/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/14/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

kristian-aalborgdeejoe: I managed to bork it :/00:11
kristian-aalborgran gparted from a livecd... it resized the ext4 okay, then gave an error00:12
holsteinwhats the error?00:12
kristian-aalborghi holstein00:12
holsteino?00:12
holsteino/00:12
holstein*00:12
holsteinhey :)00:12
kristian-aalborgit was after it had done the resizing the error came... I don't remember, tbh00:13
kristian-aalborgalso:           \m/00:13
nit-witkristian-aalborg, did you have the swap off00:14
kristian-aalborgyes00:14
kristian-aalborgso, I could not boot.... it said I have to run fsck manually.... so I boot in failsafe, and skips the mounting of /home (the broken partition)00:14
nit-witkristian-aalborg, everything was unmounted?00:14
kristian-aalborgit should be... getting doubts now, though00:15
kristian-aalborgbut, now I booted to failsafe... and I can't run fsck00:15
kristian-aalborgI can run it, but I get a huge warning00:16
nit-witkristian-aalborg, from the live cd everything unmounted sudo fsck /dev/(partition needingfsck)00:17
kristian-aalborghi again00:31
kristian-aalborgthe livecd does not have fsck :(00:31
kristian-aalborghowever, I'm on it now - gparted says "unknown" for the faulty partition00:31
nit-witkristian-aalborg, you could try testdisk what was there can you loose it?00:33
kristian-aalborgit was /homw00:33
kristian-aalborg... /home, of course00:34
nit-witkristian-aalborg, you can't run a fsck on a unallocated00:34
kristian-aalborgthat's the weird thing - it's just "unknown"00:35
kristian-aalborgshould I just delete it?00:36
nit-witkristian-aalborg, I know unallocated unknow? where00:36
kristian-aalborgsorry?00:37
nit-witkristian-aalborg, where does it say unknown00:37
kristian-aalborggparted00:37
kristian-aalborg/dev/hda600:37
kristian-aalborgthe partiotion I shrunk00:38
nit-witkristian-aalborg, so it says in the partition line unknown as well as in the gparted window00:38
kristian-aalborgyes, I guess so00:38
nit-witkristian-aalborg, I guess the question is can you just afford to reinstall the whole OS are you backed up with what you would want to save movies,media..etc00:40
holsteinwhenever im about to do some crazy partitioning00:41
holsteini try and set the scenario up in virtualbox00:41
holsteinto test00:41
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: I can if I don't have a choice I guess00:41
holsteinand learn how to do it00:41
holsteinmake sure it'll work00:41
kristian-aalborgholstein: trial and error beats your method00:42
kristian-aalborg;)00:42
holsteintrial and what?00:42
holsteinOH... error... ;)00:42
* holstein is a look before you leap kinda guy00:42
holsteinbut i say your not doing it right til you break everything and have to reinstall a couple times00:43
kristian-aalborgI guess this could've happened anyway00:43
kristian-aalborgI guess I could save my /bin an /sbin?00:44
nit-witkristian-aalborg, there is a program called testdisk you run from the live cd that is a recovery tool I can't really help you in using it, but some find some success to varying levels and the amount of time it takes. It would probably confuse many as it is a muti tool device. here is a link yu would install it with the live cd from synaptic. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk00:45
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: the problem is that my cd drive does not like cdroms over 30 gigs or so00:45
kristian-aalborg30 megs, of course00:45
nit-witkristian-aalborg, not sure what you mean there00:45
kristian-aalborgit's borked ;)00:46
nit-witkristian-aalborg, your booted on a live cd right00:46
kristian-aalborgslitaz livecd... 30 meg00:46
kristian-aalborgI got ubuntu on it via netinstall... mini.iso00:47
nit-witkristian-aalborg, oh I see well can you boot a thumb00:47
kristian-aalborgnope00:47
kristian-aalborgit's a ThinkPad 770... not much fanciness going on00:47
nit-witkristian-aalborg, well with all the limitations it sounds like a new computer or new install. use a external HD to save your stuff to00:48
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: I bought this computer just to play with, so no need for another - I have a decent one already for everyday use :)00:49
mooseBoyHey00:57
mooseBoyWhy would a shell script give the error "line 7: =: command not found"00:57
Bizurkebecause the command on line 7 is not found00:58
Bizurkeprobably an out of place tick or semicolon or something00:59
mooseBoyThe command exists though, here's that line: $OUTPUT = '/usr/local/bin/base64 -e encrypted';;00:59
mooseBoyand I know the base64 works00:59
Bizurkehmm00:59
mooseBoythat's inside a case statement too01:00
aveilleuxmooseBoy: What interpreter is being used?01:05
mooseBoyum...idk...how do I tell01:06
mooseBoyI actually found a way around it though01:06
mooseBoybut I have another question01:06
aveilleuxmooseBoy: The first line is #!/bin/SOMETHING01:07
aveilleuxmooseBoy: That SOMETHING is the interpreter01:07
mooseBoyummm...i don't have that first line...is that a bad thing01:07
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Are you told to run the script with a command? like "sh script.sh"?01:08
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Or "python script.py"?01:08
mooseBoyI was trying to run it with a ./script01:08
mooseBoybut im not exactly sure what i'm doing01:08
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Um, shell scripts can't be run without a shabang (#!) line01:11
aveilleuxto my knowledge01:11
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Where did you get the script from?01:11
mooseBoyI didn't. I was trying to make my own01:11
aveilleuxmooseBoy: What language is it in>01:12
aveilleux?*01:12
mooseBoyum just terminal commands01:13
mooseBoylike echo and stuff01:13
mooseBoyI think I should have this at the top #!/bin/bash01:13
mooseBoyThat's what I found online01:14
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Yes, it should. Also, shell scripts don't have semicolons at the end of a line.01:14
mooseBoyokay01:14
mooseBoyI think I got it01:14
mooseBoyanother question, how do I echo the output of a command01:14
mooseBoylike echo whoami without it printing "whoami" out01:15
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Just don't put a redirect at the end of a line?01:15
aveilleuxmooseBoy: It shouldn't echo the commands.01:15
mooseBoyo.O01:15
mooseBoyi'm confused. Sorry, I'm really really new at this01:15
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Unless you specify it, BASH will not echo the commands out.01:16
mooseBoyokay, so how do I make it do that01:16
mooseBoymaybe I should read through the man page01:17
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Wait, you WANT it to do that>01:17
aveilleux?*01:17
mooseBoyI want it to say: "root" when i run "echo whoami"01:18
aveilleuxmooseBoy: You souldn't be using echo.01:18
mooseBoyokay, so how else to I output01:18
mooseBoy*do01:18
aveilleuxmooseBoy: Just... run the command.01:18
aveilleuxmooseBoy: A shell script is a series of console commands, nothing special01:19
mooseBoyOh wow, I feel dumb now01:19
mooseBoyhaha it works though :D01:19
mooseBoythanks for the help though01:23
yofelmooseBoy: if you want to write more scripts http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is a good read01:24
fatharrahman__hi yofel01:33
fatharrahman__yofel :am making ssh just for learning I made Openssh in Desktop and sysv-rc-conf too and I am opening a book which told me to write in the prompt ssh 192.....and prompt asked for password and I write a password but no connection yet can you teach me why?01:40
yofelok, back to step 101:41
yofelyou installed openssh-server on your desktop?01:41
fatharrahman__there is something rong or missing I can not01:41
fatharrahman__see this01:41
fatharrahman__http://paste.ubuntu.com/543382/01:42
yofelforget sysv-rc-conf for now, you don't need that01:43
yofelfatharrahman__: you username is the same on 192.186.1.2 ?01:43
fatharrahman__from line 4201:43
fatharrahman__sorry01:43
fatharrahman__no01:43
yofelline 44 sounds right, but you're trying to login as user fatharrahman on 192.168.1.201:44
fatharrahman__192.168.1.2 is the desk top which I want to connect to01:44
fatharrahman__yes01:44
yofelwhat's your user name on .2 ?01:44
fatharrahman__fatherrahman is the laptop host name01:45
fatharrahman__fadul01:45
yofelfatharrahman is also you *current* username, which is what ssh will use by default as remove username01:45
yofelso to connect you'll use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2'01:46
fatharrahman__why fadul is where I want to connect to01:46
fatharrahman__from fatharrahman to fadul01:46
yofelfatharrahman__: as long as you didn't edit hosts, ssh *doesn't* know any host names, so forget those01:47
yofelso ssh sees 'fadul' as '192.168.1.2'01:47
yofeland if you give it 'fadul' it'll think: "err... what's that?"01:47
fatharrahman__yes01:47
yofelfatharrahman__: ok, then what is your USER name on fadul01:48
fatharrahman__fadul is the user name of the desktop01:48
yofelfatharrahman__: good, then you'll have to tell it to login to user fadul on your desktop, the syntax is 'ssh <username>@<host>', so use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2'01:49
JoeSomebodyanyone - i install 2 new themes, they look ok and say installed, but when i go to pick them in ubuntu appearance and they are not there to pick, go to reinstall, and it says they are there, can someone help? when i try to reinstall it says something like cannot copy over folder01:50
fatharrahman__am I rong?01:50
fatharrahman__username @ host?01:50
JoeSomebodyusing 10.1001:50
yofelfatharrahman__: with what? 'ssh 192.168.1.2' is the same as 'ssh fatharrahman@192.168.1.2' and if your desktop doesn't have a user fatharrahman it'll fail01:51
yofelso you need to tell it which username to use01:51
holsteinJoeSomebody: might have to sudo move the theme01:51
holsteinwherever its suppose to go01:51
holsteindepends on the error?01:51
fatharrahman__am confused yofel01:51
holsteinwhy does it say 'cannot copy' JoeSomebody ?01:52
yofelfatharrahman__: what happens if you run: ssh fadul@192.168.1.201:52
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: They are not installed as theme sets, but the individual elements are available under "customize"01:52
fatharrahman__but am running it in fatharrahman and not fadul01:52
holsteinaveilleux: totally ;)01:52
yofelfatharrahman__: ssh needs to know the username on your *desktop*01:53
JoeSomebodynot sure i follow , why is that?01:53
holsteinthey are not complete theme sets01:53
fatharrahman__the username of the laptop is fatharrahman how should I change it?01:53
yofelfatharrahman__: it's like it goes to your desktop asks: is there a user fatharrahman? answer: no, and it doesn't know what to do01:53
yofelfatharrahman__: so you need to tell it to ask for user fadul01:53
yofelfatharrahman__: well, please run 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2' and tell me what happens01:54
yofelfatharrahman__: you shouldn't change any username, you just need to tell ssh which username you used on your desktop01:54
fatharrahman__ok01:55
fatharrahman__it ask for apassword01:55
yofelfatharrahman__: input password of user fadul01:55
JoeSomebodyhow do i fix it and redo them right?01:55
fatharrahman__ok then I got it01:55
holsteinJoeSomebody: the theory is that there is nothing to fix01:56
yofelfatharrahman__: that's essentially the login prompt on your desktop01:56
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: No. You can't install full theme sets.01:56
fatharrahman__yofel: am sorry01:56
JoeSomebodywhy cant i ?01:56
fatharrahman__you did it again yofel01:56
fatharrahman__it worrks01:56
yofelfatharrahman__: good :)01:57
fatharrahman__you are amazing01:57
fatharrahman__:)01:57
yofelfatharrahman__: I use ssh myself so I know how it works ;)01:57
JoeSomebodyhow can i remove the two that did not go right?01:57
holsteinJoeSomebody: what did you install?01:58
holsteinand how did you install?01:58
fatharrahman__If you are online I believe I'll never be embarrassed  with my computer yofel THANK YOU01:58
JoeSomebodyi figure i have to remove them ,and then put one back , and then save it as something , etc. etc, right?01:58
UndiFineDJoeSomebody, how did you install them ?01:58
JoeSomebodyor is the stuff just broke in this version?01:58
yofelfatharrahman__: just ask here, I'm not the only one that knows a lot ;)01:59
JoeSomebodythis was easy in 9.something01:59
holsteinJoeSomebody: link us to what you downloaded01:59
JoeSomebodydownload in ff, install in default, theme mgr i think01:59
fatharrahman__UndiFineD too ;)01:59
JoeSomebodytheme installer maybe01:59
JoeSomebodytheme something01:59
UndiFineDfatharrahman__, ;)01:59
fatharrahman__:)02:00
holsteinJoeSomebody: right02:00
holsteinwhat page did you go to?02:00
holsteinwhat file did you download?02:00
JoeSomebodythe one suggested in appearance02:00
UndiFineDok02:00
JoeSomebodyteh first two themes on the list02:00
JoeSomebodythe first two themes on the page02:01
JoeSomebodyholstein that system is not on the net or irc02:02
JoeSomebodyyou have the answer02:02
JoeSomebodybest i can do02:02
fatharrahman__am connected via ssh to a desktop how can I control and view the desktop of that computer?02:03
holsteinand i dont have 10.10 running JoeSomebody :/02:03
holsteinlet me see what i have in 10.0402:03
JoeSomebodyi remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight02:03
JoeSomebodythey looked like they installed02:03
JoeSomebodyyet are " not there"02:03
yofelfatharrahman__: you can't do that over ssh, since ssh is command line only02:03
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: Have you looked for the theme elements in "Customize"?02:04
yofelfatharrahman__: VNC does that though, but I don't know much about that02:04
holsteinJoeSomebody: you click on 'get more themes online?02:04
holsteinthen you get linked to http://art.gnome.org/themes/ ??02:04
holsteinright?02:04
fatharrahman__what is the command openinig dektop through ssh02:04
aveilleuxfatharrahman__: You can't do that.02:05
JoeSomebodyholstein yes02:05
holsteincd /home/you/Desktop02:05
aveilleuxfatharrahman__: SSH isn't a graphical login.02:05
holsteinthe Desktop directory ^^02:05
yofelhm02:05
yofel!vnc02:05
ubot2VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:05
yofelfatharrahman__: ^02:05
UndiFineDJoeSomebody, I have installed one02:06
holsteinJoeSomebody: so, what did you download there?02:06
JoeSomebody[10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> i remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight02:06
JoeSomebody[10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> they looked like they installed02:06
JoeSomebody[10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> yet are " not there"02:06
fatharrahman__aveilleux: cant I view desktop of a computer I already contact with by ssh?02:06
UndiFineDJoeSomebody, it was a control theme, that aero-ion one02:07
fatharrahman__only control but not seeing?02:07
aveilleuxfatharrahman__: No. SSH is not a graphical system.02:07
JoeSomebodyi am a newbie on linux02:07
UndiFineDthis is something you download, and is then extracted to another directory02:07
JoeSomebodynot sure i even get that02:07
yofelfatharrahman__: ssh is terminal only, you *can* open applications from your other pc on your *current* pc if you use 'ssh -X ...', but not the entire desktop02:07
yofelwell, that maybe too, but you can't control the desktop that's running on the other pc02:08
JoeSomebodyin windows a theme is a freakin theme :)02:08
fatharrahman__I got it02:08
holsteinwindows theme?02:08
holsteindecorations?02:08
JoeSomebodyin windows a theme is one thing02:08
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: In Linux (or Metacity, more precisely) a theme is a set of different elements put together.02:08
holsteinOH, windows borders?02:08
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: Just like the rest of the OS.02:08
JoeSomebodyso here its many things together?02:08
fatharrahman__may some body please develop an application combine ssh and vnc ?  :)02:08
holsteinfatharrahman__: lol02:09
aveilleuxfatharrahman__: Why would you need to? VNC is graphical, SSH is command-line.02:09
Cheri703is canon pretty compatible with ubuntu overall?02:09
Cheri703*printers02:09
JoeSomebodyso how do i get a whole theme installed at once, dont02:09
holsteinCheri703: depends02:09
JoeSomebodyso how do i get a whole theme installed at once, i dont?02:09
yofelfatharrahman__: that guide ubot2 posted mentions ssh with vnc too02:09
holsteinpretty much have to google around, or just try it Cheri703 :)02:10
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: You can install all of the elements at once, but Ubuntu doesn't automatically put them together for you.02:10
Cheri703I'm looking for a new printer, and I won't get an hp, and I know lexmark is out, I've heard brother is decent with linux support, and *some* epsons02:10
fatharrahman__aveilleux we are linux fans we want to make live easier so I call for that02:10
* holstein has had good luck with brother02:10
yofelaveilleux: in this case ssh is to encrypt the data vnc is transmitting02:10
yofelfatharrahman__: well, it's already doable, read the guide02:10
Cheri703holstein: that's where I'm leaning right now, just have to figure out which one02:10
JoeSomebodyso i was hoiping to look at some popular linux themes , what you just told me has me wondering if i even can02:10
aveilleuxJoeSomebody: It's.... not that hard of a system to use.02:11
holsteinCheri703: save the recipts02:11
holsteinjust in case02:11
JoeSomebodyis there some illustrated books on themes?02:12
holsteinyou can goodle the model though and see02:12
JoeSomebodyor faq or doc or something02:12
fatharrahman__yofel: ubot2 is not posting any more ;)02:12
holsteinHP has linux drivers right on the site02:12
holsteinbrother has some too AFAIK02:12
yofelfatharrahman__: well, read the one line it posted :P02:12
fatharrahman__which guide?02:12
Cheri703I refuse to get another hp02:12
yofel!vnc | fatharrahman__02:12
ubot2fatharrahman__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:12
aveilleuxfatharrahman__: ubot2 is a bot. It responds to keywords in the channel.02:12
holsteini'll probably get another brother when the time comes02:12
holsteini have an epson that works too02:13
fatharrahman__I dont understand what bot exactly mean  and how uou control this thing02:14
holsteinJoeSomebody: http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/10/12-themes-for-ubuntu-1010.html02:14
holsteintheres some fancy looking themes that im not going to ever try02:14
fatharrahman__I am reading the guide now02:14
holsteinive always just downloaded the parts i wanted and used them02:15
holsteinthe icons or whatever i want02:15
holsteinJoeSomebody: there are a lot of options for theming02:15
yofelfatharrahman__: bot is short for robot02:15
yofel!me | fatharrahman__02:15
ubot2fatharrahman__: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-beginners's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:15
fatharrahman__how to make vino-preferences start automatically at start up02:15
yofelfatharrahman__: read the Usage info, that has information how to use the bot02:15
holsteinfatharrahman__: it should be persistent02:15
holsteinthe settings there02:16
holsteinyofel: did you set ubot2 up?02:16
holstein  ubot2 is a supybot right?02:17
ubot2holstein: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:17
fatharrahman__yah02:17
yofelholstein: no, from the bot list jpds owns it02:17
fatharrahman__I asked a Q and he was explaining02:17
* holstein is setting up a supybot to replace a phennybot02:17
fatharrahman__is bot working alone ?02:17
yofelholstein: if you have a question about the bot jpds as at least in #ubuntu-bugs02:17
yofels/as/is/02:18
fatharrahman__am sorry I thouh yofel did it02:18
holsteinyofel: i dont have anything specific yet02:18
holsteinim still RTFM-in02:18
holsteing02:18
JoeSomebodyyou guys know all about themes, is there a channel for themes, or some sort of a guide?02:19
holsteini would say there are guides out there02:19
JoeSomebodyi hvea ubuntu book but its way outa date now02:19
holsteindepends on where you get them from02:20
yofelfatharrahman__: the bot is a program running by itself, usually you're just querying it's database about stuff it knows02:20
holsteinand what verions of things you are running02:20
holsteingnome, etc..02:20
fatharrahman__mp302:20
holsteinJoeSomebody: best way is just asking02:20
yofelJoeSomebody: did you try in #ubuntu? maybe someone there knows02:20
holstein'i downloaded this file from this site, how do i install it'02:20
JoeSomebodyyeah i asked there first, they sent me here02:21
yofel:/02:21
JoeSomebodythey don't seem to answer newbie questions lately for me, they used to02:21
fatharrahman__yofel do you mean if write some of what is under factoid the bot answer?02:21
JoeSomebodyhow old is this chan? i didnt know about it02:22
holsteinyou need a ! prolly02:22
holstein!something02:22
ubot2Factoid 'something' not found02:22
yofelfatharrahman__: as holstein said02:22
holstein!nautilus02:22
ubot2Factoid 'nautilus' not found02:22
yofel!ssh02:22
ubot2SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)02:22
fatharrahman__ahhhhhhhha02:22
holstein!vino02:22
ubot2Factoid 'vino' not found02:22
fatharrahman__I got it02:22
holstein:/02:23
fatharrahman__!ask02:23
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:23
yofel!info vino02:23
fatharrahman__wow02:23
fatharrahman__wow02:23
ubot2yofel: vino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 159 kB, installed size 512 kB02:23
holsteinAH02:23
holsteinthere it is :)02:23
holstein!info nautilus02:23
ubot2holstein: nautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 1138 kB, installed size 3036 kB02:23
yofel"!info" queries the package database02:23
holstein:)02:24
yofelacutally the syntax is: '!info <package> <release>'02:24
yofel!info xserver-xorg-core natty02:24
ubot2yofel: xserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.9.0.902-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1453 kB, installed size 3724 kB02:24
fatharrahman__wow you guys living in a totally different world02:24
yofelthe current stable release is the default02:24
yofelfatharrahman__: stay with us for a few months and you'll know a lot too ;)02:25
holstein!grub hardy02:25
ubot2Factoid 'grub hardy' not found02:25
holstein!info grub hardy02:25
ubot2holstein: grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu21.2 (hardy), package size 376 kB, installed size 836 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all)02:25
holsteinCOOL02:25
fatharrahman__yofel: Thank you you and holstien are amazing and very kind people02:26
holstein!info unity natty02:26
JoeSomebodywhat is 10.10 called?02:26
ubot2holstein: unity (source: unity): Unity Interface for Ubuntu Netbook Edition. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.46-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 125 kB, installed size 484 kB02:26
yofelJoeSomebody: maverick meerkat02:26
fatharrahman__!holstein thnk you02:26
ubot2fatharrahman__: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:26
JoeSomebody!info userguide maverick02:27
holsteinfatharrahman__: anytime02:27
ubot2JoeSomebody: Package userguide does not exist in maverick02:27
yofelfatharrahman__, holstein: you can also talk to the bot in private, there without the !: /msg ubot2 <factoid>02:27
holsteinJoeSomebody: it would be a package in the OS02:27
fatharrahman__:)02:27
holsteinyofel: i have my bot querried02:27
holsteinto do admin tasks02:27
holsteintook me a while to get it to announce02:28
holsteinand i dont have factiods set up at all02:28
JoeSomebody!info theme manager maverick02:28
ubot2JoeSomebody: 'manager' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid, maverick, natty02:28
JoeSomebodyhmmm02:28
JoeSomebodycoffee break02:28
holsteinJoeSomebody: one thing that is confusing the bot02:29
holsteina package name wont have any spaces02:29
holsteintheme-manager02:29
holsteinIF there is a theme-manager package02:29
holsteinthe bot is expecting !info02:29
holsteinthen the package name02:29
holsteinthen the release02:29
holsteinthe spaces mean something02:29
holstein!info gnome-apperance-properties maverick02:30
ubot2holstein: Package gnome-apperance-properties does not exist in maverick02:30
holstein!info gnome-appearance-properties maverick02:30
ubot2holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick02:31
holstein!info gnome-appearance-properties02:31
ubot2holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick02:31
holsteinhmmm02:31
UndiFineDJoeSomebody, there is an ubuntu manual02:31
holstein!info gnome-appearance-properties02:31
ubot2holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick02:31
UndiFineD!manual02:31
ubot2The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/02:31
holstein!info gnome-appearance-properties lucid02:32
ubot2holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in lucid02:32
UndiFineD!appearance02:32
ubot2Factoid 'appearance' not found02:32
holsteineh02:32
UndiFineD!themes02:32
ubot2Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:32
holsteinits not an exact science :)02:32
fatharrahman__yofel: before say good night  give me on command to shutdown fadul@192. using ssh02:35
holsteinexit02:35
holsteinOH02:35
holsteinto shut it down remotely02:35
fatharrahman__no holstein02:35
fatharrahman__yes02:35
yofelfatharrahman__: to logout from your desktop 'exit' or press ctrl+d, to shutdown, 'sudo shutdown -h now'02:35
holsteinsudo shutdown -n now02:35
* holstein just found that ctrl+d like yesterday ;)02:36
yofelholstein: shutdown has no -n option02:36
holsteinsudo shutdown -h now **02:36
holsteinyeah, like -h = halt right?02:36
fatharrahman__holstein ,yofel,UndiFineD   Good Night02:37
holsteinfatharrahman__: GN02:37
yofelgn02:37
JoeSomebodyUndiFineD that is Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 , i have that and havent used it yet, as i have 10.10 and want a full manual, should i us eit anyway, or perhaps that is all there is so far?02:37
yofelholstein: -h is actually: halt or power off (depends on the system)02:37
holsteini think youll be OK with a 10.04 manual in 10.1002:38
UndiFineDthe 10.04 manual is often good enogh for 10.1002:38
JoeSomebodyok sweet02:38
yofelholstein: -H would be halt and -P is power off, but -h is what everone uses usually02:38
UndiFineDthe next manual would be 11.04 anyway02:38
holsteinyofel: OH yeah02:38
holsteini read that02:39
holsteinthe -H option02:39
holsteindidnt try -P02:39
holstein-h is the one that worked for me :)02:39
JoeSomebodylots of windows books around, but not so much on ubuntu, i will buy it even :)02:39
holsteinJoeSomebody: its challenging to create such a book02:40
holsteinlots of changes happening02:40
holsteinnot so much with the core usually02:40
holsteinbut making that end-all beginner book would be a challening02:40
holsteinchallenge*02:40
holsteinanyone using wicd ?02:45
holsteinwicd-curses02:45
holsteini was thinking that would be a handy tool02:46
hajourhai holstein02:46
holsteinhajour: hello02:46
hajourits almost 4.00 in night here02:46
holsteinAH02:46
holstein10p here02:46
hajourwhere got you a problem with holstein ?02:47
holsteinno problems right now :)02:48
holsteinso far02:48
hajourif you want to chat just talk.you can better go to #ubuntu-beginners-team02:49
hajourthis channel is only for if you got problems with a program ore something like that02:49
Cheri703I think he's hanging out to help hajour02:50
hajouro ok sorry02:50
hajourthought he was a new comer02:50
holsteini was, i was just trying to catch a natural lag in conversation02:50
holsteinand see if somebody was using wicd-curses for something useful02:50
holsteinhajour: i havent been here in a while02:51
Cheri703no problem hajour :)02:51
hajourok .i am here just 2 weeks .i was just trying to help.:)02:51
holsteinthanks02:51
hajouryour welcome.:)02:52
Cheri703one thing that is a good and bad thing about ubuntu: you can't (or at least not easily) create dummy printers to test drivers02:58
Cheri703it wants an actual one to verify with02:58
Cheri703in windows I can create them and play with the drivers all I want02:59
Cheri703holstein: I'm looking at the epson stylus nx625...has auto duplexing, which is a major plus for me02:59
JoeSomebodythat reminds me, does ubuntu have anything like windows driver verifier?03:00
holsteinlooks good Cheri70303:00
Cheri703I work with xerox machines all day, so I lust after one of the big $30,000 office machines, with the finishers and such, but...not going to happen :/03:01
holsteinmy older stylus that i forget the model #03:01
holsteinout of the box support03:01
holsteinJoeSomebody: not really03:01
holsteinmost drivers are in the kernel03:02
holsteinand other drivers you would choose to install03:02
holsteinyou'll be able to 'verify' on your own03:02
JoeSomebodyactually, sounds superior to windows (again)03:02
holsteinjust different03:03
holsteini mean, i think its superior ;)03:03
holsteinbut im not dogging other folk's preferences03:03
JoeSomebodywindows has all these wrong drivers somehow, maybe windows shoudl have them built in too03:04
JoeSomebodywell i must crack the book open ...03:04
JoeSomebodythanks all03:05
holsteinJoeSomebody: laterx :)03:05
asterismohello everybody03:19
asterismodoes anybody has experience with PCSX2?03:22
asterismoanyone?03:30
holsteinasterismo: you have it running?03:35
asterismoi installed an experimental PPA version03:36
asterismobut i cannot make a game run at all03:36
asterismoi dont know how many files for the bios there has to be and staff like that03:37
holsteini just asked my go-to gaming guy03:37
asterismoi downloaded some bios files03:37
holsteinhe said its slow...03:37
holsteinwait03:38
holsteintheres an argument now03:38
holsteinabout how its not slow03:38
holsteinits over in #opensourcemusicians03:38
holsteinim sure they wouldnt mind talking about it with you03:38
holstein[lsd] and falktx03:38
asterismomay i ask in that channel?03:39
holsteinsure03:39
JoeSomebodyi have a drive with my ubuntu root swap and home partitions first , then the rest of the drive is ntfs, i want to skrink and move my ntfs to the end, and then resize my home bigger by about 100 gb(which i have never done) do i use gparted, is that in terminal?03:39
UndiFineDJoeSomebody, do not do that03:40
JoeSomebodyi will do ntfs resize under windows03:40
JoeSomebodyno?03:40
UndiFineDwindows always wants to be the first partition03:40
JoeSomebodyno windows is on another drive03:40
UndiFineDok03:41
JoeSomebodythe 1.5tb in question has linux and ntfs data only03:41
JoeSomebodyi have 3 windows versions on a 250 gb03:41
UndiFineDwell it is ok then :)03:41
JoeSomebodyi choose my hdd on boot03:41
JoeSomebodyso i can use gparted ? and is that a GUI?03:42
UndiFineDhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/543411/03:43
UndiFineDyes gparted is a gui : System -> Administration -> Gparted ...03:43
JoeSomebodyso i can use gparted on ntfs too?03:52
JoeSomebodyi mean can i use gparted on ntfs too?03:53
holsteinyeah03:53
holsteinjust make sure everything is backed up03:53
JoeSomebodyonly part backed up , cant help it03:56
JoeSomebodywhat is align to MiB?03:59
holsteinJoeSomebody: thats what im getting at03:59
holsteinyou really can totally break everything you have04:00
holsteinin one click04:00
holsteinits easy04:00
holsteinive done it ;)04:00
holsteini would back up everything04:00
holsteinread everything twice04:00
holsteinthen, ask 'do i really need to do this now'04:00
holsteinthen, do it04:00
holsteinas long as your comfortable with those terms04:01
holsteindont worry about 'align to MiB'04:01
JoeSomebodyis gparted live any better in my case?04:12
UndiFineDgparted is gparted04:13
UndiFineDif you can move live that is ok04:14
UndiFineDbut if you need to unmount / or /home04:14
UndiFineDthen use the livecd04:14
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Mohan_chmlGah! KinkyPinkie / inkognito  please stop it11:12
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Mohan_chml-_-'11:13
harmony1001hi! how do i register my nickname with nickserv?12:22
Mohan_chmlharmony1001, /msg nickserv help register12:23
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: split second faster!! :|12:24
Mohan_chmllol12:24
harmony1001Mohan_chml I get this response: Unknown command?12:25
Mohan_chmlharmony1001, http://pastebin.com/CuTm01ni12:26
JoeMaverickSettharmony1001: do not put a space infront of /msg12:26
harmony1001can i run the command in the ubuntu-beginners room?12:31
harmony1001when i type /msg i get unknown command12:31
JoeMaverickSettharmony1001: what client are you using to connect to irc?12:33
harmony1001empathy12:33
JoeMaverickSettharmony1001: !register <<-- try that.12:34
harmony1001!regsiter12:34
ubot2Factoid 'regsiter' not found12:34
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, FAIL :P12:34
JoeMaverickSettharmony1001: in your nickserv chat window.12:34
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: not fail.12:34
Mohan_chml:o12:35
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: this says so at least; http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/483448/register-nick-using-empathy-client XD12:35
JoeMaverickSettharmony1001: could you register?12:39
harmony1001_chml: just joined the nickserv room12:40
mks1992need help installing ubuntu 10.10 to my laptop12:43
mks1992when i run ubuntu ni live cd12:44
mks1992every thing works fine, but when i install it and restart the laptop i get a run error on some virtual adress12:45
harmony1001i am struggling to register my nickname with nickserv using empathy 2.32.112:50
harmony1001the /msg command in not supported12:51
harmony1001this !register command also does not work?12:51
fatharrahmanhi13:05
suprengr!register13:28
ubot2Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode13:28
suprengr[http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=register]13:28
fatharrahman!hi13:33
ubot2Factoid 'hi' not found13:33
fatharrahman!ubot213:35
ubot2Factoid 'ubot2' not found13:35
fatharrahman!pm13:36
ubot2Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.13:36
harmony1001!register13:36
ubot2Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode13:36
fatharrahmanbash: /msg: No such file or directory13:47
fatharrahmanharmony1001: registering your nickname wrote an unclear guides and guess what this is the results :bash: /msg: No such file or directory13:50
JoeMaverickSettfatharrahman: you're supposed to do /msg <command> in your irc client not in the terminal.13:52
fatharrahmanwhy they dont write this in the guide !register13:53
fatharrahmanwhere in  xchat JoeMverickSett I mean which tab ?13:58
JoeMaverickSettfatharrahman: probably any tab, to be safe, try the freenode tab.14:02
fatharrahmanhow to install GNOM power manager from shell (I want the command) please?14:40
fatharrahman?14:41
DiegoTcfatharrahman: sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager14:42
fatharrahmanthanks14:42
DiegoTcnp14:42
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fatharrahmanif some one got a crash while upgrading ubuntu then lost power manager he tried to lo in to ctrl+alt+f2 but it says incorrect log in wha s the problem the?15:28
holsteinwrong user/pass?15:29
nlsthzncould it be possible that the password file got corrupted?15:30
holsteinplausible i suppose15:30
holsteintheres a recovery mode15:31
holsteinor was*15:31
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reaper_? how do I turn up the brightness of my screen on a laptop18:29
zkriesse!brightness18:29
ubot2Factoid 'brightness' not found18:29
zkriessedarn!18:29
zkriesseThat's in your screen settings18:29
zkriesseJust opposite click, and it should be findable pretty quick reaper_18:29
reaper_ok thanks18:31
zkriesseUh...i wonder if it worked....18:32
reaper_how do I check to see what is using my Internet18:56
sebikulreaper_, execute "netstat" in a terminal18:59
reaper_wow thats a lot19:00
sebikulno problem ;)19:01
nlsthznwow cool... netstat rocks :)19:01
reaper_there was like three or four I dont know what they are for19:02
nlsthznproblem is this shows every network connection, port... so many applications connecting to so many other things19:12
fatharrahmanI have a big problem19:32
knit-witfatharrahman, do tell19:33
fatharrahmanthe desktop auto shutdown19:33
knit-witfatharrahman, can you restart it more info please19:34
fatharrahmanok19:34
fatharrahmanwait a minute  am slow typer19:34
knit-witfatharrahman, are you at a teminal tty19:35
fatharrahmanno19:35
fatharrahmanI started it again am at username screen now19:35
knit-witfatharrahman, so far so good19:35
fatharrahmanI installed Ubuntu 10.04 in a 512 RAM desktop ok?19:36
knit-witfatharrahman, ok19:36
fatharrahmanthen sudo lubuntu in it19:36
knit-witok19:36
knit-witfatharrahman, id lunbuntu in the chouces at login19:37
knit-witis19:37
fatharrahmanit  was pretty with wubi because BIOS dont see USB so it all inside a new windows19:37
fatharrahmanI was inside lubuntu19:37
fatharrahmanaha19:38
knit-witfatharrahman, so you have a wubi your changing the desktops on?19:38
fatharrahmanno I19:38
fatharrahmaninstaaled all the system by wubi and for three days it was good19:39
fatharrahmanI connected ssh19:39
fatharrahmanyesterday for learing how19:39
fatharrahmanand was connecting vnc 219:40
fatharrahmanthen19:40
fatharrahmanit suddenlly19:40
fatharrahmanshutdown while freind browsing facebook19:40
fatharrahmanI lost ssh at laptp19:41
fatharrahmanI checked the desktop but no signal19:41
fatharrahmanafter start up i mean19:41
knit-witfatharrahman, with 512 ram I would be running it in a dual boot and a OS with less ram needed19:41
knit-witfatharrahman, I just checked out archbang a arch offshoot that you can get a live ISI for19:42
fatharrahmanis wubi is not a dual boot19:42
knit-witfatharrahman, technically no it isn't in it's own partition19:43
knit-witfatharrahman, wubi is a file in windows more of a pseudo virtual.19:43
fatharrahmanok why the system shut down exactly at connect to signal19:44
knit-witfatharrahman, hard to say but do you know the ram and cpu at all time19:44
knit-witusage19:45
fatharrahmanI opened it now  no crash19:45
fatharrahmanbut if I press connect to network at moment of internet connection it shutdown19:46
knit-witfatharrahman, I would have a conky on the desktop to see whats being used19:46
MrAnthropeI'm having trouble getting my mic to work. I thought it was working because I saw something on Input Level in the Sound Preferences under Input but I've realized that's not me talking it just says there's input and there isn't.19:46
fatharrahmanby rhe way19:46
MrAnthropeAlso I'm confused about what analog microphone / input 2 / microphone 1 et c all means.19:46
MrAnthropefor the "connector"19:46
fatharrahmanknit-win: what conky mean?19:47
MrAnthrope!conky19:48
ubot2Factoid 'conky' not found19:48
MrAnthropeMeh. It was worth a shot.19:48
MrAnthropeConky is like a desktop/widgit/thing.19:48
MrAnthropeBut you can do more with it than that.19:49
knit-witfatharrahman, conky is customizable http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135830219:49
knit-witfatharrahman, just a desktop utility that will show a variety of things.19:49
fatharrahmanok19:50
fatharrahmanwhat19:50
knit-witMrAnthrope, sorry I can't help thanks for yours.19:50
fatharrahmancan I ask a Q?19:50
knit-witgo for it19:51
MrAnthropeheh.19:51
fatharrahmanif I got 2.4 GHz in this desktop and the bought 2-4 Gb RAM are this gonna work better or shoud I change motherboard?19:52
knit-witfatharrahman, confusing question19:53
MrAnthrope"Highly configurable system monitor"19:53
knit-witfatharrahman, how do you get these things?19:54
fatharrahmanwhat things ?19:54
MrAnthrope2.4GHz processor? Is it single core?19:54
fatharrahmanI guess yes19:55
MrAnthropeIf you're upgrading I would upgrade the motherboard and get a multicore processor.19:55
nlsthznfor sure... multi-core is now defacto just about19:55
MrAnthropeBut if you can't afford all that some more ram will help. I don't know what the ram cap is for Ubuntu. I'm pretty sure x64 doesn't have a cap.19:55
knit-witUpgrading a mother board sounds like new Windows install needed19:56
knit-witXp might take it19:56
nlsthznbut seeing as linux uses so little RAM 2 GB is good, 4 about the same, more just no change19:56
MrAnthropeWhere does conky install to? System, Preferences?19:57
MrAnthropeYeah you will definitely notice a speed boost if you get a dual core processor from what I've been told most Ubuntu shiz takes advantage of that now.19:58
knit-witMrAnthrope, conky install to the system and has a file in files  .conky is moved to home in the terminal then conky19:58
knit-witMrAnthrope, it is not used in the menu19:58
fatharrahmanwho can give me some time to guide me reinstall yhe ubuntu ?I need some private to complete it19:58
MrAnthropeah. Hmm I guess I need a beginner's guide on conky lol.19:59
MrAnthropefatharrahman Installing Ubuntu is more simple than installing windows. The only complicated part would be configuring partitions which is fairly easily explained.19:59
knit-witfatharrahman, you might consider the Ubuntu forums lots of good help there and a lot more people available.19:59
fatharrahmanno20:00
fatharrahmanit is not that sort20:00
MrAnthropeIt is not what sort?20:00
fatharrahmanI installed thousands of Ubuntu20:00
bodhizazenMrAnthrope: all you need to know is 'killall conkey'20:00
knit-witbodhizazen, what do you think forum or IRC?20:00
bodhizazen=)20:00
bodhizazenit gets old after a while20:00
bodhizazenfatharrahman: what do you need help with ?20:00
MrAnthropelol thanks bod but it's not running yet :P20:00
bodhizazenknit-wit: whatever you feel is better20:00
MrAnthropeI don't have a .conky folder in my home folder.20:01
knit-witbodhizazen, so even keeled20:01
bodhizazenknit-wit: IRC works well for some, others not20:01
bodhizazenif you have ADD, #ubuntu can be hard to follow20:01
bodhizazenbut often IRC is faster20:02
knit-witbodhizazen, I have tried to help this person not god for helpers at least for me.20:02
knit-witgood20:02
fatharrahmanThe desktop I mentioned is seeing the USB at BIOS but is not mounting feom it I posted this several time at forums I googled and scaned the web for asolution in vain thats why it is in wubi now20:02
knit-witgood luck to you all and a happy holiday got to go.20:02
bodhizazenfatharrahman: ??20:03
bodhizazenyour usb will not boot ?20:03
fatharrahmansame usb I installed many computer but thats why20:03
MrAnthropeAre you not able to burn a .iso to an actual CD? Or does the system not have a CD drive?20:04
fatharrahmanI have a CD ROM but not Writable20:04
MrAnthrope._.20:04
fatharrahmanis the cd rom burnable20:05
fatharrahman:)20:05
fatharrahmanor ahould it br writable20:05
fatharrahman?20:05
MrAnthropeI"m confused. Are you asking or telling?20:06
fatharrahmanasking20:06
fatharrahman??20:06
MrAnthropeDo you not know how to burn .iso files?20:06
fatharrahmanI know20:06
fatharrahmanwhat am not sure is that20:06
fatharrahmanis my cd rom working20:07
fatharrahmanor should it be a writable cd rom20:07
MrAnthropeYou're not sure if your cd drive is working?20:07
fatharrahmanno20:08
fatharrahmanit is working20:08
MrAnthropelol :)20:08
fatharrahmanoh my GOD20:08
fatharrahmanit is working20:08
fatharrahmanhow can I ask you?20:08
fatharrahmanplease ?20:08
fatharrahmanlet me ask20:08
MrAnthropeI'm afraid I just don't understand the question.20:09
fatharrahmanok20:09
fatharrahmanI'll reform it20:09
MrAnthropeDon't punch me, but is English your first language?20:09
fatharrahmanno20:09
MrAnthropeWhat language do you speak?20:09
fatharrahmanit is sucks I know20:09
MrAnthropelol I think that's the problem here. There are language specific IRC chat rooms for Ubuntu.20:10
fatharrahmanI'll speak Englis only from now20:10
MrAnthropeWhat is your first langauge?20:10
MrAnthropelanguage*20:10
fatharrahmanhidden20:10
MrAnthropelol hidden?20:10
fatharrahmancould I reform my Q?20:11
MrAnthrope /join Ubuntu-fr for french20:11
MrAnthrope #Ubuntu-es for spanish.20:11
MrAnthropeet c.20:12
fatharrahmanwhat is required for a CD drive to burn a cd in it20:12
fatharrahmanmy drive got a tag on it say CD-ROM-DRIVE is thats all ?20:13
fatharrahmanbecause some friend told me to burn a cd you should have a specific drive got writable labeled on it20:14
fatharrahmanis it clear now Mr MrAnthrope ?20:15
fatharrahman!help20:23
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:23
oldtroupadorI need help with Boinc running in urbntu 10.10 with gtx460 with the latest drivers. All most all wu's report computation error.20:25
MrAnthropeSorry, fatharrahman I'm getting ready for work. Yeah your cd drive should say CD-R RW on it.20:35
fatharrahmanok then the RW is not there20:35
MrAnthropeIt should list three speeds. 48x 48x 24x or something.20:36
fatharrahmanit is only CD-R20:36
MrAnthropeI would invest in a RW drive. They're like 20 bucks.20:37
MrAnthropewww.newegg.com20:37
fatharrahmanthat's why I have no choices either wubi or USB20:37
MrAnthropeI see.20:37
fatharrahmanis this a link for advertising your investment to me ?20:38
MrAnthropelmfao20:38
MrAnthropeI wish.20:38
MrAnthropenew egg is a place to get cheap computer parts.20:38
fatharrahmanThank you20:40
MrAnthropeSorry I can't help with the USB issue, I have never installed an OS from a USB drive before.20:41
bubbalooofatharrahman, whats your computer model20:42
oldtroupadorI need help setting up Boinc-Manager in ubuntu 10.10 on an AMd atholn II x4 with a gtx460 wu's error out?20:42
fatharrahmanI dont kow bubbalooo20:43
MrAnthropeFair warning, bubbalooo, he doesn't speak english and refuses to go to his native language channel.20:43
fatharrahmanthank you MrAnthrope20:44
bubbaloooMrAnthrope, I could add more warnings but I would like to see them helped.;)20:44
MrAnthropelol20:44
MrAnthropeHe could get help if he'd go to his native language channel.  Learning Linux is a LOT like learning a foreign language.20:44
MrAnthropeHave you ever tried to study German in French? It's not fun.20:45
fatharrahmanam good with english many natives thinks am native :)20:45
MrAnthropeI'd say you're at about a 4th grade writing level.20:46
fatharrahmanit is here you need not to focus on grammer while eriting quickly20:46
fatharrahmanwriting *20:46
MrAnthropeGrammar is important for communication. Your lack of grammar is what took you 20 minutes to ask if your CD drive was RW.20:47
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oldtroupadorI thought this was a help channel not grammer lessons ?20:47
bubbalooooldtroupador, it is a communication channel first20:48
fatharrahmanI was trying to give a quick query20:48
fatharrahmanand to pick a quick reply20:49
bubbalooofatharrahman, whats the native language20:49
bubbalooowhat's20:50
fatharrahmanshould I stop entering this freenode20:50
bubbalooofatharrahman, no we just want to help and communication and understanding help thats all.20:50
fatharrahmanI speak English only bad english too20:51
fatharrahmanmany people here helped me and got me as well why do want to kick me off?20:51
fatharrahmanI am sorry20:52
bubbalooofatharrahman, who wants to kick you off you would be already if that was the case20:52
fatharrahmanyou made me mad for a while20:52
bubbalooowho me20:52
fatharrahmanI am sorry20:52
fatharrahmanI am repeating my apologetics20:53
fatharrahmanI am sorry20:53
bubbalooofatharrahman, when in a environment that is major changes to you set up I want to make sure personally I don't bork it20:54
bubbalooowe want you safe and happy.;)20:55
fatharrahmanforget about the question now am asking you during this crazy conversation did you misunderstand me in due to English?20:55
fatharrahmanI guess no is the answer20:56
bubbalooofatharrahman, the only thing I noticed is a exsperience level with partitioning and open source thats all20:56
bubbalooonot necessarily  accurate that is why I ask questions, but when the message gets mixed up it adds more difficulty.20:57
fatharrahmanis it grammatically  true to say : 'a experience ' ? :)20:57
fatharrahmanyou typed  "a exsperience"20:58
fatharrahman:)20:58
bubbalooofatharrahman, I have to log off soon so where are we at, I think talking about grammer is a waste of time but that is just me. It is about understanding each other really20:59
fatharrahmanshould I forget about what are you talking about and focus on this as you were making to me?20:59
fatharrahmanno20:59
fatharrahmanI don't think this is a wise sction21:00
bubbalooofatharrahman, good luck see you soon I hope you get whatever resolved that seems to be the problem21:00
oldtroupadorI need help setting up Boinc-Manager in ubuntu 10.10 on an AMd atholn II x4 with a gtx460 wu's error out21:01
fatharrahmanthanky  you21:01
fatharrahmanbye21:01
davrichello21:21
davriccan someone please help me out21:21
davricanyone there?21:22
yofel!anyone | davric21:27
ubot2davric: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?21:27
davricWell I installed Heroes of Newerth but when I try to launch it my screen flickers and im back to desktop21:28
Timo_davric: don't play HoN, you probably installed it through wine21:29
davricno it is linux native21:29
Timo_so did you check the appdb from WINE?21:29
Timo_oh21:29
Timo_mm21:29
davricI installed the linux version correctly21:29
Timo_did you by any chance google it?21:29
davrici have installed and played it in the past easily on different comps21:30
Timo_the problem21:30
davricyes extensively21:30
davricI think it might be lack of proper drivers21:30
Timo_do you have 3d drivers installed?21:30
davricbut i cant seem to find how to get the latest radeon x800 drivers21:30
davricnot sure, i would like to go about installing them though21:30
davricI run a Radeon X80021:30
davricplease help me install them21:31
Timo_mm21:33
Timo_you probably tried the hardware drivers program?21:34
Timo_or not yet?21:34
davricI have21:34
davricdid not find any drivers21:34
Timo_mm21:44
Timo_well then we need to manually find them21:44
luis__hi!!21:44
Timo_mmm davric that's not promising, first hit: "Radeon x800 ATI Driver Misery" :P21:44
davricaww really?21:44
davricso you guys cant help me ]:21:45
Timo_davric: so you have 32 bit or 64 bit?21:46
davricI run a 3.6ghz dual core proccessor21:47
davricbut21:47
davrici installed 32 bit version of ubuntu21:47
davrici believe21:47
Timo_okay21:47
Timo_https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:47
Timo_ATI Radeon X800 Series that's the vid card you have, right (just to be sure)21:47
Timo_well download that link21:48
Timo_and get back to me when you've downloaded it21:48
davricdownloaded it21:48
davrici have it downloaded21:50
Timo_okay21:55
Timo_sorry for not responding quickly :D I'm in a very interesting conversation about religion21:55
Timo_well can you open a Terminal?21:55
Timo_do you know how that is done?21:55
davricyes21:56
Timo_okay21:56
davricjust tell me what i need to type in terminal21:56
Timo_well open one up21:56
davricok21:56
Timo_where did you download it?21:56
davriccd Downloads21:56
Timo_in home folder21:56
Timo_or desktop21:56
Timo_okay21:56
Timo_well do cd Downloads21:56
Timo_and then21:57
Timo_./ati-driver21:57
Timo_and just autocomplet it21:57
Timo_and press ENTER21:57
davricwait21:57
Timo_(auto complete is done with TAB)21:57
davricwhen i type ./ati-driver21:57
davricit does nothing21:57
Timo_yes21:57
Timo_write21:57
Timo_./ati-driver <TAB> <ENTER>21:57
davricnope does nothing21:57
Timo_mm21:57
Timo_do you see this:21:57
Timo_tbeemster@tbeemster ~/Downloads $21:57
davricyes21:58
Timo_where tbeemster21:58
Timo_is your name21:58
Timo_mm21:58
davricyup.21:58
Timo_can you check what the file is named in ~/Downloads21:58
davricati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:58
Timo_okay21:58
Timo_so try either this:21:58
Timo_./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:58
Timo_or21:58
Timo_sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:58
Timo_(oh you might wanna run it with sudo21:59
Timo_sudo ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:59
Timo_or21:59
Timo_sudo sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run21:59
davricsays can't open it21:59
davricand when i try ./ it says command not found21:59
yofeldavric: what does running 'pwd' return? (without the quotes)22:00
davricwait22:00
davrici got it running22:00
davricits installing now22:00
yofelk22:00
Timo_good davric! :)22:01
Timo_hi yofel22:01
davricError: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.35-23-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro  Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.ey56tN22:01
Timo_finally a fellow Ubuntu-beginner helping out as well22:01
Timo_:P22:01
davricthats what i got22:01
Timo_mmm22:01
Timo_shit22:01
davricyeah right haha22:01
Timo_well I'm not like a computer guru22:01
Timo_and my hardware drivers just work fine22:01
Timo_so I had hoped this would work :P22:01
davricughhh22:01
davricgeez22:01
davricyofel what do you have in mind?22:02
davricim seriously about to rip this x800 out and throw it at the wall22:02
davricfuck ati22:02
yofelno, you cleared the part I was concerned about, I don't know anything about ati drivers I fear22:02
davricnoooooooooo22:02
davricnvidia is so much more simple22:03
davricOK LAST QUESTION22:03
davricwhat would run better22:03
davrica radeon x800 or two nvidia geforce 7900's ?22:03
Timo_as I said, I'm no computer guru :P22:03
davric:[22:03
Timo_but at least the drivers would work :D22:03
davrichaha good point22:03
Timo_can you try one last thing?22:03
davricyes22:03
davricplease22:03
davrictell me22:04
Timo_sudo apt-get install fglrx-install22:04
Timo_wait no22:04
Timo_sudo apt-get install fglrx22:04
Timo_just that22:04
* Timo_ hopes davric will not break down :D22:04
yofelwatch out with that, first make sure fglrx actually supports that card22:04
davrick its downloading22:04
davricim just gonna wing it22:04
yofelif not, you'll end up without X on reboot22:04
davricnooooo22:04
davricfor real?22:05
yofelwell, it's fixable22:05
davrichow do i fix it?22:05
davricif it does happen22:05
Timo_davric: will be instant terminal guru22:05
Timo_:D22:05
davricC:22:05
Timo_davric: uninstall fglrx again22:05
Timo_when you're running into trouble22:05
Timo_and22:05
Timo_do this22:05
davricok22:05
davricwhats the command for uninstalling that btw22:06
yofeldavric: switch to a tty by pressing ctrl+alt+f2, login in, remove driver again, and remove any /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:06
yofeldavric: apt-get remove fglrx22:06
Timo_that's what I wanted to say :d22:06
davricok22:06
davricC:22:06
yofel(with sudo)22:06
davrici figured22:06
davricsudo of course22:06
davricok22:08
davricfglrx is installed22:08
davricnow what?22:08
davricrestart?22:09
yofelyes, good luck22:09
davricand that should work?22:09
davricor should i try to install those drivers i downloaded when i restart?22:09
Timo_davric: just try to restart22:09
Timo_and do remember22:10
Timo_what yofel said22:10
Timo_in case the system breaks22:10
davricctrl alt f222:10
davricremove fglrx22:10
davric?22:10
davricima restart wish me luck22:10
yofelwell, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English which I got when I searched seems to say that you need to use lucid with your x80022:10
davricwhats lucid?22:11
yofeldavric: ubuntu lucid lynx 10.0422:11
davricim not trying to down grade22:11
davricfuck that22:11
davricbrb restart22:11
yofelor even karmic, since that driver doesn't list Xorg 7.5 as supported...22:11
yofellucid has the old xserver though22:12
* yofel is gone for a few minutes22:12
Timo_haha22:13
Timo_davric is pissed :P22:13
Timo_I used to have that when my graphics card was f up :P but that had nothing to do with linux22:14
yofelhe's not back, bad omen..22:22
Timo_yep22:23
Timo_he might be in some dark terminal now22:23
Timo_scared as hell22:23
bodhizazenpaultag: poke =)22:43
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kendrickLeiter_Any help for a n00b?23:46
bioterrorkendrickLeiter_, whatkind of?23:49
bioterror!ask | kendrickLeiter_23:52
ubot2kendrickLeiter_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:52
kendrickLeiter_Thanks for the help guys.  This is my 2nd time using an IRC.  Will be clear the first time in the future.23:54
head_victimkendrickLeiter_: no worries, it's all a learning experience :)23:54

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