[08:19] <magespawn> does anybody know what time the meeting is tonight?
[08:21] <maiatoday> magespawn: 19h30
[08:22] <maiatoday> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20101213
[08:30] <superfly> ohi everyone
[09:06] <magespawn> thanks maiatoday i just got two different times
[09:16] <maiatoday> really? magespawn where did you get the other times. We need to change them so that people don't get confused
[09:16] <maiatoday> It used to be 19h00 but that was too early for some people
[09:41] <magespawn> on the email i got there is a little link at the top "more details>>" which takes you to this page https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=b3E2N2MxNXBiNjdtN2dxNjRtbnZkb2Q5bDggdjNsanBjaWVwY25jbWprbDJ0c29hbzcyOTBAZw
[12:09] <morgs> Hmm, I'm not able to resolve za.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <morgs> on google public dns
[12:13] <tumbleweed> morgs: #ubuntu-mirrors
[12:28] <nlsthzn> meeting tonight @ 19H00 GMT+2 again?
[12:29] <cocooncrash> tumbleweed, morgs: Not an ubuntu problem
[12:29] <cocooncrash> za.archive.ubuntu.com.  600     IN      CNAME   ubuntu-archive.mirror.ac.za.
[12:29] <cocooncrash> $ host ubuntu-archive.mirror.ac.za
[12:29] <cocooncrash> Host ubuntu-archive.mirror.ac.za not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[12:29] <morgs> Symm<tab><tab>
[12:30] <tumbleweed> hehe: http://monitor.net.tenet.ac.za/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=3&leaf_id=94
[12:30]  * tumbleweed is glad he stayed home today
[12:30] <tumbleweed> also, ICTS don't seem aware, because thye've been phoning me wondering why I'm not getting e-mail from them
[12:30] <cocooncrash> LOL
[12:31] <maiatoday> wow, what's happening, I thought the students were all gone by now?
[12:32] <tumbleweed> maiatoday: seacom link down by the look of it http://monitor.net.tenet.ac.za/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=6&leaf_id=874
[12:32] <tumbleweed> yeah, undergrads are gone, this is when we (are supposed to) get work done
[12:34] <cocooncrash> haha lol.
[12:51]  * nlsthzn feels neglected :( (sorry for spamming the mailing list... was a noob thing to do I know)
[13:00] <Vhata> did you get a hundred referral signups and gigabytes of free space?
[13:01] <nlsthzn> Vhata: No... which I deserve I guess... sorry about that
[15:25] <nlsthzn> question about the meeting tonight... can I be considered a member or not? I am not in SA and can't join in on any actual meetings etc?
[15:59] <nlsthzn> question about the meeting tonight... can I be considered a member or not? I am not in SA and can't join in on any actual meetings etc?
[16:03] <superfly> nlsthzn: you're welcome to join the meeting
[16:04] <nlsthzn> superfly: thx, but can a participate as a member or just lurk?
[16:05] <superfly> nlsthzn: are you a member of ubuntu-za on launchpad.net?
[16:06] <nlsthzn> superfly: Not sure... I signed up for the mail-list... been a while since I have logged into launchpad... let me go and poke around...
[16:08] <nlsthzn> Neil Oosthuizen is not an active member of any Launchpad teams. 
[16:08] <nlsthzn> hmmm
[16:09] <nlsthzn> I am now a MEMBER!!!!
[16:09]  * nlsthzn is the latest member of ubuntu-za team on launchpad
[16:11] <Kilos> evening all
[16:12] <nlsthzn> Kilos: Hey uncle
[16:12] <Kilos> hi nl howzit
[16:13] <Kilos> sorry
[16:13] <Kilos> nlsthzn, 
[16:13] <Kilos> missed the tab
[16:13] <nlsthzn> all cool... just joined the ubuntu-za team on launchpad... so maybe I can spam the meeting tonight ;)
[16:13] <Kilos> lol
[16:14] <Kilos> i wont be here. saving last bit of data.
[16:14] <Kilos> tell all i sent greetings
[16:14] <nlsthzn> Kilos: understandable
[16:14] <nlsthzn> k
[16:14] <Kilos> ty
[16:15] <nlsthzn> np
[16:17] <Kilos> have a good meeting. will pop in tomorrow again
[16:20] <nlsthzn> will be back in time for the meeting *eg*
[16:58]  * nlsthzn thinks the lack of activity in this channel is disturbing
[17:01] <nlsthzn> doh, I see the time has changed... still half hour to go
[17:25] <nuvolari> awesome http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple_linux_gaming&num=1 (Linux Can Deliver A Faster Gaming Experience Than Mac OS X)
[17:26] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: I take everything from phoronix with a pinch of salt... 
[17:26] <maiatoday> Maaz 
[17:27]  * nlsthzn has joined ubuntu-za on launchpad... may I partake as a member tonight?
[17:28] <maiatoday> hehe for sure nlsthzn 
[17:28] <maiatoday> I saw you joined, welcome
[17:28] <nlsthzn> maiatoday: thanks, and thanks :D
[17:31] <superfly> Meeting time?
[17:31] <maiatoday> yes
[17:31]  * superfly is on his phone this time
[17:32] <maiatoday> I am ready I'll take the chair again unless anyone else wants a go at chasing geeks into a herd
[17:32] <maiatoday> np superfly
[17:32] <nlsthzn> Kilos sends his regards, not enough data to make it btw
[17:33] <maiatoday> I'll give it a few minutes the agend is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20101213
[17:33] <superfly> maiatoday: i have a full keyboard at my disposal, but I also have a toddler climbing on me ;-)
[17:34] <magespawn> evening all
[17:34] <maiatoday> hehe we will excuse random ascii bubbles and bits of food
[17:34] <maiatoday> hi magespawn 
[17:34] <nlsthzn> hi all :)
[17:34] <DraZoro> Hellow magaspawn
[17:34] <maiatoday> get agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20101213
[17:35] <maiatoday> drubin, tumbleweed I'll chair this one cause it's easy :)
[17:35]  * nlsthzn studies maiatodays technique to copy it later when needed :)
[17:36]  * maiatoday blushes and twiddles a pencil nervously
[17:37] <maiatoday> Maaz_: start meeting about ubuntu-za monthly meeting
[17:37]  * Maaz_ gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:37] <maiatoday> Maaz_: I am Maia Grotepass
[17:37] <Maaz_> maiatoday: Alrighty
[17:37] <nlsthzn> I am Neil Oosthuizen
[17:37] <maiatoday> new people please tell Maaz_ who you are
[17:37] <nlsthzn> Maaz_: I am Neil Oosthuizen
[17:37] <Maaz_> nlsthzn: Okay
[17:37] <nlsthzn> soz
[17:37] <tumbleweed> Maaz_: I am Stefano Rivera
[17:37] <Maaz_> tumbleweed: Done
[17:38] <smorar> Maaz_: I am Sameer Morar
[17:38] <Maaz_> smorar: Done
[17:38] <DraZoro> Maaz_: I am Clement Mahlangu 
[17:38] <Maaz_> DraZoro: Alrighty
[17:38] <magespawn> Maaz_ : I am Greg Eames
[17:38] <Maaz_> magespawn: Okay
[17:38] <maiatoday> the Agenda and minutes again https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20101213
[17:39] <drubin> Maaz_: I am David Rubin
[17:39] <Maaz_> drubin: Okay
[17:39] <maiatoday> Welcome all new people, anybody want to introduce themselves?
[17:39] <nlsthzn> just for the record Kilos sends his regards but his data is a bit low
[17:39] <nlsthzn> Neil from the UAE *waves*
[17:40] <maiatoday> Maaz_: topic review previous meeting minutes
[17:40] <Maaz_> Current Topic: review previous meeting minutes
[17:40] <maiatoday> drubin, did the backup and restore happen?
[17:41] <confluency> Maaz_: I am Adrianna Pińska
[17:41] <Maaz_> confluency: Yessir
[17:41] <smorar> Hello everyone - this is my first ubuntu-za meeting :)
[17:41] <maiatoday> most welcome smorar 
[17:41] <DraZoro> smorar : You are welcome ...enjoy :)
[17:41] <smorar> thanks :)
[17:42]  * nlsthzn has lurked in a meeting once before, but is a member now!
[17:42] <maiatoday> superfly is that little event thing on the side of ubuntu-za.org the gcal plugin?
[17:42] <superfly> Maaz_: I am Raoul Snyman
[17:42] <Maaz_> superfly: Sure
[17:42] <superfly> maiatoday yes
[17:43] <maiatoday> cool! Thanks that's great now I must just make sure I don't post weird events on the calendar hehe
[17:43] <superfly> Maiatoday and drubin's backup and restore did happen, iirc
[17:43] <maiatoday> yay we are so efficient, thanks superfly and drubin
[17:44] <maiatoday> we didn't discuss the OpenOffice in schools on the mailing list.
[17:44] <nlsthzn> ... and now school is closed
[17:45] <magespawn> get in for the new year
[17:45] <maiatoday> do we need make a note to do something?
[17:45] <drubin> smorar: shout if you have any questions
[17:45] <smorar> drubin: will do
[17:45] <drubin> maiatoday: we should make a note
[17:45] <drubin> sorry been a bit distracted adn typing is hard
[17:46] <maiatoday> Maaz_: agreed make a discussion on the Mailing list about OpenOffice in schools
[17:46] <Maaz_> Agreed: make a discussion on the Mailing list about OpenOffice in schools
[17:46] <magespawn> may i put something up?
[17:46] <maiatoday> go ahead magespawn 
[17:47] <maiatoday> ok the geeknic happened
[17:47] <maiatoday> it was small but fun
[17:47] <maiatoday> very relaxing
[17:48] <maiatoday> I made the link to the facebook group on ubuntu-za.org so that item is done too
[17:48] <nuvolari> great :/ I missed out on the first part of the meeting :P
[17:48] <nuvolari> Maaz_: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:48] <Maaz_> nuvolari: Sure
[17:48] <maiatoday> there will be minutes and archives nuvolari 
[17:48] <nuvolari> cool thanks maiatoday
[17:49] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: welcome :)
[17:49] <maiatoday> any comments on fanpage vs group on facebook?
[17:49] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: thanks :>
[17:49] <nuvolari> I vote for fanpage
[17:49]  * nlsthzn thinks facebook is evil and wishes diaspora will hurry up!
[17:49] <superfly> Maiatoday we raised it previously
[17:49] <nuvolari> we do most of the "group" management in other ways
[17:50] <maiatoday> yes I am going through the previous minutes
[17:50] <DraZoro> I vote for fanpage as well. 
[17:50] <smorar> I vote for fanpage too
[17:50] <superfly> A group doesn't actually work that well, but a fan page is stuck to one particular person, and you have to ask FB to fix it
[17:50] <nlsthzn> the minustes seem a bit inconplete (as far as I can see)
[17:51] <maiatoday> ok well I am not going to do more facebook maintence than what we currently do, if anyone wants to change this and has experience they are welcome to help out with this
[17:51] <nlsthzn> *minutes *incomplete
[17:51] <superfly> But yes, a fan page is much better
[17:51] <superfly> Maiatoday i can create a page
[17:51] <maiatoday> great!
[17:52] <maiatoday> Maaz_: Agreed superfly will make a fanpage for ubuntu-za
[17:52] <Maaz_> Agreed: superfly will make a fanpage for ubuntu-za
[17:52] <superfly> (when I have Internet again)
[17:52]  * DraZoro hopes magespawn will re-spawn once again 
[17:52] <maiatoday> we are having the meeting so I skip over that item
[17:53] <maiatoday> Also I did take the cds to Pretoria and Jo'burg and handed them out at the Ubuntu Hour and at Wits
[17:53] <magespawn> sorry all i am on gprs in a storm
[17:53] <maiatoday> drubin, did we get some cds to cape town?
[17:54]  * DraZoro should distribute in UNISA as well. 
[17:54] <drubin> maiatoday: a few not that many
[17:54] <nuvolari> oh dear :'( my 1/! key is on its way out
[17:54] <maiatoday> drubin can people contact you for cds?
[17:54] <drubin> but last one they got 2 boxes
[17:54] <drubin> maiatoday: I have a few yes
[17:55] <nlsthzn> as an official loco, how many CD's of a release do you (we) get?
[17:55] <maiatoday> yikes dunno? drubin ^
[17:56] <maiatoday> are we ready to move onto the agend?
[17:56] <maiatoday> agenda?
[17:56] <superfly> Ya
[17:56] <DraZoro> Yes
[17:56] <nlsthzn> seems so :)
[17:56] <maiatoday> we already talked about the backup, is there anything that needs to be added?
[17:57] <drubin> nlsthzn: +- 300
[17:57]  * drubin is really out of it
[17:57] <nlsthzn> drubin: thanks (good to know)
[17:57] <maiatoday> ok we already talked about the geeknic too :D any comments?
[17:57] <maiatoday> next time I'll try to pick a time when there are more people available
[17:57] <superfly> :( i couldn't make it 
[17:58] <maiatoday> next time I'll try to pick a time when there are less bugs bugging people too
[17:58] <nlsthzn> what was the main issue, the time or the venue?
[17:58] <maiatoday> I think the time, becaue the students had left already
[17:58] <superfly> Ya
[17:58] <maiatoday> and people were sick
[17:59] <nlsthzn> sucks
[17:59] <maiatoday> Ok Ubuntu Hour in Durban!!! fantastic
[18:00] <nuvolari> :D
[18:00] <nlsthzn> congrats on the first one!
[18:00] <nlsthzn> lekka by die see
[18:00] <nuvolari> whoop! it was fun
[18:00] <nuvolari> well, not right by the sea
[18:00] <nlsthzn> should have been in the sea :)
[18:00]  * drubin thinks we should wrap up
[18:00] <drubin> considering there aren't any agenda items left
[18:00] <maiatoday> it is the last item drubin
[18:00] <drubin> woohoo
[18:00] <maiatoday> I wanted to say thanks to the ubuntu hour durban people and wrap up
[18:00] <drubin> congrsats guys
[18:00] <superfly> i saw some activity about it on the list today but didn't have a chance to read - was there feedback?
[18:01] <maiatoday> one post
[18:01] <nuvolari> and on the mailing list
[18:01] <nlsthzn> no pics? :(
[18:01] <maiatoday> it would be great to have some pics and a blog post next time too
[18:01] <nuvolari> one reply :P
[18:01] <nuvolari> no :/ was a bit dark for my flash-less android
[18:01]  * nlsthzn thinks Durbanites are to laid back to worry about suck things
[18:01] <nuvolari> we plan to not have one venue
[18:02] <nuvolari> but rather to go places
[18:02] <maiatoday> ok anybody who wants to do an Ubuntu Hour just ask us and we;ll help you with getting all the posts in various spots sorted
[18:02] <nuvolari> as we're kinda scattered over a large area
[18:02] <nlsthzn> seems a decent stratagy
[18:02] <nuvolari> William shared his apt-mirrors
[18:03] <nuvolari> like 60Gb's repos
[18:03] <maiatoday> ok I am gonna end the meeting, going going ....
[18:03] <nlsthzn> when the next one?
[18:03] <maiatoday> gone
[18:03] <nuvolari> ok fine
[18:03] <smorar> :)
[18:03]  * nuvolari sits in the corner
[18:03] <maiatoday> Maaz_: end meeting
[18:03] <Maaz_> Meeting Ended
[18:03] <Maaz_> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2010-12-13-17-37-01.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2010-12-13-17-37-01.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2010-12-13-17-37-01.html
[18:03] <maiatoday> The next meeting will be in Jan, 
[18:03] <nlsthzn> lol... you guys in a hurry :)
[18:04] <nlsthzn> its a Monday, nothing good on TV
[18:04] <maiatoday> nah we can chat, I just hate meetings that carry on for ever
[18:04] <superfly> Maiatoday likes to keep things short and sweet
[18:04] <nuvolari> ya, durban isn't important enough :P
[18:04] <Morganvd> haha
[18:04] <nlsthzn> np, thanks for the meeting guys
[18:04] <maiatoday> no sorry nuvolari I didn't mean it that way
[18:04] <Morganvd> maiatoday: what if someone wanted to say something
[18:04] <nlsthzn> if the peeps in the UAE wants to go official I will have some idea what to do, expect
[18:04]  * Morganvd hides
[18:04] <nuvolari> pfft, whatever you say oh queen bee :P
[18:04] <tumbleweed> wow, that was quick and easy
[18:05]  * tumbleweed didn't even have to say anything :)
[18:05] <nuvolari> Maaz_: ping
[18:05] <Maaz_> nuvolari: pong
[18:06] <nlsthzn> tumbleweed: you used the power of your mind
[18:06] <Morganvd> quick question fo rthe gnome users
[18:06] <maiatoday> Morganvd: I am not going to stop anyone from saying anything
[18:06] <Morganvd> its was a joke maiatoday 
[18:06] <Morganvd> chillax
[18:07] <Morganvd> what does everyone think about 11.04 desktop goin unity?
[18:07] <nlsthzn> gr8, vbox needs me to add myself to its group then log back in... so I guess I will be back in a few...
[18:07] <maiatoday> hmmm unity on my netbook is sort of sluggish
[18:09] <nuvolari> OT: anyone flying R/C heli's? Need to find out about transmitters capable of connecting to flight simulator software
[18:09] <smorar> Morganvd: I love the unity concept - so assuming that performance and usability issues are mostly sorted, i'll be happy :)
[18:10] <smorar> Morganvd: i have maverick builds for the compiz version of unity a ppa if you're interested in giving it a poke without upgrading yet
[18:11] <nlsthzn> I just wonder if unity is going to be mature enough come 11.04
[18:12] <Morganvd> well it seems its in no matter what
[18:12] <Morganvd> i use it on my netbook
[18:12] <maiatoday> okedoke, minutes updated here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20101213
[18:12] <Morganvd> and must say i loved the 10.04 version alot more than the 10.10
[18:12] <nlsthzn> tried unity on my netbook... just to slow...
[18:12]  * tumbleweed tried unity, it irritates me
[18:13] <tumbleweed> (and it's not slow on my laptop)
[18:13] <maiatoday> somethings are better with unity like the desktops but it is sticky
[18:13] <maiatoday> and I haven't found the magic key to jump to the workspaces view
[18:13] <Morganvd> windows key e
[18:14] <Morganvd> super e
[18:14] <maiatoday> no
[18:14] <maiatoday> doesn't work for me
[18:14] <Morganvd> yip
[18:14] <maiatoday> the super key makes numbers appear on the icons but e does nothing
[18:14] <Morganvd> i c 10.10 changed it
[18:14] <Morganvd> yeah 
[18:14] <Morganvd> super + number = app
[18:15] <maiatoday> and the purple workspace icon doesn't have a number :(
[18:15] <maiatoday> and there are only 10 numbers
[18:15] <Morganvd> mine  is super 8
[18:15] <Morganvd> for workspac
[18:16] <Morganvd> you can also install gnome-panel
[18:16] <Morganvd> maiatoday: what netbook do you have
[18:16] <maiatoday> samsung nc10
[18:16] <Morganvd> i have a hp mini 210
[18:17] <Morganvd> ram?
[18:17] <maiatoday> 1 gig I though?
[18:17] <maiatoday> though?
[18:17] <maiatoday> bleargh s/though/thought/
[18:17] <Morganvd> i have 2 gig ddr3 ram
[18:17] <Morganvd> and must say it aint slugis
[18:19] <maiatoday> well I guess if I just surf and irc and such it is ok
[18:20] <maiatoday> hmmm just looking at the hw info of this machine and maybe I must get another gig of ram for xmas 
[18:21] <Morganvd> hehe
[18:21] <Morganvd> i bought my wife the HP for her B day
[18:21] <Morganvd> she uses it for work
[18:21] <Morganvd> she unfortunatly is a windows baby
[18:32] <maiatoday> night all