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* Pici rolls his eyes01:43
FlannelPici: 6 401:45
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !dualboot =~ s/MACs/Macs/01:46
Pici!dualboot =~ s/MACs/Macs/01:46
ubottuI'll remember that Pici01:46
nhandlerbilalakhtar, hypa7ia, Jordan_U, and rww: You should all now be restricted-editors. This should allow you to add new factoids to ubottu in #ubuntu-ops (so that other operators can monitor the changes). After the probation period, if everything goes well, you will be given full editor privileges (so you can add factoids in PM as well).02:56
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maco@mark #ubuntu evilaim started swearing /after/ being told language rules07:33
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maco(is that one malformed too? if so i still don't know what im doing wrong)07:33
rwwlooks good07:35
rwwI do @help mark all the time :)07:35
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Myrttiinsmod is steering himself towards catastrophe09:36
Myrttidoes anyone want to talk with him here apart from me?09:38
MyrttiANYONE?09:39
Tm_TMyrtti: I'll take him09:51
MyrttiI think I smacked him hard enough now09:52
Myrttinext one will cause him more pain09:52
Tm_TI PM'd him09:53
Tm_T1154.41 <insmod> fuck off09:56
Myrttisuch a lovely guy09:56
Myrttinext slip might just end up being his last on #ubuntu09:56
Tm_Tyup09:56
Tm_Tfor the record I kindly asked him to stop for a moment and think why "my way" isn't what we support in our channels in general09:57
Myrttihe's going to have a bad day10:38
macoyeah he's not getting benefit of the doubt on a perfectly-formatted forkbomb after the way he's been10:39
jpdsMyrtti: He's gone.10:39
macowas only a remove, not a ban, just so's ya know10:39
Myrttijpds: the roulette is still spinning on guesses for how long10:39
Myrttibets are taken in10:39
jpdsMaybe not.10:39
Myrttiah, and there we have it10:39
macorejoined10:39
Jordan_Umaco: I was actually surprised you didn't ban for that.10:40
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MyrttiJordan_U: escalation10:40
Myrttistart gently and if the clue doesn't stick, hit them with harder tools10:40
macoand there it is10:40
Myrttias demonstrated here10:40
Jordan_UTelling users to run mallicious commands seems like a zero tolerance type thing to me.10:41
elkyadorable10:41
jpds"Ah, **** it, dude; let's go bowling"10:41
macoJordan_U:  it was "what's this?" not "do this:" so ... slightly different10:41
MyrttiJordan_U: "assume good faith"10:41
Myrttiit sucks as a guideline at times, but oh well10:41
Tm_Thello insmod, how can we help you?10:42
insmodyou guys are a joke -- no one knows anything10:43
insmodfunny really10:43
jpdsGood, humour is good.10:43
macoa funny one, i hope?10:44
Tm_Tinsmod: our job is not to know but make sure our channels are smooth and safe for everyone10:44
insmodno just an observation10:44
insmod<Tm_T>bad move10:44
Tm_Twhat is?10:45
insmod<Tm_T>help is help -- being attack for another way to do the same thing is dumb10:45
Myrttiinsmod: if the another way potentially breaks stuff, then it's in everyones interest to not use or guide others to use the another way10:46
insmodi drink with a straw i don't --- so?10:46
Jordan_Uinsmod: The "way" that you gave commonly causes people to no longer be able to log into their systems.10:46
insmod see the thing is ubuntu made it like widows -- so you don't fuck it up -- but there are better easier ways10:47
insmodthe gui is for the week10:47
Tm_Tinsmod: using sudo for GUI apps is simply "no", no explanations10:48
insmodlearn the back end then we can chat10:48
Jordan_U!gksudo | insmod10:48
ubottuinsmod: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)10:48
insmodwrong sudo is stronger if you know it -- they just don;t trust you using back end10:49
jpdswut.10:49
macothat didn't even make sense10:49
insmodthe back end runs the gui10:49
macothe difference between gksudo and sudo is in how they handle file permissions10:50
macothat is, sudo on graphical apps results in *broken* ones10:50
insmodthe gui is a front to the back -- the say use the gui because you will fuck it up10:50
insmod<maco>no10:50
macoit's fine to tell people sudo if you're giving it to them with *command ine* apps10:50
Jordan_Uinsmod: Please read the link from ubottu.10:50
macoit is /not/ ok to mix sudo and gui10:50
insmodyou are wrong they just don't think you know it10:51
Myrttiso there seems not to be anything to discuss10:51
insmodguess not10:51
Myrttisadly, if you can't seem to grasp the idea that giving "your way" instructions in #ubuntu isn't allowed, we can't allow you in10:52
jpdsinsmod: Have you tried to actually read the source code maybe?10:52
insmodif i was a door do you a) walk into me or b) open and go through ? ask ubuntu10:53
insmod<jpds>lol i write it10:53
macoare you really so new to irc that you still haven't learned the angle brackets aren't part of the nick?10:54
insmod<maco>not new old school10:54
macouh...huh...10:54
insmod<maco>hence i like the term10:55
popeycooks10:55
macopopey: huh?10:55
Tm_Tinsmod: something else we can help you with?10:57
insmodi wrote a lot in the day -- even for trident -- then just i just wrecked it and my prog hence the loop i wrote -- just try to help know  but every one just knows gui10:58
Myrttiinsmod: that's the way Ubuntu rolls10:58
Myrttieither roll with it, or you'll get your fingers squished10:59
insmodlol gui is evil10:59
macothis may not be the right distro for you then10:59
Myrttiinsmod: you're welcome to your opinion, anything else we can help you with?10:59
insmodlol no i just installed to try for the wife -- it's a great gilr distro!11:00
insmodgirl11:00
* maco rolls eyes11:00
macoit's a great distro for guys too11:00
insmodand kids11:00
macosoftware doesn't really care about gender or age11:00
maco(ok, maybe reading abilities for the wee kiddies)11:01
insmod<maco>no but how you use it does11:01
Myrttican we move over?11:01
Myrttior on, or past this chitchat?11:01
Myrttiinsmod: so, was there anything else that we can help you with? you're not getting unbanned with what you've supplied us with for now11:02
insmod<Myrtti>nope --- any real linux users here ? i wrote a prog many years ago it's out dated and not current syntax --but if you know your stuff let's do it ( I can make it all ubunto) lol <Myrtti> can you write code you talk a lot11:06
* maco sighs11:07
Myrttiinsmod: byebye11:07
macoreally, you act as though nobody in here has a patch in the linux kernel!11:07
Tm_Tinsmod: if you have no other issue to discuss with us ops, I kindly ask you to leave the channel11:07
insmod:)11:07
insmodjust check it out http://home.cogeco.ca/~smacneil1/   7 years old11:08
Myrttiroulette spins11:09
knomeyup11:09
Myrttihow many minutes? I say 311:09
knome411:09
Tm_T211:09
jribdarn, I was gonna take 211:09
knomeme too, but then i thought... maybe not *that* quick11:10
knomeoldschool ircers probably send the commands raw to the server and don't use a client for that11:10
Myrttioh yeah, telnet11:10
knome4 minutes now11:12
jpdsThey're probably using ii.11:12
knomei win11:12
Tm_The's not coming yet, as he's PM'ing me11:14
Myrttiawwwww11:15
knomehow cute.11:15
* maco ftps Tm_T some of those fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies11:15
* jrib is reminded there are cookies in the house11:20
* jrib looks for a maco11:20
* jrib breathes a sigh of relief11:20
jpdsjrib: In your house?11:20
jribjpds: yes11:21
macoO_O i am?11:22
macowhen did you kidnap me?!11:22
jribmaco: I don't think you understand my sigh of relief :P11:22
macojrib: i think you took jpds's question wrong...11:23
macoat least, i think he was asking if i was in your house...11:23
jribah11:24
jribI thought he was asking about the cookies11:24
Piciyeesh.12:56
jribhe has to be a troll...12:57
Picigeoip tells me hes from Cyprus/Greece, so it may be a language issue.12:58
Myrttiwhowhatwhere13:02
PiciMyrtti: johnbiker in #ubuntu13:02
PiciMyrtti: no more !hi13:05
MyrttiPici: no kidding, the bot just told me that13:06
Myrttianyone else want to state the obvious, now that we're at it? ;-)13:06
PiciOh oh.13:07
PiciNo.13:07
Tm_TMyrtti: no more !hi to us ):13:16
* Tm_T hides13:16
* Myrtti facepalms13:24
Pici'tean veiwr'13:25
jribindeed, I'm off for a bit...13:26
Myrttidr_willis needs a medal13:29
Tm_The is usually a very good helper13:30
charlie-tcaMyrtti: !hi still works for #xubuntu, though13:31
Myrttiwhat is it with people with zero iniative...13:38
Jordan_UMyrtti: I've always wondered but never really bothered to look into it.13:39
Tm_TJordan_U: you should get your mom look into it13:40
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Myrttiare they really trying to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg?14:24
Picihrm.  Thats not the first time I've seen someone do that sort of spam.14:25
PiciI'm going to ask in #freenode, but before I do, does anyone know what this might be: http://pastebin.com/cnWBdRgZ ?14:39
Myrtticould it have something to do with anonops?14:52
Jordan_UThat seems likely, they do use IRC to control their botnet.14:56
PiciStarting back in early 2009?14:56
Myrttiwell, it could be a hash of some sort to instruct whatever botnet...14:57
Picimquin figured it out.  It looks to be CWirc, raw morse code over IRC.15:05
Picihttp://myspace.voo.be/pcoupard/cwirc/15:05
Myrttiright15:07
LjLcwirc <315:18
PiciIt doesn't surprise me that LjL knows about this.15:19
LjL!info cwirc15:20
ubottucwirc (source: cwirc): X-Chat morse plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-3 (maverick), package size 155 kB, installed size 344 kB15:20
rwwso /that's/ what that was15:24
rwwmystery from months and months ago: solved15:25
topyliooh15:25
topyliwhy does it require xchat? i want to use my xchat-gnome :(15:32
rwwyou should switch to xchat15:33
PiciIts just going to turn it into bleeps and bloops15:33
Picior blips and bleeps if you want to be technical.15:33
topylii think i'm going to file a bug instead :)15:33
* tsimpson senses a netsplit coming16:16
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1530 users, 0 overflows, 1530 limit))16:18
i0niccan i get access to ubunut16:31
popeyi0nic: looks like ikonia still isn't around. I wonder if someone else might be able to help you...?16:36
PiciLet me see if I can take a look.  One moment.16:37
popeythanks Pici16:37
Picii0nic: Do you happen to remember why you were banned?16:39
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i0nicPici: ya i raged on some admin like 3 months ago17:19
IdleOnei0nic: I will remove the ban if you will agree to follow the rules at the following links https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ let me know when you have read them.18:20
IdleOnetsimpson: I removed a few of the exempts I could see for threembb.ie18:33
tsimpsonthanks18:33
i0nici agre18:36
IdleOnei0nic: ok. I am going to trust your word18:38
IdleOnegimme a moment to remove the ban18:38
IdleOnePlease join #ubuntu to make sure I didn't miss anything18:39
IdleOnei0nic: you should be able to join #ubuntu now. Please part this channel as per the no idling rule in here. have a good day.18:42
IdleOnewas just thinking if I should do that :/18:48
tsimpsonI suspect they went afk18:49
tsimpsonseems strange to just after replying, but meh18:49
IdleOneyeah18:50
PiciIdleOne: thanks for taking care of that.  I couldn't wait forever for him to respond to me, had to step away.19:20
IdleOnePici: no problem.19:23
tsimpsonAmaranth,  Flannel, funkyHat, Gary, h00k, IdleOne, ikonia, maco, Mamarok, mneptok, tonyyarusso , Daviey, dholbach, popey: you should all now have full factoid editing rights with ubottu19:27
IdleOnethank you19:28
Mamaroktsimpson: thanks :)19:31
IdleOneWhat is the position on that indie game bundle site?19:32
IdleOneadvertising it in #ubuntu = not allowed?19:33
PiciIdleOne: Correct, its offtopic for support.19:34
IdleOnePici: ok, just wanted to make sure. thank you19:34
Amaranthtsimpson: I didn't already?22:23
tsimpsonapparently not22:24
tsimpsoneither way, you do now22:24
Amaranth@login22:49
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Amaranth!foo22:49
ubottufoo is baz22:49
Amaranth!no foo is bar22:49
ubottuI'll remember that Amaranth22:49
Amaranth!foo22:49
ubottufoo is bar22:49
CarlFK@login22:56
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.22:56
CarlFKhow do I fix that?22:56
tsimpsonCarlFK: you're an op in #ubuntu right?23:37
CarlFKtsimpson: yep23:37
elkyi'm confused as to who he is...23:37
tsimpsonodd how we've never really seen you...23:38
tsimpsonCarlFK: do you remember when you became an op?23:38
elkyif this is bilalahtar, for mercy sake, could you choose a single nickname and stick to it?23:38
tsimpsonelky: it's not23:39
CarlFKabout 5 years ago - whenever Breazy was out23:39
macohaha23:39
macoelky: bilal is cdbs now23:39
CarlFKsame nick for ages23:39
elkymaco, i know, which is why i suspected23:39
macothough riddell was getting at him for being obsolete this morning23:39
macoso we'll see how long that lasts23:40
elkyi've seen him as something else too23:40
elkyCarlFK, when's the last time you were actually active?23:42
CarlFKactive = answering questions or using op privs?23:43
CarlFKI answer qutestions all the time, like today.  In the last year I have only opped myself at most once a week23:45
maconinja op23:45
CarlFKI was going to say I was soft.  I like ninja better :)23:46
tsimpsonyou seem to use +o a lot less than once a week23:56
tsimpsonI see only 5 in the last 3 years (I need to prune my logs)23:57
tsimpsonCarlFK: I guess I should ask if you want to continue as an #ubuntu op any more?23:59

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