[00:11] deejoe: I managed to bork it :/ [00:12] ran gparted from a livecd... it resized the ext4 okay, then gave an error [00:12] whats the error? [00:12] hi holstein [00:12] o? [00:12] o/ [00:12] * [00:12] hey :) [00:13] it was after it had done the resizing the error came... I don't remember, tbh [00:13] also: \m/ [00:14] kristian-aalborg, did you have the swap off [00:14] yes [00:14] so, I could not boot.... it said I have to run fsck manually.... so I boot in failsafe, and skips the mounting of /home (the broken partition) [00:14] kristian-aalborg, everything was unmounted? [00:15] it should be... getting doubts now, though [00:15] but, now I booted to failsafe... and I can't run fsck [00:16] I can run it, but I get a huge warning [00:17] kristian-aalborg, from the live cd everything unmounted sudo fsck /dev/(partition needingfsck) [00:31] hi again [00:31] the livecd does not have fsck :( [00:31] however, I'm on it now - gparted says "unknown" for the faulty partition [00:33] kristian-aalborg, you could try testdisk what was there can you loose it? [00:33] it was /homw [00:34] ... /home, of course [00:34] kristian-aalborg, you can't run a fsck on a unallocated [00:35] that's the weird thing - it's just "unknown" [00:36] should I just delete it? [00:36] kristian-aalborg, I know unallocated unknow? where [00:37] sorry? [00:37] kristian-aalborg, where does it say unknown [00:37] gparted [00:37] /dev/hda6 [00:38] the partiotion I shrunk [00:38] kristian-aalborg, so it says in the partition line unknown as well as in the gparted window [00:38] yes, I guess so [00:40] kristian-aalborg, I guess the question is can you just afford to reinstall the whole OS are you backed up with what you would want to save movies,media..etc [00:41] whenever im about to do some crazy partitioning [00:41] i try and set the scenario up in virtualbox [00:41] to test [00:41] nit-wit: I can if I don't have a choice I guess [00:41] and learn how to do it [00:41] make sure it'll work [00:42] holstein: trial and error beats your method [00:42] ;) [00:42] trial and what? [00:42] OH... error... ;) [00:42] * holstein is a look before you leap kinda guy [00:43] but i say your not doing it right til you break everything and have to reinstall a couple times [00:43] I guess this could've happened anyway [00:44] I guess I could save my /bin an /sbin? [00:45] kristian-aalborg, there is a program called testdisk you run from the live cd that is a recovery tool I can't really help you in using it, but some find some success to varying levels and the amount of time it takes. It would probably confuse many as it is a muti tool device. here is a link yu would install it with the live cd from synaptic. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk [00:45] nit-wit: the problem is that my cd drive does not like cdroms over 30 gigs or so [00:45] 30 megs, of course [00:45] kristian-aalborg, not sure what you mean there [00:46] it's borked ;) [00:46] kristian-aalborg, your booted on a live cd right [00:46] slitaz livecd... 30 meg [00:47] I got ubuntu on it via netinstall... mini.iso [00:47] kristian-aalborg, oh I see well can you boot a thumb [00:47] nope [00:47] it's a ThinkPad 770... not much fanciness going on [00:48] kristian-aalborg, well with all the limitations it sounds like a new computer or new install. use a external HD to save your stuff to [00:49] nit-wit: I bought this computer just to play with, so no need for another - I have a decent one already for everyday use :) [00:57] Hey [00:57] Why would a shell script give the error "line 7: =: command not found" [00:58] because the command on line 7 is not found [00:59] probably an out of place tick or semicolon or something [00:59] The command exists though, here's that line: $OUTPUT = '/usr/local/bin/base64 -e encrypted';; [00:59] and I know the base64 works [00:59] hmm [01:00] that's inside a case statement too [01:05] mooseBoy: What interpreter is being used? [01:06] um...idk...how do I tell [01:06] I actually found a way around it though [01:06] but I have another question [01:07] mooseBoy: The first line is #!/bin/SOMETHING [01:07] mooseBoy: That SOMETHING is the interpreter [01:07] ummm...i don't have that first line...is that a bad thing [01:08] mooseBoy: Are you told to run the script with a command? like "sh script.sh"? [01:08] mooseBoy: Or "python script.py"? [01:08] I was trying to run it with a ./script [01:08] but im not exactly sure what i'm doing [01:11] mooseBoy: Um, shell scripts can't be run without a shabang (#!) line [01:11] to my knowledge [01:11] mooseBoy: Where did you get the script from? [01:11] I didn't. I was trying to make my own [01:12] mooseBoy: What language is it in> [01:12] ?* [01:13] um just terminal commands [01:13] like echo and stuff [01:13] I think I should have this at the top #!/bin/bash [01:14] That's what I found online [01:14] mooseBoy: Yes, it should. Also, shell scripts don't have semicolons at the end of a line. [01:14] okay [01:14] I think I got it [01:14] another question, how do I echo the output of a command [01:15] like echo whoami without it printing "whoami" out [01:15] mooseBoy: Just don't put a redirect at the end of a line? [01:15] mooseBoy: It shouldn't echo the commands. [01:15] o.O [01:15] i'm confused. Sorry, I'm really really new at this [01:16] mooseBoy: Unless you specify it, BASH will not echo the commands out. [01:16] okay, so how do I make it do that [01:17] maybe I should read through the man page [01:17] mooseBoy: Wait, you WANT it to do that> [01:17] ?* [01:18] I want it to say: "root" when i run "echo whoami" [01:18] mooseBoy: You souldn't be using echo. [01:18] okay, so how else to I output [01:18] *do [01:18] mooseBoy: Just... run the command. [01:19] mooseBoy: A shell script is a series of console commands, nothing special [01:19] Oh wow, I feel dumb now [01:19] haha it works though :D [01:23] thanks for the help though [01:24] mooseBoy: if you want to write more scripts http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is a good read [01:33] hi yofel [01:40] yofel :am making ssh just for learning I made Openssh in Desktop and sysv-rc-conf too and I am opening a book which told me to write in the prompt ssh 192.....and prompt asked for password and I write a password but no connection yet can you teach me why? [01:41] ok, back to step 1 [01:41] you installed openssh-server on your desktop? [01:41] there is something rong or missing I can not [01:41] see this [01:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/543382/ [01:43] forget sysv-rc-conf for now, you don't need that [01:43] fatharrahman__: you username is the same on 192.186.1.2 ? [01:43] from line 42 [01:43] sorry [01:43] no [01:44] line 44 sounds right, but you're trying to login as user fatharrahman on 192.168.1.2 [01:44] 192.168.1.2 is the desk top which I want to connect to [01:44] yes [01:44] what's your user name on .2 ? [01:45] fatherrahman is the laptop host name [01:45] fadul [01:45] fatharrahman is also you *current* username, which is what ssh will use by default as remove username [01:46] so to connect you'll use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2' [01:46] why fadul is where I want to connect to [01:46] from fatharrahman to fadul [01:47] fatharrahman__: as long as you didn't edit hosts, ssh *doesn't* know any host names, so forget those [01:47] so ssh sees 'fadul' as '192.168.1.2' [01:47] and if you give it 'fadul' it'll think: "err... what's that?" [01:47] yes [01:48] fatharrahman__: ok, then what is your USER name on fadul [01:48] fadul is the user name of the desktop [01:49] fatharrahman__: good, then you'll have to tell it to login to user fadul on your desktop, the syntax is 'ssh @', so use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2' [01:50] anyone - i install 2 new themes, they look ok and say installed, but when i go to pick them in ubuntu appearance and they are not there to pick, go to reinstall, and it says they are there, can someone help? when i try to reinstall it says something like cannot copy over folder [01:50] am I rong? [01:50] username @ host? [01:50] using 10.10 [01:51] fatharrahman__: with what? 'ssh 192.168.1.2' is the same as 'ssh fatharrahman@192.168.1.2' and if your desktop doesn't have a user fatharrahman it'll fail [01:51] so you need to tell it which username to use [01:51] JoeSomebody: might have to sudo move the theme [01:51] wherever its suppose to go [01:51] depends on the error? [01:51] am confused yofel [01:52] why does it say 'cannot copy' JoeSomebody ? [01:52] fatharrahman__: what happens if you run: ssh fadul@192.168.1.2 [01:52] JoeSomebody: They are not installed as theme sets, but the individual elements are available under "customize" [01:52] but am running it in fatharrahman and not fadul [01:52] aveilleux: totally ;) [01:53] fatharrahman__: ssh needs to know the username on your *desktop* [01:53] not sure i follow , why is that? [01:53] they are not complete theme sets [01:53] the username of the laptop is fatharrahman how should I change it? [01:53] fatharrahman__: it's like it goes to your desktop asks: is there a user fatharrahman? answer: no, and it doesn't know what to do [01:53] fatharrahman__: so you need to tell it to ask for user fadul [01:54] fatharrahman__: well, please run 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2' and tell me what happens [01:54] fatharrahman__: you shouldn't change any username, you just need to tell ssh which username you used on your desktop [01:55] ok [01:55] it ask for apassword [01:55] fatharrahman__: input password of user fadul [01:55] how do i fix it and redo them right? [01:55] ok then I got it [01:56] JoeSomebody: the theory is that there is nothing to fix [01:56] fatharrahman__: that's essentially the login prompt on your desktop [01:56] JoeSomebody: No. You can't install full theme sets. [01:56] yofel: am sorry [01:56] why cant i ? [01:56] you did it again yofel [01:56] it worrks [01:57] fatharrahman__: good :) [01:57] you are amazing [01:57] :) [01:57] fatharrahman__: I use ssh myself so I know how it works ;) [01:57] how can i remove the two that did not go right? [01:58] JoeSomebody: what did you install? [01:58] and how did you install? [01:58] If you are online I believe I'll never be embarrassed with my computer yofel THANK YOU [01:58] i figure i have to remove them ,and then put one back , and then save it as something , etc. etc, right? [01:58] JoeSomebody, how did you install them ? [01:58] or is the stuff just broke in this version? [01:59] fatharrahman__: just ask here, I'm not the only one that knows a lot ;) [01:59] this was easy in 9.something [01:59] JoeSomebody: link us to what you downloaded [01:59] download in ff, install in default, theme mgr i think [01:59] UndiFineD too ;) [01:59] theme installer maybe [01:59] theme something [01:59] fatharrahman__, ;) [02:00] :) [02:00] JoeSomebody: right [02:00] what page did you go to? [02:00] what file did you download? [02:00] the one suggested in appearance [02:00] ok [02:00] teh first two themes on the list [02:01] the first two themes on the page [02:02] holstein that system is not on the net or irc [02:02] you have the answer [02:02] best i can do [02:03] am connected via ssh to a desktop how can I control and view the desktop of that computer? [02:03] and i dont have 10.10 running JoeSomebody :/ [02:03] let me see what i have in 10.04 [02:03] i remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight [02:03] they looked like they installed [02:03] yet are " not there" [02:03] fatharrahman__: you can't do that over ssh, since ssh is command line only [02:04] JoeSomebody: Have you looked for the theme elements in "Customize"? [02:04] fatharrahman__: VNC does that though, but I don't know much about that [02:04] JoeSomebody: you click on 'get more themes online? [02:04] then you get linked to http://art.gnome.org/themes/ ?? [02:04] right? [02:04] what is the command openinig dektop through ssh [02:05] fatharrahman__: You can't do that. [02:05] holstein yes [02:05] cd /home/you/Desktop [02:05] fatharrahman__: SSH isn't a graphical login. [02:05] the Desktop directory ^^ [02:05] hm [02:05] !vnc [02:05] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [02:05] fatharrahman__: ^ [02:06] JoeSomebody, I have installed one [02:06] JoeSomebody: so, what did you download there? [02:06] [10:03pm] i remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight [02:06] [10:03pm] they looked like they installed [02:06] [10:03pm] yet are " not there" [02:06] aveilleux: cant I view desktop of a computer I already contact with by ssh? [02:07] JoeSomebody, it was a control theme, that aero-ion one [02:07] only control but not seeing? [02:07] fatharrahman__: No. SSH is not a graphical system. [02:07] i am a newbie on linux [02:07] this is something you download, and is then extracted to another directory [02:07] not sure i even get that [02:07] fatharrahman__: ssh is terminal only, you *can* open applications from your other pc on your *current* pc if you use 'ssh -X ...', but not the entire desktop [02:08] well, that maybe too, but you can't control the desktop that's running on the other pc [02:08] in windows a theme is a freakin theme :) [02:08] I got it [02:08] windows theme? [02:08] decorations? [02:08] in windows a theme is one thing [02:08] JoeSomebody: In Linux (or Metacity, more precisely) a theme is a set of different elements put together. [02:08] OH, windows borders? [02:08] JoeSomebody: Just like the rest of the OS. [02:08] so here its many things together? [02:08] may some body please develop an application combine ssh and vnc ? :) [02:09] fatharrahman__: lol [02:09] fatharrahman__: Why would you need to? VNC is graphical, SSH is command-line. [02:09] is canon pretty compatible with ubuntu overall? [02:09] *printers [02:09] so how do i get a whole theme installed at once, dont [02:09] Cheri703: depends [02:09] so how do i get a whole theme installed at once, i dont? [02:09] fatharrahman__: that guide ubot2 posted mentions ssh with vnc too [02:10] pretty much have to google around, or just try it Cheri703 :) [02:10] JoeSomebody: You can install all of the elements at once, but Ubuntu doesn't automatically put them together for you. [02:10] I'm looking for a new printer, and I won't get an hp, and I know lexmark is out, I've heard brother is decent with linux support, and *some* epsons [02:10] aveilleux we are linux fans we want to make live easier so I call for that [02:10] * holstein has had good luck with brother [02:10] aveilleux: in this case ssh is to encrypt the data vnc is transmitting [02:10] fatharrahman__: well, it's already doable, read the guide [02:10] holstein: that's where I'm leaning right now, just have to figure out which one [02:10] so i was hoiping to look at some popular linux themes , what you just told me has me wondering if i even can [02:11] JoeSomebody: It's.... not that hard of a system to use. [02:11] Cheri703: save the recipts [02:11] just in case [02:12] is there some illustrated books on themes? [02:12] you can goodle the model though and see [02:12] or faq or doc or something [02:12] yofel: ubot2 is not posting any more ;) [02:12] HP has linux drivers right on the site [02:12] brother has some too AFAIK [02:12] fatharrahman__: well, read the one line it posted :P [02:12] which guide? [02:12] I refuse to get another hp [02:12] !vnc | fatharrahman__ [02:12] fatharrahman__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [02:12] fatharrahman__: ubot2 is a bot. It responds to keywords in the channel. [02:12] i'll probably get another brother when the time comes [02:13] i have an epson that works too [02:14] I dont understand what bot exactly mean and how uou control this thing [02:14] JoeSomebody: http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/10/12-themes-for-ubuntu-1010.html [02:14] theres some fancy looking themes that im not going to ever try [02:14] I am reading the guide now [02:15] ive always just downloaded the parts i wanted and used them [02:15] the icons or whatever i want [02:15] JoeSomebody: there are a lot of options for theming [02:15] fatharrahman__: bot is short for robot [02:15] !me | fatharrahman__ [02:15] fatharrahman__: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-beginners's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [02:15] how to make vino-preferences start automatically at start up [02:15] fatharrahman__: read the Usage info, that has information how to use the bot [02:15] fatharrahman__: it should be persistent [02:16] the settings there [02:16] yofel: did you set ubot2 up? [02:17] ubot2 is a supybot right? [02:17] holstein: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:17] yah [02:17] holstein: no, from the bot list jpds owns it [02:17] I asked a Q and he was explaining [02:17] * holstein is setting up a supybot to replace a phennybot [02:17] is bot working alone ? [02:17] holstein: if you have a question about the bot jpds as at least in #ubuntu-bugs [02:18] s/as/is/ [02:18] am sorry I thouh yofel did it [02:18] yofel: i dont have anything specific yet [02:18] im still RTFM-in [02:18] g [02:19] you guys know all about themes, is there a channel for themes, or some sort of a guide? [02:19] i would say there are guides out there [02:19] i hvea ubuntu book but its way outa date now [02:20] depends on where you get them from [02:20] fatharrahman__: the bot is a program running by itself, usually you're just querying it's database about stuff it knows [02:20] and what verions of things you are running [02:20] gnome, etc.. [02:20] mp3 [02:20] JoeSomebody: best way is just asking [02:20] JoeSomebody: did you try in #ubuntu? maybe someone there knows [02:20] 'i downloaded this file from this site, how do i install it' [02:21] yeah i asked there first, they sent me here [02:21] :/ [02:21] they don't seem to answer newbie questions lately for me, they used to [02:21] yofel do you mean if write some of what is under factoid the bot answer? [02:22] how old is this chan? i didnt know about it [02:22] you need a ! prolly [02:22] !something [02:22] Factoid 'something' not found [02:22] fatharrahman__: as holstein said [02:22] !nautilus [02:22] Factoid 'nautilus' not found [02:22] !ssh [02:22] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [02:22] ahhhhhhhha [02:22] !vino [02:22] Factoid 'vino' not found [02:22] I got it [02:23] :/ [02:23] !ask [02:23] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [02:23] !info vino [02:23] wow [02:23] wow [02:23] yofel: vino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 159 kB, installed size 512 kB [02:23] AH [02:23] there it is :) [02:23] !info nautilus [02:23] holstein: nautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 1138 kB, installed size 3036 kB [02:23] "!info" queries the package database [02:24] :) [02:24] acutally the syntax is: '!info ' [02:24] !info xserver-xorg-core natty [02:24] yofel: xserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.9.0.902-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1453 kB, installed size 3724 kB [02:24] wow you guys living in a totally different world [02:24] the current stable release is the default [02:25] fatharrahman__: stay with us for a few months and you'll know a lot too ;) [02:25] !grub hardy [02:25] Factoid 'grub hardy' not found [02:25] !info grub hardy [02:25] holstein: grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu21.2 (hardy), package size 376 kB, installed size 836 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all) [02:25] COOL [02:26] yofel: Thank you you and holstien are amazing and very kind people [02:26] !info unity natty [02:26] what is 10.10 called? [02:26] holstein: unity (source: unity): Unity Interface for Ubuntu Netbook Edition. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.46-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 125 kB, installed size 484 kB [02:26] JoeSomebody: maverick meerkat [02:26] !holstein thnk you [02:26] fatharrahman__: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:27] !info userguide maverick [02:27] fatharrahman__: anytime [02:27] JoeSomebody: Package userguide does not exist in maverick [02:27] fatharrahman__, holstein: you can also talk to the bot in private, there without the !: /msg ubot2 [02:27] JoeSomebody: it would be a package in the OS [02:27] :) [02:27] yofel: i have my bot querried [02:27] to do admin tasks [02:28] took me a while to get it to announce [02:28] and i dont have factiods set up at all [02:28] !info theme manager maverick [02:28] JoeSomebody: 'manager' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid, maverick, natty [02:28] hmmm [02:28] coffee break [02:29] JoeSomebody: one thing that is confusing the bot [02:29] a package name wont have any spaces [02:29] theme-manager [02:29] IF there is a theme-manager package [02:29]