/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/13/#ubuntu-us-oh.txt

canthus13Yay exploding modems!00:14
paultagdmcglone: wb ;)02:12
Unit1931Hello paultag and dmcglone02:12
paultaghowdy Unit193102:13
dmcglonehowdy Unit19302:16
Unit1931dmcglone: Linux working better for you today?02:20
dmcgloneUnit1931 No comment... LOL02:34
dmcgloneI haven't used it much except to read, read and read more and more about Assange and wikileaks02:35
dmcglonelol02:35
dmcglonethis darn thing has got me so curious02:36
Unit1931I'm not really looking into that... (I'll not get into fights like you did :D)02:36
dmcgloneLOL I didn't get into a fight, they drug me into their debate. All I did was ask questions and I ended up under fire02:37
Unit1931That be what I'm talking about02:37
dmcgloneI don't care what Assange does. I just darn curious whats gonna happen02:37
dmcgloneI read a lot of wikileaks pages today and news articles and everything I can to get a grasp on what all this hype is about02:38
Unit1931This morning there was a comp that wouldn't boot so I used an old Feisty Kubuntu CD (mostly worked too)02:39
dmcglonedid it live up to the hype???? haha02:40
dmcglonekubuntu? Ubuntu? Hmmmm02:40
Unit1931I needed audacity on it.... so the thing wasn't recorded02:40
dmcgloneis  there a happy medium?02:40
dmcgloneaudacity is one awesome app02:41
Unit1931I have no idea... I sorta want Gnome.... but I want K3B and some others...02:41
Unit1931I really like the beta (audacity)02:42
dmcgloneI use k3b on my gnome02:42
dmcgloneand audacity is a gnome app anyway02:42
dmcgloneI also use Kontact and kate02:42
dmcgloneheck most of my apps are KDE, but I run Gnome desktop02:42
Unit1931Scite is kinda like N++ so I somtimes use that02:43
dmcgloneI haven't heard of Scite yet02:43
Unit1931It's not bad...02:44
Unit1931On the Lubuntu compy I have a small wine CallerID program on startup :)02:45
dmcglonedo you have to have caller ID on the phone activated?02:46
Unit1931Yes! or it would be useless02:46
dmcglonelol just making sure there wasn't some type of hack I was missing02:47
* canthus13 wonders what humans paultag hangs out with to consider that RSA post 'humanized'. :)02:47
dmcglonecanthus13: we are human remember :-)02:48
Unit1931dmcglone: I checked with a serial connection and the real number doesn't come in on private callers02:48
canthus13dmcglone: Did you read his RSA post?02:49
dmcgloneisn't that why they are private? LOL02:49
canthus13Unit1931: Talking to me?02:49
dmcgloneon his blog? yeah he showed it to me a few minutes ago02:49
Unit1931canthus13: Should I?02:49
canthus13I was the one talking about CID the other day.02:49
canthus13dmcglone: That thing made my eyeballs all twisty inside my head.02:50
dmcgloneLOL02:50
Unit1931canthus13: Have you ever been able to get CID without it activated? or get private #?02:50
dmcglonemade my asshole pucker.. ;-)02:50
canthus13Unit1931: I know the data is there.02:51
dmcgloneit's probably scrambled02:52
Unit1931Like eggs?02:52
canthus13Heh.02:52
canthus13The easiest way to get at blocked ID is to have it sent to an 800 number.  ANI takes care of the rest.02:53
dmcglonenow I'm hungary, thanks man02:53
dmcglonelol02:53
Unit1931So am I!02:53
dmcgloneI can't remember what ANI is02:54
deejoeauto number id02:54
canthus13Automagic Number Identification02:54
deejoeI think02:54
dmcgloneOh02:54
dmcgloneeggs anyone?02:54
dmcglone;-)02:54
Unit1931Too lazy to change irssi config at this time... using finch! (canthus13 screen is very cool)02:56
canthus13:)03:02
dmcglonecanthus13: what is mind boggling about paultags post?03:04
canthus13dmcglone: The whole thing. I suck at higher math.03:06
dmcgloneOh03:07
* canthus13 barely passed algebra 2.03:07
dmcgloneI took Electronics math, it's very similar to what he's got03:07
deejoethe modular stuff always throws03:08
deejoeme.03:08
dmcglonehow deejoe?03:08
dmcgloneis it the process it's done?03:09
deejoemostly the notation03:09
deejoeThe basic operation of modular division seems simple enough03:10
dmcgloneorder of operations03:10
deejoehuh?03:10
dmcgloneit's always parenthesis, multiplication, devision, addition subtraction03:10
deejoethat's not the part that hangs me03:11
canthus13dmcglone: you forgot exponent.03:11
dmcgloneoops03:12
canthus13heh.03:12
dmcglonemath isn't hard if you don't let it intimidate you03:13
Unit1931Did anyone seen the article on linuxjournal.com about Ubuntu going rolling release?03:19
Unit1931see03:19
canthus13no.03:21
Unit1931Bios would know tons more...03:22
Unit1931going is a bit strong (http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opensuse-and-ubuntu-rollercoasters)03:26
Cheri703there was some posting about that, but then it was denounced, dunno if it has since gained more credibility03:27
Cheri703also, I would suggest you guys take a minute and either read or watch this: http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-liberation-as-man-is-tied-to-your.html03:28
Cheri703it's really powerful03:28
Cheri703and not that I think you guys are uncivilized brutes ;) but it's still good03:28
Unit1931I'm always the last to know Linux stuff...03:28
Cheri703get some stuff in your google reader feed! if you don't have one, get one!03:29
dmcgloneUnit1931 probably because you to pay as much attention as some of us03:29
canthus13Cheri703: You don't?  We should try harder.03:29
Cheri703well, not as much as some of what is mentioned in that post03:29
* canthus13 tells his oldest to 'Man up' all the time.03:31
Unit1931dmcglone: I'm mostly just a user (I do use SSH and CLI am I special)03:31
canthus13To be fair, though< I'd prolly tell a girl to do the same. :)03:31
dmcgloneUnit1931 we are all special here :-)03:35
Unit1931I forgot the -> :D03:35
dmcglonewhy are you just a user Unit1931?03:37
Cheri703I hate that I have to check multiple sites/lists to get accurate info on school closings and snow emergencies :(03:38
deejoeYeah, Cheri703, that is a good link.03:38
Cheri703I'm a fan deejoe03:39
Unit1931dmcglone: I don't follow all that's going on in the Linux world, not a dev or anything like that03:39
dmcgloneI thought you were taking computer science with paultag03:39
canthus13I hate that Toledo Public waits 'til 20 minutes before school to cancel school.03:40
dmcglonethen start taking hour kids to school 21 minutes early... LOL03:40
dmcgloneyour kids that is03:40
Unit1931dmcglone: If you were talking to me, no I'm not with paultag03:41
dmcgloneI've already got confirmation my kids have a 2 hour delay tomorrow03:41
canthus13Uhh... you're kidding.  http://www.amazon.com/FarmVille-Dummies-Angela-Morales/dp/111801696303:41
dmcgloneOh I thought you 2 were room mates03:41
dmcglonethem "for dummies" books are "from dummies"03:42
Unit1931Never seen him in my life... maybe the other guy on here is who you are thinking of...03:42
dmcgloneyeah03:42
Cheri703mathay is paultag's roommate03:42
dmcglonethats it03:42
dmcgloneI've seen the "for dummys" books and any average joe can sit down and figure it out at the computer and write about it03:43
canthus13some of them are very good, actually.. The more technical ones in particular.03:44
dmcgloneit's like that dumb guy on tv selling CD's on how to use windows.03:44
deejoeI just hate the title.03:44
deejoe"for dummies"03:44
canthus13dmcglone: ...those CDs are desperately needed.03:45
dmcglonebecause they are for dummies, and we are not dummies... LOL03:45
canthus13dmcglone: Try talking a 90-year-old woman through locating the address bar sometime.  over the phone.03:45
deejoeyeah, I don't like the idea of *anyone* being called a dummy, least not someone who is trying to learn something.03:45
dmcglonecanthus13: he should be selling Ubuntu CD's and a book on how to "get rid of windows"03:45
dmcglonehuh, I agree canthus13  I've already been down a similar road03:46
dmcgloneI hate the ones that belive their "whole" dang computer is the internet03:47
canthus13Heh.03:47
canthus13I get people who blame *ME* when their computer doesn't turn on.03:47
dmcgloneI get people that blame me when their internet is down03:48
canthus13"It worked fine before I got your service!"  Never mind that they subscribed *6* years ago.03:48
deejoeheh03:48
deejoethat's 4 Moore's Law halflives03:48
canthus13dmcglone: My just recently deceased web server was older.03:49
dmcglonehere's a good one. People point to the tower and say thats my hard drive03:49
canthus13dmcglone: Or their modem.03:49
dmcgloneyeah03:49
canthus13or the ones that keep talking about their 'immodium'.03:49
canthus13I have a hard time getting to the mute button in time with those ones.03:50
dmcglonehaha03:50
deejoeheh03:50
Unit1931immodium = modem?03:50
canthus13Yep.03:50
canthus13I had a woman whose modem burst into smoke, sparks, and flames today....03:51
deejoewow03:51
canthus13She said "I think I need a new modem..."03:51
dmcglone"my hard drive is messed up, and I cant get on the internet"03:51
deejoecable modem, or dial-up?03:51
canthus13Cable.03:51
canthus13We replace modems at no chage as long as we provided them in the first place.03:51
Unit1931Did you get to see it?03:51
canthus13Nah.03:51
canthus13I took the call on the phone. she's got a tech scheduled to swap it out in the morning.03:52
Unit1931canthus13: You ever get people trying to uncap?03:54
canthus13Unit1931: Not in years. Too easy to catch.03:54
canthus13Last ones we caught got nailed with federal charges, landed 2 of the 4 in jail.03:55
Cheri703ooo, canthus13 I'm going to use you as the "readily available semi-relevant expert so I don't have to actually call my own company yet" person :D03:55
dmcgloneuncap as in increasing speeds?03:55
Unit1931dmcglone: yep03:55
canthus13Cheri703: Heh.03:55
Cheri703any reason my internet would just randomly cut out? probably 5-10 minutes at a time, sometimes less, just loses connection completely03:55
canthus13Lots.03:56
Cheri703any that TW could reasonably fix?03:56
dmcgloneCheri703: check your neighbors connection LOL03:56
canthus13Power levels way off. Early Docsis 2.0 modems that can't handle load-balanced channels.03:56
Unit1931Cheri703: what cable modem?03:56
Cheri703let me check, hang on03:56
canthus13Cheri703: Can you log into your modem and past the logs?03:56
canthus13*paste03:56
dmcgloneUh oh canthus13 you just opened a can of worms03:56
dmcglonelol03:56
canthus13Along with the main diagnostic page (The one with SNR and such.)03:57
canthus13Cheri703: are you sure it's your internet connection and not your router?03:57
Cheri703pretty sure, because my wireless stays connected, just don't get anything loading03:57
canthus13Oh. yeah. browse to 192.168.100.1.  that'll give you the brand of the modem.03:58
canthus13as well as possibly a diagnostic page.03:58
Cheri703husband is wired into router, and happens to him too03:58
Cheri703ok, hang on03:58
canthus13Router can drop even if you're wired.03:58
dmcgloneCheri703: on Ubuntu I've noticed the wireless icon will stay connected for a bit after losing internet connection03:58
Cheri703WebSTAR DPC2100R203:58
Cheri703ok03:58
canthus13Never heard of that one.03:58
Cheri703next time it happens I'll try to do something local03:59
Cheri703it says cisco on it03:59
canthus13Ah. Ok.03:59
Cheri703cisco and that same model number03:59
Cheri703the page says webstar03:59
Cheri703logs haven't been enabled >.<03:59
canthus13I've seen one or two... never dealt with one in the field, but the log entries should be usable.03:59
Cheri703This feature is not enabled.03:59
Cheri703This feature has not been enabled in your cable modem.03:59
Cheri703Please contact your data services provider for more information about this feature and its availability on the network.03:59
Cheri703To exit this page, click on the "Back" button on your browser tool bar to return to the previous page or click on the "System" link above.03:59
canthus13paste the signal info. (SNR, etc.  should have something about dbmv and such.)03:59
canthus13bah. why would they disable useful troubleshooting information??04:00
Cheri703everything other than the system page is disabled04:00
Unit1931Mine has logs....TWC04:00
Cheri703and that just has basic info04:00
Cheri703mine is twc as well04:00
canthus13Nothing about Power levels, SNR, etc?04:00
Cheri703Receive Power Level04:01
Cheri703 0.0 dBmV04:01
Cheri703Transmit Power Level04:01
Cheri703 47.5 dBmV04:01
Cheri703that just changed to 0.1 and 47.504:01
Cheri703*45.704:02
canthus13those are fine.04:02
Cheri703ok04:02
canthus13Although the Tx should be pretty constant.04:02
Cheri703ok04:02
canthus13Rcv should be between about -3 and 11, Tx between 38 and 5004:02
Cheri703kk04:02
Cheri703friend is suggesting to look for a timeout on the router, not sure where to look04:02
canthus13outside those ranges warrants investigation, waaay outside the ranges requires a service call.04:03
canthus13I don't know where you'd find 'em on a router.. The modem logs woud show T3 timeouts, which aren't any big deal, and T4 timeouts, which are an automatic service call in most cases.04:03
Cheri703ok04:03
Cheri703woo for logs being disabled then :(04:03
canthus13But next time it cuts out, see if you can reach 192.168.100.1, just to make sure you can get all the way through the router.04:04
Cheri703ok04:04
Cheri703will do, thanks :)04:04
canthus13no prob.04:04
dmcglonewell I'm outta here guys, gonna get me some rest.04:05
dmcgloneg'night04:05
Unit1931G'night dmcglone04:05
Cheri703night04:05
Unit1931SB510004:06
Cheri703?04:06
Unit1931Cable modem (no idea.....)04:06
Cheri703can I just take a moment to profess my love for ALDI chocolates?04:07
Unit1931Sure04:07
Unit1931:)04:07
Cheri703OMG TASTY!04:07
Cheri703and inexpensive04:07
Unit1931Some of the stuff ther are really good...04:08
Unit1931there is04:08
* Cheri703 is eating an austrian chocolate bar with hazelnuts, and it is amazing and it's a 100g (3.52 oz) bar and it was 99 cents04:08
Cheri703it's wonderful04:08
Unit1931nuts.... I hate all nuts... but I like hazelnut coffee!04:09
Cheri703there are few nuts I'm ok with, but hazelnuts are high on that list :)04:09
Unit1931SSH feels so wimpy in the other os.... :(04:10
Cheri703heh04:10
Unit1931ALL of church comps are win (and I have SSH on two of them)... (I'm temp/non temp switching one to linux :D )04:11
Unit1931Another dual boots04:12
Cheri703I'd suggest a vm, but they're likely not fast enough for that04:13
Unit1931One would be... STUPID V + Norton!!!!!04:13
Unit1931Cheri703: Did you see my comment about Feisty ^ above?04:15
Cheri703vaguely04:15
Cheri703sometimes going back to older versions is very handy for older computers04:15
Unit1931The comp wouldn't boot W (lsass.exe error) and the comp has been flaky for the past few months04:16
Unit1931So I had an old K CD over there just for this type of thing (installing Linux for the next few weeks)04:17
Cheri703nice04:17
Unit1931I'll also be gone next Sun (when the computer is used) good luck people!04:18
Cheri703heh04:18
Unit1931as I said, it's been very ify (alt shell, based on blackbox, for the past few months)04:20
Unit1931I couldn't remember the HTTP pass I set for a random router, as a long shot, I looked at the page source and found it....04:29
Cheri703nice04:29
Cheri703I have to go run the dogs out, I'll be back in a while04:29
Unit1931In one way it is... have fun!04:29
* Cheri703 is back, it's COLD04:59
canthus13A little.05:00
Cheri703and windy05:00
canthus13Heh. wind chill here is .8 degrees.05:01
Cheri703ridiculous05:01
Cheri703I'm supposed to leave my house at 8am and drive 2 hours to uhrichsville (near new philadelphia if that means anything to anyone), but I'm going to try to get out of it...or at least postpone it05:01
canthus13tomorrow's wind chill will get down to -9.05:01
* Cheri703 is religiously checking to see if they have a delay/cancellation there05:02
canthus13I hafta work no matter what. Since I'm telephone support, I qualify as 'emergency' personnel. :P05:02
Cheri703heh, nice05:02
* Cheri703 scratches that job of the list of potentials05:02
Cheri703one more reason companies should allow telecommuting in this area05:03
canthus13It's not so bad. roads are pretty well plowed here.05:03
canthus13And if it DOES get to a level 3 emergency, they'll let you off the hook if you can't make it.05:03
Cheri703since I drive a rear wheel drive pickup truck, I am personally drawing the line at level 205:04
Cheri703no way I'm going out in that. I'd like to not go out in a level one, I was out today and was slipping all over the place05:04
canthus13Heh. I used to drive a little rwd nissan pickup in all sorts of snow.  It was fun.05:04
Cheri703even with 300 lbs of sand in the back05:04
Cheri703this thing is a piece of crap05:04
Cheri703I hate it05:04
canthus13sand was annoying. it always slid to the front of the bed, annoyed the crap out of me.05:05
Cheri703I have a 2x10 propped up on the wheel wells, it keeps it from sliding :)05:05
Cheri703works pretty well05:05
canthus13Cool.05:06
* Unit1931 is back from doing the driveway05:11
Cheri703did you slip?05:11
Cheri703ooo, if you have a spare $15 or so, (other than what you spent on a processor :/ ) I have just the product for you05:12
Unit1931Not too badly...05:12
Unit1931What would that be? boots?05:12
Cheri703getting a link, one sec05:12
Cheri703http://www.amazon.com/Yaktrax-Walker-Traction-Cleats-Black/dp/B001CZJIPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292217176&sr=8-105:13
Cheri703they go over your shoes and give you traction. I have some, they're AWESOME05:14
Unit1931I would need the size L05:39
Unit1931They look nice! Good for sledding!05:40
Cheri703yeah, they're sweet05:40
Cheri703I have 2 pair, one for regular shoes, one for my gigantic honkin' boots05:40
Unit1931All of mine are big....05:41
Unit1931Think of our driveway in this snow/ice...and more to come....05:48
* BiosElement waves at folks who are up late >.>05:59
Cheri703yo BiosElement06:08
BiosElementHey there Cheri703, how's it going?06:08
Cheri703alright, and for you?06:09
BiosElementAhh, kinda having a hard time with my project but otherwise good hah.06:09
Cheri703anything a non-programmer could help with?06:10
BiosElementAhh ironically 80% of my work with the project is community work. Herding cats is an apt description.06:10
Cheri703ah, gotcha06:11
Cheri703if you ever need a hand, let me know...I have enough other crazy stuff going on, but sometimes a break dealing with other people's crazy stuff is good :)06:11
BiosElementWe hit a high point with new members joining daily, now that dies down and people are convinced the project's dying. >.>06:11
Cheri703people are dumb06:11
BiosElementWell in honesty, the problems could have been avoided if I'd had more experience with managing projects but ahh well, know better now.06:12
Cheri703eh, have to learn somehow06:12
BiosElementTrue.06:13
BiosElementOh yeah, and I have to stop laughing at stupid rules lists that have complete breakdowns on what's now allowed. :P06:14
BiosElementSince I just wrote one. >.>06:14
Cheri703heh06:14
Unit1931Is it going any better then before?06:16
BiosElementUnit1931, Honestly I'd say it's on the up. But that's just my opinion heh.06:16
Cheri703firefox keeps getting gigantic :( I'm annoyed with it.06:16
Cheri703I need sleeker firefox06:16
BiosElementMozilla's gonna die if they don't fall back to their roots. >.>06:16
Cheri703it was freezing up, and it was at 265MB of memory use06:17
BiosElementOuch06:17
Cheri703>.< with like 4 tabs open. I tend to leave firefox open for long periods of time, so it gets bigger and bigger, but I know I closed it earlier today06:17
Unit1931I don't have it installed in Lubu waaay too pigy (use midori)06:18
Unit1931Firefox: 572M >.<06:19
BiosElementChrome: 54M >.>06:20
Cheri703I used chrome for a little while, and the big things were good, but a lot of little things drove me back to ff06:21
BiosElementI can't stand ff anymore >.>06:21
Unit1931Two days and 40 running tabs...06:22
Cheri703I like having my tab options, I like having adblock working properly, I like my add-ons, etc06:22
Cheri703and some sites just hate chrome06:22
Cheri703well, chromium, that's what I was using06:22
BiosElementLike? >.>06:22
BiosElementIt's webkit06:22
BiosElementAny site that fails at webkit fail at life. Full stop. >.<06:22
Cheri703I don't remember06:22
Cheri703but some stuff wouldn't load properly06:22
Cheri703I had flash issues too06:22
BiosElementI've never understood why web devs don't rank Webkit higher then Gecko. :|06:23
BiosElementI mean really, webkit is just plain awesome.06:23
* BiosElement coughs06:23
Cheri703I don't really know the difference honestly06:32
Cheri703I'm off to bed, I'm supposed to be leaving my house in just under 6.5 hours -_-06:34
Unit193BiosElement: What do you think of the DjVu format?07:13
BiosElementUnit1931, I don't think anything of it, What is it? :P07:13
Unit193Kinda like PDF07:14
Unit193http://djvu.org/07:14
BiosElementSeems like it might be cool07:15
Unit193I have never seen a DjVu doc online anywhere (excluding their site)07:16
Cheri703I had one07:17
Cheri703at one point07:17
* Cheri703 should be asleep07:17
Cheri703let me see if I can find the site07:17
Unit193I was going to ask you if you were supposed to be in bed :)07:17
Cheri703I am in bed, just not tired at all07:18
Unit193You might be tomorrow07:19
Cheri703probably, but I think if I don't use the weather as an excuse to cancel/postpone that appointment, I'm going to use illness, because I still don't feel well at all07:20
Cheri703www.archive.org offers books in djvu (among others), this isn't the book I'd downloaded, but it's one: http://www.archive.org/details/littlewomenormeg00alcoiala07:21
Cheri703they have ereader formats now too07:21
Unit193I did see that on Wikipedia07:22
Unit1931Looking up Poe07:31
Cheri703OMG WHY AM I NOT TIRED!?!?!?08:20
Unit1931I have been there (Don't try hitting your head!)08:21
Cheri703I even went and ate, because sometimes weird blood sugar makes me weird and not tired, but...nope, nothing08:21
Unit1931Board and not tired?08:21
Cheri703indeed.08:22
Unit1931Ever been tired, board and you still can't get to sleep?08:26
Cheri703oh yes, often08:26
Unit1931I'm really liking finch... (but I still love Pidgin)08:28
Cheri703I might check it out08:28
Unit1931When/if you join a chat use /users08:29
Unit1931Error 404: Time not found09:05
Cheri703?09:06
Unit1931Couldn't help it (The time was 4:04AM)09:07
Cheri703gotcha :)09:07
Unit1931I have stuff sent out at 4:04 everyday09:08
Cheri703I'm being moderately productive, printing out business cards that I need, and attempting to get my stupid hp printer that I hate to work as a share from ubu to xp09:08
Cheri703the driver is dumb09:08
Cheri703yeah?09:08
Unit1931I don't think I have issues with our HP... I not being productive at all09:10
Cheri703when do you go to school?09:10
Unit1931I'm homeschooled (don't have to get up too early)09:11
Cheri703ah, I thought that might be the case09:11
Unit1931My sisters turned out a bit better...09:12
Cheri703heh09:12
Cheri703sometimes I wonder what the lurkers think when they read their scrollback...09:14
Unit1931I try not to think of that or that's this is logged....09:15
Cheri703heh, yah09:15
Cheri703*yeah09:15
Unit1931"Who are the two crazy people at that time of night?"09:17
Cheri703yeah09:18
Cheri703you have the advantage of anonymity though, some of them have met me in person :)09:18
Unit1931No others in this area, right?09:20
Cheri703nope09:20
Unit1931I really should have gone to sleep hours ago... (how are the other U-Hours?)09:22
Cheri703they're a bit better attended09:22
Unit1931This one is much newer09:23
Cheri703true09:23
Cheri703and a much smaller area09:23
Cheri703I do think you could hang out at panera and catch that one guy if he goes :) I'm going to try to get in touch with him to say I'm not going to be there this week09:23
Unit1931I can't go. Only U-Hour I have gone to so I don't know how the Akron one is like09:27
Cheri703ok09:27
Cheri703yeah, I only went to the one in cbus09:27
Unit193130th may work, I know a person that can't go to any before Jan09:31
Cheri703ok09:36
Unit1931I'm out!!09:43
Cheri703night09:43
Unit1931Morning09:44
Cheri703semantics09:44
Unit1931Morning does not come before 7am09:44
canthus13haha! "Every time the link light on my modem stops blinking, my computer turns itself off!"18:44
Unit1931What in the world?18:50
Unit1931Get a ton of funny work calls?18:52
BiosElementAweosme...19:15
BiosElementLinux Foundation sends all their outgoing emails through their spamassassin filter...and it gives their OWN e-mails a 92% chance of being spam19:16
BiosElementHint: It is.19:16
canthus13Yep. I get plenty of oddball calls.19:17
Unit1931canthus13: do you try to get people not to enable remote management on their router?19:57
canthus13Unit1931: We don't care. But if they get hacked, that's their problem. we just shut 'em off if we get botnet complaints.20:02

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