[00:11] <kristian-aalborg> deejoe: I managed to bork it :/
[00:12] <kristian-aalborg> ran gparted from a livecd... it resized the ext4 okay, then gave an error
[00:12] <holstein> whats the error?
[00:12] <kristian-aalborg> hi holstein
[00:12] <holstein> o?
[00:12] <holstein> o/
[00:12] <holstein> *
[00:12] <holstein> hey :)
[00:13] <kristian-aalborg> it was after it had done the resizing the error came... I don't remember, tbh
[00:13] <kristian-aalborg> also:           \m/
[00:14] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, did you have the swap off
[00:14] <kristian-aalborg> yes
[00:14] <kristian-aalborg> so, I could not boot.... it said I have to run fsck manually.... so I boot in failsafe, and skips the mounting of /home (the broken partition)
[00:14] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, everything was unmounted?
[00:15] <kristian-aalborg> it should be... getting doubts now, though
[00:15] <kristian-aalborg> but, now I booted to failsafe... and I can't run fsck
[00:16] <kristian-aalborg> I can run it, but I get a huge warning
[00:17] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, from the live cd everything unmounted sudo fsck /dev/(partition needingfsck)
[00:31] <kristian-aalborg> hi again
[00:31] <kristian-aalborg> the livecd does not have fsck :(
[00:31] <kristian-aalborg> however, I'm on it now - gparted says "unknown" for the faulty partition
[00:33] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, you could try testdisk what was there can you loose it?
[00:33] <kristian-aalborg> it was /homw
[00:34] <kristian-aalborg> ... /home, of course
[00:34] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, you can't run a fsck on a unallocated
[00:35] <kristian-aalborg> that's the weird thing - it's just "unknown"
[00:36] <kristian-aalborg> should I just delete it?
[00:36] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, I know unallocated unknow? where
[00:37] <kristian-aalborg> sorry?
[00:37] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, where does it say unknown
[00:37] <kristian-aalborg> gparted
[00:37] <kristian-aalborg> /dev/hda6
[00:38] <kristian-aalborg> the partiotion I shrunk
[00:38] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, so it says in the partition line unknown as well as in the gparted window
[00:38] <kristian-aalborg> yes, I guess so
[00:40] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, I guess the question is can you just afford to reinstall the whole OS are you backed up with what you would want to save movies,media..etc
[00:41] <holstein> whenever im about to do some crazy partitioning
[00:41] <holstein> i try and set the scenario up in virtualbox
[00:41] <holstein> to test
[00:41] <kristian-aalborg> nit-wit: I can if I don't have a choice I guess
[00:41] <holstein> and learn how to do it
[00:41] <holstein> make sure it'll work
[00:42] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: trial and error beats your method
[00:42] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[00:42] <holstein> trial and what?
[00:42] <holstein> OH... error... ;)
[00:42]  * holstein is a look before you leap kinda guy
[00:43] <holstein> but i say your not doing it right til you break everything and have to reinstall a couple times
[00:43] <kristian-aalborg> I guess this could've happened anyway
[00:44] <kristian-aalborg> I guess I could save my /bin an /sbin?
[00:45] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, there is a program called testdisk you run from the live cd that is a recovery tool I can't really help you in using it, but some find some success to varying levels and the amount of time it takes. It would probably confuse many as it is a muti tool device. here is a link yu would install it with the live cd from synaptic. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[00:45] <kristian-aalborg> nit-wit: the problem is that my cd drive does not like cdroms over 30 gigs or so
[00:45] <kristian-aalborg> 30 megs, of course
[00:45] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, not sure what you mean there
[00:46] <kristian-aalborg> it's borked ;)
[00:46] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, your booted on a live cd right
[00:46] <kristian-aalborg> slitaz livecd... 30 meg
[00:47] <kristian-aalborg> I got ubuntu on it via netinstall... mini.iso
[00:47] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, oh I see well can you boot a thumb
[00:47] <kristian-aalborg> nope
[00:47] <kristian-aalborg> it's a ThinkPad 770... not much fanciness going on
[00:48] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, well with all the limitations it sounds like a new computer or new install. use a external HD to save your stuff to
[00:49] <kristian-aalborg> nit-wit: I bought this computer just to play with, so no need for another - I have a decent one already for everyday use :)
[00:57] <mooseBoy> Hey
[00:57] <mooseBoy> Why would a shell script give the error "line 7: =: command not found"
[00:58] <Bizurke> because the command on line 7 is not found
[00:59] <Bizurke> probably an out of place tick or semicolon or something
[00:59] <mooseBoy> The command exists though, here's that line: $OUTPUT = '/usr/local/bin/base64 -e encrypted';;
[00:59] <mooseBoy> and I know the base64 works
[00:59] <Bizurke> hmm
[01:00] <mooseBoy> that's inside a case statement too
[01:05] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: What interpreter is being used?
[01:06] <mooseBoy> um...idk...how do I tell
[01:06] <mooseBoy> I actually found a way around it though
[01:06] <mooseBoy> but I have another question
[01:07] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: The first line is #!/bin/SOMETHING
[01:07] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: That SOMETHING is the interpreter
[01:07] <mooseBoy> ummm...i don't have that first line...is that a bad thing
[01:08] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Are you told to run the script with a command? like "sh script.sh"?
[01:08] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Or "python script.py"?
[01:08] <mooseBoy> I was trying to run it with a ./script
[01:08] <mooseBoy> but im not exactly sure what i'm doing
[01:11] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Um, shell scripts can't be run without a shabang (#!) line
[01:11] <aveilleux> to my knowledge
[01:11] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Where did you get the script from?
[01:11] <mooseBoy> I didn't. I was trying to make my own
[01:12] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: What language is it in>
[01:12] <aveilleux> ?*
[01:13] <mooseBoy> um just terminal commands
[01:13] <mooseBoy> like echo and stuff
[01:13] <mooseBoy> I think I should have this at the top #!/bin/bash
[01:14] <mooseBoy> That's what I found online
[01:14] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Yes, it should. Also, shell scripts don't have semicolons at the end of a line.
[01:14] <mooseBoy> okay
[01:14] <mooseBoy> I think I got it
[01:14] <mooseBoy> another question, how do I echo the output of a command
[01:15] <mooseBoy> like echo whoami without it printing "whoami" out
[01:15] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Just don't put a redirect at the end of a line?
[01:15] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: It shouldn't echo the commands.
[01:15] <mooseBoy> o.O
[01:15] <mooseBoy> i'm confused. Sorry, I'm really really new at this
[01:16] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Unless you specify it, BASH will not echo the commands out.
[01:16] <mooseBoy> okay, so how do I make it do that
[01:17] <mooseBoy> maybe I should read through the man page
[01:17] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Wait, you WANT it to do that>
[01:17] <aveilleux> ?*
[01:18] <mooseBoy> I want it to say: "root" when i run "echo whoami"
[01:18] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: You souldn't be using echo.
[01:18] <mooseBoy> okay, so how else to I output
[01:18] <mooseBoy> *do
[01:18] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: Just... run the command.
[01:19] <aveilleux> mooseBoy: A shell script is a series of console commands, nothing special
[01:19] <mooseBoy> Oh wow, I feel dumb now
[01:19] <mooseBoy> haha it works though :D
[01:23] <mooseBoy> thanks for the help though
[01:24] <yofel> mooseBoy: if you want to write more scripts http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is a good read
[01:33] <fatharrahman__> hi yofel
[01:40] <fatharrahman__> yofel :am making ssh just for learning I made Openssh in Desktop and sysv-rc-conf too and I am opening a book which told me to write in the prompt ssh 192.....and prompt asked for password and I write a password but no connection yet can you teach me why?
[01:41] <yofel> ok, back to step 1
[01:41] <yofel> you installed openssh-server on your desktop?
[01:41] <fatharrahman__> there is something rong or missing I can not
[01:41] <fatharrahman__> see this
[01:42] <fatharrahman__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/543382/
[01:43] <yofel> forget sysv-rc-conf for now, you don't need that
[01:43] <yofel> fatharrahman__: you username is the same on 192.186.1.2 ?
[01:43] <fatharrahman__> from line 42
[01:43] <fatharrahman__> sorry
[01:43] <fatharrahman__> no
[01:44] <yofel> line 44 sounds right, but you're trying to login as user fatharrahman on 192.168.1.2
[01:44] <fatharrahman__> 192.168.1.2 is the desk top which I want to connect to
[01:44] <fatharrahman__> yes
[01:44] <yofel> what's your user name on .2 ?
[01:45] <fatharrahman__> fatherrahman is the laptop host name
[01:45] <fatharrahman__> fadul
[01:45] <yofel> fatharrahman is also you *current* username, which is what ssh will use by default as remove username
[01:46] <yofel> so to connect you'll use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2'
[01:46] <fatharrahman__> why fadul is where I want to connect to
[01:46] <fatharrahman__> from fatharrahman to fadul
[01:47] <yofel> fatharrahman__: as long as you didn't edit hosts, ssh *doesn't* know any host names, so forget those
[01:47] <yofel> so ssh sees 'fadul' as '192.168.1.2'
[01:47] <yofel> and if you give it 'fadul' it'll think: "err... what's that?"
[01:47] <fatharrahman__> yes
[01:48] <yofel> fatharrahman__: ok, then what is your USER name on fadul
[01:48] <fatharrahman__> fadul is the user name of the desktop
[01:49] <yofel> fatharrahman__: good, then you'll have to tell it to login to user fadul on your desktop, the syntax is 'ssh <username>@<host>', so use 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2'
[01:50] <JoeSomebody> anyone - i install 2 new themes, they look ok and say installed, but when i go to pick them in ubuntu appearance and they are not there to pick, go to reinstall, and it says they are there, can someone help? when i try to reinstall it says something like cannot copy over folder
[01:50] <fatharrahman__> am I rong?
[01:50] <fatharrahman__> username @ host?
[01:50] <JoeSomebody> using 10.10
[01:51] <yofel> fatharrahman__: with what? 'ssh 192.168.1.2' is the same as 'ssh fatharrahman@192.168.1.2' and if your desktop doesn't have a user fatharrahman it'll fail
[01:51] <yofel> so you need to tell it which username to use
[01:51] <holstein> JoeSomebody: might have to sudo move the theme
[01:51] <holstein> wherever its suppose to go
[01:51] <holstein> depends on the error?
[01:51] <fatharrahman__> am confused yofel
[01:52] <holstein> why does it say 'cannot copy' JoeSomebody ?
[01:52] <yofel> fatharrahman__: what happens if you run: ssh fadul@192.168.1.2
[01:52] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: They are not installed as theme sets, but the individual elements are available under "customize"
[01:52] <fatharrahman__> but am running it in fatharrahman and not fadul
[01:52] <holstein> aveilleux: totally ;)
[01:53] <yofel> fatharrahman__: ssh needs to know the username on your *desktop*
[01:53] <JoeSomebody> not sure i follow , why is that?
[01:53] <holstein> they are not complete theme sets
[01:53] <fatharrahman__> the username of the laptop is fatharrahman how should I change it?
[01:53] <yofel> fatharrahman__: it's like it goes to your desktop asks: is there a user fatharrahman? answer: no, and it doesn't know what to do
[01:53] <yofel> fatharrahman__: so you need to tell it to ask for user fadul
[01:54] <yofel> fatharrahman__: well, please run 'ssh fadul@192.168.1.2' and tell me what happens
[01:54] <yofel> fatharrahman__: you shouldn't change any username, you just need to tell ssh which username you used on your desktop
[01:55] <fatharrahman__> ok
[01:55] <fatharrahman__> it ask for apassword
[01:55] <yofel> fatharrahman__: input password of user fadul
[01:55] <JoeSomebody> how do i fix it and redo them right?
[01:55] <fatharrahman__> ok then I got it
[01:56] <holstein> JoeSomebody: the theory is that there is nothing to fix
[01:56] <yofel> fatharrahman__: that's essentially the login prompt on your desktop
[01:56] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: No. You can't install full theme sets.
[01:56] <fatharrahman__> yofel: am sorry
[01:56] <JoeSomebody> why cant i ?
[01:56] <fatharrahman__> you did it again yofel
[01:56] <fatharrahman__> it worrks
[01:57] <yofel> fatharrahman__: good :)
[01:57] <fatharrahman__> you are amazing
[01:57] <fatharrahman__> :)
[01:57] <yofel> fatharrahman__: I use ssh myself so I know how it works ;)
[01:57] <JoeSomebody> how can i remove the two that did not go right?
[01:58] <holstein> JoeSomebody: what did you install?
[01:58] <holstein> and how did you install?
[01:58] <fatharrahman__> If you are online I believe I'll never be embarrassed  with my computer yofel THANK YOU
[01:58] <JoeSomebody> i figure i have to remove them ,and then put one back , and then save it as something , etc. etc, right?
[01:58] <UndiFineD> JoeSomebody, how did you install them ?
[01:58] <JoeSomebody> or is the stuff just broke in this version?
[01:59] <yofel> fatharrahman__: just ask here, I'm not the only one that knows a lot ;)
[01:59] <JoeSomebody> this was easy in 9.something
[01:59] <holstein> JoeSomebody: link us to what you downloaded
[01:59] <JoeSomebody> download in ff, install in default, theme mgr i think
[01:59] <fatharrahman__> UndiFineD too ;)
[01:59] <JoeSomebody> theme installer maybe
[01:59] <JoeSomebody> theme something
[01:59] <UndiFineD> fatharrahman__, ;)
[02:00] <fatharrahman__> :)
[02:00] <holstein> JoeSomebody: right
[02:00] <holstein> what page did you go to?
[02:00] <holstein> what file did you download?
[02:00] <JoeSomebody> the one suggested in appearance
[02:00] <UndiFineD> ok
[02:00] <JoeSomebody> teh first two themes on the list
[02:01] <JoeSomebody> the first two themes on the page
[02:02] <JoeSomebody> holstein that system is not on the net or irc
[02:02] <JoeSomebody> you have the answer
[02:02] <JoeSomebody> best i can do
[02:03] <fatharrahman__> am connected via ssh to a desktop how can I control and view the desktop of that computer?
[02:03] <holstein> and i dont have 10.10 running JoeSomebody :/
[02:03] <holstein> let me see what i have in 10.04
[02:03] <JoeSomebody> i remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight
[02:03] <JoeSomebody> they looked like they installed
[02:03] <JoeSomebody> yet are " not there"
[02:03] <yofel> fatharrahman__: you can't do that over ssh, since ssh is command line only
[02:04] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: Have you looked for the theme elements in "Customize"?
[02:04] <yofel> fatharrahman__: VNC does that though, but I don't know much about that
[02:04] <holstein> JoeSomebody: you click on 'get more themes online?
[02:04] <holstein> then you get linked to http://art.gnome.org/themes/ ??
[02:04] <holstein> right?
[02:04] <fatharrahman__> what is the command openinig dektop through ssh
[02:05] <aveilleux> fatharrahman__: You can't do that.
[02:05] <JoeSomebody> holstein yes
[02:05] <holstein> cd /home/you/Desktop
[02:05] <aveilleux> fatharrahman__: SSH isn't a graphical login.
[02:05] <holstein> the Desktop directory ^^
[02:05] <yofel> hm
[02:05] <yofel> !vnc
[02:05] <ubot2> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:05] <yofel> fatharrahman__: ^
[02:06] <UndiFineD> JoeSomebody, I have installed one
[02:06] <holstein> JoeSomebody: so, what did you download there?
[02:06] <JoeSomebody> [10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> i remember the first two themes on the first page, aero-ion and cillop midnight
[02:06] <JoeSomebody> [10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> they looked like they installed
[02:06] <JoeSomebody> [10:03pm] <JoeSomebody> yet are " not there"
[02:06] <fatharrahman__> aveilleux: cant I view desktop of a computer I already contact with by ssh?
[02:07] <UndiFineD> JoeSomebody, it was a control theme, that aero-ion one
[02:07] <fatharrahman__> only control but not seeing?
[02:07] <aveilleux> fatharrahman__: No. SSH is not a graphical system.
[02:07] <JoeSomebody> i am a newbie on linux
[02:07] <UndiFineD> this is something you download, and is then extracted to another directory
[02:07] <JoeSomebody> not sure i even get that
[02:07] <yofel> fatharrahman__: ssh is terminal only, you *can* open applications from your other pc on your *current* pc if you use 'ssh -X ...', but not the entire desktop
[02:08] <yofel> well, that maybe too, but you can't control the desktop that's running on the other pc
[02:08] <JoeSomebody> in windows a theme is a freakin theme :)
[02:08] <fatharrahman__> I got it
[02:08] <holstein> windows theme?
[02:08] <holstein> decorations?
[02:08] <JoeSomebody> in windows a theme is one thing
[02:08] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: In Linux (or Metacity, more precisely) a theme is a set of different elements put together.
[02:08] <holstein> OH, windows borders?
[02:08] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: Just like the rest of the OS.
[02:08] <JoeSomebody> so here its many things together?
[02:08] <fatharrahman__> may some body please develop an application combine ssh and vnc ?  :)
[02:09] <holstein> fatharrahman__: lol
[02:09] <aveilleux> fatharrahman__: Why would you need to? VNC is graphical, SSH is command-line.
[02:09] <Cheri703> is canon pretty compatible with ubuntu overall?
[02:09] <Cheri703> *printers
[02:09] <JoeSomebody> so how do i get a whole theme installed at once, dont
[02:09] <holstein> Cheri703: depends
[02:09] <JoeSomebody> so how do i get a whole theme installed at once, i dont?
[02:09] <yofel> fatharrahman__: that guide ubot2 posted mentions ssh with vnc too
[02:10] <holstein> pretty much have to google around, or just try it Cheri703 :)
[02:10] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: You can install all of the elements at once, but Ubuntu doesn't automatically put them together for you.
[02:10] <Cheri703> I'm looking for a new printer, and I won't get an hp, and I know lexmark is out, I've heard brother is decent with linux support, and *some* epsons
[02:10] <fatharrahman__> aveilleux we are linux fans we want to make live easier so I call for that
[02:10]  * holstein has had good luck with brother
[02:10] <yofel> aveilleux: in this case ssh is to encrypt the data vnc is transmitting
[02:10] <yofel> fatharrahman__: well, it's already doable, read the guide
[02:10] <Cheri703> holstein: that's where I'm leaning right now, just have to figure out which one
[02:10] <JoeSomebody> so i was hoiping to look at some popular linux themes , what you just told me has me wondering if i even can
[02:11] <aveilleux> JoeSomebody: It's.... not that hard of a system to use.
[02:11] <holstein> Cheri703: save the recipts
[02:11] <holstein> just in case
[02:12] <JoeSomebody> is there some illustrated books on themes?
[02:12] <holstein> you can goodle the model though and see
[02:12] <JoeSomebody> or faq or doc or something
[02:12] <fatharrahman__> yofel: ubot2 is not posting any more ;)
[02:12] <holstein> HP has linux drivers right on the site
[02:12] <holstein> brother has some too AFAIK
[02:12] <yofel> fatharrahman__: well, read the one line it posted :P
[02:12] <fatharrahman__> which guide?
[02:12] <Cheri703> I refuse to get another hp
[02:12] <yofel> !vnc | fatharrahman__
[02:12] <ubot2> fatharrahman__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:12] <aveilleux> fatharrahman__: ubot2 is a bot. It responds to keywords in the channel.
[02:12] <holstein> i'll probably get another brother when the time comes
[02:13] <holstein> i have an epson that works too
[02:14] <fatharrahman__> I dont understand what bot exactly mean  and how uou control this thing
[02:14] <holstein> JoeSomebody: http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/10/12-themes-for-ubuntu-1010.html
[02:14] <holstein> theres some fancy looking themes that im not going to ever try
[02:14] <fatharrahman__> I am reading the guide now
[02:15] <holstein> ive always just downloaded the parts i wanted and used them
[02:15] <holstein> the icons or whatever i want
[02:15] <holstein> JoeSomebody: there are a lot of options for theming
[02:15] <yofel> fatharrahman__: bot is short for robot
[02:15] <yofel> !me | fatharrahman__
[02:15] <ubot2> fatharrahman__: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-beginners's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[02:15] <fatharrahman__> how to make vino-preferences start automatically at start up
[02:15] <yofel> fatharrahman__: read the Usage info, that has information how to use the bot
[02:15] <holstein> fatharrahman__: it should be persistent
[02:16] <holstein> the settings there
[02:16] <holstein> yofel: did you set ubot2 up?
[02:17] <holstein>   ubot2 is a supybot right?
[02:17] <ubot2> holstein: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:17] <fatharrahman__> yah
[02:17] <yofel> holstein: no, from the bot list jpds owns it
[02:17] <fatharrahman__> I asked a Q and he was explaining
[02:17]  * holstein is setting up a supybot to replace a phennybot
[02:17] <fatharrahman__> is bot working alone ?
[02:17] <yofel> holstein: if you have a question about the bot jpds as at least in #ubuntu-bugs
[02:18] <yofel> s/as/is/
[02:18] <fatharrahman__> am sorry I thouh yofel did it
[02:18] <holstein> yofel: i dont have anything specific yet
[02:18] <holstein> im still RTFM-in
[02:18] <holstein> g
[02:19] <JoeSomebody> you guys know all about themes, is there a channel for themes, or some sort of a guide?
[02:19] <holstein> i would say there are guides out there
[02:19] <JoeSomebody> i hvea ubuntu book but its way outa date now
[02:20] <holstein> depends on where you get them from
[02:20] <yofel> fatharrahman__: the bot is a program running by itself, usually you're just querying it's database about stuff it knows
[02:20] <holstein> and what verions of things you are running
[02:20] <holstein> gnome, etc..
[02:20] <fatharrahman__> mp3
[02:20] <holstein> JoeSomebody: best way is just asking
[02:20] <yofel> JoeSomebody: did you try in #ubuntu? maybe someone there knows
[02:20] <holstein> 'i downloaded this file from this site, how do i install it'
[02:21] <JoeSomebody> yeah i asked there first, they sent me here
[02:21] <yofel> :/
[02:21] <JoeSomebody> they don't seem to answer newbie questions lately for me, they used to
[02:21] <fatharrahman__> yofel do you mean if write some of what is under factoid the bot answer?
[02:22] <JoeSomebody> how old is this chan? i didnt know about it
[02:22] <holstein> you need a ! prolly
[02:22] <holstein> !something
[02:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'something' not found
[02:22] <yofel> fatharrahman__: as holstein said
[02:22] <holstein> !nautilus
[02:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'nautilus' not found
[02:22] <yofel> !ssh
[02:22] <ubot2> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[02:22] <fatharrahman__> ahhhhhhhha
[02:22] <holstein> !vino
[02:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'vino' not found
[02:22] <fatharrahman__> I got it
[02:23] <holstein> :/
[02:23] <fatharrahman__> !ask
[02:23] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[02:23] <yofel> !info vino
[02:23] <fatharrahman__> wow
[02:23] <fatharrahman__> wow
[02:23] <ubot2> yofel: vino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 159 kB, installed size 512 kB
[02:23] <holstein> AH
[02:23] <holstein> there it is :)
[02:23] <holstein> !info nautilus
[02:23] <ubot2> holstein: nautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 1138 kB, installed size 3036 kB
[02:23] <yofel> "!info" queries the package database
[02:24] <holstein> :)
[02:24] <yofel> acutally the syntax is: '!info <package> <release>'
[02:24] <yofel> !info xserver-xorg-core natty
[02:24] <ubot2> yofel: xserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.9.0.902-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1453 kB, installed size 3724 kB
[02:24] <fatharrahman__> wow you guys living in a totally different world
[02:24] <yofel> the current stable release is the default
[02:25] <yofel> fatharrahman__: stay with us for a few months and you'll know a lot too ;)
[02:25] <holstein> !grub hardy
[02:25] <ubot2> Factoid 'grub hardy' not found
[02:25] <holstein> !info grub hardy
[02:25] <ubot2> holstein: grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu21.2 (hardy), package size 376 kB, installed size 836 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all)
[02:25] <holstein> COOL
[02:26] <fatharrahman__> yofel: Thank you you and holstien are amazing and very kind people
[02:26] <holstein> !info unity natty
[02:26] <JoeSomebody> what is 10.10 called?
[02:26] <ubot2> holstein: unity (source: unity): Unity Interface for Ubuntu Netbook Edition. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.46-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 125 kB, installed size 484 kB
[02:26] <yofel> JoeSomebody: maverick meerkat
[02:26] <fatharrahman__> !holstein thnk you
[02:26] <ubot2> fatharrahman__: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:27] <JoeSomebody> !info userguide maverick
[02:27] <holstein> fatharrahman__: anytime
[02:27] <ubot2> JoeSomebody: Package userguide does not exist in maverick
[02:27] <yofel> fatharrahman__, holstein: you can also talk to the bot in private, there without the !: /msg ubot2 <factoid>
[02:27] <holstein> JoeSomebody: it would be a package in the OS
[02:27] <fatharrahman__> :)
[02:27] <holstein> yofel: i have my bot querried
[02:27] <holstein> to do admin tasks
[02:28] <holstein> took me a while to get it to announce
[02:28] <holstein> and i dont have factiods set up at all
[02:28] <JoeSomebody> !info theme manager maverick
[02:28] <ubot2> JoeSomebody: 'manager' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid, maverick, natty
[02:28] <JoeSomebody> hmmm
[02:28] <JoeSomebody> coffee break
[02:29] <holstein> JoeSomebody: one thing that is confusing the bot
[02:29] <holstein> a package name wont have any spaces
[02:29] <holstein> theme-manager
[02:29] <holstein> IF there is a theme-manager package
[02:29] <holstein> the bot is expecting !info
[02:29] <holstein> then the package name
[02:29] <holstein> then the release
[02:29] <holstein> the spaces mean something
[02:30] <holstein> !info gnome-apperance-properties maverick
[02:30] <ubot2> holstein: Package gnome-apperance-properties does not exist in maverick
[02:30] <holstein> !info gnome-appearance-properties maverick
[02:31] <ubot2> holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick
[02:31] <holstein> !info gnome-appearance-properties
[02:31] <ubot2> holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick
[02:31] <holstein> hmmm
[02:31] <UndiFineD> JoeSomebody, there is an ubuntu manual
[02:31] <holstein> !info gnome-appearance-properties
[02:31] <ubot2> holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in maverick
[02:31] <UndiFineD> !manual
[02:31] <ubot2> The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[02:32] <holstein> !info gnome-appearance-properties lucid
[02:32] <ubot2> holstein: Package gnome-appearance-properties does not exist in lucid
[02:32] <UndiFineD> !appearance
[02:32] <ubot2> Factoid 'appearance' not found
[02:32] <holstein> eh
[02:32] <UndiFineD> !themes
[02:32] <ubot2> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:32] <holstein> its not an exact science :)
[02:35] <fatharrahman__> yofel: before say good night  give me on command to shutdown fadul@192. using ssh
[02:35] <holstein> exit
[02:35] <holstein> OH
[02:35] <holstein> to shut it down remotely
[02:35] <fatharrahman__> no holstein
[02:35] <fatharrahman__> yes
[02:35] <yofel> fatharrahman__: to logout from your desktop 'exit' or press ctrl+d, to shutdown, 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[02:35] <holstein> sudo shutdown -n now
[02:36]  * holstein just found that ctrl+d like yesterday ;)
[02:36] <yofel> holstein: shutdown has no -n option
[02:36] <holstein> sudo shutdown -h now **
[02:36] <holstein> yeah, like -h = halt right?
[02:37] <fatharrahman__> holstein ,yofel,UndiFineD   Good Night
[02:37] <holstein> fatharrahman__: GN
[02:37] <yofel> gn
[02:37] <JoeSomebody> UndiFineD that is Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 , i have that and havent used it yet, as i have 10.10 and want a full manual, should i us eit anyway, or perhaps that is all there is so far?
[02:37] <yofel> holstein: -h is actually: halt or power off (depends on the system)
[02:38] <holstein> i think youll be OK with a 10.04 manual in 10.10
[02:38] <UndiFineD> the 10.04 manual is often good enogh for 10.10
[02:38] <JoeSomebody> ok sweet
[02:38] <yofel> holstein: -H would be halt and -P is power off, but -h is what everone uses usually
[02:38] <UndiFineD> the next manual would be 11.04 anyway
[02:38] <holstein> yofel: OH yeah
[02:39] <holstein> i read that
[02:39] <holstein> the -H option
[02:39] <holstein> didnt try -P
[02:39] <holstein> -h is the one that worked for me :)
[02:39] <JoeSomebody> lots of windows books around, but not so much on ubuntu, i will buy it even :)
[02:40] <holstein> JoeSomebody: its challenging to create such a book
[02:40] <holstein> lots of changes happening
[02:40] <holstein> not so much with the core usually
[02:40] <holstein> but making that end-all beginner book would be a challening
[02:40] <holstein> challenge*
[02:45] <holstein> anyone using wicd ?
[02:45] <holstein> wicd-curses
[02:46] <holstein> i was thinking that would be a handy tool
[02:46] <hajour> hai holstein
[02:46] <holstein> hajour: hello
[02:46] <hajour> its almost 4.00 in night here
[02:46] <holstein> AH
[02:46] <holstein> 10p here
[02:47] <hajour> where got you a problem with holstein ?
[02:48] <holstein> no problems right now :)
[02:48] <holstein> so far
[02:49] <hajour> if you want to chat just talk.you can better go to #ubuntu-beginners-team
[02:49] <hajour> this channel is only for if you got problems with a program ore something like that
[02:50] <Cheri703> I think he's hanging out to help hajour
[02:50] <hajour> o ok sorry
[02:50] <hajour> thought he was a new comer
[02:50] <holstein> i was, i was just trying to catch a natural lag in conversation
[02:50] <holstein> and see if somebody was using wicd-curses for something useful
[02:51] <holstein> hajour: i havent been here in a while
[02:51] <Cheri703> no problem hajour :)
[02:51] <hajour> ok .i am here just 2 weeks .i was just trying to help.:)
[02:51] <holstein> thanks
[02:52] <hajour> your welcome.:)
[02:58] <Cheri703> one thing that is a good and bad thing about ubuntu: you can't (or at least not easily) create dummy printers to test drivers
[02:58] <Cheri703> it wants an actual one to verify with
[02:59] <Cheri703> in windows I can create them and play with the drivers all I want
[02:59] <Cheri703> holstein: I'm looking at the epson stylus nx625...has auto duplexing, which is a major plus for me
[03:00] <JoeSomebody> that reminds me, does ubuntu have anything like windows driver verifier?
[03:00] <holstein> looks good Cheri703
[03:01] <Cheri703> I work with xerox machines all day, so I lust after one of the big $30,000 office machines, with the finishers and such, but...not going to happen :/
[03:01] <holstein> my older stylus that i forget the model #
[03:01] <holstein> out of the box support
[03:01] <holstein> JoeSomebody: not really
[03:02] <holstein> most drivers are in the kernel
[03:02] <holstein> and other drivers you would choose to install
[03:02] <holstein> you'll be able to 'verify' on your own
[03:02] <JoeSomebody> actually, sounds superior to windows (again)
[03:03] <holstein> just different
[03:03] <holstein> i mean, i think its superior ;)
[03:03] <holstein> but im not dogging other folk's preferences
[03:04] <JoeSomebody> windows has all these wrong drivers somehow, maybe windows shoudl have them built in too
[03:04] <JoeSomebody> well i must crack the book open ...
[03:05] <JoeSomebody> thanks all
[03:05] <holstein> JoeSomebody: laterx :)
[03:19] <asterismo> hello everybody
[03:22] <asterismo> does anybody has experience with PCSX2?
[03:30] <asterismo> anyone?
[03:35] <holstein> asterismo: you have it running?
[03:36] <asterismo> i installed an experimental PPA version
[03:36] <asterismo> but i cannot make a game run at all
[03:37] <asterismo> i dont know how many files for the bios there has to be and staff like that
[03:37] <holstein> i just asked my go-to gaming guy
[03:37] <asterismo> i downloaded some bios files
[03:37] <holstein> he said its slow...
[03:38] <holstein> wait
[03:38] <holstein> theres an argument now
[03:38] <holstein> about how its not slow
[03:38] <holstein> its over in #opensourcemusicians
[03:38] <holstein> im sure they wouldnt mind talking about it with you
[03:38] <holstein> [lsd] and falktx
[03:39] <asterismo> may i ask in that channel?
[03:39] <holstein> sure
[03:39] <JoeSomebody> i have a drive with my ubuntu root swap and home partitions first , then the rest of the drive is ntfs, i want to skrink and move my ntfs to the end, and then resize my home bigger by about 100 gb(which i have never done) do i use gparted, is that in terminal?
[03:40] <UndiFineD> JoeSomebody, do not do that
[03:40] <JoeSomebody> i will do ntfs resize under windows
[03:40] <JoeSomebody> no?
[03:40] <UndiFineD> windows always wants to be the first partition
[03:40] <JoeSomebody> no windows is on another drive
[03:41] <UndiFineD> ok
[03:41] <JoeSomebody> the 1.5tb in question has linux and ntfs data only
[03:41] <JoeSomebody> i have 3 windows versions on a 250 gb
[03:41] <UndiFineD> well it is ok then :)
[03:41] <JoeSomebody> i choose my hdd on boot
[03:42] <JoeSomebody> so i can use gparted ? and is that a GUI?
[03:43] <UndiFineD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/543411/
[03:43] <UndiFineD> yes gparted is a gui : System -> Administration -> Gparted ...
[03:52] <JoeSomebody> so i can use gparted on ntfs too?
[03:53] <JoeSomebody> i mean can i use gparted on ntfs too?
[03:53] <holstein> yeah
[03:53] <holstein> just make sure everything is backed up
[03:56] <JoeSomebody> only part backed up , cant help it
[03:59] <JoeSomebody> what is align to MiB?
[03:59] <holstein> JoeSomebody: thats what im getting at
[04:00] <holstein> you really can totally break everything you have
[04:00] <holstein> in one click
[04:00] <holstein> its easy
[04:00] <holstein> ive done it ;)
[04:00] <holstein> i would back up everything
[04:00] <holstein> read everything twice
[04:00] <holstein> then, ask 'do i really need to do this now'
[04:00] <holstein> then, do it
[04:01] <holstein> as long as your comfortable with those terms
[04:01] <holstein> dont worry about 'align to MiB'
[04:12] <JoeSomebody> is gparted live any better in my case?
[04:13] <UndiFineD> gparted is gparted
[04:14] <UndiFineD> if you can move live that is ok
[04:14] <UndiFineD> but if you need to unmount / or /home
[04:14] <UndiFineD> then use the livecd
[11:12] <Mohan_chml> Gah! KinkyPinkie / inkognito  please stop it
[11:13] <Mohan_chml> -_-'
[12:22] <harmony1001> hi! how do i register my nickname with nickserv?
[12:23] <Mohan_chml> harmony1001, /msg nickserv help register
[12:24] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: split second faster!! :|
[12:24] <Mohan_chml> lol
[12:25] <harmony1001> Mohan_chml I get this response: Unknown command?
[12:26] <Mohan_chml> harmony1001, http://pastebin.com/CuTm01ni
[12:26] <JoeMaverickSett> harmony1001: do not put a space infront of /msg
[12:31] <harmony1001> can i run the command in the ubuntu-beginners room?
[12:31] <harmony1001> when i type /msg i get unknown command
[12:33] <JoeMaverickSett> harmony1001: what client are you using to connect to irc?
[12:33] <harmony1001> empathy
[12:34] <JoeMaverickSett> harmony1001: !register <<-- try that.
[12:34] <harmony1001> !regsiter
[12:34] <ubot2> Factoid 'regsiter' not found
[12:34] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, FAIL :P
[12:34] <JoeMaverickSett> harmony1001: in your nickserv chat window.
[12:34] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: not fail.
[12:35] <Mohan_chml> :o
[12:35] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: this says so at least; http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/483448/register-nick-using-empathy-client XD
[12:39] <JoeMaverickSett> harmony1001: could you register?
[12:40] <harmony1001> _chml: just joined the nickserv room
[12:43] <mks1992> need help installing ubuntu 10.10 to my laptop
[12:44] <mks1992> when i run ubuntu ni live cd
[12:45] <mks1992> every thing works fine, but when i install it and restart the laptop i get a run error on some virtual adress
[12:50] <harmony1001> i am struggling to register my nickname with nickserv using empathy 2.32.1
[12:51] <harmony1001> the /msg command in not supported
[12:51] <harmony1001> this !register command also does not work?
[13:05] <fatharrahman> hi
[13:28] <suprengr> !register
[13:28] <ubot2> Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[13:28] <suprengr> [http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=register]
[13:33] <fatharrahman> !hi
[13:33] <ubot2> Factoid 'hi' not found
[13:35] <fatharrahman> !ubot2
[13:35] <ubot2> Factoid 'ubot2' not found
[13:36] <fatharrahman> !pm
[13:36] <ubot2> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[13:36] <harmony1001> !register
[13:36] <ubot2> Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[13:47] <fatharrahman> bash: /msg: No such file or directory
[13:50] <fatharrahman> harmony1001: registering your nickname wrote an unclear guides and guess what this is the results :bash: /msg: No such file or directory
[13:52] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: you're supposed to do /msg <command> in your irc client not in the terminal.
[13:53] <fatharrahman> why they dont write this in the guide !register
[13:58] <fatharrahman> where in  xchat JoeMverickSett I mean which tab ?
[14:02] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: probably any tab, to be safe, try the freenode tab.
[14:40] <fatharrahman> how to install GNOM power manager from shell (I want the command) please?
[14:41] <fatharrahman> ?
[14:42] <DiegoTc> fatharrahman: sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager
[14:42] <fatharrahman> thanks
[14:42] <DiegoTc> np
[15:28] <fatharrahman> if some one got a crash while upgrading ubuntu then lost power manager he tried to lo in to ctrl+alt+f2 but it says incorrect log in wha s the problem the?
[15:29] <holstein> wrong user/pass?
[15:30] <nlsthzn> could it be possible that the password file got corrupted?
[15:30] <holstein> plausible i suppose
[15:31] <holstein> theres a recovery mode
[15:31] <holstein> or was*
[18:29] <reaper_> ? how do I turn up the brightness of my screen on a laptop
[18:29] <zkriesse> !brightness
[18:29] <ubot2> Factoid 'brightness' not found
[18:29] <zkriesse> darn!
[18:29] <zkriesse> That's in your screen settings
[18:29] <zkriesse> Just opposite click, and it should be findable pretty quick reaper_
[18:31] <reaper_> ok thanks
[18:32] <zkriesse> Uh...i wonder if it worked....
[18:56] <reaper_> how do I check to see what is using my Internet
[18:59] <sebikul> reaper_, execute "netstat" in a terminal
[19:00] <reaper_> wow thats a lot
[19:01] <sebikul> no problem ;)
[19:01] <nlsthzn> wow cool... netstat rocks :)
[19:02] <reaper_> there was like three or four I dont know what they are for
[19:12] <nlsthzn> problem is this shows every network connection, port... so many applications connecting to so many other things
[19:32] <fatharrahman> I have a big problem
[19:33] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, do tell
[19:33] <fatharrahman> the desktop auto shutdown
[19:34] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, can you restart it more info please
[19:34] <fatharrahman> ok
[19:34] <fatharrahman> wait a minute  am slow typer
[19:35] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, are you at a teminal tty
[19:35] <fatharrahman> no
[19:35] <fatharrahman> I started it again am at username screen now
[19:35] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, so far so good
[19:36] <fatharrahman> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 in a 512 RAM desktop ok?
[19:36] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, ok
[19:36] <fatharrahman> then sudo lubuntu in it
[19:36] <knit-wit> ok
[19:37] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, id lunbuntu in the chouces at login
[19:37] <knit-wit> is
[19:37] <fatharrahman> it  was pretty with wubi because BIOS dont see USB so it all inside a new windows
[19:37] <fatharrahman> I was inside lubuntu
[19:38] <fatharrahman> aha
[19:38] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, so you have a wubi your changing the desktops on?
[19:38] <fatharrahman> no I
[19:39] <fatharrahman> instaaled all the system by wubi and for three days it was good
[19:39] <fatharrahman> I connected ssh
[19:39] <fatharrahman> yesterday for learing how
[19:40] <fatharrahman> and was connecting vnc 2
[19:40] <fatharrahman> then
[19:40] <fatharrahman> it suddenlly
[19:40] <fatharrahman> shutdown while freind browsing facebook
[19:41] <fatharrahman> I lost ssh at laptp
[19:41] <fatharrahman> I checked the desktop but no signal
[19:41] <fatharrahman> after start up i mean
[19:41] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, with 512 ram I would be running it in a dual boot and a OS with less ram needed
[19:42] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, I just checked out archbang a arch offshoot that you can get a live ISI for
[19:42] <fatharrahman> is wubi is not a dual boot
[19:43] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, technically no it isn't in it's own partition
[19:43] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, wubi is a file in windows more of a pseudo virtual.
[19:44] <fatharrahman> ok why the system shut down exactly at connect to signal
[19:44] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, hard to say but do you know the ram and cpu at all time
[19:45] <knit-wit> usage
[19:45] <fatharrahman> I opened it now  no crash
[19:46] <fatharrahman> but if I press connect to network at moment of internet connection it shutdown
[19:46] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, I would have a conky on the desktop to see whats being used
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> I'm having trouble getting my mic to work. I thought it was working because I saw something on Input Level in the Sound Preferences under Input but I've realized that's not me talking it just says there's input and there isn't.
[19:46] <fatharrahman> by rhe way
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> Also I'm confused about what analog microphone / input 2 / microphone 1 et c all means.
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> for the "connector"
[19:47] <fatharrahman> knit-win: what conky mean?
[19:48] <MrAnthrope> !conky
[19:48] <ubot2> Factoid 'conky' not found
[19:48] <MrAnthrope> Meh. It was worth a shot.
[19:48] <MrAnthrope> Conky is like a desktop/widgit/thing.
[19:49] <MrAnthrope> But you can do more with it than that.
[19:49] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, conky is customizable http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358302
[19:49] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, just a desktop utility that will show a variety of things.
[19:50] <fatharrahman> ok
[19:50] <fatharrahman> what
[19:50] <knit-wit> MrAnthrope, sorry I can't help thanks for yours.
[19:50] <fatharrahman> can I ask a Q?
[19:51] <knit-wit> go for it
[19:51] <MrAnthrope> heh.
[19:52] <fatharrahman> if I got 2.4 GHz in this desktop and the bought 2-4 Gb RAM are this gonna work better or shoud I change motherboard?
[19:53] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, confusing question
[19:53] <MrAnthrope> "Highly configurable system monitor"
[19:54] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, how do you get these things?
[19:54] <fatharrahman> what things ?
[19:54] <MrAnthrope> 2.4GHz processor? Is it single core?
[19:55] <fatharrahman> I guess yes
[19:55] <MrAnthrope> If you're upgrading I would upgrade the motherboard and get a multicore processor.
[19:55] <nlsthzn> for sure... multi-core is now defacto just about
[19:55] <MrAnthrope> But if you can't afford all that some more ram will help. I don't know what the ram cap is for Ubuntu. I'm pretty sure x64 doesn't have a cap.
[19:56] <knit-wit> Upgrading a mother board sounds like new Windows install needed
[19:56] <knit-wit> Xp might take it
[19:56] <nlsthzn> but seeing as linux uses so little RAM 2 GB is good, 4 about the same, more just no change
[19:57] <MrAnthrope> Where does conky install to? System, Preferences?
[19:58] <MrAnthrope> Yeah you will definitely notice a speed boost if you get a dual core processor from what I've been told most Ubuntu shiz takes advantage of that now.
[19:58] <knit-wit> MrAnthrope, conky install to the system and has a file in files  .conky is moved to home in the terminal then conky
[19:58] <knit-wit> MrAnthrope, it is not used in the menu
[19:58] <fatharrahman> who can give me some time to guide me reinstall yhe ubuntu ?I need some private to complete it
[19:59] <MrAnthrope> ah. Hmm I guess I need a beginner's guide on conky lol.
[19:59] <MrAnthrope> fatharrahman Installing Ubuntu is more simple than installing windows. The only complicated part would be configuring partitions which is fairly easily explained.
[19:59] <knit-wit> fatharrahman, you might consider the Ubuntu forums lots of good help there and a lot more people available.
[20:00] <fatharrahman> no
[20:00] <fatharrahman> it is not that sort
[20:00] <MrAnthrope> It is not what sort?
[20:00] <fatharrahman> I installed thousands of Ubuntu
[20:00] <bodhizazen> MrAnthrope: all you need to know is 'killall conkey'
[20:00] <knit-wit> bodhizazen, what do you think forum or IRC?
[20:00] <bodhizazen> =)
[20:00] <bodhizazen> it gets old after a while
[20:00] <bodhizazen> fatharrahman: what do you need help with ?
[20:00] <MrAnthrope> lol thanks bod but it's not running yet :P
[20:00] <bodhizazen> knit-wit: whatever you feel is better
[20:01] <MrAnthrope> I don't have a .conky folder in my home folder.
[20:01] <knit-wit> bodhizazen, so even keeled
[20:01] <bodhizazen> knit-wit: IRC works well for some, others not
[20:01] <bodhizazen> if you have ADD, #ubuntu can be hard to follow
[20:02] <bodhizazen> but often IRC is faster
[20:02] <knit-wit> bodhizazen, I have tried to help this person not god for helpers at least for me.
[20:02] <knit-wit> good
[20:02] <fatharrahman> The desktop I mentioned is seeing the USB at BIOS but is not mounting feom it I posted this several time at forums I googled and scaned the web for asolution in vain thats why it is in wubi now
[20:02] <knit-wit> good luck to you all and a happy holiday got to go.
[20:03] <bodhizazen> fatharrahman: ??
[20:03] <bodhizazen> your usb will not boot ?
[20:03] <fatharrahman> same usb I installed many computer but thats why
[20:04] <MrAnthrope> Are you not able to burn a .iso to an actual CD? Or does the system not have a CD drive?
[20:04] <fatharrahman> I have a CD ROM but not Writable
[20:04] <MrAnthrope> ._.
[20:05] <fatharrahman> is the cd rom burnable
[20:05] <fatharrahman> :)
[20:05] <fatharrahman> or ahould it br writable
[20:05] <fatharrahman> ?
[20:06] <MrAnthrope> I"m confused. Are you asking or telling?
[20:06] <fatharrahman> asking
[20:06] <fatharrahman> ??
[20:06] <MrAnthrope> Do you not know how to burn .iso files?
[20:06] <fatharrahman> I know
[20:06] <fatharrahman> what am not sure is that
[20:07] <fatharrahman> is my cd rom working
[20:07] <fatharrahman> or should it be a writable cd rom
[20:07] <MrAnthrope> You're not sure if your cd drive is working?
[20:08] <fatharrahman> no
[20:08] <fatharrahman> it is working
[20:08] <MrAnthrope> lol :)
[20:08] <fatharrahman> oh my GOD
[20:08] <fatharrahman> it is working
[20:08] <fatharrahman> how can I ask you?
[20:08] <fatharrahman> please ?
[20:08] <fatharrahman> let me ask
[20:09] <MrAnthrope> I'm afraid I just don't understand the question.
[20:09] <fatharrahman> ok
[20:09] <fatharrahman> I'll reform it
[20:09] <MrAnthrope> Don't punch me, but is English your first language?
[20:09] <fatharrahman> no
[20:09] <MrAnthrope> What language do you speak?
[20:09] <fatharrahman> it is sucks I know
[20:10] <MrAnthrope> lol I think that's the problem here. There are language specific IRC chat rooms for Ubuntu.
[20:10] <fatharrahman> I'll speak Englis only from now
[20:10] <MrAnthrope> What is your first langauge?
[20:10] <MrAnthrope> language*
[20:10] <fatharrahman> hidden
[20:10] <MrAnthrope> lol hidden?
[20:11] <fatharrahman> could I reform my Q?
[20:11] <MrAnthrope>  /join Ubuntu-fr for french
[20:11] <MrAnthrope>  #Ubuntu-es for spanish.
[20:12] <MrAnthrope> et c.
[20:12] <fatharrahman> what is required for a CD drive to burn a cd in it
[20:13] <fatharrahman> my drive got a tag on it say CD-ROM-DRIVE is thats all ?
[20:14] <fatharrahman> because some friend told me to burn a cd you should have a specific drive got writable labeled on it
[20:15] <fatharrahman> is it clear now Mr MrAnthrope ?
[20:23] <fatharrahman> !help
[20:23] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:25] <oldtroupador> I need help with Boinc running in urbntu 10.10 with gtx460 with the latest drivers. All most all wu's report computation error.
[20:35] <MrAnthrope> Sorry, fatharrahman I'm getting ready for work. Yeah your cd drive should say CD-R RW on it.
[20:35] <fatharrahman> ok then the RW is not there
[20:36] <MrAnthrope> It should list three speeds. 48x 48x 24x or something.
[20:36] <fatharrahman> it is only CD-R
[20:37] <MrAnthrope> I would invest in a RW drive. They're like 20 bucks.
[20:37] <MrAnthrope> www.newegg.com
[20:37] <fatharrahman> that's why I have no choices either wubi or USB
[20:37] <MrAnthrope> I see.
[20:38] <fatharrahman> is this a link for advertising your investment to me ?
[20:38] <MrAnthrope> lmfao
[20:38] <MrAnthrope> I wish.
[20:38] <MrAnthrope> new egg is a place to get cheap computer parts.
[20:40] <fatharrahman> Thank you
[20:41] <MrAnthrope> Sorry I can't help with the USB issue, I have never installed an OS from a USB drive before.
[20:42] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, whats your computer model
[20:42] <oldtroupador> I need help setting up Boinc-Manager in ubuntu 10.10 on an AMd atholn II x4 with a gtx460 wu's error out?
[20:43] <fatharrahman> I dont kow bubbalooo
[20:43] <MrAnthrope> Fair warning, bubbalooo, he doesn't speak english and refuses to go to his native language channel.
[20:44] <fatharrahman> thank you MrAnthrope
[20:44] <bubbalooo> MrAnthrope, I could add more warnings but I would like to see them helped.;)
[20:44] <MrAnthrope> lol
[20:44] <MrAnthrope> He could get help if he'd go to his native language channel.  Learning Linux is a LOT like learning a foreign language.
[20:45] <MrAnthrope> Have you ever tried to study German in French? It's not fun.
[20:45] <fatharrahman> am good with english many natives thinks am native :)
[20:46] <MrAnthrope> I'd say you're at about a 4th grade writing level.
[20:46] <fatharrahman> it is here you need not to focus on grammer while eriting quickly
[20:46] <fatharrahman> writing *
[20:47] <MrAnthrope> Grammar is important for communication. Your lack of grammar is what took you 20 minutes to ask if your CD drive was RW.
[20:47] <oldtroupador> I thought this was a help channel not grammer lessons ?
[20:48] <bubbalooo> oldtroupador, it is a communication channel first
[20:48] <fatharrahman> I was trying to give a quick query
[20:49] <fatharrahman> and to pick a quick reply
[20:49] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, whats the native language
[20:50] <bubbalooo> what's
[20:50] <fatharrahman> should I stop entering this freenode
[20:50] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, no we just want to help and communication and understanding help thats all.
[20:51] <fatharrahman> I speak English only bad english too
[20:51] <fatharrahman> many people here helped me and got me as well why do want to kick me off?
[20:52] <fatharrahman> I am sorry
[20:52] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, who wants to kick you off you would be already if that was the case
[20:52] <fatharrahman> you made me mad for a while
[20:52] <bubbalooo> who me
[20:52] <fatharrahman> I am sorry
[20:53] <fatharrahman> I am repeating my apologetics
[20:53] <fatharrahman> I am sorry
[20:54] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, when in a environment that is major changes to you set up I want to make sure personally I don't bork it
[20:55] <bubbalooo> we want you safe and happy.;)
[20:55] <fatharrahman> forget about the question now am asking you during this crazy conversation did you misunderstand me in due to English?
[20:56] <fatharrahman> I guess no is the answer
[20:56] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, the only thing I noticed is a exsperience level with partitioning and open source thats all
[20:57] <bubbalooo> not necessarily  accurate that is why I ask questions, but when the message gets mixed up it adds more difficulty.
[20:57] <fatharrahman> is it grammatically  true to say : 'a experience ' ? :)
[20:58] <fatharrahman> you typed  "a exsperience"
[20:58] <fatharrahman> :)
[20:59] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, I have to log off soon so where are we at, I think talking about grammer is a waste of time but that is just me. It is about understanding each other really
[20:59] <fatharrahman> should I forget about what are you talking about and focus on this as you were making to me?
[20:59] <fatharrahman> no
[21:00] <fatharrahman> I don't think this is a wise sction
[21:00] <bubbalooo> fatharrahman, good luck see you soon I hope you get whatever resolved that seems to be the problem
[21:01] <oldtroupador> I need help setting up Boinc-Manager in ubuntu 10.10 on an AMd atholn II x4 with a gtx460 wu's error out
[21:01] <fatharrahman> thanky  you
[21:01] <fatharrahman> bye
[21:21] <davric> hello
[21:21] <davric> can someone please help me out
[21:22] <davric> anyone there?
[21:27] <yofel> !anyone | davric
[21:27] <ubot2> davric: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:28] <davric> Well I installed Heroes of Newerth but when I try to launch it my screen flickers and im back to desktop
[21:29] <Timo_> davric: don't play HoN, you probably installed it through wine
[21:29] <davric> no it is linux native
[21:29] <Timo_> so did you check the appdb from WINE?
[21:29] <Timo_> oh
[21:29] <Timo_> mm
[21:29] <davric> I installed the linux version correctly
[21:29] <Timo_> did you by any chance google it?
[21:30] <davric> i have installed and played it in the past easily on different comps
[21:30] <Timo_> the problem
[21:30] <davric> yes extensively
[21:30] <davric> I think it might be lack of proper drivers
[21:30] <Timo_> do you have 3d drivers installed?
[21:30] <davric> but i cant seem to find how to get the latest radeon x800 drivers
[21:30] <davric> not sure, i would like to go about installing them though
[21:30] <davric> I run a Radeon X800
[21:31] <davric> please help me install them
[21:33] <Timo_> mm
[21:34] <Timo_> you probably tried the hardware drivers program?
[21:34] <Timo_> or not yet?
[21:34] <davric> I have
[21:34] <davric> did not find any drivers
[21:44] <Timo_> mm
[21:44] <Timo_> well then we need to manually find them
[21:44] <luis__> hi!!
[21:44] <Timo_> mmm davric that's not promising, first hit: "Radeon x800 ATI Driver Misery" :P
[21:44] <davric> aww really?
[21:45] <davric> so you guys cant help me ]:
[21:46] <Timo_> davric: so you have 32 bit or 64 bit?
[21:47] <davric> I run a 3.6ghz dual core proccessor
[21:47] <davric> but
[21:47] <davric> i installed 32 bit version of ubuntu
[21:47] <davric> i believe
[21:47] <Timo_> okay
[21:47] <Timo_> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:47] <Timo_> ATI Radeon X800 Series that's the vid card you have, right (just to be sure)
[21:48] <Timo_> well download that link
[21:48] <Timo_> and get back to me when you've downloaded it
[21:48] <davric> downloaded it
[21:50] <davric> i have it downloaded
[21:55] <Timo_> okay
[21:55] <Timo_> sorry for not responding quickly :D I'm in a very interesting conversation about religion
[21:55] <Timo_> well can you open a Terminal?
[21:55] <Timo_> do you know how that is done?
[21:56] <davric> yes
[21:56] <Timo_> okay
[21:56] <davric> just tell me what i need to type in terminal
[21:56] <Timo_> well open one up
[21:56] <davric> ok
[21:56] <Timo_> where did you download it?
[21:56] <davric> cd Downloads
[21:56] <Timo_> in home folder
[21:56] <Timo_> or desktop
[21:56] <Timo_> okay
[21:56] <Timo_> well do cd Downloads
[21:57] <Timo_> and then
[21:57] <Timo_> ./ati-driver
[21:57] <Timo_> and just autocomplet it
[21:57] <Timo_> and press ENTER
[21:57] <davric> wait
[21:57] <Timo_> (auto complete is done with TAB)
[21:57] <davric> when i type ./ati-driver
[21:57] <davric> it does nothing
[21:57] <Timo_> yes
[21:57] <Timo_> write
[21:57] <Timo_> ./ati-driver <TAB> <ENTER>
[21:57] <davric> nope does nothing
[21:57] <Timo_> mm
[21:57] <Timo_> do you see this:
[21:57] <Timo_> tbeemster@tbeemster ~/Downloads $
[21:58] <davric> yes
[21:58] <Timo_> where tbeemster
[21:58] <Timo_> is your name
[21:58] <Timo_> mm
[21:58] <davric> yup.
[21:58] <Timo_> can you check what the file is named in ~/Downloads
[21:58] <davric> ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:58] <Timo_> okay
[21:58] <Timo_> so try either this:
[21:58] <Timo_> ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:58] <Timo_> or
[21:58] <Timo_> sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:59] <Timo_> (oh you might wanna run it with sudo
[21:59] <Timo_> sudo ./ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:59] <Timo_> or
[21:59] <Timo_> sudo sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:59] <davric> says can't open it
[21:59] <davric> and when i try ./ it says command not found
[22:00] <yofel> davric: what does running 'pwd' return? (without the quotes)
[22:00] <davric> wait
[22:00] <davric> i got it running
[22:00] <davric> its installing now
[22:00] <yofel> k
[22:01] <Timo_> good davric! :)
[22:01] <Timo_> hi yofel
[22:01] <davric> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.35-23-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro  Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.ey56tN
[22:01] <Timo_> finally a fellow Ubuntu-beginner helping out as well
[22:01] <Timo_> :P
[22:01] <davric> thats what i got
[22:01] <Timo_> mmm
[22:01] <Timo_> shit
[22:01] <davric> yeah right haha
[22:01] <Timo_> well I'm not like a computer guru
[22:01] <Timo_> and my hardware drivers just work fine
[22:01] <Timo_> so I had hoped this would work :P
[22:01] <davric> ughhh
[22:01] <davric> geez
[22:02] <davric> yofel what do you have in mind?
[22:02] <davric> im seriously about to rip this x800 out and throw it at the wall
[22:02] <davric> fuck ati
[22:02] <yofel> no, you cleared the part I was concerned about, I don't know anything about ati drivers I fear
[22:02] <davric> noooooooooo
[22:03] <davric> nvidia is so much more simple
[22:03] <davric> OK LAST QUESTION
[22:03] <davric> what would run better
[22:03] <davric> a radeon x800 or two nvidia geforce 7900's ?
[22:03] <Timo_> as I said, I'm no computer guru :P
[22:03] <davric> :[
[22:03] <Timo_> but at least the drivers would work :D
[22:03] <davric> haha good point
[22:03] <Timo_> can you try one last thing?
[22:03] <davric> yes
[22:03] <davric> please
[22:04] <davric> tell me
[22:04] <Timo_> sudo apt-get install fglrx-install
[22:04] <Timo_> wait no
[22:04] <Timo_> sudo apt-get install fglrx
[22:04] <Timo_> just that
[22:04]  * Timo_ hopes davric will not break down :D
[22:04] <yofel> watch out with that, first make sure fglrx actually supports that card
[22:04] <davric> k its downloading
[22:04] <davric> im just gonna wing it
[22:04] <yofel> if not, you'll end up without X on reboot
[22:04] <davric> nooooo
[22:05] <davric> for real?
[22:05] <yofel> well, it's fixable
[22:05] <davric> how do i fix it?
[22:05] <davric> if it does happen
[22:05] <Timo_> davric: will be instant terminal guru
[22:05] <Timo_> :D
[22:05] <davric> C:
[22:05] <Timo_> davric: uninstall fglrx again
[22:05] <Timo_> when you're running into trouble
[22:05] <Timo_> and
[22:05] <Timo_> do this
[22:05] <davric> ok
[22:06] <davric> whats the command for uninstalling that btw
[22:06] <yofel> davric: switch to a tty by pressing ctrl+alt+f2, login in, remove driver again, and remove any /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:06] <yofel> davric: apt-get remove fglrx
[22:06] <Timo_> that's what I wanted to say :d
[22:06] <davric> ok
[22:06] <davric> C:
[22:06] <yofel> (with sudo)
[22:06] <davric> i figured
[22:06] <davric> sudo of course
[22:08] <davric> ok
[22:08] <davric> fglrx is installed
[22:08] <davric> now what?
[22:09] <davric> restart?
[22:09] <yofel> yes, good luck
[22:09] <davric> and that should work?
[22:09] <davric> or should i try to install those drivers i downloaded when i restart?
[22:09] <Timo_> davric: just try to restart
[22:10] <Timo_> and do remember
[22:10] <Timo_> what yofel said
[22:10] <Timo_> in case the system breaks
[22:10] <davric> ctrl alt f2
[22:10] <davric> remove fglrx
[22:10] <davric> ?
[22:10] <davric> ima restart wish me luck
[22:10] <yofel> well, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English which I got when I searched seems to say that you need to use lucid with your x800
[22:11] <davric> whats lucid?
[22:11] <yofel> davric: ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04
[22:11] <davric> im not trying to down grade
[22:11] <davric> fuck that
[22:11] <davric> brb restart
[22:11] <yofel> or even karmic, since that driver doesn't list Xorg 7.5 as supported...
[22:12] <yofel> lucid has the old xserver though
[22:12]  * yofel is gone for a few minutes
[22:13] <Timo_> haha
[22:13] <Timo_> davric is pissed :P
[22:14] <Timo_> I used to have that when my graphics card was f up :P but that had nothing to do with linux
[22:22] <yofel> he's not back, bad omen..
[22:23] <Timo_> yep
[22:23] <Timo_> he might be in some dark terminal now
[22:23] <Timo_> scared as hell
[22:43] <bodhizazen> paultag: poke =)
[23:46] <kendrickLeiter_> Any help for a n00b?
[23:49] <bioterror> kendrickLeiter_, whatkind of?
[23:52] <bioterror> !ask | kendrickLeiter_
[23:52] <ubot2> kendrickLeiter_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:54] <kendrickLeiter_> Thanks for the help guys.  This is my 2nd time using an IRC.  Will be clear the first time in the future.
[23:54] <head_victim> kendrickLeiter_: no worries, it's all a learning experience :)