programs such as Evolution19:39
fatharrahman__?*19:39
fatharrahman__UndiFineD: is emails more save at Evoluton and shch applications han at browsers?19:42
UndiFineDfatharrahman__, email can be intercepted, if the mail at some point is not either encrypted or transferred via ssl, it is unsafe19:42
fatharrahman__than*19:42
UndiFineDat browser level, all communications must do ssl as well19:42
UndiFineDso https19:42
UndiFineDbrowser would be safer to do this as it is 1 to 1 communications19:43
UndiFineDemail servers pass on to eachother19:43
fatharrahman__aha19:44
fatharrahman__clear19:44
UndiFineDor use an online payment system without creditcard19:45
fatharrahman__UndiFineD: please take my wormiest greetings to your family :)----ok  that's clear Thanks am trying for the firs time to connect my laptop to our desktop hehe  I'll try19:48
UndiFineDok great, what connection type are you going to use19:50
UndiFineD:)19:51
fatharrahman__not sure19:51
fatharrahman__what? do u have an idea?19:52
fatharrahman__for a newbie19:52
fatharrahman__ssh19:53
fatharrahman__i'll open a book and set an ssh19:53
UndiFineD<UndiFineD> fatharrahman__, ssh is a good commandline way20:37
UndiFineD<UndiFineD> you can also use nfs (for linux and other unix) or samba for file transfers20:37
UndiFineDthere are plenty of ways to communicate between 2 systems20:37
fatharrahman__what is the application for browsing other linux computer dektop ?20:39
holsteinfatharrahman__: are you running gnome?20:39
fatharrahman__yes in my laptop gnome and in my desktop lxde I want to browse lxde20:40
holsteinafter setting up ssh20:40
UndiFineDfatharrahman__,  vnc works quite well, there are other similar protocols too20:40
holsteinyou go to places - connect to server20:41
holsteinIF your wanting to browse the files on your dekstop20:41
holsteinIF your wanting to control the desktop remotely20:41
holsteinthen you should check out VNC20:41
fatharrahman__I want to do both holstein20:42
holsteintheres also 3rd party tools like http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx20:43
holsteinfor doing it over the internet20:43
holsteinwithout needing to configure your router20:43
fatharrahman__is this secure20:44
holsteini use ssh20:44
holsteinfatharrahman__: teamviewer?20:44
holsteinyou dont have to leave it running20:44
holsteinBUT20:44
fatharrahman__I am learnin only20:44
holsteintry the local tools first20:44
fatharrahman__at my own room20:44
holsteinvino and vinagre20:44
holsteinfatharrahman__: open a terminal20:45
holsteintype20:45
fatharrahman__ok20:45
holsteinvino-preferences20:45
holsteinthats the server20:45
holsteinyou need to have that running and configured to be able to connect20:45
fatharrahman__done20:45
holsteinvino should tell you the ip address or host name20:46
holsteinnow20:46
holsteinin theory20:46
holsteinyou should be able to go to another box20:46
fatharrahman__Command 'vino-preferences' from package 'vino' (main)20:46
fatharrahman__vino-preference: command not found20:46
holsteinon your network20:46
holsteinfatharrahman__: OH20:46
holsteinwhat are you running?20:46
holstein10.10?20:46
holsteinthere was a change20:46
fatharrahman__10.1020:46
holsteinand i havnet tried the new one20:46
holsteinlet me look that up...20:46
fatharrahman__aha20:46
holsteinOH20:47
holsteinvino-preferences20:47
holsteinIF20:47
holsteinyou just type20:47
holsteinvino-pr20:47
holsteinand hit tab20:47
fatharrahman__the   s20:47
holsteinit will auto complete20:47
holsteinif the command is available20:48
fatharrahman__nice20:48
holstein:)20:48
holsteinSO20:48
holsteinyou get that set up20:48
holsteinon the server side20:48
holsteinthen20:48
holsteingo to another box on your LAN20:48
fatharrahman__ amenu opedned20:48
holsteinand run vino20:48
holsteinOR20:48
holstein'remote desktop view' in the menu = vino20:49
holsteinviewer*20:49
fatharrahman__in my lubuntu 10.04? run vino too?20:49
holsteinfatharrahman__: you might not have it there20:49
holsteinWHEN20:49
holsteinim running variants like that20:49
holsteini install xtightvncviewer20:49
holsteinin the terminal in lubuntu20:49
holsteinrun20:49
holsteinsudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer20:50
holsteinthen20:50
holsteinrun20:50
fatharrahman__I opned thhe desktop20:50
holsteinxtightnvcviewer 192.168.x.xxx20:50
holsteinthe IP of the box your trying to reach ^^20:50
holsteinhttp://remmina.sourceforge.net/20:51
holstein^^ that is what ubuntu is going to20:51
holsteinfor remote desktop20:51
fatharrahman__it is open in desktop also after vino20:51
holsteinfatharrahman__: OH, so your connected?20:51
holsteinvino might be in lubuntu20:51
fatharrahman__wait a second you are too quick20:52
holsteini havnet checked20:52
holsteinfatharrahman__: yeah, sorry, im just firing a bunch of info out :)20:52
fatharrahman__am not connected20:52
fatharrahman__wo20:52
holsteinfatharrahman__: is your server running?20:52
fatharrahman__wowowow20:52
fatharrahman__I am not sure20:52
fatharrahman__I open20:52
fatharrahman__tow menus20:52
fatharrahman__in each one folowing vino20:53
holsteinfatharrahman__: in theory20:53
holsteinwhen you run vino20:53
fatharrahman__yeh20:53
holsteinthe servers will just auto-magially show up there20:53
fatharrahman__aha20:54
holsteinfatharrahman__: you in?20:54
fatharrahman__Your desktop is only reachable over the local network. Others can access your computer using the address 192.168.1.3 or fatharrahman-HP-Mini-110-1100.local.20:55
fatharrahman__this I found20:55
holsteinright20:55
fatharrahman__what then20:55
holstein192.168.1.3 is the server20:55
holsteinSO20:55
fatharrahman__ok20:55
holsteinon the other box20:55
fatharrahman__I typed20:56
holsteinyou need to connect to that machine20:56
holsteinwith something20:56
fatharrahman__no20:56
holsteinwhatever you feel comfortable with20:56
fatharrahman__I pressed alwow others to control your desktop20:56
holsteinyeah20:56
holsteinwhich is fine20:56
holsteinyou can put a password in20:56
holsteinif you want20:56
holsteinBUT20:56
holsteinyour behind a firewall20:56
fatharrahman__not sure20:57
holsteinyou have a router prolly20:58
holsteinto have more that one computer connected20:58
holsteinand that has a firewall20:58
fatharrahman__should I type a password20:58
holsteinfatharrahman__: i do20:58
holsteinbut i wouldnt worry about it right now20:58
holsteinfor a quick test20:58
holsteinim just making sure your aware of the security concerns20:58
holsteinwhich are minimal for your situation20:59
holsteinfatharrahman__: go ahead and go over to the other machine now20:59
froxhi, does anyone have experience with overclocking while running ubuntu?  I'm having a problem with cpu frequency scaling overriding the bios settings.20:59
fatharrahman__                                     I have HUAWEI home gate way20:59
holsteinim not sure how your hardware works fatharrahman__21:00
holsteinbut i have a router21:00
holsteinas my gateway21:00
holsteinand it has a firewall21:00
holsteinand i forward ports to my server machine21:00
holsteinas needed21:00
fatharrahman__am not sure about security21:00
holsteinSO if i have a laptop here21:01
holsteinand i run a VNC server on it21:01
fatharrahman__never heard21:01
holsteinno port is forwarded to it21:01
holsteinSO you can 'hack' me21:01
holsteinin theory21:01
holsteinSTILL no harm in setting a passwork21:01
holsteinpassword*21:01
holsteinIF i wanted you to be able to connect to my machine21:02
holsteinthats how i would do it21:02
fatharrahman__how to make that21:02
holsteinforward a port in my router21:02
holsteinset a password21:02
fatharrahman__password to the tow connected desktop?21:02
fatharrahman__ok21:02
holsteinand give you my IP and password21:02
fatharrahman__nice21:02
holstein:)21:02
holsteinBUT teamviewer is a much easier way to get that same thing going on21:02
fatharrahman__:)21:02
holsteinwithout configuring a router21:02
fatharrahman__yeh21:03
holsteinsay, if your grandma was running ubuntu21:03
holsteinand you wanted to help her21:03
holsteinand not talk about a router configuration with her ;)21:03
holsteinANYWAYS21:03
fatharrahman__am I your grandma :)21:03
holsteingo to the other box21:03
fatharrahman__ok21:03
holsteinthe one you want to connect from21:03
fatharrahman__ok21:04
holsteinsee if you have vino21:04
fatharrahman__I did21:04
holsteinis it there?21:04
holsteinOH21:04
fatharrahman__yes21:04
holsteinfatharrahman__: sorry...21:04
fatharrahman__why21:05
holsteinvinagre21:05
holsteinthats the viewer21:05
holsteinsee if you have vinagre on the lubuntu box21:05
fatharrahman__Remot desk top Preference21:05
fatharrahman__same in both21:05
holsteinOK21:06
holsteinon the lubuntu box21:06
holsteinyou dont need the server running21:06
holsteinyou can have it running21:06
holsteinBUT you dont need it21:06
holsteinyou just launch21:06
holsteinvinagre21:06
holsteinand you should see the remote connection availalbe to you21:06
fatharrahman__I typed vino and it is opened21:07
holsteinfatharrahman__: yeah, close vino21:07
holsteinthat was my bad21:07
holsteinclose21:07
holsteinvino21:07
holsteinand run vinagre21:07
fatharrahman__in laptop or desktop ?21:07
holsteinlaptop is the lubuntu?21:07
holsteinright?21:07
holsteinyour wanting to connect to the desktop?21:08
fatharrahman__laptop is ubuntu desktop lubuntu I want control desktop21:08
holsteinOK21:08
holsteinso on the desktop21:08
holsteinyou ran vino-preferences21:08
fatharrahman__yah21:08
holsteinand turned the server on21:08
holsteinont he laptop21:09
holsteinrun21:09
holsteinvinagre21:09
holsteinand you'll see the connection there21:09
holsteinIF vinagre is installed there, if not, we'll install a viewer21:09
fatharrahman__yes a viewer21:11
fatharrahman__appeared21:11
holstein:)21:11
holsteinthats about it21:11
holsteinassuming the connection shows up automatically21:11
holsteinand it should21:11
holsteinfatharrahman__: you dont have to access these settings from the command line21:12
holsteinthey are in different places in LXDE and gnome AFAIK21:12
holsteinvinagre should be called 'remote desktop viewer'21:13
fatharrahman__I pressed connect and a menu asked for host21:13
holsteinand vino is somewhere in system settings21:13
holsteinfatharrahman__: OK so you can use the IP21:13
holsteinof the host21:13
holstein192.168.2.3 ??21:13
holsteini think it was21:13
holsteinwhatever vino told you it was21:13
fatharrahman__1 in place of 221:14
fatharrahman__ok you mean it is the laptop adress?21:14
holsteinwhere ever your trying to connect21:14
holsteinfatharrahman__: your not going to break anything trying the wrong IP address21:16
fatharrahman__ok21:16
fatharrahman__is the vnc gonna be secure if I made a passwrd in my laptop remote preferences21:17
holsteinfatharrahman__: this is all on your LAN21:17
holsteinbehind your firewall21:18
fatharrahman__but not in desktop ones21:18
holsteinSO all should be secure back there21:18
holsteinwhatever you do21:18
holsteinbetween the computers21:18
holsteinIF you trust your network21:18
holsteinif you dont have a lot of wifi connected folk you dont know about21:18
fatharrahman__?21:19
holsteinlets say you router has wifi21:19
holsteinand its open21:19
holsteinunencrypted21:19
holsteinand i drive up to your house21:19
holsteinand connect to your box21:19
holsteinand guess your password21:19
holsteinthats worst case scenario i think21:20
holsteinif you have a normally safe network you trust21:20
holsteinthen you got no worries21:20
fatharrahman__the gate way got a mac password from the company21:21
fatharrahman__no one know it to get wifi21:21
holsteinyeah21:21
holsteini wouldnt sweat it then21:21
gfarmerHello.  I have two internal hard drives, and sometimes 1 external, but I want both of my internals to mount upon startup.21:21
holsteinme connecting and hacking you right now would be VERY unlikely21:22
holsteinthrough your firewall21:22
gfarmerthe problem is that the device name changes for fstab depending on if my external is plugged in or not.  Any tips?21:22
holsteingfarmer: does the UUID change?21:22
fatharrahman__holstein an error message told me connection closed ?21:22
holsteinfatharrahman__: double check the password21:23
gfarmerhow do I check the UUID?21:23
holsteinand maybe log out of the server machine and back in fatharrahman__21:23
holsteindouble check pass and IP21:23
holsteingfarmer: i used gparted somehow21:23
holsteini only had to do it one time21:23
holsteinBUT i used UUID instead of path21:24
holsteindidnt have any issues21:24
gfarmermy one internal goes from /dev/sda1 to something else when I boot with my external21:24
holsteinyeah, my EEE does that sometimes21:24
holsteincan be a drag21:24
holsteinuuid should be constant though21:24
gfarmerhow do I find the UUID?21:25
holsteini used gparted21:25
holsteinfrom the running installation21:25
holsteinlet me look...21:25
holsteingfarmer: yeah21:27
holsteini find it in gparted21:27
holsteinlet me get a screenshot....21:27
gfarmerwhere in gparted?21:27
gfarmerdo you have to select a menu option?21:27
gfarmeroh, nm21:28
gfarmerunder partition, Information gives it when i click the drive21:28
gfarmerok, so how do I used that in fstab exactly?21:29
holsteinhttp://holstein.shacknet.nu/screenshots/Screenshot.png21:30
holstein...too late...21:30
holsteingfarmer: let me see if i can find that21:30
gfarmerhaha, thanks21:30
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab21:31
holsteindown the page a bit21:31
holsteinin examples21:31
holsteinUUID=be35a709-c787-4198-a903-d5fdc80ab2f8  /  ext3  relatime,errors=remount-ro  0  121:31
gfarmergot it21:31
gfarmersweet21:31
gfarmerthanks21:31
holstein:)21:31
gfarmeris there an easier way to do the automatic mounting?  I like how cleanly it creates a folder in /media, mounts the drive, and all that jazz when you click on a mountable drive in "Places"21:32
gfarmerbut I can't find how to do that; just how to mount it to a permanent directory21:33
holsteinnot sure21:33
holsteinive only used a dir21:33
holsteini know what you mean though...21:33
gfarmeryeah; I just wish I could figure out what all is going on when you do that nice little button click21:34
holsteinhehe21:34
gfarmerthis should work fine though; thanks for the tip21:34
holsteinmagic ;)21:34
holsteingfarmer: anytime21:34
oldtropadorI am very very new to ubuntu, but I am an old dos used I need help Instaling app's in the app pool? non Dep pacakages?21:34
holsteinhey oldtropador21:34
holsteinwhat are you running?21:34
holstein10.10?21:34
oldtropadoryes21:35
holsteinwhat are you trying to install?21:35
oldtropadorboinc21:36
oldtropadorand new drivers for my gtx46021:37
holsteinim not sure about the drivers21:38
holsteinare you using the proprietary nividia drivers?21:38
holsteinnvidia*21:38
holsteini have one nvidia card running here on a 64bit box21:38
holsteinand the open source drivers are fine for my needs21:38
holsteinanyways...21:38
holsteinboinc21:38
holsteinwell21:39
holsteinsoftware in general21:39
holsteinyou can always build whatever you want21:39
oldtropadoralso ati diver the new catylist21:39
holsteinthe process is usually different depending on the softwarre21:39
holsteinand its dependancies21:39
holsteinBUT21:39
holsteini always tell new folk to go in this order21:40
holsteinfirst21:40
holsteintry the ubuntu repos21:40
holsteinthe extra ones too21:40
holsteinand i looks like boinc is in the repos21:41
holsteinboinc - metapackage for the BOINC client and the manager21:41
yofeloldtropador: are you using nvidia or ati? gtx460 sounds like nvidia21:41
holsteinoldtropador: have you tried that version?21:41
oldtropadoryou are talking over my head21:41
holsteinoldtropador: sorry21:42
holsteinhave you installed any software yet?21:42
holsteinused any package manager?21:42
holsteini'll take a step back...21:42
oldtropadorI am building a new rig and want to run under ubunta21:42
holsteinyou can run 'software center'21:43
oldtropadorI also have may current rig with dual boot21:43
yofeloldtropador: to install software, go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center21:43
holsteinand search for boinc21:43
oldtropadorit dose not see my gtx46021:43
oldtropadorthe version inthe software centrer is an older version21:44
yofeloldtropador: what do you mean with 'it does not see my gtx460'? and what version does it show21:44
* holstein ...biab...21:45
holsteinyofel: o/21:45
yofelholstein: o/21:45
oldtropadorI need the new version so bboinc can use the gtx46021:45
oldtropadorand i need the newer drivers21:46
yofeloldtropador: I checked the boinc website, maverick (10.10) has the newest boinc version, but you need to have the proprietary nvidia driver installed for CUDA21:46
yofelmaverick has 260.19.06, is that not new enough?21:46
yofel(current is 260.19.21)21:47
yofeler, 260.19.26 actually, but does it now work with 260.19.06?21:48
oldtropadorwhat is or where is maverick21:48
yofeloldtropador: that's the name of the ubuntu release, Maverick Meerkat 10.1021:48
oldtropadoryes to your question on the driver21:48
yofeloldtropador: which release are you using?21:48
oldtropadori CAN ANSWER i'MM IN WINDOWAT THE MOMENT21:49
aveilleuxCruise control21:50
oldtropadorI just down loaded it and installe d with a thumb drive21:50
yofelok, well, if you need the newest driver, it's available here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/21:50
oldtropadorthanks21:52
yofeloldtropador: come back if you need help in adding the PPA21:53
oldtropadorI'm in a chalenge session at the moment at prime grid an can't sut dowon21:55
oldtropadorbut I know where you guy's are now . Thanks for the help!!21:56
kristian-aalborgcan I unmount my home partition, then split it?22:07
deejoenon-destructively?22:10
deejoekristian-aalborg: how full is it?22:10
kristian-aalborgdeejoe: hi22:11
kristian-aalborgyes, I'd prefer not to mess anything up22:11
kristian-aalborgit's very, erm, unfull?22:11
deejoekristian-aalborg: under some circumstances, it's possible, but it's not something I'd consider beginner-level22:11
kristian-aalborg300 megs used out of a 2 gigs or so22:11
kristian-aalborgdeejoe: I only hang out here to feel young ;)22:12
deejoehaha, ok22:12
kristian-aalborgI'd do it from a livecd, but I can't run that many (cd's)22:12
kristian-aalborgI got dsl running right now, though22:12
deejoeif you've got /home on an LVM volume, and it's got an ext2 or ext3 filesystem, you can use resize2fs to shrink the filesystem, then lvmumble to resize the LVM22:12
kristian-aalborgit's lucid22:13
deejoelvresize22:13
deejoeI honestly don't know what a default lucid install uses22:13
deejoewhat lucid I have has been upgraded from previous versions.22:14
gfarmerkristian-aalborg: you could also try using gparted, right?22:14
deejoeissuing 'less /etc/fstab' should show you what filesystem /home uses (if indeed it is a separate partition)22:15
deejoeand if you get something intelligible out of issuing 'sudo lvdisplay' then you're probably in good shape there22:15
kristian-aalborggfarmer: unfortunately not22:15
deejoekristian-aalborg: of coures, all of these carries extreme hazard for your data, so you'll want to have an archive and a backup of it, or be prepared to lose it if something goes amiss.22:16
kristian-aalborghmmmm22:17
kristian-aalborgI might be getting a new drive to boot from soon, perhaps I'd better wait22:19
dAMMERUNGI'm looking for an FS that can be read-write by Windows 7, OSX, and Linux and also can handle files 8GB. any recommendations?22:25
kristian-aalborgntfs?22:26
kristian-aalborgdeejoe: would it be less risky and more easy to do make just a 5 mb (or so) fat32 partition?22:27
dAMMERUNGOSX can't rw NTFS22:27
kristian-aalborgsorry, I thought so22:29
kristian-aalborgfat32 then?22:29
dAMMERUNGfat32 can't handle files 8GB22:30
gfarmerexit22:30
dAMMERUNGi know it's silly. the anti-competitiveness of MS and Apple really ticks me off22:31
aveilleuxdAMMERUNG: That's less of an anticompetitive practice and more of a reasonable limitation on the technology of that time22:32
aveilleuxdAMMERUNG: FAT32 has been around for decades, and when it was designed nobody thought people would need files larger than 8GB22:33
yofelwell, another PC with a drive shared over samba would probably pull that off, but I think ntfs is probably the best option on your local system22:33
dAMMERUNG yeah but it'd be so easy for them to add rw for ext4 and xfs and the like, they just don't22:33
dAMMERUNGit's actually for an external usb drive that I want to be able to access from any of my machines yofel22:34
aveilleuxdAMMERUNG: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/22:34
yofeldAMMERUNG: can't OSX write to ext2?22:34
dAMMERUNGthanks aveilleux, though that's still no write22:35
* yofel isn't sure how large files ext2 can handle though22:35
aveilleuxdAMMERUNG: ext2 would be the fs you want... there's an ext2 driver for Windows, and OSX can natively handle ext222:35
dAMMERUNGlooks like you're right aveilleux it can also handle up to 16GB22:36
aveilleuxdAMMERUNG: http://www.fs-driver.org/22:36
dAMMERUNGgreat thanks looks like it will work22:38
dAMMERUNGi'll probably test it on a spare drive first22:39
BizurkeI'm wondering about using swap on a 10.04 VPS running one wordpress site. I'm not a fan of swap, but I see my memory get maxed out really fast and I would like to have some room for error. Would tuning swapiness for a webserver be advised?23:38
holsteinhow does it run with swap turned off?23:39
Bizurke just fine until I get over 10 clients connected23:39
BizurkeI noticed that it never hits swap at all, so i was thinking I should make it do so23:39
holsteinyou on a solid state disc?23:39
holsteinhard drive*23:40
Bizurkeit's a VPS, I just have access through a CP to allocate swap, then I can tune swapiness.  I'm sure it's on a RAID array23:40
Bizurkelike, a hosted vps23:40
holsteinOH23:40
holsteinyeah, so its not even your hardware :)23:40
Bizurkeexactly23:40
BizurkeI've never had this problem with debian servers of the same specs23:41
BizurkeI can run 50 apache sessions with only like half of my ram being used. But on Ubuntu 10 session will halt my server23:41
holsteinBizurke: 10.04?23:41
holsteinhmmm23:41
Bizurkeyeah23:41
holsteinyeah, i see up there23:41
holsteininteresing23:41
holsteinis it up to date?23:41
Bizurkeindeed23:41
BizurkeI'm thinking I might have to ditch apache for lighthttpd23:42
Bizurkesurprisingly apache is using more memory than mysql23:42
holsteinive never needed to do anything other than a stock setup23:43
holsteinauto partitioning23:43
holsteini know ubuntu-server is slow...23:44
holstein#ubuntu-server*23:44
holsteinthe support channel23:44
holsteinif you can hang out there though23:44
Bizurkeah, didn't even realize that excsted23:44
Bizurkeexisted*23:44
holsteinim sure someone there would be more savvy23:44
Bizurkeprobably23:44
holsteinBizurke: i pinged a guy in my LUG23:44
holsteinthat is running buntu on a VPS23:45
Bizurkesweet23:45
holsteinno word though23:45
holsteinyet23:45
holsteinif i get him, i'll try and get you guys talking :)23:45
Bizurkeawesome23:45
BizurkeI think I might just buy more ram and be lazy23:46

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!