[05:32] <nuvolari> welcome back everyone
[05:35] <superfly> morning nuvolari
[05:49] <nuvolari> morning superfly
[05:50] <maiatoday> hi all
[06:25] <Kilos> morning superfly and everyone else
[06:26] <superfly> hey Kilos
[06:26] <Kilos> i need some help please. if i minimise anything it disappears/hides is there a way i can fix it
[06:26] <Kilos> how you superfly and the family?
[06:27] <superfly> Kilos: sounds like you removed the task manager from your lower panel?
[06:27] <Kilos> we have had a few power cuts in the last 2 weeks and it started after one of them
[06:28] <Kilos> where do i find this task manager please?\
[06:28] <superfly> Kilos: I don't use Gnome, so I don't know, but in most DE's, you just right-click the panel where you want it, and then select "add" or "customise" or something like that
[06:30] <Kilos> ty superfly i will look for it. i member after one power cut it lucid asked if it must recover lotsa stuff and i thought it meant programs i had open so i said no
[06:30] <Kilos> since then i got the prob
[06:30] <Kilos> lol
[06:30] <Kilos> i learn the hard way
[06:33] <Kilos> maybe its got another name in gnome
[06:33] <Kilos> i find no task manager
[06:33] <superfly> i saw in a thread somewhere that you need to add the "application menu" ?
[06:34] <Kilos> i check quick
[06:35] <Kilos> hmm i only got an application launcher. will see what that does 
[06:38] <superfly> Kilos: you need to add the Window List
[06:42] <Kilos> ty very much superfly  its working again
[06:42] <Kilos> you didnt say how the family is
[06:43] <superfly> Kilos: we're fine, but I think we're looking forward to a bit of a break at the end of the year
[06:43] <Kilos> yeah must be. been a long busy year hey
[06:43] <superfly> yup
[06:46] <Kilos> i will pop in and out. xchat alone has used 100kB in 15 mins. have a good day everyone
[06:46] <Kilos> quick coffee
[06:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:46]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[06:48] <Kilos> im even learning to play mahjongg
[06:48] <Kilos> hehe
[06:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:50] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie baie
[06:50] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[06:50] <Kilos> grrr
[06:50] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks alot
[06:50] <Maaz> Kilos: np
[06:51] <Kilos> cheers all please be good
[07:29] <nlsthzn> morning
[07:29] <oomkoos> morning
[07:30] <nlsthzn> anyone here clues up with uploading torrents?
[07:31] <superfly> nope, I don't generally torrent
[07:32] <nlsthzn> so annoying... not sure if i am doing something wrong, if it is the client or what :( with SA's internet prices I can believe not many use torrents
[07:35] <superfly> nlsthzn: plenty people do, it's just that I don't partake in piracy, and thus the number of useful torrents for me is almost negligable
[07:38] <oomkoos> piracy is wrong... but i love doing it anyway :D
[07:38] <superfly> oomkoos: yes, so you're one of the many that makes this worse for people like me who try to do things right
[07:39] <nlsthzn> superfly: trying to upload a linux distro torrent actually :)
[07:40] <superfly> nlsthzn: I never accused you of piracy... just said that it is the reason most people torrent
[07:42] <nlsthzn> superfly: I know, was just saying... I need help for a noble cause :p
[07:42] <superfly> haha
[07:43] <linuxboy> apparently facebook use torrents to distribute their deployments
[07:43] <superfly> nlsthzn: I honestly don't know... I know people have torrent files, and those need to have "announce" urls, but that's about as far as I know
[07:44] <oomkoos> ten to one superfly. not a fan of pirating software & games. i do torrent quite a few series. and whenever i CAN afford to buy the original i do so. But series box sets are insanely priced
[07:44] <nlsthzn> superfly: I suspect that the announce is where I am also failing
[07:45] <superfly> oomkoos: indeed, I know, I've bought the whole of one series... over about 6 or 7 months
[07:48] <oomkoos> yes it takes time and respect to you for doing that. you'll find quite a lot of original material in my house ranging from music to dvd's to xbox games and series. my mentality is not that "why should i pay if i can get it for free" but for the value of entertainment i think i would have died of boredom many many years ago if it wasn't for series and movies you either got from friends or downloaded yourself. not trying to justify wha
[07:50] <oomkoos> nlsthzn try uploading your torrent to a well known site. let them do the announcing part. you need a site which can track where what is of the torrent
[07:55] <superfly> oomkoos: why are you explaining all this to me?
[08:04] <nlsthzn> oomkoos: a few years ago I got rid of all my pirate stuff... a big black bag full of cd/dvd's and yes, I am uploading to a tracker site
[08:04] <oomkoos> superfly: like i said... just putting it out there :) also i'm bored stiff at work. so pick one :D
[08:06] <oomkoos> nlsthzn: what tracker site? how many connected to your torrent? any errors?
[08:09] <nlsthzn> www.linuxtracker.com and I can upload the file, others can get it but I am the initial seeder and my client is seeding but nobody is recieving this initial seed
[08:09] <superfly> nlsthzn: most probably because no one knows about it?
[08:10] <oomkoos> nlsthzn: what is the name of the torrent?
[08:12] <nlsthzn> :) there is a demand for them... the problem is the link to my client seeding isn't being made... I upload the file, then I download it, normally my client will see I am seeding it already and then add my info and then everyone else sees me as the seeder, but now when I re-download the torrent file my client starts downloading the file anew... and then nobody else sees me as the initial seeder
[08:17] <oomkoos> sounds like the original file source and download destination are different
[08:19] <nlsthzn> oomkoos: they are... oO my default save for downloading torrents is different from the place I uploaded it from 
[08:19] <nlsthzn> oh wow
[08:19] <nlsthzn> if it is going to be so easy...
[08:19] <nlsthzn> let me check
[08:25] <nlsthzn> didn't work, however... all I did was to download the torrent I uploaded... it verified the iso on disc and then this new file I am seeding is showing me as a seeder
[08:25] <nlsthzn> so it works 
[08:25] <nlsthzn> thanks for all the assistance
[08:25] <oomkoos> glad it works
[13:42] <harmony1001> empathy 2.32.1 does not support the /msg command the command is not available when i type /help? how do i register my nickname?
[13:46] <maiatoday> harmony1001: o DPM
[13:46] <maiatoday> oops
[13:46] <maiatoday> sorry
[13:46] <maiatoday> there may be a configuration for the account in empathy that will do the register
[13:47] <maiatoday> harmony1001: I don't have it open here but let me run up a virtual box for you
[13:49] <maiatoday> ok no I'll have to try to remember I think there was a place when you create the irc account to add a password
[13:49] <maiatoday> then it will do the command when it connects in the beginning
[13:51] <harmony1001> maiatoday: where do i specify my email address? there is space for a password in account add!
[13:53] <maiatoday> not sure
[13:54] <maiatoday> ok wait, I think the password is used when you have already registered
[13:54] <maiatoday> just to identify yourself
[13:55] <maiatoday> do you get a conversation with nickserv when you log in
[13:55] <maiatoday> you may be able to type the bit after the /msg command in the nickserv conversation
[13:55]  * maiatoday hasn't used empathy for irc for ages
[13:56] <maiatoday> or otherwise is there a menu way to create a conversatino with nickserv
[13:56] <harmony1001> maiatoday: what client do you use
[13:56] <maiatoday> weechat
[13:56] <maiatoday> but I am at work now so I use pidgin
[13:57] <maiatoday> unfortunately at work there is no ubuntu
[13:58] <maiatoday> but if anyone else was here they would suggest their favourite irc client, it is a contensious topic :)
[14:07] <confluency> harmony1001: Have you *tried* /msg?
[14:07] <confluency> harmony1001: yeah, also try opening a chat window to nickserv.
[14:08] <confluency> Otherwise, you can register from a different client, or mibbit.  It's a server thing, not a client thing.
[16:07] <Morganvd> howdie all
[18:22] <nuvolari> howdie Morganvd
[18:22]  * nuvolari tips hat
[19:31] <nlsthzn> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/14/chrome-os-richard-stallman-warning
[19:34] <Tonberry> agreed
[19:34] <Tonberry> the cloud scares me
[19:39] <nlsthzn> It is so white and FLUFFY!
[19:39] <Tonberry> altho the last comment about loic seems incorrect
[19:39] <Tonberry> its on sourceforge
[19:39] <Tonberry> with source
[19:40] <Tonberry> or at least an svn...
[19:40] <Tonberry> that most likely contains source....
[19:41] <nlsthzn> don't know about that...
[20:16] <inetpro_> good evening