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[10:13] <xaetak> Hi, can I report bugs here?
[10:30] <rork> !bugs | xaetak
[10:30] <ubot2> xaetak: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:50]  * penguin42 is having problems reporting a bug under Natty; it's telling me that python, python-minimal and unity-asset-pool are obsolete packages and to upgrade before reporting, but apt-get install unity-asset-pool tells me it's the latest version - wth?
[16:10] <TeTeT> is there a boilerplate for answering bugs filed for 9.04? Something that it is end of life now?
[16:10] <hggdh> TeTeT: yes, it should be under the standard responses on the wiki, just a sec
[16:13] <hggdh> TeTeT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Distro%20has%20reached%20EOL
[16:15] <TeTeT> hggdh: thanks
[16:15] <TeTeT> hggdh: btw I'll probably get permission to write a more evolved workload scheduler for UEC, which you might be able to use for long term testing as well
[16:16] <TeTeT> hggdh: I run the http workload in the training UEC since weeks and it seems to work fine
[16:16] <ElPasmo> Hi people, I'm pretty new at bugsquad and I'm beginning to try to understand the triage process. I can't understand why the bug 689722 is a bug itself and there is not enough with 601974 who describes the same problem.
[16:16] <jdstrand> bug #689722
[16:16] <hggdh> TeTeT: *extremely* cool, thank you!
[16:16] <jdstrand> bug #601974
[16:16] <jdstrand> guess no bot here
[16:17] <ElPasmo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/689722
[16:17] <ElPasmo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/601974
[16:17] <jdstrand> ElPasmo: 601974 was to have the functionality. it is there via gsettings and marked 'Fix Released'. 689722 is a wishlist bug to expose that functionality via a GUI
[16:18] <hggdh> jdstrand: just pinged -irc about the bot, thanks for the heads-up
[16:18] <jdstrand> ElPasmo: while the two are very closely related, they are different and it is good practice to not keep adding to a closed bug but to file a new one instead.
[16:20] <ElPasmo> oh, ok... I was confused. I thought the fix released was about this comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/601974/comments/2
[16:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 601974 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "option to show date in the panel (affects: 7) (heat: 36)" [Wishlist,Fix released]
[16:20] <ElPasmo> thanks for the explanation jdstrand :)
[16:20] <jdstrand> ElPasmo: sure, np :)
[16:20] <hggdh> bug 601974
[16:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 601974 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "option to show date in the panel (affects: 7) (heat: 36)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601974
[16:20] <hggdh> go figure...
[16:22] <charlie-tca> bot started 3 minutes ago
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[16:42] <hggdh> ah, this is why...
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[18:27] <charlie-tca> Are we doing anything to help launchpad with the bugjam ? https://dev.launchpad.net/BugJam
[18:34] <njin> hello to all,  bug 665250
[18:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665250 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (Ubuntu) "cangjie5 (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665250
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[19:43] <hggdh> njin: if you do not say what gives on a bug, it will be a bit more complex to help ;-)
[19:50] <njin> hggdh: :-(  I  can only suppose the root of this issue, but sincerly i don't know what is cangjie5, cangjie3 , sorry to all
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[19:51] <njin> I don't want to learn chinese  :.(
[19:53] <micahcowan> what's this in reference to?
[19:54]  * micahcowan doesn't know chinese, either, but he knows a number of characters (via Japanese), and might know just enough to understand a problem, depending on what it is.
[19:54] <hggdh> micahcowan: this is bug 665250
[19:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665250 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (Ubuntu) "cangjie5 (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665250
[19:54] <njin> bug655250
[19:54]  * micahcowan i.e., he couldn't translate, but he could fake being able to type Chinese or something if it's an input method bug, locale-specific issue, etc
[19:55] <njin> bug 655250
[19:55] <ubot2> njin: Bug 655250 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/655250 is private
[19:55] <njin> bug 665250
[19:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 665250 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (Ubuntu) "cangjie5 (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665250
[19:57] <micahcowan> Huh. I probably can't help either. Those cangjie codes don't mean anything to me. They don't seem to be related to pronunciation, maybe they indicate the form of the character/composition from radicals.
[19:57] <micahcowan> I wonder if the coding system changed between versions, or something.
[20:03] <micahcowan> Apparently, that's exactly what it is: indicates the form of the character. Pretty cool; you can type Chinese without actually knowing Chinese (just knowing what the characters look like) :)
[20:11] <micahcowan> Those key combos do seem to produce those characters at the online input engine at http://www.cangjieinput.com/?lang=en
[20:11] <micahcowan> Apparently there are multiple versions of the code, though, so it doesn't necessarily follow that the current version in Ubuntu ought to... maybe they changed something.
[20:25] <hggdh> aye. But way beyond my meager knowledge of alternate typing :-(
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[21:46] <hggdh> jcastro: time for a quick Q&A?
[21:46] <jcastro> sure
[21:46] <jcastro> what's up?
[21:48] <hggdh> jcastro: I just came accross https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-December/236770.html and I am unsure on how to fully answer
[21:50] <jcastro> hggdh: he should file a bug on "ubuntu-community" in launchpad about this
[21:50] <jcastro> then I can ask someone from the CC to look at it or something
[21:50] <jcastro> but a bug report is the best place
[21:50] <hggdh> jcastro: so I should open a bug and assign it to ...?
[21:51] <hggdh> oh
[21:51] <jcastro> if you just file it in "ubuntu-community" we watch that project
[21:51] <hggdh> duh
[21:51] <jcastro> and one of us will get it assigned
[21:51] <hggdh> k. I will copy the email in the bug
[21:51]  * jcastro nods
[21:52] <hggdh> jcastro: thank you, sir
[21:54] <jcastro> I don't really get what the guy is trying to say
[21:55] <jcastro> unless he really means trying to enforce a CoC on everyone who uses ubuntu, which doesn't make sense and is impossible
[21:56] <hggdh> yes, this is pretty much what I answered(but stating this was my PoV)
[21:57] <hggdh> but I do not think I am able to give him an 'official' answer
[21:58] <hggdh> anyway: bug 689893 is now opened ;-)
[21:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 689893 in ubuntu-community "Doubt about the CoC (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689893