[01:35] <markovchain> Does anyone know the default media player for cd's in Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix?
[01:39] <kristian-aalborg> markovchain: perhaps you can find the cd, then right click it and choose play?
[01:57] <markovchain> When I insert a CD into a external usb cd-rom, the cd-rom shows up in system/disc utility but there is no cd that pops up anywhere or any other button to press to start the cd.
[01:58] <markovchain> There are however buttons to eject the CD as well as power down the disc drive, both of which work.
[02:00] <kristian-aalborg> is vlc there?
[02:04] <markovchain> I do not think so, unless it comes standard with this Ubuntu.
[02:05] <aveilleux> markovchain: Should be Totem.
[02:05] <geirha> Is it a VCD? or just a data disc with a movie file on it?
[02:08] <markovchain> It is just an audio CD
[02:08] <aveilleux> geirha, markovchain: It's just a CD
[02:11] <markovchain> OK, I think the problem may be that I do not have a program that can run a CD. The only music software I seem to have is Rythem Box.
[02:13] <aveilleux> markovchain: Install VLC or Totem
[02:17] <nit-wit> markovchain, which ubuntu
[02:18] <markovchain> 10.04 netbook remix
[02:29] <holstein> markovchain: unless you set it up that way
[02:29] <holstein> its not going to just auto play the CD
[02:29] <holstein> you put the CD in
[02:29] <holstein> and open whatever software you want
[02:29] <holstein> like VLC
[02:29] <holstein> and play the disc
[02:29] <holstein> the computer wont act like a CD player unless you want it to
[02:29] <holstein> and configure it that way
[02:30] <holstein> where you put a CD in and it plays
[02:30] <holstein> you should be able to find the mounted disc icon
[02:30] <holstein> right-click on it and have it play in whatever
[02:31]  * holstein installing natty in VM :)
[04:06] <kristian-aalborg> would anyone know how to add KolibriOS to grub2?, i.e 40_custom?
[04:10] <holstein> update-grub doesnt find it?
[04:10] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: ^^ ?
[04:10] <kristian-aalborg> nope
[04:10] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: one moment
[04:11] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/nYyx0Ndb
[04:12] <kristian-aalborg> this is a work in progress, obviously
[04:12] <kristian-aalborg> http://wiki.kolibrios.org/wiki/Booting_from_GRUB
[04:12] <kristian-aalborg> hmm... it appears it *must* be a fat/ntfs partition :/
[04:14] <holstein> hmmm
[04:17] <kristian-aalborg> ah, it was in grub now... but it let to instant reboot
[04:18] <kristian-aalborg> it seems to be the "kernel" parameter that's unwanted
[04:19] <holstein> kristian-aalborg:
[04:19] <holstein> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/damnsmalllinux-42/cd-with-mydsl-packages-not-mounting-on-380d-thinkpad-839879/
[04:19] <holstein>  relavant?
[04:19]  * kristian-aalborg takes a look
[04:23] <kristian-aalborg> hmm.... it might be
[04:23] <kristian-aalborg> but I'd better get to bed
[04:23] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[04:23] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: good luck
[04:24] <kristian-aalborg> thanks - I'm sure it can be done
[08:22] <Ramakrishna_cse> hello all I am Ramakrishna
[08:23] <Ramakrishna_cse> can somebody be my mentor so that i can contribute to ubuntu?
[08:24] <udienz> hello Ramakrishna_cse
[08:25] <Ramakrishna_cse> hi
[08:25] <Ramakrishna_cse> a few hours ago i mailed to beginners list
[08:25] <Ramakrishna_cse> some one wanted me to come here and chat
[08:25] <udienz> yup i see
[08:25] <Cheri703> is there a way to see what font was originally used in a document? I had some font packs previously installed, and apparently the font I'd used is no longer here, and I don't remember the name of it :(
[08:26] <Cheri703> it has been substituted by something else, and I'm not sure how to figure out the original
[08:26] <Ramakrishna_cse> udienz can we talk in private for some time?
[08:27] <udienz> yup you can
[08:31] <UndiFineD> Cheri703, is it OOo ?
[08:31] <Cheri703> no, the program is glabels, and I KNOW I'd installed font packs, but don't remember which...
[08:32] <Cheri703> though...now that I think about it, I'd discussed it with someone in irc, so I might be able to find it in my logs
[08:32] <UndiFineD> :)
[08:34] <Ramakrishna_cse> hello UndiFineD
[08:35] <Ramakrishna_cse> thanks for the mail
[08:35] <UndiFineD> np
[08:35] <Ramakrishna_cse> so how can i start ?
[08:35] <Ramakrishna_cse> i mean contributing to ubuntu?
[08:36] <UndiFineD> well first off all have you put your name on seeking mentor list ?
[08:36] <Ramakrishna_cse> i am unable to do it..can u give me link plz
[08:37] <UndiFineD> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership <- edit this page at the bottom
[08:38] <Ramakrishna_cse> how can i add my name there
[08:38] <Ramakrishna_cse> no button/link to add
[08:40] <UndiFineD> yes there is, at the top
[08:40] <UndiFineD> when you have a LaunchPad account you should be able to edit the wiki too
[08:41] <UndiFineD> once logged in
[08:42] <Ramakrishna_cse> i am really sorry, i am using google chrome...i see no button/link to add my name there
[08:42] <Ramakrishna_cse> i do not have launchpad account now
[08:43] <udienz> Ramakrishna_cse: please create, its important
[08:43] <udienz> and don't forget about CoC
[08:43] <Ramakrishna_cse> ok
[08:43] <Ramakrishna_cse> i read Code of conduct, it is very general and asking members to respect each other.......
[08:44] <Ramakrishna_cse> is there any thing else need to be taken care?
[08:47] <UndiFineD> all the information is on the Membership page or pages that it links to
[08:47] <UndiFineD> the CoC is a treasure!
[08:48] <UndiFineD> get it signed :)
[10:09] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[10:09] <kristian-aalborg> would anyone know how to make KolibriOS run on Lucid?
[10:28] <duanedesign> kristian-aalborg: hello
[10:28] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[10:28] <duanedesign> kristian-aalborg: you might try the channel #kolibrios
[10:28] <kristian-aalborg> I got it working more or less :D
[10:28] <duanedesign> ohh great
[10:28] <kristian-aalborg> http://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1580&p=29811&hilit=ubuntu#p29811
[10:28] <duanedesign> aha
[10:28] <kristian-aalborg> I think it fares better on a FAT32 partition, though
[10:29] <kristian-aalborg> it's freaky... a desktop in 1,4 mb
[10:31] <duanedesign> heh, yeah. I have a tiny core installation. It is 10 mb
[10:40] <kristian-aalborg> that's more than five times bigger
[10:40] <kristian-aalborg> tiny core linux is bloated :P
[10:54] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[11:01] <suprengr> Silver_Fox_: hello to you... sorryt for delay... I'm just doing a bit of 'remote support' while sis is installing UNE on her netbook....  wheee! another convert ;)
[11:02] <Silver_Fox_> Hello suprengr,  I had wondered where you  had got to :)
[11:08] <suprengr> Silver_Fox_: so had I!!!  We've been forced onto a 1 in 3 OOH cover till 10pm atm... [supposedly just short term] so have been only online Sundays recently... & for my sins I now have flu.
[11:12] <Silver_Fox_> suprengr,  I see.  I typically try to avoid computers at the weekend.  A break if you will.
[11:12] <suprengr> Silver_Fox_:  Just read that last bit through... it sounds very selfish, doen't it.  How are you? Keeping well & warm I hope.
[11:14] <suprengr> I can see good rational in your resoning... am I *that* sad that I don't? ;)
[11:15] <Silver_Fox_> suprengr,  I am doing okay thank you.   Things are looking better.
[11:15] <suprengr> [programming days are over so my weekend computer is more of a relax if being social / helpful.
[11:15] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[11:18]  * suprengr rushes to loo to blow nose & shiver again
[13:31] <Ramakrishna> hello all
[13:32] <Ramakrishna> today i joined ubuntu team
[13:38] <nlsthzn> Ramakrishna: congrats
[13:40] <Ramakrishna> thanks
[13:41] <Ramakrishna> i am eager to start helping ubuntu from development point of view
[14:48] <rufra__> hello I need help on booting my computer after an ubuntu install
[14:49] <rufra__> Install was sucessful, on the master boot drive. However after reboot it gives me a kernel panic- not synching VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0), then it also returns a 10 line call trace
[14:50] <rufra__> I am unable to get the machine running at all. Currently running off the live disk
[14:54] <hajour> rufra__,  sometimes it takes a little time for you get respons.because they are also busy with other things here on ubuntu.so dont think no one sal help ok ?:)
[14:55] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1280623
[14:55] <Mohan_chml> have you looked at that link?
[14:55] <Mohan_chml> before?
[14:57] <rufra__> cheers. I had not
[14:58] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, have a look. I think that will help you. If it doesn't then please report back (:
[14:59] <rufra__> however my grub settings are strange..
[14:59] <hajour> ok great you have help.
[15:00] <rufra__> recordfail   insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,msdos1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 57a8f70c-fdac-4449-9894-ca9937168f32 if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> don't look at the grub file of /boot/grub/grub.cfg when you are in the live CD. try finding the partition where your Ubuntu is installed and look at that grub
[15:00] <rufra__> yes im looking at the grub of the hdd
[15:01] <rufra__> i think that its thinking this is a partition install
[15:01] <rufra__> but i have only 1 partition
[15:01] <rufra__> its odd to say the least
[15:03] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, try re-installing grub
[15:03] <rufra__> ok
[15:03] <rufra__> i will
[15:08] <rufra__> Mohan_chml: having probs reinstalling grub
[15:08] <rufra__> i followed the code in the thread you sent me
[15:08] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, what happened?
[15:08] <rufra__> cant chroot
[15:09] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, tried sudo too?
[15:09] <phillw> rufra__: you can either re-install grub, which is covered at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 or resinstall the kernel which is at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35- I'm not sure which one you are suffering from, but I think it is a grub issue.
[15:10] <rufra__> got it cheers guys
[15:15] <rufra__> phillw: having problems upgrading the grub... it says Cannot find list of partitions!
[15:17] <phillw> rufra__: are you following the part of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 that covers "When a good Grub2 becomes a poorly Grub2" ?
[15:18] <rufra__> phillw: i'm unable to ugrade to grub 2. Which section 11 requires. No?
[15:19] <rufra__> this is the dialog: root@ubuntu:/# sudo update-grub sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin Cannot find list of partitions! done
[15:19] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, try using pastebin :)
[15:19] <Mohan_chml> !paste | rufra__
[15:19] <ubot2> rufra__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:20] <rufra__> ok
[15:21] <rufra__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/543088/
[15:22] <rufra__> I noticed I should probably mention I can't even boot into recovery mode... thus the inevitable running from the live disk
[15:28] <rufra__> Mohan_chml phillw: any ideas?
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, I have no clue. then I should prefer you to re-install the kernel as phillw said before
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> I ll brb. dinner
[15:29] <rufra__> ok
[15:30] <rufra__> brb changing comp
[15:34] <Robinux> can i install gns3 0.7.3 on ubuntu 10.10?
[15:44] <Mohan_chml> Robinux, yep. http://sushantwagle.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/gns3-0-7-1-2-on-ubuntu-10-04-lts-the-easy-way/
[15:47] <rufra__> Mohan_chml: back.. still trying to update kernel. Not much luck.
[15:48] <Mohan_chml> rufra__, followed http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35-?
[15:48] <Robinux> Mohan_chml, thanks man
[15:48] <Mohan_chml> Robinux, (:
[15:49] <rufra__> Mohan_chml: I'm currently rebooting into the live cd to try again in case I made a mistake
[15:49] <Mohan_chml> okies
[15:57] <rufra__> Mohan_chml: Ok, tried reinstalling grub. No joy.. going to reboot to try and update the kernel
[15:57] <Mohan_chml> okay
[16:11] <rufra__> Mohan_chml: Got far into the kernel update as it said on the forum phillw provided. when trying to install i get the following: paste.ubuntu.com/543108
[16:14] <ibuclaw> afternoon
[16:14] <Silver_Fox_> Morning
[16:15] <ibuclaw> Silver_Fox_, you could almost be confused for it being. =)
[16:15] <Silver_Fox_> =)
[16:19] <ibuclaw> hehehe
[16:19]  * ibuclaw has been fixing some inline bugs
[16:19] <ibuclaw> Take this C++ code: http://pastebin.com/d67EffyP
[16:20] <ibuclaw> Compared with this identical D program: http://pastebin.com/Q6Nqwquc
[16:20] <ibuclaw> which one do you think is quicker? >:)
[16:27] <rufra__> Anyone care to suggest a fix for my problem? Unable to boot into 10.10 Getting kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Pid:1, comm:swapper Not tainted 2.6.35-22-generic
[16:27] <rufra__> Then I get a call trace with 10 items
[16:28] <total_n00b> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 with default setting and have ext4, swap and extended partitions. Is extended installing by default or it shouldn't be there?
[16:28] <rufra__> i have tried reinstalling the grub to no success and kernel updating following http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35-? was unsuccesful
[16:29] <rufra__> I just installed ubuntu today, on a brand new comp. on the master boot, no extra partitions
[16:32] <ibuclaw> wow, a guide I co-wrote...
[16:33] <ibuclaw> rufra__, I doubt kernel panics are because grub reports no operating system =)
[16:34] <rufra__> i thought so.. However no one has been able to help me out..
[16:34] <ibuclaw> infact, grub has already found operating system and booted it. Linux inits, loads itself into memory then starts booting. =)
[16:35] <rufra__> ibuclaw: any suggestions of how to get around it?
[16:35] <rufra__> ibuclaw: i have reinstalled from live cd about 5 times today. I have been trying to sort this out for about 7 hrs
[16:41] <rufra__> ibuclaw: this is the error dialog I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/543122/
[17:49] <UndiFineD> hello
[17:50] <nlsthzn> hey
[18:16] <bodhizazen> paultag: poke
[18:47] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye.
[19:31] <Puck`> is anyone around to give me a hand with VPN setup? (:
[19:31] <UndiFineD> hey Puck`
[19:31] <bioterror> I set up vpn to my mobile phone couple days ago :-)
[19:32] <Puck`> hi UndiFineD (:
[19:32] <Puck`> bioterror: on ubuntu? (:
[19:32] <bioterror> Puck`, windows mobile ;)
[19:32] <Puck`> I'm using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html
[19:32] <Puck`> bioterror: but I mean the server is on ubuntu? (:
[19:32] <bioterror> Puck`, nope. corporate stuff
[19:33] <Puck`> oh I see
[19:37] <fatharrahman__> UndiFineD: hi
[19:39] <UndiFineD> hey fatharrahman__
[19:39] <fatharrahman__> if I got a credit card is more save to deal with emails related to it at browser level or at programs such as Evolution
[19:39] <fatharrahman__> ?*
[19:42] <fatharrahman__> UndiFineD: is emails more save at Evoluton and shch applications han at browsers?
[19:42] <UndiFineD> fatharrahman__, email can be intercepted, if the mail at some point is not either encrypted or transferred via ssl, it is unsafe
[19:42] <fatharrahman__> than*
[19:42] <UndiFineD> at browser level, all communications must do ssl as well
[19:42] <UndiFineD> so https
[19:43] <UndiFineD> browser would be safer to do this as it is 1 to 1 communications
[19:43] <UndiFineD> email servers pass on to eachother
[19:44] <fatharrahman__> aha
[19:44] <fatharrahman__> clear
[19:45] <UndiFineD> or use an online payment system without creditcard
[19:48] <fatharrahman__> UndiFineD: please take my wormiest greetings to your family :)----ok  that's clear Thanks am trying for the firs time to connect my laptop to our desktop hehe  I'll try
[19:50] <UndiFineD> ok great, what connection type are you going to use
[19:51] <UndiFineD> :)
[19:51] <fatharrahman__> not sure
[19:52] <fatharrahman__> what? do u have an idea?
[19:52] <fatharrahman__> for a newbie
[19:53] <fatharrahman__> ssh
[19:53] <fatharrahman__> i'll open a book and set an ssh
 fatharrahman__, ssh is a good commandline way
 you can also use nfs (for linux and other unix) or samba for file transfers
[20:37] <UndiFineD> there are plenty of ways to communicate between 2 systems
[20:39] <fatharrahman__> what is the application for browsing other linux computer dektop ?
[20:39] <holstein> fatharrahman__: are you running gnome?
[20:40] <fatharrahman__> yes in my laptop gnome and in my desktop lxde I want to browse lxde
[20:40] <holstein> after setting up ssh
[20:40] <UndiFineD> fatharrahman__,  vnc works quite well, there are other similar protocols too
[20:41] <holstein> you go to places - connect to server
[20:41] <holstein> IF your wanting to browse the files on your dekstop
[20:41] <holstein> IF your wanting to control the desktop remotely
[20:41] <holstein> then you should check out VNC
[20:42] <fatharrahman__> I want to do both holstein
[20:43] <holstein> theres also 3rd party tools like http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[20:43] <holstein> for doing it over the internet
[20:43] <holstein> without needing to configure your router
[20:44] <fatharrahman__> is this secure
[20:44] <holstein> i use ssh
[20:44] <holstein> fatharrahman__: teamviewer?
[20:44] <holstein> you dont have to leave it running
[20:44] <holstein> BUT
[20:44] <fatharrahman__> I am learnin only
[20:44] <holstein> try the local tools first
[20:44] <fatharrahman__> at my own room
[20:44] <holstein> vino and vinagre
[20:45] <holstein> fatharrahman__: open a terminal
[20:45] <holstein> type
[20:45] <fatharrahman__> ok
[20:45] <holstein> vino-preferences
[20:45] <holstein> thats the server
[20:45] <holstein> you need to have that running and configured to be able to connect
[20:45] <fatharrahman__> done
[20:46] <holstein> vino should tell you the ip address or host name
[20:46] <holstein> now
[20:46] <holstein> in theory
[20:46] <holstein> you should be able to go to another box
[20:46] <fatharrahman__> Command 'vino-preferences' from package 'vino' (main)
[20:46] <fatharrahman__> vino-preference: command not found
[20:46] <holstein> on your network
[20:46] <holstein> fatharrahman__: OH
[20:46] <holstein> what are you running?
[20:46] <holstein> 10.10?
[20:46] <holstein> there was a change
[20:46] <fatharrahman__> 10.10
[20:46] <holstein> and i havnet tried the new one
[20:46] <holstein> let me look that up...
[20:46] <fatharrahman__> aha
[20:47] <holstein> OH
[20:47] <holstein> vino-preferences
[20:47] <holstein> IF
[20:47] <holstein> you just type
[20:47] <holstein> vino-pr
[20:47] <holstein> and hit tab
[20:47] <fatharrahman__> the   s
[20:47] <holstein> it will auto complete
[20:48] <holstein> if the command is available
[20:48] <fatharrahman__> nice
[20:48] <holstein> :)
[20:48] <holstein> SO
[20:48] <holstein> you get that set up
[20:48] <holstein> on the server side
[20:48] <holstein> then
[20:48] <holstein> go to another box on your LAN
[20:48] <fatharrahman__>  amenu opedned
[20:48] <holstein> and run vino
[20:48] <holstein> OR
[20:49] <holstein> 'remote desktop view' in the menu = vino
[20:49] <holstein> viewer*
[20:49] <fatharrahman__> in my lubuntu 10.04? run vino too?
[20:49] <holstein> fatharrahman__: you might not have it there
[20:49] <holstein> WHEN
[20:49] <holstein> im running variants like that
[20:49] <holstein> i install xtightvncviewer
[20:49] <holstein> in the terminal in lubuntu
[20:49] <holstein> run
[20:50] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer
[20:50] <holstein> then
[20:50] <holstein> run
[20:50] <fatharrahman__> I opned thhe desktop
[20:50] <holstein> xtightnvcviewer 192.168.x.xxx
[20:50] <holstein> the IP of the box your trying to reach ^^
[20:51] <holstein> http://remmina.sourceforge.net/
[20:51] <holstein> ^^ that is what ubuntu is going to
[20:51] <holstein> for remote desktop
[20:51] <fatharrahman__> it is open in desktop also after vino
[20:51] <holstein> fatharrahman__: OH, so your connected?
[20:51] <holstein> vino might be in lubuntu
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> wait a second you are too quick
[20:52] <holstein> i havnet checked
[20:52] <holstein> fatharrahman__: yeah, sorry, im just firing a bunch of info out :)
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> am not connected
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> wo
[20:52] <holstein> fatharrahman__: is your server running?
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> wowowow
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> I am not sure
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> I open
[20:52] <fatharrahman__> tow menus
[20:53] <fatharrahman__> in each one folowing vino
[20:53] <holstein> fatharrahman__: in theory
[20:53] <holstein> when you run vino
[20:53] <fatharrahman__> yeh
[20:53] <holstein> the servers will just auto-magially show up there
[20:54] <fatharrahman__> aha
[20:54] <holstein> fatharrahman__: you in?
[20:55] <fatharrahman__> Your desktop is only reachable over the local network. Others can access your computer using the address 192.168.1.3 or fatharrahman-HP-Mini-110-1100.local.
[20:55] <fatharrahman__> this I found
[20:55] <holstein> right
[20:55] <fatharrahman__> what then
[20:55] <holstein> 192.168.1.3 is the server
[20:55] <holstein> SO
[20:55] <fatharrahman__> ok
[20:55] <holstein> on the other box
[20:56] <fatharrahman__> I typed
[20:56] <holstein> you need to connect to that machine
[20:56] <holstein> with something
[20:56] <fatharrahman__> no
[20:56] <holstein> whatever you feel comfortable with
[20:56] <fatharrahman__> I pressed alwow others to control your desktop
[20:56] <holstein> yeah
[20:56] <holstein> which is fine
[20:56] <holstein> you can put a password in
[20:56] <holstein> if you want
[20:56] <holstein> BUT
[20:56] <holstein> your behind a firewall
[20:57] <fatharrahman__> not sure
[20:58] <holstein> you have a router prolly
[20:58] <holstein> to have more that one computer connected
[20:58] <holstein> and that has a firewall
[20:58] <fatharrahman__> should I type a password
[20:58] <holstein> fatharrahman__: i do
[20:58] <holstein> but i wouldnt worry about it right now
[20:58] <holstein> for a quick test
[20:58] <holstein> im just making sure your aware of the security concerns
[20:59] <holstein> which are minimal for your situation
[20:59] <holstein> fatharrahman__: go ahead and go over to the other machine now
[20:59] <frox> hi, does anyone have experience with overclocking while running ubuntu?  I'm having a problem with cpu frequency scaling overriding the bios settings.
[20:59] <fatharrahman__>                                      I have HUAWEI home gate way
[21:00] <holstein> im not sure how your hardware works fatharrahman__
[21:00] <holstein> but i have a router
[21:00] <holstein> as my gateway
[21:00] <holstein> and it has a firewall
[21:00] <holstein> and i forward ports to my server machine
[21:00] <holstein> as needed
[21:00] <fatharrahman__> am not sure about security
[21:01] <holstein> SO if i have a laptop here
[21:01] <holstein> and i run a VNC server on it
[21:01] <fatharrahman__> never heard
[21:01] <holstein> no port is forwarded to it
[21:01] <holstein> SO you can 'hack' me
[21:01] <holstein> in theory
[21:01] <holstein> STILL no harm in setting a passwork
[21:01] <holstein> password*
[21:02] <holstein> IF i wanted you to be able to connect to my machine
[21:02] <holstein> thats how i would do it
[21:02] <fatharrahman__> how to make that
[21:02] <holstein> forward a port in my router
[21:02] <holstein> set a password
[21:02] <fatharrahman__> password to the tow connected desktop?
[21:02] <fatharrahman__> ok
[21:02] <holstein> and give you my IP and password
[21:02] <fatharrahman__> nice
[21:02] <holstein> :)
[21:02] <holstein> BUT teamviewer is a much easier way to get that same thing going on
[21:02] <fatharrahman__> :)
[21:02] <holstein> without configuring a router
[21:03] <fatharrahman__> yeh
[21:03] <holstein> say, if your grandma was running ubuntu
[21:03] <holstein> and you wanted to help her
[21:03] <holstein> and not talk about a router configuration with her ;)
[21:03] <holstein> ANYWAYS
[21:03] <fatharrahman__> am I your grandma :)
[21:03] <holstein> go to the other box
[21:03] <fatharrahman__> ok
[21:03] <holstein> the one you want to connect from
[21:04] <fatharrahman__> ok
[21:04] <holstein> see if you have vino
[21:04] <fatharrahman__> I did
[21:04] <holstein> is it there?
[21:04] <holstein> OH
[21:04] <fatharrahman__> yes
[21:04] <holstein> fatharrahman__: sorry...
[21:05] <fatharrahman__> why
[21:05] <holstein> vinagre
[21:05] <holstein> thats the viewer
[21:05] <holstein> see if you have vinagre on the lubuntu box
[21:05] <fatharrahman__> Remot desk top Preference
[21:05] <fatharrahman__> same in both
[21:06] <holstein> OK
[21:06] <holstein> on the lubuntu box
[21:06] <holstein> you dont need the server running
[21:06] <holstein> you can have it running
[21:06] <holstein> BUT you dont need it
[21:06] <holstein> you just launch
[21:06] <holstein> vinagre
[21:06] <holstein> and you should see the remote connection availalbe to you
[21:07] <fatharrahman__> I typed vino and it is opened
[21:07] <holstein> fatharrahman__: yeah, close vino
[21:07] <holstein> that was my bad
[21:07] <holstein> close
[21:07] <holstein> vino
[21:07] <holstein> and run vinagre
[21:07] <fatharrahman__> in laptop or desktop ?
[21:07] <holstein> laptop is the lubuntu?
[21:07] <holstein> right?
[21:08] <holstein> your wanting to connect to the desktop?
[21:08] <fatharrahman__> laptop is ubuntu desktop lubuntu I want control desktop
[21:08] <holstein> OK
[21:08] <holstein> so on the desktop
[21:08] <holstein> you ran vino-preferences
[21:08] <fatharrahman__> yah
[21:08] <holstein> and turned the server on
[21:09] <holstein> ont he laptop
[21:09] <holstein> run
[21:09] <holstein> vinagre
[21:09] <holstein> and you'll see the connection there
[21:09] <holstein> IF vinagre is installed there, if not, we'll install a viewer
[21:11] <fatharrahman__> yes a viewer
[21:11] <fatharrahman__> appeared
[21:11] <holstein> :)
[21:11] <holstein> thats about it
[21:11] <holstein> assuming the connection shows up automatically
[21:11] <holstein> and it should
[21:12] <holstein> fatharrahman__: you dont have to access these settings from the command line
[21:12] <holstein> they are in different places in LXDE and gnome AFAIK
[21:13] <holstein> vinagre should be called 'remote desktop viewer'
[21:13] <fatharrahman__> I pressed connect and a menu asked for host
[21:13] <holstein> and vino is somewhere in system settings
[21:13] <holstein> fatharrahman__: OK so you can use the IP
[21:13] <holstein> of the host
[21:13] <holstein> 192.168.2.3 ??
[21:13] <holstein> i think it was
[21:13] <holstein> whatever vino told you it was
[21:14] <fatharrahman__> 1 in place of 2
[21:14] <fatharrahman__> ok you mean it is the laptop adress?
[21:14] <holstein> where ever your trying to connect
[21:16] <holstein> fatharrahman__: your not going to break anything trying the wrong IP address
[21:16] <fatharrahman__> ok
[21:17] <fatharrahman__> is the vnc gonna be secure if I made a passwrd in my laptop remote preferences
[21:17] <holstein> fatharrahman__: this is all on your LAN
[21:18] <holstein> behind your firewall
[21:18] <fatharrahman__> but not in desktop ones
[21:18] <holstein> SO all should be secure back there
[21:18] <holstein> whatever you do
[21:18] <holstein> between the computers
[21:18] <holstein> IF you trust your network
[21:18] <holstein> if you dont have a lot of wifi connected folk you dont know about
[21:19] <fatharrahman__> ?
[21:19] <holstein> lets say you router has wifi
[21:19] <holstein> and its open
[21:19] <holstein> unencrypted
[21:19] <holstein> and i drive up to your house
[21:19] <holstein> and connect to your box
[21:19] <holstein> and guess your password
[21:20] <holstein> thats worst case scenario i think
[21:20] <holstein> if you have a normally safe network you trust
[21:20] <holstein> then you got no worries
[21:21] <fatharrahman__> the gate way got a mac password from the company
[21:21] <fatharrahman__> no one know it to get wifi
[21:21] <holstein> yeah
[21:21] <holstein> i wouldnt sweat it then
[21:21] <gfarmer> Hello.  I have two internal hard drives, and sometimes 1 external, but I want both of my internals to mount upon startup.
[21:22] <holstein> me connecting and hacking you right now would be VERY unlikely
[21:22] <holstein> through your firewall
[21:22] <gfarmer> the problem is that the device name changes for fstab depending on if my external is plugged in or not.  Any tips?
[21:22] <holstein> gfarmer: does the UUID change?
[21:22] <fatharrahman__> holstein an error message told me connection closed ?
[21:23] <holstein> fatharrahman__: double check the password
[21:23] <gfarmer> how do I check the UUID?
[21:23] <holstein> and maybe log out of the server machine and back in fatharrahman__
[21:23] <holstein> double check pass and IP
[21:23] <holstein> gfarmer: i used gparted somehow
[21:23] <holstein> i only had to do it one time
[21:24] <holstein> BUT i used UUID instead of path
[21:24] <holstein> didnt have any issues
[21:24] <gfarmer> my one internal goes from /dev/sda1 to something else when I boot with my external
[21:24] <holstein> yeah, my EEE does that sometimes
[21:24] <holstein> can be a drag
[21:24] <holstein> uuid should be constant though
[21:25] <gfarmer> how do I find the UUID?
[21:25] <holstein> i used gparted
[21:25] <holstein> from the running installation
[21:25] <holstein> let me look...
[21:27] <holstein> gfarmer: yeah
[21:27] <holstein> i find it in gparted
[21:27] <holstein> let me get a screenshot....
[21:27] <gfarmer> where in gparted?
[21:27] <gfarmer> do you have to select a menu option?
[21:28] <gfarmer> oh, nm
[21:28] <gfarmer> under partition, Information gives it when i click the drive
[21:29] <gfarmer> ok, so how do I used that in fstab exactly?
[21:30] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu/screenshots/Screenshot.png
[21:30] <holstein> ...too late...
[21:30] <holstein> gfarmer: let me see if i can find that
[21:30] <gfarmer> haha, thanks
[21:31] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[21:31] <holstein> down the page a bit
[21:31] <holstein> in examples
[21:31] <holstein> UUID=be35a709-c787-4198-a903-d5fdc80ab2f8  /  ext3  relatime,errors=remount-ro  0  1
[21:31] <gfarmer> got it
[21:31] <gfarmer> sweet
[21:31] <gfarmer> thanks
[21:31] <holstein> :)
[21:32] <gfarmer> is there an easier way to do the automatic mounting?  I like how cleanly it creates a folder in /media, mounts the drive, and all that jazz when you click on a mountable drive in "Places"
[21:33] <gfarmer> but I can't find how to do that; just how to mount it to a permanent directory
[21:33] <holstein> not sure
[21:33] <holstein> ive only used a dir
[21:33] <holstein> i know what you mean though...
[21:34] <gfarmer> yeah; I just wish I could figure out what all is going on when you do that nice little button click
[21:34] <holstein> hehe
[21:34] <gfarmer> this should work fine though; thanks for the tip
[21:34] <holstein> magic ;)
[21:34] <holstein> gfarmer: anytime
[21:34] <oldtropador> I am very very new to ubuntu, but I am an old dos used I need help Instaling app's in the app pool? non Dep pacakages?
[21:34] <holstein> hey oldtropador
[21:34] <holstein> what are you running?
[21:34] <holstein> 10.10?
[21:35] <oldtropador> yes
[21:35] <holstein> what are you trying to install?
[21:36] <oldtropador> boinc
[21:37] <oldtropador> and new drivers for my gtx460
[21:38] <holstein> im not sure about the drivers
[21:38] <holstein> are you using the proprietary nividia drivers?
[21:38] <holstein> nvidia*
[21:38] <holstein> i have one nvidia card running here on a 64bit box
[21:38] <holstein> and the open source drivers are fine for my needs
[21:38] <holstein> anyways...
[21:38] <holstein> boinc
[21:39] <holstein> well
[21:39] <holstein> software in general
[21:39] <holstein> you can always build whatever you want
[21:39] <oldtropador> also ati diver the new catylist
[21:39] <holstein> the process is usually different depending on the softwarre
[21:39] <holstein> and its dependancies
[21:39] <holstein> BUT
[21:40] <holstein> i always tell new folk to go in this order
[21:40] <holstein> first
[21:40] <holstein> try the ubuntu repos
[21:40] <holstein> the extra ones too
[21:41] <holstein> and i looks like boinc is in the repos
[21:41] <holstein> boinc - metapackage for the BOINC client and the manager
[21:41] <yofel> oldtropador: are you using nvidia or ati? gtx460 sounds like nvidia
[21:41] <holstein> oldtropador: have you tried that version?
[21:41] <oldtropador> you are talking over my head
[21:42] <holstein> oldtropador: sorry
[21:42] <holstein> have you installed any software yet?
[21:42] <holstein> used any package manager?
[21:42] <holstein> i'll take a step back...
[21:42] <oldtropador> I am building a new rig and want to run under ubunta
[21:43] <holstein> you can run 'software center'
[21:43] <oldtropador> I also have may current rig with dual boot
[21:43] <yofel> oldtropador: to install software, go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center
[21:43] <holstein> and search for boinc
[21:43] <oldtropador> it dose not see my gtx460
[21:44] <oldtropador> the version inthe software centrer is an older version
[21:44] <yofel> oldtropador: what do you mean with 'it does not see my gtx460'? and what version does it show
[21:45]  * holstein ...biab...
[21:45] <holstein> yofel: o/
[21:45] <yofel> holstein: o/
[21:45] <oldtropador> I need the new version so bboinc can use the gtx460
[21:46] <oldtropador> and i need the newer drivers
[21:46] <yofel> oldtropador: I checked the boinc website, maverick (10.10) has the newest boinc version, but you need to have the proprietary nvidia driver installed for CUDA
[21:46] <yofel> maverick has 260.19.06, is that not new enough?
[21:47] <yofel> (current is 260.19.21)
[21:48] <yofel> er, 260.19.26 actually, but does it now work with 260.19.06?
[21:48] <oldtropador> what is or where is maverick
[21:48] <yofel> oldtropador: that's the name of the ubuntu release, Maverick Meerkat 10.10
[21:48] <oldtropador> yes to your question on the driver
[21:48] <yofel> oldtropador: which release are you using?
[21:49] <oldtropador> i CAN ANSWER i'MM IN WINDOWAT THE MOMENT
[21:50] <aveilleux> Cruise control
[21:50] <oldtropador> I just down loaded it and installe d with a thumb drive
[21:50] <yofel> ok, well, if you need the newest driver, it's available here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[21:52] <oldtropador> thanks
[21:53] <yofel> oldtropador: come back if you need help in adding the PPA
[21:55] <oldtropador> I'm in a chalenge session at the moment at prime grid an can't sut dowon
[21:56] <oldtropador> but I know where you guy's are now . Thanks for the help!!
[22:07] <kristian-aalborg> can I unmount my home partition, then split it?
[22:10] <deejoe> non-destructively?
[22:10] <deejoe> kristian-aalborg: how full is it?
[22:11] <kristian-aalborg> deejoe: hi
[22:11] <kristian-aalborg> yes, I'd prefer not to mess anything up
[22:11] <kristian-aalborg> it's very, erm, unfull?
[22:11] <deejoe> kristian-aalborg: under some circumstances, it's possible, but it's not something I'd consider beginner-level
[22:11] <kristian-aalborg> 300 megs used out of a 2 gigs or so
[22:12] <kristian-aalborg> deejoe: I only hang out here to feel young ;)
[22:12] <deejoe> haha, ok
[22:12] <kristian-aalborg> I'd do it from a livecd, but I can't run that many (cd's)
[22:12] <kristian-aalborg> I got dsl running right now, though
[22:12] <deejoe> if you've got /home on an LVM volume, and it's got an ext2 or ext3 filesystem, you can use resize2fs to shrink the filesystem, then lvmumble to resize the LVM
[22:13] <kristian-aalborg> it's lucid
[22:13] <deejoe> lvresize
[22:13] <deejoe> I honestly don't know what a default lucid install uses
[22:14] <deejoe> what lucid I have has been upgraded from previous versions.
[22:14] <gfarmer> kristian-aalborg: you could also try using gparted, right?
[22:15] <deejoe> issuing 'less /etc/fstab' should show you what filesystem /home uses (if indeed it is a separate partition)
[22:15] <deejoe> and if you get something intelligible out of issuing 'sudo lvdisplay' then you're probably in good shape there
[22:15] <kristian-aalborg> gfarmer: unfortunately not
[22:16] <deejoe> kristian-aalborg: of coures, all of these carries extreme hazard for your data, so you'll want to have an archive and a backup of it, or be prepared to lose it if something goes amiss.
[22:17] <kristian-aalborg> hmmmm
[22:19] <kristian-aalborg> I might be getting a new drive to boot from soon, perhaps I'd better wait
[22:25] <dAMMERUNG> I'm looking for an FS that can be read-write by Windows 7, OSX, and Linux and also can handle files 8GB. any recommendations?
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> ntfs?
[22:27] <kristian-aalborg> deejoe: would it be less risky and more easy to do make just a 5 mb (or so) fat32 partition?
[22:27] <dAMMERUNG> OSX can't rw NTFS
[22:29] <kristian-aalborg> sorry, I thought so
[22:29] <kristian-aalborg> fat32 then?
[22:30] <dAMMERUNG> fat32 can't handle files 8GB
[22:30] <gfarmer> exit
[22:31] <dAMMERUNG> i know it's silly. the anti-competitiveness of MS and Apple really ticks me off
[22:32] <aveilleux> dAMMERUNG: That's less of an anticompetitive practice and more of a reasonable limitation on the technology of that time
[22:33] <aveilleux> dAMMERUNG: FAT32 has been around for decades, and when it was designed nobody thought people would need files larger than 8GB
[22:33] <yofel> well, another PC with a drive shared over samba would probably pull that off, but I think ntfs is probably the best option on your local system
[22:33] <dAMMERUNG>  yeah but it'd be so easy for them to add rw for ext4 and xfs and the like, they just don't
[22:34] <dAMMERUNG> it's actually for an external usb drive that I want to be able to access from any of my machines yofel
[22:34] <aveilleux> dAMMERUNG: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
[22:34] <yofel> dAMMERUNG: can't OSX write to ext2?
[22:35] <dAMMERUNG> thanks aveilleux, though that's still no write
[22:35]  * yofel isn't sure how large files ext2 can handle though
[22:35] <aveilleux> dAMMERUNG: ext2 would be the fs you want... there's an ext2 driver for Windows, and OSX can natively handle ext2
[22:36] <dAMMERUNG> looks like you're right aveilleux it can also handle up to 16GB
[22:36] <aveilleux> dAMMERUNG: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[22:38] <dAMMERUNG> great thanks looks like it will work
[22:39] <dAMMERUNG> i'll probably test it on a spare drive first
[23:38] <Bizurke> I'm wondering about using swap on a 10.04 VPS running one wordpress site. I'm not a fan of swap, but I see my memory get maxed out really fast and I would like to have some room for error. Would tuning swapiness for a webserver be advised?
[23:39] <holstein> how does it run with swap turned off?
[23:39] <Bizurke>  just fine until I get over 10 clients connected
[23:39] <Bizurke> I noticed that it never hits swap at all, so i was thinking I should make it do so
[23:39] <holstein> you on a solid state disc?
[23:40] <holstein> hard drive*
[23:40] <Bizurke> it's a VPS, I just have access through a CP to allocate swap, then I can tune swapiness.  I'm sure it's on a RAID array
[23:40] <Bizurke> like, a hosted vps
[23:40] <holstein> OH
[23:40] <holstein> yeah, so its not even your hardware :)
[23:40] <Bizurke> exactly
[23:41] <Bizurke> I've never had this problem with debian servers of the same specs
[23:41] <Bizurke> I can run 50 apache sessions with only like half of my ram being used. But on Ubuntu 10 session will halt my server
[23:41] <holstein> Bizurke: 10.04?
[23:41] <holstein> hmmm
[23:41] <Bizurke> yeah
[23:41] <holstein> yeah, i see up there
[23:41] <holstein> interesing
[23:41] <holstein> is it up to date?
[23:41] <Bizurke> indeed
[23:42] <Bizurke> I'm thinking I might have to ditch apache for lighthttpd
[23:42] <Bizurke> surprisingly apache is using more memory than mysql
[23:43] <holstein> ive never needed to do anything other than a stock setup
[23:43] <holstein> auto partitioning
[23:44] <holstein> i know ubuntu-server is slow...
[23:44] <holstein> #ubuntu-server*
[23:44] <holstein> the support channel
[23:44] <holstein> if you can hang out there though
[23:44] <Bizurke> ah, didn't even realize that excsted
[23:44] <Bizurke> existed*
[23:44] <holstein> im sure someone there would be more savvy
[23:44] <Bizurke> probably
[23:44] <holstein> Bizurke: i pinged a guy in my LUG
[23:45] <holstein> that is running buntu on a VPS
[23:45] <Bizurke> sweet
[23:45] <holstein> no word though
[23:45] <holstein> yet
[23:45] <holstein> if i get him, i'll try and get you guys talking :)
[23:45] <Bizurke> awesome
[23:46] <Bizurke> I think I might just buy more ram and be lazy