[07:29] <artnay> I recently joined https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-translators but there was side effect: I'm now part of ~15 different LimeWire Translators groups
[07:29] <artnay> a side... anyways, ideas why this happens?
[07:34] <happyaron> artnay: send an email to ~rosetta-admins, and ask them to remove ~launchpad-translators from Limeware group, it is a dead project now.
[07:55] <artnay> happyaron: done
[07:55] <udienz> dpm: are you there?
[07:55] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[07:56] <dpm> hi udienz, yeah, just logged in :)
[07:56] <udienz> morning dpm
[07:56] <udienz> dpm: i'm Mahyuddin Susanto
[07:56] <happyaron> artnay: ah, dpm is here and you can ask him directly
[07:56] <happyaron> artnay: he's the admin, :)
[07:56] <dpm> udienz, ah hi Mayyudin, nice to meet you :)
[07:57] <udienz> ;) my pleasure
[07:57] <artnay> dpm: just sent some e-mail to rosetta@launchpad.net - so when you have time... :-)
[07:57] <andrejz> morning everyone :)
[07:57] <udienz> morning andrejz, artnay, happyaron
[07:57] <dpm> udienz, sorry for the misspelling, Mahyuddin
[07:58] <udienz> dpm: no problem
[07:58] <happyaron> udienz: hey, :)
[08:02] <dpm> hi artnay, good morning. I haven't received any e-mail though. What's the subject of the e-mail about? Could you open a support request instead at https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+addquestion?
[08:04] <artnay> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/689533
[08:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 689533 in rosetta "Don't add Launchpad Tranalations members to Limewire Translators (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[08:06] <dpm> artnay, ok, let me have a look at the bug, but what was the e-mail about?
[08:06] <artnay> dpm: same thing, happyaron suggested to send an e-mail
[08:07] <dpm> artnay, there is no need to send an e-mail. If you file a bug, everyone involved is notified. Sending the e-mail just means a duplicate read, which won't speed things up. Let me have a quick look at the bug
[08:08] <artnay> dpm: I know, I sent the e-mail first and after your question filed a bug. should have done the latter first
[08:09] <dpm> artnay, a bug or a support request are the best thing to do, as we try to be transparent in our communication. Either would work. But don't worry, we've got the bug already and we'll look into it
[08:10] <dpm> artnay, where did you see you joined those teams? I cannot see them listed in https://launchpad.net/~jiri-gronroos/+participation
[08:11] <artnay> dpm: https://translations.launchpad.net/~jiri-gronroos below
[08:13] <happyaron> dpm: limewire-translators group has assigned ~launchpad-translators to many languages of that group.
[08:13] <happyaron> dpm: https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/limewire-translators
[08:14] <dpm> Let me have a look, thanks for the pointer happyaron
[08:14] <happyaron> :)
[08:15] <dpm> artnay, in any case, you weren't added to any teams, just to additional translation groups
[08:15] <dpm> happyaron, did you get the last e-mail re: ubuntu-docs Simplified Chinese translations with the diagram? Did that help?
[08:16] <happyaron> dpm: yes, I just read it, many thanks!
[08:16] <dpm> great :)
[08:16] <happyaron> I suggest translation groups should invite teams to join, rather than add them directly.
[08:17] <dpm> happyaron, yeah, it seems the limewire guys weren't too sure how translation groups work. We'll have to get in touch with them
[08:18] <happyaron> :)
[08:19] <dpm> oh, I hadn't forgotten that, have you guys seen http://www.limewire.com?
[08:19] <dpm> s/hadn't/had/
[08:20] <happyaron> It has been closed IIRC.
[08:21] <udienz> dpm: i have submit requset about ubuntu-l10n-id at herehttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/137577
[08:21] <udienz> as your suggest, we create a admin groups
[08:22] <dpm> udienz, yeah, I saw it. I'll forward it to the people who can change ownerships in Launchpad
[08:22] <udienz> dpm: thanks
[08:22] <dpm> udienz, admin groups? My suggestion was rather to have more communication in the team
[08:23] <andrejz> @dpm: I have a question. Has the default translation policy for new projects in launchpad been changed to restriced yet ?
[08:23] <udienz> dpm: yes its one way to communicate. last night we communicate each others via emails
[08:24] <dpm> hi andrejz, not yet, that's bug 664410
[08:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 664410 in rosetta "Set the default translations permissions to Structured, assigned to Launchpad Translators (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664410
[08:24] <udienz> and sometime via facebook :)
[08:24] <dpm> udienz, oh right, sounds good
[08:25] <andrejz> subscribed, thanks dpm
[08:25] <dpm> udienz, it would be really cool if you guys could organize a translation jam during the Ubuntu Global Jam as well. It would be a great time to get to know the others in the team
[08:26] <udienz> dpm: okay, i'll coordinate with ubuntu-id staff first
[08:27] <andrejz> udienz - my suggestion is beer - meet with other team members and drink beer together - that always works in my experience :D
[08:27] <udienz> hahaha
[08:28] <udienz> andrejz: we meet 1 years ago at Bogor, 20 KM from Jakarta Indonesia
[08:28] <andrejz> we do it once per month - it's great - really helps with the team building process
[08:28] <andrejz> of course not everybody can come all the time
[08:29] <andrejz> some people almost never come due to logistic issues
[08:30] <udienz> andrejz: i can't do it, because indonesia is very large, a half of europe :D
[08:31] <udienz> but, we meet if any moment
[08:31] <udienz> maybe ~3-5 each meeting
[08:31] <andrejz> well then you can meet online and drink virtual beer :P
[08:32] <udienz> andrejz: ahahaha
[08:33] <udienz> hm.. i see limewire translations group at me lp page
[08:34] <dpm> udienz, can you please show me the link?
[08:35] <udienz> dpm: limewire? https://translations.launchpad.net/~udienz
[08:35] <udienz> https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/limewire-translators
[08:35] <dpm> your account's link only, that's fine :)
[08:36] <udienz> oh.. ok
[08:38] <danilos> andrejz, fwiw, no need for virtual beer: you can meet online and yet drink real beer :P
[08:42] <dpm> :)
[08:43] <andrejz> @danilos: true
[08:44] <dpm> artnay, ok, replied to the bug you opened, converted it onto a question and sorted it out. If that solves your problem, please mark  https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/137632 as solved
[08:44] <dpm> udienz, that should solve your problem, too ^
[08:45] <udienz> s/Tranalations/Translations
[08:54] <dpm> udienz, also I forgot to mention it on my e-mail, but if you use Facebook and microblogging, another way of keeping up to date with Ubuntu translations is FB and identi.ca/twitter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact/#Keeping%20up%20to%20date%20with%20translation%20news%20and%20announcements
[09:08] <dpm> udienz, ok, I've transferred your support request to someone who'll be able to transfer the ownership to ubuntu-id-council
[09:15] <udienz> dpm: thanks
[09:16] <dpm> no worries :)
[13:15] <andrejz> dpm, i have a quick questions
[13:15] <andrejz> question
[13:15] <andrejz> are there any plans to translate LXDE (Lubuntu) in launchpad in this cycle
[13:18] <dpm> andrejz, unless LXDE is promoted to main, I don't think so. I know what it is, but I'm not familiar with the project, so I don't even know how they handle translations
[13:18] <andrejz> There is Lubuntu project (Ubuntu + LXDE), which is trying to become official member of Ubuntu family
[13:19] <andrejz> it's especially suitable for older computers
[13:19] <andrejz> LXDE is done in transifex so import shouldn't be to difficult
[13:20] <andrejz> i was thinking if Lubuntu is to become official ubuntu distro, then translations will need to be handled in launchpad at some point, correct ?
[13:20] <dpm> yes, yes, I know what it is, but I don't know of which packages it is composed of, and whether they are in universe, multiverse, or if they will be promoted to main
[13:22] <andrejz> ok, i see
[14:03] <dpm> wohoo! The first Chromium translations from Launchpad have already landed in the upstream trunk! Good work everyone!
[14:03] <dpm> http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/third_party/launchpad_translations/
[14:07] <artnay> will they be available at daily chromium builds (ppa)? I'm using chromium 10.something
[14:07] <artnay> s/will/when/ ;-)
[14:08] <artnay> maybe separate packets, no?
[14:13] <andrejz> @artnay: i think they will be available if you have PPA installed
[14:19] <dpm> artnay, yeah, exactly. Have a look at the announcement for more detailed info
[14:37] <andrejz> @artnay: just make sure you have package chromium-browser-10n installed
[14:37] <andrejz> i didn't and then i waited and nothing happened ;)
[14:39] <dpm> I've just been discussing this with fta a couple of minutes ago. If any of you guys want to contribute, it might be a good idea to file a bug against the chromium-browser package in Ubuntu
[14:39] <dpm> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/543069/
[14:49] <dpm> andrejz, btw, the other day you were pointing me out to bug 672084 - I filed a bug upstream and it seems to be an Ubuntu-specific bug. In the upstream bug there is a link to an OMG Ubuntu article pointing to a bug in Ubuntu, but no actual bug has been filed, afaik. As you were interested, I thought you might want to be the one to file it ;)
[14:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 672084 in poedit (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "No menubar in Poedit (affects: 6) (heat: 137)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/672084
[14:51] <andrejz> well it seems to be working for me now, so apparently it has been fixed
[14:51] <andrejz> well i must check
[14:51] <andrejz> now i am behind my netbook with unity
[14:51] <andrejz> i must see whether it's the same in desktop edition
[14:54] <dpm> ah, ok :)
[14:55] <dpm> andrejz, are you using unity in natty or in maverick?
[14:55] <andrejz> maverick
[14:55] <andrejz> i wouldn't complaing if i was running alpha software ;)
[14:56] <andrejz> But it works OK in unity (10.10). Now i must just checked desktop edition (10.10). if both are OK, then the bug has been fixed
[15:28] <udienz> dpm: sorry, i'm so emotional. he says in Bahasa about insulting me and LoCo
[15:28] <udienz> i can't imagine it
[15:28] <udienz> apologize for my emotions
[15:29] <dpm> udienz, no worries :-) . I'd suggest even if discussions get heated to stay calm and show leadership by example
[15:30] <udienz> Thanks, this is my weakness :(. he still insult team by send "junk" email to ubuntu-l10n-id
[15:30] <udienz> i don't know what happen with him
[15:39] <dpm> Hey everyone, I'm doing a quick test while working on the translations portal. Whoever is around could just paste the translation in their language of the following text?
[15:39] <dpm> "Translate Ubuntu into your language"
[15:39] <dpm> Thanks!
[15:40] <henninge> dpm: do you need German? ;-)
[15:41] <dpm> henninge, yeah, I actually don't know if they use the "Sie" or "Du" form for Ubuntu translations, so if you are using it you can provide a more consistent translation than I ;)
[15:41] <henninge> German: "Übersetzen Sie Ubuntu in Ihre Sprache" or "Übersetze Ubuntu in deine Sprache"
[15:42] <henninge> dpm: I was just wondering the same ...
[15:42] <henninge> oh, "they", as in "German Ubuntu Translators"?
[15:42] <udienz> dpm: "Terjemahkan Ubuntu kedalam Bahasa Anda"
[15:42] <henninge> dpm: software is polite and uses "Sie" ;)
[15:43] <dpm> henninge, great, thanks :)
[15:43] <dpm> thanks udienz!
[15:45] <henninge> dpm: Esperanto: "Traduku Ubuntu en vian lingvon"
[15:45] <henninge> ;-)
[15:45] <dpm> great!