=== rhpot199` is now known as rhpot1991 === rmg511 is now known as rmg51 [11:18] Morning. [11:24] Morning [11:26] hey [11:26] how goes? [11:32] I need more sleep! :-/ [11:33] other than that, slowly [11:35] i should go to sleep === yoda_van is now known as jedijf [14:49] I've got enough sleep but not enough day left to do all my todo list. [15:46] InHisName: better take back some of that sleep for a refund. [15:47] "{#WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, has been granted bail by UK court. http://on.cnn.com/f2l5ct" [15:47] Title: CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News (at on.cnn.com) [15:49] BeckySanderlin`x: I get page not found [15:50] http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/14/wikileaks-founder-granted-bail/ [15:50] Title: WikiLeaks founder granted bail This Just In - CNN.com Blogs (at news.blogs.cnn.com) [15:52] That one works. [16:06] ChinnoDog: and where do I find the sleep refund dept ? [16:07] Working on fixing boot problems with older machine and ubuntu upgrade failed [10.04] [16:08] /dev/sda5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced [16:09] I ran gparted CD and run fsck on '/dev/sda5' gparted called it /dev/hdb5 STILL get not cleanly unmounted error. What else do I need to do before rebooting ? [16:10] pleia2: I SAW YOUR PAGE ON REDDIT :) upvote [16:17] More notes on screen - next several: [16:18] sda2: clean, sda6: clean skipping Appmor profile [what's this thing?] [16:20] Long one: since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an UpStart job, you may also use the start(8) utility e.g. start S49console-setup [16:21] start: unknown job S49console-setup [16:24] I'd like to learn how to salvage this one and bring it back to life. Seems like a useful ubuntu learning challenge. [16:35] InHisName: at the counter with the sheep behind it with the number tattooed on its side. [16:40] Is it proper etiquette to list cousins that are not first cousins on fb in the family relationship section? [16:40] lol [16:40] ChinnoDog: if so, then what about 3rd cousins twice removed ? [16:41] Exactly. Generally you would just call them all "cousins" unless you want to be specific. I'm specific, but fb isn't. [16:41] So, do I add my 2nd cousin as my cousin? [16:41] sure - then like having GIANT family [16:42] So you don't think this is a good idea? [16:42] If you can legally date them, don't list them as family? [16:43] Depends on whether THEY like or object to that [16:43] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/CousinTree_kinship.svg [16:43] Well, there is no way for me to know that. The only question is, will my first cousin be offended that I list all those other cousins? [16:43] If you goal is to race to over 5,000 friends go for it! All all you can find. [16:44] andrew: it wasn't until I looked it up on wikipedia and studied that graphic that I understood cousin relationships correctly [16:44] I didn't say they were my friend. I said I was related to them. haha [16:44] I keep forgetting the removed part. What was the wikipedia link ? [16:44] removed = separation in generations [16:44] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/CousinTree_kinship.svg [16:45] or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin [16:45] Title: Cousin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [16:46] Ha Ha language choice 'simple english' alot shorter and few words than normal english [17:17] well, where are the ubuntu guru s ? [17:22] i need one [17:22] seems Pulseaudio [17:22] is not working properly [17:22] w/ my system [17:22] I had that too a while ago. Not sure what I did though. [17:23] THINK! [17:23] May have been UNinstalling it then REinstalled it but only a guess. [17:25] I had tried the other audio driver but it didn't do me any good either. Then after REinstalling pulseaudio it started to work, I think. [17:25] MutantTurkey: thanks for the comment :) [18:55] BeckySanderlin`x: what about pulse isn't working? [18:56] umm [18:56] it stutters [18:56] when i have it installe [18:56] installed* [18:56] Just all sounds, in general [18:56] yes, flash, mp3, movies skip too [18:56] Hm. Back in my Gentoo days I had a lot of run-ins with Pulseaudio problems. [18:57] Let me think for a few minutes. [18:58] btw - how do we all feel about the possibility for "daily updates" or whatever term they used for the next major release? [18:58] 11.04? [18:59] daily as in.. everyday an update will be pushed out? [18:59] So, something new can break every day? [18:59] eredai [19:00] hold on.. [19:00] I think it might have been ssweeny that posted it on twitter. [19:01] ssweeny: was it you? :-P [19:01] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opensuse-and-ubuntu-rollercoasters [19:01] Title: The openSUSE and Ubuntu Rollercoasters | Linux Journal (at www.linuxjournal.com) [19:01] The Register quoted Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Canonical and Ubuntu, as saying he would be moving the popular distribution from its six-month release cycle to daily updates through the Ubuntu Software Center. This sent shock waves throughout Ubuntu with lots of cheers and a few jeers, but mostly lots more speculation. Some thought this was another indication of Canonical's newly forming direction while many worried that more bugs and instability [19:02] eh. my pc is filled w/ bugs, it really doesnt matter [19:03] plus, i get Update monitor asking for me to allow updates anyways almost every week [19:03] so theres no real diff [19:03] Right - but there are certain things that only change with major releases whereas with said ^ system, it could happen.. anytime [19:03] Or - that's how I'd imagine it works. [19:04] @stats [19:04] jthan: I have 2 registered users with 1 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. [19:04] logs? [19:04] we haz logs, http://ubuntupennsylvania.org/PennBot/ or What happens in #ubuntu-us-pa stays in the logs [19:04] i'd welcome it i guess. i have no sound so if it helps me to get some, i'd gladly be alll for it [19:04] jthan: what did i do now? [19:05] ssweeny: Did you RT that link that I just shared? About the possibility for "rolling releases" of sorts with Ubuntu? [19:05] * ssweeny posted no such link about rolling releases [19:05] and besides that was just a rumor [19:05] Was it? [19:05] * jthan doesn't know [19:05] I just read it. [19:06] the man himself said that wasn't what they're doing [19:06] "the man" [19:06] haha [19:06] he said it should be easier to get fixes into ubu [19:06] I see. [19:06] and that might include updating packages more often [19:06] Well thank you for furthering our Ubuntu education. [19:06] * ssweeny does what he can [19:06] he was just talking about ppas and other rapid dev tools [19:07] mangling that into "ubuntu becomes rolling release" gets more page hits though :) [19:07] Haha. I'd imagine. [19:07] If Ubuntu /did/ become rolling release, I'd probably throw a party. [19:07] I would invite everyone I knew. And everyone I don't know. [19:08] pleia2: on a similar note (but not really) when is Debian 6.0 set to be stable? [19:08] "when it's ready" [19:09] * jthan puts it on his calendar [19:09] they don't really do estimates, probably early next year though, the beta2 installer just came out last week [19:09] RC bugs are still over 100, so it won't be by the end of the year [19:10] Yeah I saw your approval of the installer. Haha [19:10] I was going to work on Debian bugs for Google Code in but then I got hit hard with work so.. :-( [19:10] yeah, mostly I'm just happy they didn't mess it up, still the good old debian installer I know and love [19:11] I'm a big fan of the ncurses installer. [19:12] yeah, I didn't try their improved gui installer [19:12] The only place I'm using Debian at this point is on my Linode anyhow. [19:12] So that isn't so much of an option even if I liked it. [20:57] BeckySanderlin`x: i always start with lspci to get audio card info and then google that device and the release you are running -someone has encountered fixed/shot/killed themselves prior [20:59] Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X [21:00] @google ubuntu EMU10k1X [21:00] Bugger all, I dunno. [21:00] not a good start [21:00] [ubuntu] [SOLVED] No sound for emu10k1x on Hardy [Archive ...: Title: [ubuntu] [SOLVED] No sound for emu10k1x on Hardy [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org) [21:01] real bot ^ [21:01] google is your friend [21:01] I already had it that way, jedijf. [21:01] google? [21:01] Somebody said google is your friend, jthan [21:01] everyone should [21:01] ha [21:01] Who does Bing get to be friends with? [21:02] bing is a friend of bill's [21:02] Oh. [21:02] bing? [21:02] It has been said that bing is the new default search engine in ie now, jthan [21:02] aa reference, too for bonus points [21:02] bing is also a friend of bill's [21:02] bing? [21:02] It has been said that bing is the new default search engine in ie now or a friend of bill's, jedijf [21:15] bing is nice i think. [21:15] alittle more linux compatability with silverlight would be nice though. [21:17] technically speaking, anything is more than zero [21:31] moonlight fails [21:39] True, but in the same sentence, I must add, moonlight != silverlight [21:39] moonlight < silverlight [21:39] which is less than sunlight! [21:39] don't even get me started about sun... :p [21:39] daystar? [21:39] http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19991208 [21:40] GRRRRR... ive had it. [21:41] the joys of Linux \o/ [21:41] * jthan wants a new distro [21:41] just to be different. [21:42] now theres no sound in games. [21:42] it used to have sound [21:42] even in Steam games [21:42] but i musta did something b/c theres no sound in Steam [21:42] im sad [21:42] one thing tho.. Vent + Wine works [21:42] but that used to work in my old config [21:43] Steam.. you using wine there too? [21:43] wine... [21:43] i wonder if i should.. [21:43] Is there a linux native steam client? [21:43] yes jthan [21:43] ooh. [21:43] no [21:43] alright. [21:43] What games do you play? [21:43] * jthan never had a whole lot of luck with wine + games + Linux [21:44] http://steamcommunity.com/id/BeckySanderlin/games?tab=all [21:44] Title: Steam Community :: c.BeckySanderlin :: Games (at steamcommunity.com) [21:45] i play more but for some reason steam doesnt display those [21:45] dang. [21:45] anyways.. DNL is coming on shortly. need foods then TV [21:45] http://twitter.com/#!/google/statuses/14797714273337344 [21:45] Title: Twitter (at twitter.com) [21:45] thanks for trying to help [22:00] ssweeny: did you buy that bundle? I don't know about the others, but Braid remains one of my favorite games.