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deathmanhey all00:35
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pteaguethe number of possible things that can make something fail seems to increase with age01:14
charlie-tca+101:15
pteagueyay... finally got nvidia working with the newest kernel... & you know what my problem was?01:15
pteaguefor some reason i had linux-headers installed for 2.6.32-21 & 2.6.32-25... but not for 2.6.32-26 >.<  so installed linux-headers-generic again & hopefully that will fix the issue for a couple of kernels...01:17
pteagueheh, & now i was freaking out because i couldn't get sound... & then realized i had my headphones turned off <.<01:31
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Newbie hello...i`ve installed xubuntu 10.10 and the pppoeconf cmd doesen`t work... even in the live CD it says something like : /usr/sbin/pppoeconf: 523 : modconf : not found | unknown terminal : unknown | Check the term enviroment variable....11:49
Newbieanyone knows why?11:50
Sysiit's fixed in updates11:50
Sysitry: export $TERM=xterm11:50
Newbiein the live CD that doesen`t work.. besides.. i`ve managed to remove the pppoe and pppoeconf on my xubuntu instalation11:53
Newbiebut didn`t manage to add new packages from a disk11:54
Newbiei`ve downloaded pppoe and pppoeconf from they site...and it doesen`t lewt me to add then in synaptic...and if i run them from the disk it shows some error...11:56
Sysiyou should install packages from repositories11:56
Sysiif exactly right program isn't there, some alternative propably is11:57
Newbiewell...if i don`t have internet...i can`t install anything11:57
Newbieonly if , as repositories, is a CD11:57
Sysihum, i've never really used ppoe11:58
Newbiebtw..you said something about updates...11:59
Newbiewhere do i get those?11:59
Sysiinternet problems are the hardest ones :P12:00
Newbiekeep in mind that i can`t update ( no internet)12:00
Newbieso i should add the updates in another method..12:00
Newbiein 10.04 this problem exists?12:00
Sysinope12:01
Newbiewith the pppoeconf12:01
Newbieohh...are there big gaps between the two releases?12:01
Sysidifferent bugs12:01
Sysiin 10.10 you could use xterm12:01
Newbiebtw... i`m new to linux... a few days testing distros ... i don`t know what xtrem is :|12:02
Sysianother terminal12:02
Newbieohhh..12:03
Sysialt f2 and type xterm12:03
Newbiewell.. i`ll think i`ll go to 10.04 until i`ll find a way to solve my problem12:03
SysiLTS isn't bad solution12:04
Newbiebtw... i have a debian 5,0 dvd.. since xubuntu is debian based... should i be able to get those packages from that cd?12:06
Newbiei can apt=cdrom add to add it to repositories12:06
Sysithey propably aren't compliant12:06
Newbiefailed to fetch cdrom ... before this it shows me he is about to install them tho..12:08
Newbiepppoe and pppoeconf tho..12:08
Newbieahh...nvm.. i`ll go for 10.04.. thx for the help anyway12:09
chmodif you do that, you may aswell just install 10.10 :P12:10
chmodlucid is fine, but maverick is where it's at12:10
Newbiewell..i`ve installed 10.1012:11
Newbiepppoeconf doesen`t work12:11
Newbiecan`t manage to establish my internet connection12:12
chmodhrmm, a bit beyond my expertise, but it is installed on mine, i'm just not really using it - dhcp ftw12:14
Newbiewell..you`ve probably updated and that was fixed12:14
Newbiei can`t update since i don`t have an internet connection...12:15
Newbie:D12:15
Newbiei have 4 cables in my house..all run on pppoe12:15
chmodheh12:15
chmodand I guess you don't have pppstatus?12:15
chmodit's a console-based PPP status monitor, i'm guessing it would have helped.12:16
Newbienope... i removed all ppp that ware in synaptic... and i got pppoe and pppoeconf from theyr site12:17
Newbiethought i can add them12:17
Newbiebut i can`t add those 2 packages... it won`t let me12:17
chmod:(12:18
chmodsomeone will have a fix, it's just a matter of waiting for them to be active12:18
Newbieehh...don`t rly want to wait...anyway...c`ya later.. have to shut down this PC12:19
chmodI just managed to get connected today, I moved house, so I spent the afternoon playing with my router12:19
chmodlater12:19
Newbiethx for the help12:19
root_tigerالسلام عليكم12:20
root_tigerالصلاه خلو عنكم الاوبنتو والكومبنيز والكلام الفاضي12:20
root_tigerبرب12:20
chmodinteresting.12:21
usrehello14:03
usrei need help by installing vmwareplayer14:03
usredoes anyone knows about kernel Headers in xubuntu14:04
usre10.1014:04
Thermijust write14:05
Thermibtw: i'm gone in a few mins...14:05
Thermi:p14:05
ThermiI have to go and buy some stoff14:05
usreok14:06
usreive installed corectly version 2.5.514:06
usreof vmwareplayer14:06
charlie-tcaI am sure we have someone that knows something about kernel Headers. Please ask your question, all on one line if possible. If someone does know, they will answer.14:06
Thermicharlie-tca: exactly. :p14:07
Thermii'm away,,,14:07
Thermi*...14:07
B-r00tusre: why you not use VirtualBox?14:09
usrewhen i start it with sudo vmplayer a popup will be open an quests for Kernel Headers 2.6.35-23-generic. i can select the path because the installer hasnt found the right one. but i dont for what im searching. i have installed these Headers. i tried to set /usr/src/xyz-generic ut it doesnt accept this14:10
usrei have sessions as vmware from an windows vmware Workstation and wont use another program14:12
usrethe errormessage if i selected an wrong path is: C header files matching your running kernel were not found.  Refer to your distribution's documentation for installation instructions.14:14
charlie-tcausre: type     uname -a     in a terminal, hit enter, and tell us what you get14:15
usre2.6.35-23-generic14:15
charlie-tcaand you did restart after installing the kernel headers?14:16
usrehmm i think but im not shure14:17
usrei restart now ok14:17
charlie-tcait takes effect on the restart14:17
usrei'll back in 2 minutes14:18
usreso hello again14:22
usresame error after sudo vmplayer14:22
usreuname -a = Linux xubunetbook 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 10:18:49 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux14:23
charlie-tcaYou installed the linux-image with the header, right?14:25
usrei dont know -> linuxNewbee14:25
charlie-tcaI have never used vmware, myself. Virtualbox is much easier14:26
charlie-tca!vmware14:26
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware14:26
charlie-tcaPerhaps the link there will help14:26
charlie-tca!vmplayer14:27
charlie-tcaNext question, where did you get vmplayer from?14:27
usrei search since hours into the internet and doesnt find what im searching for. but i try it thanks.  Directly from vmware.14:28
charlie-tcaMight be better to ask them directly how to make it work. It is not supported at all in Ubuntu/Xubuntu14:28
usreok i try the link and if this doesnt works i change to another distibution.14:31
charlie-tcaOkay. thanks14:31
usrethank to you. :-)14:32
nicofsI want to install Xubuntu on an ARM-Device (Toshiba AC100). I've managed to get a kernel that supports it, but it's nothing but the kernel as *.tgz, When I boot from it, all i get is a console. How do i add the Xubuntu installer to it?14:38
charlie-tcaxubuntu doesn't use arm builds yet14:39
nicofsso no chance?14:39
charlie-tcathey will fail with it, I think14:40
charlie-tcanot yet14:40
nicofsbecause afaik, 80% of ubuntu packages is available as arm...14:40
charlie-tcaWe are hoping to get it working around the end of January14:41
charlie-tcabut ubuntu is not Xfce14:41
nicofsi know...14:41
nicofsso i'll repeat my question at #ubuntu...14:41
nicofs(without the X, obviously)14:41
charlie-tcaWhat about installing the ubuntu arm image, and then adding xubuntu-desktop?14:42
charlie-tcaI don't know if it will work, but might be worth a try14:42
nicofsthere is a ready-to-use ubuntu netbook remix kernel... but i'd rather die - or continue using android - which is basically the same...14:43
charlie-tcaremix was replaced by http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/14:44
nicofsthat's what i mean... but changing the name doesn't improve the system...^^14:45
charlie-tcaIt is the unity desktop. It won't really work with Xfce14:46
nicofscharlie-tca: do you know how chroot works? if i just insert the usb key with the kernel, mount it, chroot to it and install ubuntu... would that work?14:49
charlie-tcaI don't know chroot at all.14:49
wizardslovakhello people15:01
wizardslovakanyone here?15:01
Myrttisure15:02
wizardslovaki just turned pc on and i see my upper and lower taskbars are missing15:02
wizardslovakboth blinked at the start15:02
wizardslovakbut noowhere to find15:02
B-r00tpress Alt+F215:02
B-r00tand type15:02
B-r00txfce4-panel15:02
nicofswizardslovak: try "xfce4-panel" in a console...15:03
nicofsoh... someone was faster...15:03
wizardslovakok got it15:03
wizardslovaknow id like to know why it happened15:03
wizardslovakis there logs or something?15:03
wizardslovaki dont feel llike to type that command everytime i start pc15:03
Myrttiit was probably a glitch of some sort, I wouldn't start worrying unless on next boot it does the same15:04
Sysiif you want to be sure, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and save session on logout15:05
wizardslovakMyrtti, after it happened first time , i restarted pc and same think15:05
wizardslovakso i am sure it will happene again15:06
nicofswizardslovak: i happens sometimes. i've had that aswell... but after manually startin the panel and rebooting it was there after every reboot so far15:06
wizardslovakok thank you15:07
wizardslovak;)15:07
wizardslovaki never used xubuntu15:07
nicofsi learned to love it after ubuntu introduced "ubuntu one"...15:08
wizardslovakhehe15:08
wizardslovaki used to use kubuntu15:08
wizardslovakand U-server15:08
wizardslovak2 days ago i decided i wont use windows nomore so xubuntu15:09
wizardslovak;)15:09
wizardslovaklove it so far15:09
Sysisometimes i feel lonely when i like kde 4-series15:09
nicofs^^ kde isn't as popular as it was, i guess...15:09
wizardslovakdont get me wrong15:09
wizardslovaki like kde415:10
Sysii think kde is more popular than ever15:10
wizardslovaki just felt like to get something new15:10
Sysibut far from xfce's style15:10
wizardslovakxfce is not really known as kde or gnome15:10
wizardslovaki am actually thinking to use xubuntu as my home server15:14
wizardslovakas i didnt find any ps3 media server which i can run from ubuntu-server terminal15:14
Newbiehello....did anyone installed theyr pppoe connection in xubuntu 10.10? when running pppoeconf it shows this : TERM environment variable needs set. /usr/sbin/pppoeconf :523 : modconf : not found.15:44
Sysidid you try it on xterm?15:45
charlie-tcaand the answer from asking the same question earlier15:45
charlie-tca<Sysi> try: export $TERM=xterm15:45
Newbiebtw..tryed 10.04...it almost the same15:46
Newbiebrb...switching pcs15:46
charlie-tcaNewbie: 10.04 does not have the TERM variable issue15:46
Newbieback...it worked.. it runs the pppoeconf.. tho it doesen`t pop up the fields for username/pwd/provider... like it did in ubuntu..15:51
Newbieso any ideeas how can i put the username and password when it configures the pppoe?15:57
nicofsNewbie: what are you doing exactly? connecting to internet via modem?16:19
Newbienicofs no... cable.. just that my ISP gives me an username and a passwor to connect16:32
Newbiein wind XP it makes like a dial-up connection16:32
Newbiewhen using pppoe16:32
nicofshave you tried wvdial?16:32
Newbiewvdial?16:32
Newbieas my nick says...i`m new to linux...16:33
nicofsa console-based program16:33
nicofs'sudo apt-get wvdial' in console...16:33
nicofsNewbie: first run 'wvdialconf' in console after installation...16:34
Newbiethe package is not install..16:35
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Newbieand apt-get instal wvdial requires internet conection16:35
Newbieinstalled*16:35
Newbieas i said...when you run in ubuntu (10.10 for example) pppoeconf it lets you configure it and it asks you about your usename and pwd16:36
nicofshttp://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstagn/GPRS-HOWTO/GPRS-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.316:36
nicofsdon't know if that helps16:37
Newbieit doesen`t... as i said..i looks like dial up but it isn`t..16:37
charlie-tcaNewbie: do you have the network-manager applet in the upper right corner?16:38
Newbieyes16:38
Newbietried at DSL to configure it16:38
Newbieit just doesen`t work16:38
charlie-tcaright-click it and see if there is an option there16:38
Newbiewell..i have configure or edit ..smth like that16:39
charlie-tcaI'm starting a live cd to try and see if I can help you with that, then.16:39
Newbiefor posible networks to configure...cable/broadband/wireless/DSL16:39
charlie-tcanicofs: Newbie can not connect to the internet until pppoeconf is set up16:39
Newbieapreciate it charlie-tca16:40
Newbie:D16:40
charlie-tcano promises16:40
Newbiedon`t want to quit xubuntu just over some pppoeconf problem :|16:40
Newbieit looks nice16:41
charlie-tcatry this Applications -> Accessories -> terminal16:42
charlie-tcatype     sudo pppoeconf16:42
charlie-tcahit enter16:42
charlie-tcawhat did you get?16:42
Newbiewell..in that terminal i get ... TERM envirenment variable needs set. /usr/sbin/pppoeconf: 523 : modconf : not found.16:44
Newbieyou should get something similar on live CD... runing forever..16:44
charlie-tcadid the prompt come back or is it blinking on a blank line?16:44
charlie-tcahit Ctlr+C16:45
Newbieit says that over and over again16:45
Newbiei did16:45
charlie-tcashould have a prompt again, then16:45
Newbiei switched on xterm like sysi said..16:45
charlie-tcatype        export $TERM=xterm16:46
Newbiei did16:46
sosaitedhow can I change themes in Xubuntu jaunty?16:46
charlie-tcanow try it again16:46
charlie-tcasosaited: Jaunty is no longer supported16:46
charlie-tcaYou need to upgrade16:46
Newbieyes...and it pops out that script16:46
Newbieleting me know it fin my network card16:46
sosaitedcharlie-tca, This is a LTS version..16:47
Newbiehiting OK will make it load..16:47
Newbiebut it will not ask me for any username and password16:47
charlie-tcaJaunty is not LTS16:47
charlie-tca8.04 was LTS, it is supported for 5 months yet16:47
Newbieif you have an ubuntu live cd and type ppppoeconf in a terminal you`ll see that it lets you configure it16:47
sosaitedcharlie-tca, I have 9.0416:48
charlie-tca9.04 is not LTS16:48
charlie-tcasosaited: here are the supported versions now - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/16:49
charlie-tcaNewbie: you in 10.04 or 10.10?16:50
sosaitedcharlie-tca, I am in 9.0416:50
charlie-tcasosaited: you can see on the link that it is no longer supported16:50
charlie-tcayou need to upgrade to a newer version that is in the chart16:50
charlie-tcaNewbie: 10.04 or 10.10?16:51
Newbie10.1016:51
Newbie10.04 pppoeconf runs the same as pppoeconf in xterm in 10.1016:52
Newbietried to switch to 10.04 earlier thinking it will solve the problem16:52
charlie-tcaokay, booting 10.1016:53
charlie-tcaMy Virtualbox is broken16:54
charlie-tcatoo many cd's and vbox machines16:55
charlie-tcaheh, locked up natty16:56
charlie-tcabooting, slowly16:57
Newbiei have time :)16:58
Newbiehope you have too16:58
charlie-tcabooting16:59
charlie-tcaHow bad can it get when you three systems break at one time?16:59
Newbieit can be worse..always :)17:00
Newbiei`m reading some forums..and some ppl said they managed to configure it form "edit connections" near the clock..using DSL17:02
Newbietried that a few times...and it is not working.17:02
Newbiei`ve installed xubuntu in dual boot with XP and the internet is working on XP.. but on xubuntu it looks like a network cable is uplugged..17:03
charlie-tcaDo you use a static IP?17:04
Newbiebtw...i`m using an onboard LAN...17:04
Newbieno..it`s dinamic..17:04
Newbieeach time i connect it switches17:04
charlie-tcatry it. right-click that arrow set if it is there, or network manager17:05
charlie-tcathen click DSL17:05
charlie-tcathen click Add17:05
Newbiei did.. all that... wrote username..psw..provider...set it to PPPOE automaticaly17:06
charlie-tcaclick apply17:06
Newbiei did that also :D17:06
charlie-tcait will try to find the connection17:06
Newbieand it says disconected..17:06
Newbiei have a PCI network card..should i try with that?17:07
charlie-tcaIf it isn't doing anything, right click the network manager, left click enable Networking17:07
Newbieit`s enabled17:07
Newbiei checked that17:07
charlie-tcadisable it17:07
charlie-tcathen enable it again17:07
Newbie1 sec...have t run in the other room at that pc... but as far as i remmber ..i did that also17:08
Newbiebbr17:08
Newbiebrb17:08
Newbieback..17:13
Newbiedid that..and other stuff that i thought should work..17:13
Newbieand ..nothing works :)17:13
charlie-tcastill here17:13
charlie-tcafound the right reference for this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE#Configuration%20by%20hand17:14
charlie-tcahow to create the file without the pppoeconf running17:15
Newbiegoing to try17:16
Newbie1 sec17:16
charlie-tcaYou have to do it using root, so hit ALT+F2, type gksu thunar17:16
charlie-tcathen use thunar to go     file system, etc, ppp17:17
charlie-tcayou can right click to create a new file, and can right click, open to edit the files you need to17:17
Arpad2hello17:22
charlie-tca!hi | Arpad217:23
ubottuArpad2: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!17:23
Arpad2the desktop background image appears only in black-white colours17:24
Arpad2I think this is related to my new video card17:24
Arpad2also the screensaver doesnt work :(17:24
Arpad2instead of pics and graphics eror message come up17:25
B-r00tdo you have installed driver?17:26
Arpad2& I cant open the synaptic's window17:26
Arpad2B-r00t: I dont know17:26
B-r00ttype in terminal17:27
B-r00tlspci | grep -i vga17:27
Arpad2yestarday I made apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common17:28
B-r00tgo to system -> hardware drivers17:28
pcfreak30Hello. I recently reset a friends linux password via root shell. Now I can login though command line, but not through the gui. it goes though, but kicks me back to the  login screen. Any Help?17:29
Arpad2B-root : http://paste.ubuntu.com/543707/17:29
pcfreak30No I am not breaking in, they forgot their pass, lol17:29
B-r00tArpad2: do you ahve any driver in system -> hardware drivers?17:30
B-r00thave*17:30
charlie-tcapcfreak30: so you are getting the gdm login screen repeating?17:30
Arpad2B-r00t: I dont have that menu, under System no harware drivers is available17:31
charlie-tcaArpad2: might be called additional drivers or something17:31
Arpad2ok17:32
pcfreak30charlie-tca, yes. its xfce. Its doesnt say login failure either. I did a "passwd aaron" in root shell via recovery boot entry.17:32
charlie-tcapcfreak30: and you restarted the computer after changing it?17:33
pcfreak30i typed reboot17:33
pcfreak30and went normal17:33
Arpad2charlie-tca,B-r00t: ok , it found sth which should be installed17:33
pcfreak30its like the gui and cli are comflicting. i can login in a basic tty, not the gui though17:34
charlie-tcapcfreak30: okay, we will wipe out some of the configuration settings to reset it17:34
charlie-tcafrom gdm, you can go to a tty using CTRL+ALT+F117:35
charlie-tcalogin17:35
pcfreak30yea17:35
pcfreak30go into a tty17:35
pcfreak30yea17:35
pcfreak30i can login to shell17:35
pcfreak30tip. the pc is accross the street, so ill be doing it from memory17:35
charlie-tcaokay.17:36
charlie-tcagoing into /home/USER/17:36
charlie-tcaremove .cache17:36
pcfreak30that a folder or file?17:36
charlie-tcafolder17:36
pcfreak30k17:37
charlie-tcaIf it still won't work, you go to /home/USER/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml17:37
charlie-tcanote those dots in the directory17:37
pcfreak30so. xfce caches the users pass?17:38
pcfreak30that really sounds like a security flaw to me, tbh17:38
charlie-tcaremove the file in there called xfce4-session17:38
charlie-tcaDoesn't cache the password, but it jams up saving sessions sometimes17:38
charlie-tcaWe never cache the password in the users home directory17:39
charlie-tcabut that will let you login through gdm again17:39
Arpad2charlie-tca,B-r00t: however, the recommended driver is installed17:41
Newbiecharlie-tca i`ve edit the first file and created the 2nd file under the name RDS... i use : pon RDS and it says i must me a member of "dip" group to use that cmd17:41
charlie-tcaThat's easy. go back in with gksu thunar, navigate to /etc/groups17:42
charlie-tcaedit the file to add yourself, carefully17:42
charlie-tcaor go in through Applciations -> System -> Users and groups17:43
charlie-tcamanage groups17:43
charlie-tcafind DIP, put a checkmark on your user name,17:43
charlie-tcathen you have to logout/login for it to take effect17:44
B-r00tArpad2: now reboot17:44
Newbieoke..thx...going to try it17:44
Arpad2B-r00t? I havent done anything yet , because the recommended driver is installed17:44
charlie-tcawas it already installed or did you tell it to activate it?17:46
Arpad2charlie-tca: it was17:46
Arpad2istalled already17:47
charlie-tcaB-r00t: next ?17:48
B-r00tArpad2: try to enable composing17:48
B-r00tin window manager properties17:48
Arpad2ok17:49
pcfreak30charlie-tca, um i think the issue is it couldnt get through ecrypt. idk why but the home directory is encrypted...17:50
pcfreak30so no way around that17:50
B-r00tArpad2: go to settings manager -> window manager tweaks17:50
Arpad2thx:)17:51
Arpad2ok17:51
Arpad2I enabled it17:52
B-r00tenabled?17:52
B-r00tok17:52
charlie-tcapcfreak30: it is the way the installation was done. that is an option17:52
B-r00ttry to change wallpaper17:52
Arpad2B-r00t : black&white remains17:53
pcfreak30charlie-tca, is there anyway to change the encryption pass when changing the system pass?17:53
B-r00t:|17:53
Newbiecharlie-tca using "pon RDS" (aka pon dsl-provider) it only loads rp-pppoe and that`s about it..17:53
charlie-tcapcfreak30: Not that I know of17:54
charlie-tca!encrypt17:54
ubottuFor information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory17:54
charlie-tcaNewbie: I am at the end of my ability now17:54
Newbiewell.. thank you for your time and help..17:55
charlie-tcaNewbie: I would say to install UBuntu, add "xubuntu-desktop" and then remove the gnome stuff using pure xfce17:55
Newbiei`ll try some ubuntu forums.. maybe i`ll find some answers..17:55
charlie-tca!purexfce17:55
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »17:55
charlie-tcaThat lets you get online the easiest, right?17:55
Newbiesd fsr sd i remember when using ubuntu 10.10 ... after installing my video card i had 300x200 resolution and coudn`t change it :)17:56
Newbieas far as*17:56
Newbiei hope it won`t happen again..17:56
charlie-tcathat's easy to fix - install hardware drivers; then create the /etc/xorg.conf file with the right resolution17:58
charlie-tcaIf the file exists, it gets used, but it does not exist by default17:58
pcfreak30charlie-tca, so any way to change the pass that was used to encrypt the home directory?17:58
Newbiebtw..only that cmd line is all17:58
Newbie?17:58
Newbieto pass from ubuntu to xfce xubuntu?17:58
charlie-tcato add xubuntu to Ubuntu, use      sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop17:59
charlie-tcathen you here - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce17:59
charlie-tcaand remove the extra stuff for gnome that you don't need anymore17:59
charlie-tcapcfreak30: not that I know of17:59
charlie-tcaIt should use the desktop login password to decrypt18:00
charlie-tcaand it doesn't know what that is anymore18:00
pcfreak30charlie, yes. but if its decrypted and mounted, how can u change the key?18:04
charlie-tcachanging the password through Users and Groups should update the gnome keyring for it18:05
charlie-tcaAlthough I am not sure. Perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory tells?18:06
pcfreak30it does nor18:39
pcfreak30not18:39
crawlerhello.  is it ok to remove the cups package since i don''t have a printer?  it wants to take xubuntu-desktop with it!?19:23
Sysixubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage19:23
crawleri assume that means it's ok to remove cups..thank you Sysi19:24
crawlerso, removing libcups2 will basically bork my entire system?19:30
lostkidHello?19:33
charlie-tcaHello, lostkid19:34
lostkidI am having some issues with ubuntu 10.10 could you help?19:35
charlie-tcaPlease ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.19:35
lostkidWhen i put the CD for ubuntu 10.10 64 bit the screen comes up blurry as if not syncing and it will not allow me to install the full version of Ubuntu onto my machine, it will begin the setup process but end at the screen that prompts you for your persinal information such as name and the name of the computer with a username and password19:37
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charlie-tcaTried the 32bit version?19:38
crawlerso, removing libcups2 will basically bork my entire system?19:38
lostkidI have19:38
charlie-tcaSometimes downloading again helps too19:38
lostkidAlright, i will redownload it and try again19:38
charlie-tca!info libcups219:39
ubottulibcups2 (source: cups): Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-6ubuntu2.2 (maverick), package size 220 kB, installed size 464 kB19:39
charlie-tcasure, crawler19:39
lostkidwhat worries me is i have downloaded and tryed both the 64 and 32 bit version. I was wondering if my system is not compatable with Ubuntu19:39
charlie-tcacrawler: take it back, it looks like it is optional, so it should be removable19:39
charlie-tcalostkid: most likely you have hardware failing, then.19:40
lostkidWhat kind of hardware?19:40
crawlercharlie-tca: when i try to remove it, it wants to take everything else with it.19:40
charlie-tcavideo card or ram19:40
charlie-tcacrawler: then it will break it19:40
bergaschei just bought the humble indie bundle and when i try to install revenge of the titans it says19:41
crawlercharlie-tca: okthanks, just making sure :)19:41
bergascheunable to create `/opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/einleitung.mp3.dpkg-new' (while processing `/opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/einleitung.mp3'): No such file or directory19:41
lostkidThank you Charlie, i will replace the video card and test the ra19:41
charlie-tcacrawler: no problem19:41
charlie-tcalostkid: You´re welcome. Good luck...19:41
charlie-tcabergasche: are you installing using sudo?19:41
bergaschei installed it with19:42
bergaschesudo dpkg -i RevengeOfTheTitans-HIB-amd64.deb19:42
bergascheoh wait19:43
charlie-tcabergasche: don't know, then. Maybe something is wrong with the package?19:43
bergaschei just created /opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/19:43
bergascheand it worked19:43
bergaschevery strange19:44
charlie-tcaSo it is trying to create directories without using root. It is a package error19:44
beardygnomecharlie-tca: are you around?19:45
charlie-tcayes19:45
* charlie-tca is hiding behind the screen, though :-)19:46
beardygnome:-) what's the best way to review the xubuntu documentation docbook files?19:46
beardygnomereading the raw xml isn't working too well for me.19:47
charlie-tcabeardygnome: you downloaded the bzr branch already?19:47
beardygnomeyeah, I've got the lucid and current branches, cos I wasn't sure wjich19:48
beardygnome..to review19:48
beardygnome*which19:48
charlie-tcashould be able to use "yelp xubuntu-docs" I think19:48
* beardygnome will try that now19:48
charlie-tcaI could be wrong, but that is what I used to use19:49
charlie-tcabeardygnome: is there a libs directory in the docs?19:52
beardygnomethere's debian, desktop-guidem, scripts & start-page directories19:53
beardygnomeplus a Makefile19:53
charlie-tcacurrent doesn't have the html :-(19:55
charlie-tcaI will have to grab them then and see what is happening19:56
beardygnomelucid doesn't seem to have the html either19:56
charlie-tcahmm19:56
beardygnomecharlie-tca: I ran "make all" in the xubuntu-docs directory and that created a build directory with all the htmls in20:06
beardygnomerunning "yelp build/index.html" seems to work and all the links are followed20:07
beardygnomeI'll have an better look later, but looks like I'm up and running.20:08
beardygnomethanks charlie-tca, see you later.20:08
stygianmy sound isnt loud enough. how do i turn it above 100%?21:10
B-r00tstygian: in terminal21:12
B-r00talsamixer21:12
B-r00tif you use alsa21:12
stygiantried that.. its already at 100%21:12
stygianand im only using headphones21:12
B-r00tPCM?21:12
stygianmaster, headphone, speaker, pcm, all 10021:13
Sysisee pulseaudio on xfce4-mixer21:13
stygian100%21:14
stygiani remember in gnome i could go to like 150% or so21:14
stygian_<Sysi> see pulseaudio on xfce4-mixer <-- anything after this? seems i peer'd21:24
MorphixNWhello there room, I was hoping that someone maybe able to help me out21:30
MorphixNWI have been using Xbuntu for sometime, but only for basic everyday use21:31
charlie-tcagreat!21:31
MorphixNWI would now like to use it as I would use windows (i am an IT pro), for things such as connecting to network shares and UNC connections etc21:31
MorphixNWwith Bindows I can do pretty much anything. even servers, etc, but xbuntu is a whole different kettle of fish21:32
stygian_well if all else fails, mount -t cifs ;) as for all else, *shrug* for me its just a lighter-weight21:32
stygian_system21:32
MorphixNWin Bindows I would do "Start > run > \\machine_name\sharename"21:33
MorphixNWcan something similar be done in ubuntu?21:33
stygian_in gnome you can, as far as xfce you could a) try it or b) google it21:34
charlie-tcaMost of what works in gnome will also work in Xubuntu21:34
MorphixNWwhere is the "run" box? or can this be done in terminal?21:34
charlie-tcaMorphixNW: Alt+F221:34
charlie-tcaIt can also be done in terminal, I think21:35
MorphixNWif I enter "\\machine_name\share_name" into terminal it says "command not found"21:36
stygian_thats not how you use the terminal. \\machine_name\share_name is not a command21:37
charlie-tca!ics21:37
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php21:37
MorphixNWoh oh ok21:37
stygian_or even a builtin.. you'd have to try 'cd \\machine...'21:37
MorphixNWI dont want to share the internet connection, all my machines have that already, I want to view a windows share21:38
charlie-tca!samba21:38
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.21:38
MorphixNWI am running 10.10 on this particular machine21:38
Sysiyou could use gigolo too21:38
MorphixNWso I can install samba along with SWAT and use a web interface to manage it?21:38
charlie-tcathat server guide should work for 10.04 and 10.10. there are not that many changes21:39
stygian_swat will manage the shares but iirc it doesnt mount them. you'd have to do that with mount via a script or fstab21:39
MorphixNWfstab mounting I can (I think) if its like mounting an additional hard drive, which I have done successfully21:39
stygian_it is exactly like mountain a hard drive (same with mount command) only you use the smbfs/cifs filesystem, and \\machine\share\path as the drive21:40
stygian_mountain?? i meant mounting haha21:41
MorphixNWI have tried using fstab to do it in the past, however, it kept reporting an error21:41
MorphixNWeven tho I know the names etc where correct21:41
MorphixNWI have just install samba and swat21:41
stygian_fstab entry would be like: //machine/share /home/myusername/mount cifs auto 0 021:42
MorphixNWSWAT doesnt appear in my applications list :(21:42
stygian_read about swat21:42
stygian_it isnt an applicatino21:42
stygian_it is a webservice type thing21:42
MorphixNWthis is where I get confused lol21:42
stygian_(or was when i last used it, circa 2002)21:42
MorphixNWhow do I access it?21:43
stygian_read the instructions.. google it.21:43
Sysiterminal programs and daemons aren't in the menu21:43
stygian_(hint: http://localhost:901)21:43
MorphixNWthank you stygian21:43
MorphixNWI am here because googling this one isnt working for me21:43
MorphixNWgoogle has worked for almost everything but this one I cant seem to get21:43
stygian_what is it you want? create a share on linux or access one from linux?21:44
stygian_creating a share: use swat. accessing a share: install samba and mount with smbfs/cifs fstype. \\machine\share becomes //machine/share21:45
MorphixNWaccess a win32 share21:45
Sysi(IMHO windows shares are pain to configure on windows too {7} i could try samba but i don't have any windows machines for testing)21:45
MorphixNWok Stygian let me conf fstab using your advice and if that fails can I post the error in here?21:46
stygian_there should be no error so long as your network gets configured before it attempts to mount the share21:46
MorphixNWI know the share works fine for other win32 based machines21:47
stygian_just try mount -t cifs //machine/share /path21:49
Sysicould be SMB too?21:50
stygian_smbfs is deprecated21:50
MorphixNWwhere /path being where I want it mounting?21:51
stygian_yes21:51
MorphixNWok let me have a bash21:51
MorphixNWhahah no pun intended21:51
stygian_;p21:51
stygian_44bsd-csh ftw21:51
* stygian_ hides behind something21:51
MorphixNWsay wot now? lol21:52
MorphixNWif I do "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.100/WWW_root" it show me mount usage info21:53
stygian_you didnt give it a path21:53
MorphixNWrolls eyes and hides21:53
MorphixNWmount error 13 permission denied21:54
stygian_sudo21:54
stygian_er21:54
stygian_heh21:54
stygian_should prompt for user/pass21:54
MorphixNWit didnt and I did sudo21:54
stygian_-o user=whatever,pass=whatever, iirc21:54
stygian_or -o guest... iirc, and if its a guest type share21:55
MorphixNWi had the share name wrong. however, it now only prompts for a password21:56
stygian_then its trying to use your current username21:56
stygian_if you dont want this, you have to use the -o user=user,pass=pass option21:57
MorphixNWbefore the share info and mount point?21:57
stygian_as in, mount -o user=user,pass=passwd -t cifs //whatever/blah /path21:57
MorphixNWI think that worked21:58
stygian_ls /path21:58
MorphixNWYES YES damn effing right it did :D21:58
stygian_:)21:58
MorphixNWThank you so very much stygian for the info and your ime21:59
MorphixNWtime*21:59
stygian_np21:59
stygian_np21:59
charlie-tca!language | MorphixNW21:59
ubottuMorphixNW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional..21:59
stygian_but if you wanna set up a share, all i can say, is.. have fun ;) swat is a major pain, imho21:59
MorphixNWI can now place that command info the fstab to make it work everytime?21:59
stygian_you dont put the command but you use the same info21:59
MorphixNWyeah I got that part ;)22:00
stygian_yes, thats how you can do it22:00
MorphixNWI am happy now22:00
MorphixNWI have so many more questions22:00
MorphixNWnot right now tho22:00
MorphixNWI will frequent this channel I think22:00
MorphixNWI can honestly say that I dont like to use a windows machine anymore, I have been using xubuntu for quite sometime as a media-centre and it has without a doubt converted me fully as I can do everything I would of previously used Bindows to do22:02
stygian_yea, i dont much miss windows anymore22:02
charlie-tcaCan't say I used Windows since 3.1, myself22:02
MorphixNWhahaha nice one tca22:03
charlie-tcaGlad you found something that works for you :-)22:03
MorphixNWubuntu most definately does22:03
MorphixNWpreviously other flavours of linux has failed22:04
stygian_windows wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt so vulnerable.22:04
MorphixNWI second that, especially with 722:04
stygian_visit the wrong website, bam, you get a fake antivirus, fake cdrom driver, your sound hardware has vanished, and nothing works22:04
MorphixNWlmfao so very true22:05
stygian_i also like slackwrae and arch but as far as 'plug and play' out of the box not-having-to-mess-with-stuff, ubuntu wins22:05
MorphixNWwould you recommend ubuntu to replace windows 2003 on my server?22:05
stygian_fwiw i actually like 2003, its slim, quick, and can use xp drivers22:06
MorphixNWI like it also, but the costing is a b*tch22:06
knomeMorphixNW, please watch your language, even "starred"22:07
stygian_yes, imho ms charges far too much for the basic essentials22:07
MorphixNWsorry22:07
knomeMorphixNW, about the server question; i wouldn't say windows is good for any server, though there might be better distros if you are more experienced22:07
knomei like debian on servers22:07
knomeand it's not even that far away from ubuntu... ;)22:07
MorphixNWI know windows is far from the best for web hosting but I am unsure of a good alternative that isnt mission impossible to setup22:08
stygian_yeah, id prefer any linux as a server22:08
stygian_2003 makes a good desktop though ^^22:08
stygian_sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql ....etc22:09
knomeMorphixNW, well, setting up a web server on top of xubuntu is pretty much one command + some minor configurating22:09
stygian_and its all free22:09
MorphixNWI would really like to make the switch for my server, however, I am a lil scared tbh22:09
stygian_setting up apache is basically quite simple. be more afraid of vim ;) which you dont even have to use22:10
knomeMorphixNW, as long as you don't use the server for clients or production, and you have backups, there is no worries ;)22:10
MorphixNWits the setup that worries me22:11
MorphixNWonly because its something new to me22:11
MorphixNWas I dont wanna break my working web server22:12
knomeit's easy; "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin" should get you started22:12
MorphixNWsounds easy22:13
knomeyup22:13
knomethen you have the server components installed22:13
MorphixNWi will take the plunge tomorrow I think :)22:13
knomethen only copy files, import databases (if needed) and maybe do some configuration22:13
MorphixNWwill I be able to import my existing mysql db's?22:14
knomeyes22:15
knomehave you ever used phpmyadmin? it's a web interface for mysql22:15
MorphixNWyes I have :)22:16
MorphixNWmakes it easy22:16
stygian_i think text configs are quicker, easier, and more 'to-the-point' than most gui configs22:18
MorphixNWsorry to be a pain in the behind, however, I cant seem to make this share mount using fstab22:23
MorphixNWthis is what I have in fstab "//192.168.0.100/WWW_root /media/WWW_root cifs administrator"22:24
MorphixNWI am getting permission denied22:24
stygian_what do you mean by 'administrator'?22:25
stygian_that is not the user=username,pass=password format i showed you22:25
MorphixNWyour right its not, I am blind sometimes think that has worked now22:26
MorphixNWall is working fine now, thank you once again22:28
stygian_np22:28
MorphixNWall i need to do now is make the USB and onboard nic work on this machine22:29

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