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JonathanDMorning.11:18
rmg51Morning11:24
JonathanDhey11:26
JonathanDhow goes?11:26
rmg51I need more sleep! :-/11:32
rmg51other than that, slowly11:33
macoi should go to sleep11:35
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InHisNameI've got enough sleep but not enough day left to do all my todo list.14:49
ChinnoDogInHisName: better take back some of that sleep for a refund.15:46
BeckySanderlin`x"{#WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, has been granted bail by UK court. http://on.cnn.com/f2l5ct"15:47
PennBotTitle: CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News (at on.cnn.com)15:47
ChinnoDogBeckySanderlin`x: I get page not found15:49
BeckySanderlin`xhttp://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/14/wikileaks-founder-granted-bail/15:50
PennBotTitle: WikiLeaks founder granted bail This Just In - CNN.com Blogs (at news.blogs.cnn.com)15:50
ChinnoDogThat one works.15:52
InHisNameChinnoDog: and where do I find the sleep refund dept ?16:06
InHisNameWorking on fixing boot problems with older machine and ubuntu upgrade failed [10.04]16:07
InHisName/dev/sda5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced16:08
InHisNameI ran gparted CD and run fsck on '/dev/sda5'    gparted called it /dev/hdb5     STILL get not cleanly unmounted error. What else do I need to do before rebooting ?16:09
MutantTurkeypleia2: I SAW YOUR PAGE ON REDDIT :) upvote16:10
InHisNameMore notes on screen - next several:16:17
InHisNamesda2: clean,   sda6: clean        skipping Appmor profile    [what's this thing?]16:18
InHisNameLong one:  since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an UpStart job, you may also use  the start(8) utility e.g. start S49console-setup16:20
InHisNamestart: unknown job S49console-setup16:21
InHisNameI'd like to learn how to salvage this one and bring it back to life.  Seems like a useful ubuntu learning challenge.16:24
ChinnoDogInHisName: at the counter with the sheep behind it with the number tattooed on its side.16:35
ChinnoDogIs it proper etiquette to list cousins that are not first cousins on fb in the family relationship section?16:40
BeckySanderlin`xlol16:40
InHisNameChinnoDog: if so, then what about 3rd cousins twice removed ?16:40
ChinnoDogExactly. Generally you would just call them all "cousins" unless you want to be specific. I'm specific, but fb isn't.16:41
ChinnoDogSo, do I add my 2nd cousin as my cousin?16:41
InHisNamesure - then like having GIANT family16:41
ChinnoDogSo you don't think this is a good idea?16:42
ChinnoDogIf you can legally date them, don't list them as family?16:42
InHisNameDepends on whether THEY like or object to that16:43
andrewhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/CousinTree_kinship.svg16:43
ChinnoDogWell, there is no way for me to know that. The only question is, will my first cousin be offended that I list all those other cousins?16:43
InHisNameIf you goal is to race to over 5,000 friends go for it! All all you can find.16:43
ChinnoDogandrew: it wasn't until I looked it up on wikipedia and studied that graphic that I understood cousin relationships correctly16:44
ChinnoDogI didn't say they were my friend. I said I was related to them. haha16:44
InHisNameI keep forgetting the removed part.  What was the wikipedia link ?16:44
ChinnoDogremoved = separation in generations16:44
andrewhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/CousinTree_kinship.svg16:44
andrewor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin16:45
PennBotTitle: Cousin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)16:45
InHisNameHa Ha  language choice 'simple english'     alot shorter and few words than normal english16:46
InHisNamewell, where are the ubuntu guru s ?17:17
BeckySanderlin`xi need one17:22
BeckySanderlin`xseems Pulseaudio17:22
BeckySanderlin`xis not working properly17:22
BeckySanderlin`xw/ my system17:22
InHisNameI had that too a while ago.  Not sure what I did though.17:22
BeckySanderlin`xTHINK!17:23
InHisNameMay have been UNinstalling it then REinstalled it     but only a guess.17:23
InHisNameI had tried the other audio driver but it didn't do me any good either.  Then after REinstalling pulseaudio it started to work,  I think.17:25
pleia2MutantTurkey: thanks for the comment :)17:25
jthanBeckySanderlin`x: what about pulse isn't working?18:55
BeckySanderlin`xumm18:56
BeckySanderlin`xit stutters18:56
BeckySanderlin`xwhen i have it installe18:56
BeckySanderlin`xinstalled*18:56
jthanJust all sounds, in general18:56
BeckySanderlin`xyes, flash, mp3, movies skip too18:56
jthanHm. Back in my Gentoo days I had a lot of run-ins with Pulseaudio problems.18:56
jthanLet me think for a few minutes.18:57
jthanbtw - how do we all feel about the possibility for "daily updates" or whatever term they used for the next major release?18:58
BeckySanderlin`x11.04?18:58
BeckySanderlin`xdaily as in.. everyday an update will be pushed out?18:59
ChinnoDogSo, something new can break every day?18:59
BeckySanderlin`xeredai18:59
jthanhold on..19:00
jthanI think it might have been ssweeny that posted it on twitter.19:00
jthanssweeny: was it you? :-P19:01
jthanhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opensuse-and-ubuntu-rollercoasters19:01
PennBotTitle: The openSUSE and Ubuntu Rollercoasters | Linux Journal (at www.linuxjournal.com)19:01
jthanThe Register quoted Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Canonical and Ubuntu, as saying he would be moving the popular distribution from its six-month release cycle to daily updates through the Ubuntu Software Center. This sent shock waves throughout Ubuntu with lots of cheers and a few jeers, but mostly lots more speculation. Some thought this was another indication of Canonical's newly forming direction while many worried that more bugs and instability 19:01
BeckySanderlin`xeh. my pc is filled w/ bugs, it really doesnt matter19:02
BeckySanderlin`xplus, i get Update monitor asking for me to allow updates anyways almost every week19:03
BeckySanderlin`xso theres no real diff19:03
jthanRight - but there are certain things that only change with major releases whereas with said ^ system, it could happen.. anytime19:03
jthanOr - that's how I'd imagine it works.19:03
jthan@stats19:04
PennBotjthan: I have 2 registered users with 1 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.19:04
jthanlogs?19:04
PennBot<pleia2> we haz logs, http://ubuntupennsylvania.org/PennBot/ or What happens in #ubuntu-us-pa stays in the logs19:04
BeckySanderlin`xi'd welcome it i guess. i have no sound so if it helps me to get some, i'd gladly be alll for it19:04
ssweenyjthan: what did i do now?19:04
jthanssweeny: Did you RT that link that I just shared? About the possibility for "rolling releases" of sorts with Ubuntu?19:05
* ssweeny posted no such link about rolling releases19:05
ssweenyand besides that was just a rumor19:05
jthanWas it?19:05
* jthan doesn't know19:05
jthanI just read it.19:05
ssweenythe man himself said that wasn't what they're doing19:06
jthan"the man"19:06
jthanhaha19:06
ssweenyhe said it should be easier to get fixes into ubu19:06
jthanI see.19:06
ssweenyand that might include updating packages more often19:06
jthanWell thank you for furthering our Ubuntu education.19:06
* ssweeny does what he can19:06
pleia2he was just talking about ppas and other rapid dev tools19:06
pleia2mangling that into "ubuntu becomes rolling release" gets more page hits though :)19:07
jthanHaha. I'd imagine.19:07
jthanIf Ubuntu /did/ become rolling release, I'd probably throw a party.19:07
jthanI would invite everyone I knew. And everyone I don't know.19:07
jthanpleia2: on a similar note (but not really) when is Debian 6.0 set to be stable?19:08
pleia2"when it's ready"19:08
* jthan puts it on his calendar19:09
pleia2they don't really do estimates, probably early next year though, the beta2 installer just came out last week19:09
pleia2RC bugs are still over 100, so it won't be by the end of the year19:09
jthanYeah I saw your approval of the installer. Haha19:10
jthanI was going to work on Debian bugs for Google Code in but then I got hit hard with work so.. :-(19:10
pleia2yeah, mostly I'm just happy they didn't mess it up, still the good old debian installer I know and love19:10
jthanI'm a big fan of the ncurses installer.19:11
pleia2yeah, I didn't try their improved gui installer19:12
jthanThe only place I'm using Debian at this point is on my Linode anyhow.19:12
jthanSo that isn't so much of an option even if I liked it.19:12
jedijfBeckySanderlin`x: i always start with lspci to get audio card info and then google that device and the release you are running -someone has encountered fixed/shot/killed themselves prior20:57
BeckySanderlin`x Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X20:59
jedijf@google ubuntu EMU10k1X21:00
PennBotBugger all, I dunno.21:00
jedijfnot a good start21:00
jedijf[ubuntu] [SOLVED] No sound for emu10k1x on Hardy [Archive ...:  <http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-846804.html21:00
PennBotTitle: [ubuntu] [SOLVED] No sound for emu10k1x on Hardy [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org)21:00
jedijfreal bot ^21:01
jedijfgoogle is your friend21:01
PennBotI already had it that way, jedijf.21:01
jthangoogle?21:01
PennBotSomebody said google is your friend, jthan21:01
jedijfeveryone should21:01
jthanha21:01
jthanWho does Bing get to be friends with?21:01
jedijfbing is a friend of bill's21:02
jthanOh.21:02
jthanbing?21:02
PennBotIt has been said that bing is the new default search engine in ie now, jthan21:02
jedijfaa reference, too for bonus points21:02
jedijfbing is also a friend of bill's21:02
jedijfbing?21:02
PennBotIt has been said that bing is the new default search engine in ie now or a friend of bill's, jedijf21:02
MutantTurkeybing is nice i think.21:15
MutantTurkeyalittle more linux compatability with silverlight would be nice though.21:15
andrewtechnically speaking, anything is more than zero21:17
MutantTurkeymoonlight fails21:31
andrewTrue, but in the same sentence, I must add, moonlight != silverlight21:39
MutantTurkeymoonlight < silverlight21:39
jthanwhich is less than sunlight!21:39
MutantTurkeydon't even get me started about sun... :p21:39
andrewdaystar?21:39
PennBothttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=1999120821:39
BeckySanderlin`xGRRRRR... ive had it.21:40
jedijfthe joys of Linux \o/21:41
* jthan wants a new distro21:41
jthanjust to be different.21:41
BeckySanderlin`xnow theres no sound in games.21:42
BeckySanderlin`xit used to have sound21:42
BeckySanderlin`xeven in Steam games21:42
BeckySanderlin`xbut i musta did something b/c theres no sound in Steam21:42
BeckySanderlin`xim sad21:42
BeckySanderlin`xone thing tho.. Vent + Wine works21:42
BeckySanderlin`xbut that used to work in my old config21:42
jthanSteam.. you using wine there too?21:43
MutantTurkeywine...21:43
BeckySanderlin`xi wonder if i should..21:43
jthanIs there a linux native steam client?21:43
BeckySanderlin`xyes jthan21:43
jthanooh.21:43
BeckySanderlin`xno21:43
jthanalright.21:43
jthanWhat games do you play?21:43
* jthan never had a whole lot of luck with wine + games + Linux21:43
BeckySanderlin`xhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/BeckySanderlin/games?tab=all21:44
PennBotTitle: Steam Community :: c.BeckySanderlin :: Games (at steamcommunity.com)21:44
BeckySanderlin`xi play more but for some reason steam doesnt display those21:45
jthandang.21:45
BeckySanderlin`xanyways.. DNL is coming on shortly. need foods then TV21:45
andrewhttp://twitter.com/#!/google/statuses/1479771427333734421:45
PennBotTitle: Twitter (at twitter.com)21:45
BeckySanderlin`xthanks for trying to help21:45
ChinnoDogssweeny: did you buy that bundle? I don't know about the others, but Braid remains one of my favorite games.22:00

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