Ddorda | good night ppl :) | 00:20 |
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dmcglone | paultag: you in here? | 02:10 |
paultag | dmcglone: I'm in here, yeah | 02:10 |
dmcglone | is the Ubuntu channel down? I can't seem to join | 02:10 |
paultag | dmcglone: -us-oh ? | 02:10 |
paultag | dmcglone: which one? | 02:10 |
dmcglone | Joining #ubuntu-oh requires an invitation. | 02:10 |
paultag | dmcglone: -us-oh | 02:11 |
dmcglone | that was weird | 02:11 |
dmcglone | after all this time, it finally crapped out with that setting | 02:11 |
paultag | dmcglone: :) | 02:11 |
dmcglone | wow | 02:12 |
paultag | I'm not sure what ubuntu-oh is | 02:12 |
paultag | but it's not us-oh, and it's not a country | 02:12 |
dmcglone | I've been using ubuntu-oh for a long time | 02:13 |
paultag | odd | 02:13 |
dmcglone | yeah | 02:13 |
paultag | might be on forward | 02:13 |
paultag | freenode was having issues today | 02:13 |
dmcglone | I see | 02:13 |
dmcglone | so thats probably why | 02:13 |
paultag | 02:13 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Founder : stalcup | 02:13 |
paultag | dmcglone: yeah, it's on forward. That's vorian | 02:13 |
paultag | 02:13 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Mode lock : +if #ubuntu-ohio | 02:14 |
dmcglone | huh | 02:14 |
paultag | whoh | 02:14 |
paultag | ubuntu-ohio is wrong too | 02:14 |
paultag | wtf is going on there | 02:14 |
dmcglone | lol | 02:14 |
paultag | Ahhha | 02:14 |
dmcglone | no idea dude, your the computer genius you tell me.. LOL | 02:14 |
paultag | that was Jacob, forward data: | 02:14 |
paultag | 02:14 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Mode lock : +insf #ubuntu-us-oh | 02:14 |
paultag | gotcha. | 02:14 |
dmcglone | lol | 02:14 |
paultag | dmcglone: so your join to ubuntu-oh --> ubuntu-ohio --> ubuntu-us-oh | 02:15 |
paultag | doh ;) | 02:15 |
dmcglone | Ah why does everything always have to be so complicated ;-) | 02:15 |
paultag | dmcglone: it's not! | 02:15 |
dmcglone | ah maybe for you, but an old geezer like me it is.. ;-) | 02:16 |
dmcglone | your studying computer science correct? | 02:16 |
paultag | dmcglone: yessir | 02:17 |
paultag | dmcglone: last semester in a month | 02:17 |
dmcglone | is computer science as complicated as they let it on to be | 02:17 |
paultag | dmcglone: it can be ;) | 02:17 |
paultag | dmcglone: i'm trying to make it easy with my blog posts | 02:18 |
dmcglone | what do you learn that one couldn't learn on their own? | 02:18 |
paultag | just wrote this one -- http://blog.pault.ag/post/2175430707/the-rsa-algorithm-humanized-sorta | 02:18 |
paultag | dmcglone: we learn stuff that's very hard to learn on your own. Computer Science != Programming | 02:18 |
paultag | dmcglone: CS is the study of how computers work, on a theoretical level, and how to best use them | 02:18 |
paultag | dmcglone: programming is the use of that. It's like a chemist vs a baker who uses their stuff | 02:19 |
dmcglone | does it differ very much from electronic engineering? | 02:19 |
paultag | dmcglone: yes, EE is a lot more detailed, and more like practical physycs. CS is abstract and more philosiphy | 02:19 |
paultag | dmcglone: you can be a great programmer without knowing any computer science, just as you can be a cs rockstar and not know how to code | 02:20 |
paultag | but it helps ;) | 02:20 |
dmcglone | I see, because I took EE at Devry but still have 3 quarters to go :-/ | 02:21 |
paultag | good luck! | 02:21 |
dmcglone | I haven't decided whether I'm going to go back though | 02:21 |
paultag | mm. | 02:22 |
dmcglone | I haven't been back to college since 1994 :-/ | 02:22 |
paultag | aye | 02:22 |
dmcglone | I was thinking the other day whether I should go back or not, but I can't decide whether I should go back into EE or take CS | 02:23 |
paultag | dmcglone: only you can decide :) | 02:23 |
paultag | dmcglone: do you like math or math? | 02:23 |
dmcglone | it's not my favorite, but I am good with it, because of my EE | 02:23 |
paultag | then yes :) | 02:23 |
dmcglone | I had to learn EE mathmetics | 02:24 |
paultag | aye | 02:24 |
dmcglone | reading resistors etc. etc | 02:24 |
paultag | I have a little thing from radio shack that lets me spin the colors | 02:24 |
paultag | I can't remember what order they're in | 02:24 |
dmcglone | I swear them color bands can be a pain in the butt sometimes | 02:24 |
dmcglone | lol | 02:24 |
dmcglone | exactly | 02:25 |
dmcglone | you took the words right out of my mouth | 02:25 |
dmcglone | I couldn't tell you either it's been so long | 02:25 |
paultag | yeah, so I mean, if you're good at math and logic the only answer to EE or CS I can give is yes | 02:26 |
dmcglone | I'm more interested in programming and working with them, not building them or fixing them | 02:27 |
paultag | you can learn to program without Uni. CS is a theoretical degree | 02:27 |
dmcglone | back when I was in college they didn't have CS | 02:27 |
paultag | o.O | 02:27 |
paultag | it's an old field | 02:27 |
paultag | not in the grand scheme of things | 02:27 |
dmcglone | you mean CS? | 02:28 |
paultag | but any time after the 70's, they had plenty | 02:28 |
paultag | yeah | 02:28 |
dmcglone | Devry must have not offered it | 02:28 |
paultag | ah | 02:28 |
paultag | hell, ada lovelace mang | 02:28 |
paultag | so, 1850's | 02:28 |
dmcglone | woah | 02:29 |
paultag | dmcglone: she was the first computer programmer | 02:29 |
dmcglone | yeah, but I thought that fell more into the EE category | 02:30 |
dmcglone | back then that is | 02:30 |
dmcglone | because back then, they were just starting out and I would believe the focus would be more on the engineering of the machine | 02:30 |
paultag | dmcglone: electricity was not common back then | 02:30 |
paultag | dmcglone: you can program a physical computer | 02:31 |
paultag | dmcglone: remember, CS is the theory of this stuff. Don't matter if it's quarks, electrons or physical rods | 02:31 |
dmcglone | ok yeah thats right | 02:32 |
paultag | dmcglone: I'll catch you in a few. I'm going to get back to this paper of mine | 02:32 |
paultag | dmcglone: much love! | 02:32 |
dmcglone | Ok thanks for the help | 02:33 |
paultag | sure sure | 02:33 |
dmcglone | I appreciate it | 02:33 |
paultag | np man | 02:33 |
dmcglone | have a good one | 02:33 |
paultag | back atcha | 02:33 |
vorian | paultag: all those extra was a load of crap from the ubuntu-irc council not being able to choose the proper naming | 04:34 |
nhandler | vorian: LoCo naming standard is a LoCo Council issue (that I thought was finally getting sorted out this cycle) | 04:46 |
vorian | nhandler: this was like 2/3 years ago | 04:54 |
YoBoY | good morning | 06:31 |
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paultag | vorian: aye, it's ubuntu-ISO_CODE*, and for subteams, it's -SHORT_ID* ( so they can have subteams ) | 07:14 |
paultag | vorian: it makes it easy to parse ( and looks good ) | 07:14 |
paultag | only issue is with stuff like ubuntu-qa | 07:14 |
dholbach | good morning! | 07:37 |
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dholbach | mhall119, heya - how's the ubuntu base app coming on? :) | 11:11 |
cjohnston | mornin | 12:01 |
mhall119 | dholbach: you know, I still don't have a project name for it yet ;( | 12:26 |
nigelb | Morning cjohnston, mhall119 :) | 12:27 |
mhall119 | morning nigelb | 12:27 |
cjohnston | can someone review my merge proposals today if they get some time please | 12:31 |
mhall119 | dholbach: the past couple weeks I've been working on https://launchpad.net/xdg-launcher | 12:33 |
nigelb | mhall119: If I asked you to kick cjohnston for me, would you be kind enough to do so? ;) | 12:36 |
dholbach | mhall119, ubuntu-django-foundations? | 12:39 |
cjohnston | its not worth if mhall119 | 12:40 |
dholbach | I know it'S boring, but it's a better start than nothing :) | 12:40 |
dholbach | mhall119, wow, you're working on a lot of different projects :) | 12:40 |
mhall119 | dholbach: I know, I'm scattered | 12:51 |
mhall119 | xdg-launcher is actually being made for Qimo though | 12:51 |
mhall119 | I just figured I'd make it generic enough for other uses | 12:51 |
mhall119 | it's also a good intro into pygtk for me | 12:52 |
daker | mhall119, it would good if it can autohide | 12:57 |
mhall119 | daker: file a bug ;) | 12:59 |
daker | woot | 12:59 |
cjohnston | I'll file you a bunch of bugs | 13:00 |
cjohnston | lol | 13:00 |
mhall119 | I've already filed myself a bunch of bugs | 13:01 |
cjohnston | spam alert | 13:02 |
mhall119 | alright guys: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-django-foundations | 13:04 |
mhall119 | I made the 3 of you admins too | 13:05 |
daker | yay | 13:07 |
mhall119 | daker: :P | 13:26 |
daker | mhall119, if you try to disable the "Games" menu you will get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/543061/ | 14:11 |
daker | mhall119, i am trying to fix bug 688390 | 14:40 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 688390 in xdg-launcher "Refresh on menu changes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688390 | 14:40 |
daker | mhall119, i am all most done with bug bug 688390 | 16:18 |
daker | bug 688390 | 16:18 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 688390 in xdg-launcher "Refresh on menu changes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688390 | 16:18 |
mhall119 | daker: if you use the xdg-launcher script, it should warn you about not providing a menu | 17:43 |
mhall119 | daker: really? awesome | 17:43 |
daker | mhall119, bug 688390 | 17:43 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 688390 in xdg-launcher "Refresh on menu changes (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688390 | 17:44 |
daker | there is a branch linked there | 17:44 |
mhall119 | daker: does that just rebuild the menu every x seconds? | 17:46 |
daker | mhall119, no it rebuild the menu when there is a change | 17:46 |
daker | mhall119, menu.add_monitor(self.menu_changed_cb, launchers) | 17:47 |
mhall119 | oh cool, so that's part of gmenu then? | 17:47 |
daker | yes | 17:48 |
daker | so when there is a change i rebuild the menu | 17:49 |
mhall119 | awesome man! thanks | 17:50 |
daker | yw | 17:50 |
mhall119 | daker: this rocks! | 19:07 |
mhall119 | is it ready to merge? | 19:07 |
daker | mhall119, i don't know :) | 19:08 |
daker | i'll propose it for merge | 19:09 |
mhall119 | I'm happy with it, so unless there's more you're working on for that bug, I'd like to merge it | 19:09 |
daker | just wait i think i need to fix something | 19:10 |
mhall119 | what? | 19:10 |
mhall119 | I made a change to yours already, to make it re-calculate the bar width when rebuilding | 19:10 |
daker | mhall119, ah that's it | 19:11 |
daker | so it ok | 19:11 |
daker | it's* | 19:11 |
mhall119 | cool, merging it now | 19:11 |
daker | merge it | 19:11 |
mhall119 | done and released 0.0.4, thanks again | 19:21 |
daker | mhall119, what should XDG launcher do in addition to what we have ? | 19:21 |
daker | \o/ | 19:21 |
mhall119 | that's really all I *needed* it to do for Qimo | 19:21 |
mhall119 | doing dock-style window switching would be a bonus | 19:22 |
mhall119 | but I don't want it to be a tasklist | 19:22 |
mhall119 | I was thinking having a submenu entries present as actual menus in the launcher | 19:23 |
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