[00:35] <deathman> hey all
[00:38] <lighta> hi
[01:14] <pteague> the number of possible things that can make something fail seems to increase with age
[01:15] <charlie-tca> +1
[01:15] <pteague> yay... finally got nvidia working with the newest kernel... & you know what my problem was?
[01:17] <pteague> for some reason i had linux-headers installed for 2.6.32-21 & 2.6.32-25... but not for 2.6.32-26 >.<  so installed linux-headers-generic again & hopefully that will fix the issue for a couple of kernels...
[01:31] <pteague> heh, & now i was freaking out because i couldn't get sound... & then realized i had my headphones turned off <.<
[05:21] <narayn44> howdy
[05:23] <joe847> .
[05:24] <narayn44> ..
[05:42] <ubuXubu> good morning Technicians
[11:49] <Newbie>  hello...i`ve installed xubuntu 10.10 and the pppoeconf cmd doesen`t work... even in the live CD it says something like : /usr/sbin/pppoeconf: 523 : modconf : not found | unknown terminal : unknown | Check the term enviroment variable....
[11:50] <Newbie> anyone knows why?
[11:50] <Sysi> it's fixed in updates
[11:50] <Sysi> try: export $TERM=xterm
[11:53] <Newbie> in the live CD that doesen`t work.. besides.. i`ve managed to remove the pppoe and pppoeconf on my xubuntu instalation
[11:54] <Newbie> but didn`t manage to add new packages from a disk
[11:56] <Newbie> i`ve downloaded pppoe and pppoeconf from they site...and it doesen`t lewt me to add then in synaptic...and if i run them from the disk it shows some error...
[11:56] <Sysi> you should install packages from repositories
[11:57] <Sysi> if exactly right program isn't there, some alternative propably is
[11:57] <Newbie> well...if i don`t have internet...i can`t install anything
[11:57] <Newbie> only if , as repositories, is a CD
[11:58] <Sysi> hum, i've never really used ppoe
[11:59] <Newbie> btw..you said something about updates...
[11:59] <Newbie> where do i get those?
[12:00] <Sysi> internet problems are the hardest ones :P
[12:00] <Newbie> keep in mind that i can`t update ( no internet)
[12:00] <Newbie> so i should add the updates in another method..
[12:00] <Newbie> in 10.04 this problem exists?
[12:01] <Sysi> nope
[12:01] <Newbie> with the pppoeconf
[12:01] <Newbie> ohh...are there big gaps between the two releases?
[12:01] <Sysi> different bugs
[12:01] <Sysi> in 10.10 you could use xterm
[12:02] <Newbie> btw... i`m new to linux... a few days testing distros ... i don`t know what xtrem is :|
[12:02] <Sysi> another terminal
[12:03] <Newbie> ohhh..
[12:03] <Sysi> alt f2 and type xterm
[12:03] <Newbie> well.. i`ll think i`ll go to 10.04 until i`ll find a way to solve my problem
[12:04] <Sysi> LTS isn't bad solution
[12:06] <Newbie> btw... i have a debian 5,0 dvd.. since xubuntu is debian based... should i be able to get those packages from that cd?
[12:06] <Newbie> i can apt=cdrom add to add it to repositories
[12:06] <Sysi> they propably aren't compliant
[12:08] <Newbie> failed to fetch cdrom ... before this it shows me he is about to install them tho..
[12:08] <Newbie> pppoe and pppoeconf tho..
[12:09] <Newbie> ahh...nvm.. i`ll go for 10.04.. thx for the help anyway
[12:10] <chmod> if you do that, you may aswell just install 10.10 :P
[12:10] <chmod> lucid is fine, but maverick is where it's at
[12:11] <Newbie> well..i`ve installed 10.10
[12:11] <Newbie> pppoeconf doesen`t work
[12:12] <Newbie> can`t manage to establish my internet connection
[12:14] <chmod> hrmm, a bit beyond my expertise, but it is installed on mine, i'm just not really using it - dhcp ftw
[12:14] <Newbie> well..you`ve probably updated and that was fixed
[12:15] <Newbie> i can`t update since i don`t have an internet connection...
[12:15] <Newbie> :D
[12:15] <Newbie> i have 4 cables in my house..all run on pppoe
[12:15] <chmod> heh
[12:15] <chmod> and I guess you don't have pppstatus?
[12:16] <chmod> it's a console-based PPP status monitor, i'm guessing it would have helped.
[12:17] <Newbie> nope... i removed all ppp that ware in synaptic... and i got pppoe and pppoeconf from theyr site
[12:17] <Newbie> thought i can add them
[12:17] <Newbie> but i can`t add those 2 packages... it won`t let me
[12:18] <chmod> :(
[12:18] <chmod> someone will have a fix, it's just a matter of waiting for them to be active
[12:19] <Newbie> ehh...don`t rly want to wait...anyway...c`ya later.. have to shut down this PC
[12:19] <chmod> I just managed to get connected today, I moved house, so I spent the afternoon playing with my router
[12:19] <chmod> later
[12:19] <Newbie> thx for the help
[12:20] <root_tiger> السلام عليكم
[12:20] <root_tiger> الصلاه خلو عنكم الاوبنتو والكومبنيز والكلام الفاضي
[12:20] <root_tiger> برب
[12:21] <chmod> interesting.
[14:03] <usre> hello
[14:03] <usre> i need help by installing vmwareplayer
[14:04] <usre> does anyone knows about kernel Headers in xubuntu
[14:04] <usre> 10.10
[14:05] <Thermi> just write
[14:05] <Thermi> btw: i'm gone in a few mins...
[14:05] <Thermi> :p
[14:05] <Thermi> I have to go and buy some stoff
[14:06] <usre> ok
[14:06] <usre> ive installed corectly version 2.5.5
[14:06] <usre> of vmwareplayer
[14:06] <charlie-tca> I am sure we have someone that knows something about kernel Headers. Please ask your question, all on one line if possible. If someone does know, they will answer.
[14:07] <Thermi> charlie-tca: exactly. :p
[14:07] <Thermi> i'm away,,,
[14:07] <Thermi> *...
[14:09] <B-r00t> usre: why you not use VirtualBox?
[14:10] <usre> when i start it with sudo vmplayer a popup will be open an quests for Kernel Headers 2.6.35-23-generic. i can select the path because the installer hasnt found the right one. but i dont for what im searching. i have installed these Headers. i tried to set /usr/src/xyz-generic ut it doesnt accept this
[14:12] <usre> i have sessions as vmware from an windows vmware Workstation and wont use another program
[14:14] <usre> the errormessage if i selected an wrong path is: C header files matching your running kernel were not found.  Refer to your distribution's documentation for installation instructions.
[14:15] <charlie-tca> usre: type     uname -a     in a terminal, hit enter, and tell us what you get
[14:15] <usre> 2.6.35-23-generic
[14:16] <charlie-tca> and you did restart after installing the kernel headers?
[14:17] <usre> hmm i think but im not shure
[14:17] <usre> i restart now ok
[14:17] <charlie-tca> it takes effect on the restart
[14:18] <usre> i'll back in 2 minutes
[14:22] <usre> so hello again
[14:22] <usre> same error after sudo vmplayer
[14:23] <usre> uname -a = Linux xubunetbook 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 10:18:49 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:25] <charlie-tca> You installed the linux-image with the header, right?
[14:25] <usre> i dont know -> linuxNewbee
[14:26] <charlie-tca> I have never used vmware, myself. Virtualbox is much easier
[14:26] <charlie-tca> !vmware
[14:26] <charlie-tca> Perhaps the link there will help
[14:27] <charlie-tca> !vmplayer
[14:27] <charlie-tca> Next question, where did you get vmplayer from?
[14:28] <usre> i search since hours into the internet and doesnt find what im searching for. but i try it thanks.  Directly from vmware.
[14:28] <charlie-tca> Might be better to ask them directly how to make it work. It is not supported at all in Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[14:31] <usre> ok i try the link and if this doesnt works i change to another distibution.
[14:31] <charlie-tca> Okay. thanks
[14:32] <usre> thank to you. :-)
[14:38] <nicofs> I want to install Xubuntu on an ARM-Device (Toshiba AC100). I've managed to get a kernel that supports it, but it's nothing but the kernel as *.tgz, When I boot from it, all i get is a console. How do i add the Xubuntu installer to it?
[14:39] <charlie-tca> xubuntu doesn't use arm builds yet
[14:39] <nicofs> so no chance?
[14:40] <charlie-tca> they will fail with it, I think
[14:40] <charlie-tca> not yet
[14:40] <nicofs> because afaik, 80% of ubuntu packages is available as arm...
[14:41] <charlie-tca> We are hoping to get it working around the end of January
[14:41] <charlie-tca> but ubuntu is not Xfce
[14:41] <nicofs> i know...
[14:41] <nicofs> so i'll repeat my question at #ubuntu...
[14:41] <nicofs> (without the X, obviously)
[14:42] <charlie-tca> What about installing the ubuntu arm image, and then adding xubuntu-desktop?
[14:42] <charlie-tca> I don't know if it will work, but might be worth a try
[14:43] <nicofs> there is a ready-to-use ubuntu netbook remix kernel... but i'd rather die - or continue using android - which is basically the same...
[14:44] <charlie-tca> remix was replaced by http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/
[14:45] <nicofs> that's what i mean... but changing the name doesn't improve the system...^^
[14:46] <charlie-tca> It is the unity desktop. It won't really work with Xfce
[14:49] <nicofs> charlie-tca: do you know how chroot works? if i just insert the usb key with the kernel, mount it, chroot to it and install ubuntu... would that work?
[14:49] <charlie-tca> I don't know chroot at all.
[15:01] <wizardslovak> hello people
[15:01] <wizardslovak> anyone here?
[15:02] <Myrtti> sure
[15:02] <wizardslovak> i just turned pc on and i see my upper and lower taskbars are missing
[15:02] <wizardslovak> both blinked at the start
[15:02] <wizardslovak> but noowhere to find
[15:02] <B-r00t> press Alt+F2
[15:02] <B-r00t> and type
[15:02] <B-r00t> xfce4-panel
[15:03] <nicofs> wizardslovak: try "xfce4-panel" in a console...
[15:03] <nicofs> oh... someone was faster...
[15:03] <wizardslovak> ok got it
[15:03] <wizardslovak> now id like to know why it happened
[15:03] <wizardslovak> is there logs or something?
[15:03] <wizardslovak> i dont feel llike to type that command everytime i start pc
[15:04] <Myrtti> it was probably a glitch of some sort, I wouldn't start worrying unless on next boot it does the same
[15:05] <Sysi> if you want to be sure, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and save session on logout
[15:05] <wizardslovak> Myrtti, after it happened first time , i restarted pc and same think
[15:06] <wizardslovak> so i am sure it will happene again
[15:06] <nicofs> wizardslovak: i happens sometimes. i've had that aswell... but after manually startin the panel and rebooting it was there after every reboot so far
[15:07] <wizardslovak> ok thank you
[15:07] <wizardslovak> ;)
[15:07] <wizardslovak> i never used xubuntu
[15:08] <nicofs> i learned to love it after ubuntu introduced "ubuntu one"...
[15:08] <wizardslovak> hehe
[15:08] <wizardslovak> i used to use kubuntu
[15:08] <wizardslovak> and U-server
[15:09] <wizardslovak> 2 days ago i decided i wont use windows nomore so xubuntu
[15:09] <wizardslovak> ;)
[15:09] <wizardslovak> love it so far
[15:09] <Sysi> sometimes i feel lonely when i like kde 4-series
[15:09] <nicofs> ^^ kde isn't as popular as it was, i guess...
[15:09] <wizardslovak> dont get me wrong
[15:10] <wizardslovak> i like kde4
[15:10] <Sysi> i think kde is more popular than ever
[15:10] <wizardslovak> i just felt like to get something new
[15:10] <Sysi> but far from xfce's style
[15:10] <wizardslovak> xfce is not really known as kde or gnome
[15:14] <wizardslovak> i am actually thinking to use xubuntu as my home server
[15:14] <wizardslovak> as i didnt find any ps3 media server which i can run from ubuntu-server terminal
[15:44] <Newbie> hello....did anyone installed theyr pppoe connection in xubuntu 10.10? when running pppoeconf it shows this : TERM environment variable needs set. /usr/sbin/pppoeconf :523 : modconf : not found.
[15:45] <Sysi> did you try it on xterm?
[15:45] <charlie-tca> and the answer from asking the same question earlier
 try: export $TERM=xterm
[15:46] <Newbie> btw..tryed 10.04...it almost the same
[15:46] <Newbie> brb...switching pcs
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Newbie: 10.04 does not have the TERM variable issue
[15:51] <Newbie> back...it worked.. it runs the pppoeconf.. tho it doesen`t pop up the fields for username/pwd/provider... like it did in ubuntu..
[15:57] <Newbie> so any ideeas how can i put the username and password when it configures the pppoe?
[16:19] <nicofs> Newbie: what are you doing exactly? connecting to internet via modem?
[16:32] <Newbie> nicofs no... cable.. just that my ISP gives me an username and a passwor to connect
[16:32] <Newbie> in wind XP it makes like a dial-up connection
[16:32] <Newbie> when using pppoe
[16:32] <nicofs> have you tried wvdial?
[16:32] <Newbie> wvdial?
[16:33] <Newbie> as my nick says...i`m new to linux...
[16:33] <nicofs> a console-based program
[16:33] <nicofs> 'sudo apt-get wvdial' in console...
[16:34] <nicofs> Newbie: first run 'wvdialconf' in console after installation...
[16:35] <Newbie> the package is not install..
[16:35] <Newbie> and apt-get instal wvdial requires internet conection
[16:35] <Newbie> installed*
[16:36] <Newbie> as i said...when you run in ubuntu (10.10 for example) pppoeconf it lets you configure it and it asks you about your usename and pwd
[16:36] <nicofs> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstagn/GPRS-HOWTO/GPRS-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.3
[16:37] <nicofs> don't know if that helps
[16:37] <Newbie> it doesen`t... as i said..i looks like dial up but it isn`t..
[16:38] <charlie-tca> Newbie: do you have the network-manager applet in the upper right corner?
[16:38] <Newbie> yes
[16:38] <Newbie> tried at DSL to configure it
[16:38] <Newbie> it just doesen`t work
[16:38] <charlie-tca> right-click it and see if there is an option there
[16:39] <Newbie> well..i have configure or edit ..smth like that
[16:39] <charlie-tca> I'm starting a live cd to try and see if I can help you with that, then.
[16:39] <Newbie> for posible networks to configure...cable/broadband/wireless/DSL
[16:39] <charlie-tca> nicofs: Newbie can not connect to the internet until pppoeconf is set up
[16:40] <Newbie> apreciate it charlie-tca
[16:40] <Newbie> :D
[16:40] <charlie-tca> no promises
[16:40] <Newbie> don`t want to quit xubuntu just over some pppoeconf problem :|
[16:41] <Newbie> it looks nice
[16:42] <charlie-tca> try this Applications -> Accessories -> terminal
[16:42] <charlie-tca> type     sudo pppoeconf
[16:42] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[16:42] <charlie-tca> what did you get?
[16:44] <Newbie> well..in that terminal i get ... TERM envirenment variable needs set. /usr/sbin/pppoeconf: 523 : modconf : not found.
[16:44] <Newbie> you should get something similar on live CD... runing forever..
[16:44] <charlie-tca> did the prompt come back or is it blinking on a blank line?
[16:45] <charlie-tca> hit Ctlr+C
[16:45] <Newbie> it says that over and over again
[16:45] <Newbie> i did
[16:45] <charlie-tca> should have a prompt again, then
[16:45] <Newbie> i switched on xterm like sysi said..
[16:46] <charlie-tca> type        export $TERM=xterm
[16:46] <Newbie> i did
[16:46] <sosaited> how can I change themes in Xubuntu jaunty?
[16:46] <charlie-tca> now try it again
[16:46] <charlie-tca> sosaited: Jaunty is no longer supported
[16:46] <charlie-tca> You need to upgrade
[16:46] <Newbie> yes...and it pops out that script
[16:46] <Newbie> leting me know it fin my network card
[16:47] <sosaited> charlie-tca, This is a LTS version..
[16:47] <Newbie> hiting OK will make it load..
[16:47] <Newbie> but it will not ask me for any username and password
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Jaunty is not LTS
[16:47] <charlie-tca> 8.04 was LTS, it is supported for 5 months yet
[16:47] <Newbie> if you have an ubuntu live cd and type ppppoeconf in a terminal you`ll see that it lets you configure it
[16:48] <sosaited> charlie-tca, I have 9.04
[16:48] <charlie-tca> 9.04 is not LTS
[16:49] <charlie-tca> sosaited: here are the supported versions now - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/
[16:50] <charlie-tca> Newbie: you in 10.04 or 10.10?
[16:50] <sosaited> charlie-tca, I am in 9.04
[16:50] <charlie-tca> sosaited: you can see on the link that it is no longer supported
[16:50] <charlie-tca> you need to upgrade to a newer version that is in the chart
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Newbie: 10.04 or 10.10?
[16:51] <Newbie> 10.10
[16:52] <Newbie> 10.04 pppoeconf runs the same as pppoeconf in xterm in 10.10
[16:52] <Newbie> tried to switch to 10.04 earlier thinking it will solve the problem
[16:53] <charlie-tca> okay, booting 10.10
[16:54] <charlie-tca> My Virtualbox is broken
[16:55] <charlie-tca> too many cd's and vbox machines
[16:56] <charlie-tca> heh, locked up natty
[16:57] <charlie-tca> booting, slowly
[16:58] <Newbie> i have time :)
[16:58] <Newbie> hope you have too
[16:59] <charlie-tca> booting
[16:59] <charlie-tca> How bad can it get when you three systems break at one time?
[17:00] <Newbie> it can be worse..always :)
[17:02] <Newbie> i`m reading some forums..and some ppl said they managed to configure it form "edit connections" near the clock..using DSL
[17:02] <Newbie> tried that a few times...and it is not working.
[17:03] <Newbie> i`ve installed xubuntu in dual boot with XP and the internet is working on XP.. but on xubuntu it looks like a network cable is uplugged..
[17:04] <charlie-tca> Do you use a static IP?
[17:04] <Newbie> btw...i`m using an onboard LAN...
[17:04] <Newbie> no..it`s dinamic..
[17:04] <Newbie> each time i connect it switches
[17:05] <charlie-tca> try it. right-click that arrow set if it is there, or network manager
[17:05] <charlie-tca> then click DSL
[17:05] <charlie-tca> then click Add
[17:06] <Newbie> i did.. all that... wrote username..psw..provider...set it to PPPOE automaticaly
[17:06] <charlie-tca> click apply
[17:06] <Newbie> i did that also :D
[17:06] <charlie-tca> it will try to find the connection
[17:06] <Newbie> and it says disconected..
[17:07] <Newbie> i have a PCI network card..should i try with that?
[17:07] <charlie-tca> If it isn't doing anything, right click the network manager, left click enable Networking
[17:07] <Newbie> it`s enabled
[17:07] <Newbie> i checked that
[17:07] <charlie-tca> disable it
[17:07] <charlie-tca> then enable it again
[17:08] <Newbie> 1 sec...have t run in the other room at that pc... but as far as i remmber ..i did that also
[17:08] <Newbie> bbr
[17:08] <Newbie> brb
[17:13] <Newbie> back..
[17:13] <Newbie> did that..and other stuff that i thought should work..
[17:13] <Newbie> and ..nothing works :)
[17:13] <charlie-tca> still here
[17:14] <charlie-tca> found the right reference for this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE#Configuration%20by%20hand
[17:15] <charlie-tca> how to create the file without the pppoeconf running
[17:16] <Newbie> going to try
[17:16] <Newbie> 1 sec
[17:16] <charlie-tca> You have to do it using root, so hit ALT+F2, type gksu thunar
[17:17] <charlie-tca> then use thunar to go     file system, etc, ppp
[17:17] <charlie-tca> you can right click to create a new file, and can right click, open to edit the files you need to
[17:22] <Arpad2> hello
[17:23] <charlie-tca> !hi | Arpad2
[17:24] <Arpad2> the desktop background image appears only in black-white colours
[17:24] <Arpad2> I think this is related to my new video card
[17:24] <Arpad2> also the screensaver doesnt work :(
[17:25] <Arpad2> instead of pics and graphics eror message come up
[17:26] <B-r00t> do you have installed driver?
[17:26] <Arpad2> & I cant open the synaptic's window
[17:26] <Arpad2> B-r00t: I dont know
[17:27] <B-r00t> type in terminal
[17:27] <B-r00t> lspci | grep -i vga
[17:28] <Arpad2> yestarday I made apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[17:28] <B-r00t> go to system -> hardware drivers
[17:29] <pcfreak30> Hello. I recently reset a friends linux password via root shell. Now I can login though command line, but not through the gui. it goes though, but kicks me back to the  login screen. Any Help?
[17:29] <Arpad2> B-root : http://paste.ubuntu.com/543707/
[17:29] <pcfreak30> No I am not breaking in, they forgot their pass, lol
[17:30] <B-r00t> Arpad2: do you ahve any driver in system -> hardware drivers?
[17:30] <B-r00t> have*
[17:30] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: so you are getting the gdm login screen repeating?
[17:31] <Arpad2> B-r00t: I dont have that menu, under System no harware drivers is available
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: might be called additional drivers or something
[17:32] <Arpad2> ok
[17:32] <pcfreak30> charlie-tca, yes. its xfce. Its doesnt say login failure either. I did a "passwd aaron" in root shell via recovery boot entry.
[17:33] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: and you restarted the computer after changing it?
[17:33] <pcfreak30> i typed reboot
[17:33] <pcfreak30> and went normal
[17:33] <Arpad2> charlie-tca,B-r00t: ok , it found sth which should be installed
[17:34] <pcfreak30> its like the gui and cli are comflicting. i can login in a basic tty, not the gui though
[17:34] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: okay, we will wipe out some of the configuration settings to reset it
[17:35] <charlie-tca> from gdm, you can go to a tty using CTRL+ALT+F1
[17:35] <charlie-tca> login
[17:35] <pcfreak30> yea
[17:35] <pcfreak30> go into a tty
[17:35] <pcfreak30> yea
[17:35] <pcfreak30> i can login to shell
[17:35] <pcfreak30> tip. the pc is accross the street, so ill be doing it from memory
[17:36] <charlie-tca> okay.
[17:36] <charlie-tca> going into /home/USER/
[17:36] <charlie-tca> remove .cache
[17:36] <pcfreak30> that a folder or file?
[17:36] <charlie-tca> folder
[17:37] <pcfreak30> k
[17:37] <charlie-tca> If it still won't work, you go to /home/USER/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[17:37] <charlie-tca> note those dots in the directory
[17:38] <pcfreak30> so. xfce caches the users pass?
[17:38] <pcfreak30> that really sounds like a security flaw to me, tbh
[17:38] <charlie-tca> remove the file in there called xfce4-session
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Doesn't cache the password, but it jams up saving sessions sometimes
[17:39] <charlie-tca> We never cache the password in the users home directory
[17:39] <charlie-tca> but that will let you login through gdm again
[17:41] <Arpad2> charlie-tca,B-r00t: however, the recommended driver is installed
[17:41] <Newbie> charlie-tca i`ve edit the first file and created the 2nd file under the name RDS... i use : pon RDS and it says i must me a member of "dip" group to use that cmd
[17:42] <charlie-tca> That's easy. go back in with gksu thunar, navigate to /etc/groups
[17:42] <charlie-tca> edit the file to add yourself, carefully
[17:43] <charlie-tca> or go in through Applciations -> System -> Users and groups
[17:43] <charlie-tca> manage groups
[17:43] <charlie-tca> find DIP, put a checkmark on your user name,
[17:44] <charlie-tca> then you have to logout/login for it to take effect
[17:44] <B-r00t> Arpad2: now reboot
[17:44] <Newbie> oke..thx...going to try it
[17:44] <Arpad2> B-r00t? I havent done anything yet , because the recommended driver is installed
[17:46] <charlie-tca> was it already installed or did you tell it to activate it?
[17:46] <Arpad2> charlie-tca: it was
[17:47] <Arpad2> istalled already
[17:48] <charlie-tca> B-r00t: next ?
[17:48] <B-r00t> Arpad2: try to enable composing
[17:48] <B-r00t> in window manager properties
[17:49] <Arpad2> ok
[17:50] <pcfreak30> charlie-tca, um i think the issue is it couldnt get through ecrypt. idk why but the home directory is encrypted...
[17:50] <pcfreak30> so no way around that
[17:50] <B-r00t> Arpad2: go to settings manager -> window manager tweaks
[17:51] <Arpad2> thx:)
[17:51] <Arpad2> ok
[17:52] <Arpad2> I enabled it
[17:52] <B-r00t> enabled?
[17:52] <B-r00t> ok
[17:52] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: it is the way the installation was done. that is an option
[17:52] <B-r00t> try to change wallpaper
[17:53] <Arpad2> B-r00t : black&white remains
[17:53] <pcfreak30> charlie-tca, is there anyway to change the encryption pass when changing the system pass?
[17:53] <B-r00t> :|
[17:53] <Newbie> charlie-tca using "pon RDS" (aka pon dsl-provider) it only loads rp-pppoe and that`s about it..
[17:54] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: Not that I know of
[17:54] <charlie-tca> !encrypt
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Newbie: I am at the end of my ability now
[17:55] <Newbie> well.. thank you for your time and help..
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Newbie: I would say to install UBuntu, add "xubuntu-desktop" and then remove the gnome stuff using pure xfce
[17:55] <Newbie> i`ll try some ubuntu forums.. maybe i`ll find some answers..
[17:55] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[17:55] <charlie-tca> That lets you get online the easiest, right?
[17:56] <Newbie> sd fsr sd i remember when using ubuntu 10.10 ... after installing my video card i had 300x200 resolution and coudn`t change it :)
[17:56] <Newbie> as far as*
[17:56] <Newbie> i hope it won`t happen again..
[17:58] <charlie-tca> that's easy to fix - install hardware drivers; then create the /etc/xorg.conf file with the right resolution
[17:58] <charlie-tca> If the file exists, it gets used, but it does not exist by default
[17:58] <pcfreak30> charlie-tca, so any way to change the pass that was used to encrypt the home directory?
[17:58] <Newbie> btw..only that cmd line is all
[17:58] <Newbie> ?
[17:58] <Newbie> to pass from ubuntu to xfce xubuntu?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> to add xubuntu to Ubuntu, use      sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <charlie-tca> then you here - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[17:59] <charlie-tca> and remove the extra stuff for gnome that you don't need anymore
[17:59] <charlie-tca> pcfreak30: not that I know of
[18:00] <charlie-tca> It should use the desktop login password to decrypt
[18:00] <charlie-tca> and it doesn't know what that is anymore
[18:04] <pcfreak30> charlie, yes. but if its decrypted and mounted, how can u change the key?
[18:05] <charlie-tca> changing the password through Users and Groups should update the gnome keyring for it
[18:06] <charlie-tca> Although I am not sure. Perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory tells?
[18:39] <pcfreak30> it does nor
[18:39] <pcfreak30> not
[19:23] <crawler> hello.  is it ok to remove the cups package since i don''t have a printer?  it wants to take xubuntu-desktop with it!?
[19:23] <Sysi> xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[19:24] <crawler> i assume that means it's ok to remove cups..thank you Sysi
[19:30] <crawler> so, removing libcups2 will basically bork my entire system?
[19:33] <lostkid> Hello?
[19:34] <charlie-tca> Hello, lostkid
[19:35] <lostkid> I am having some issues with ubuntu 10.10 could you help?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[19:37] <lostkid> When i put the CD for ubuntu 10.10 64 bit the screen comes up blurry as if not syncing and it will not allow me to install the full version of Ubuntu onto my machine, it will begin the setup process but end at the screen that prompts you for your persinal information such as name and the name of the computer with a username and password
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Tried the 32bit version?
[19:38] <crawler> so, removing libcups2 will basically bork my entire system?
[19:38] <lostkid> I have
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Sometimes downloading again helps too
[19:38] <lostkid> Alright, i will redownload it and try again
[19:39] <charlie-tca> !info libcups2
[19:39] <charlie-tca> sure, crawler
[19:39] <lostkid> what worries me is i have downloaded and tryed both the 64 and 32 bit version. I was wondering if my system is not compatable with Ubuntu
[19:39] <charlie-tca> crawler: take it back, it looks like it is optional, so it should be removable
[19:40] <charlie-tca> lostkid: most likely you have hardware failing, then.
[19:40] <lostkid> What kind of hardware?
[19:40] <crawler> charlie-tca: when i try to remove it, it wants to take everything else with it.
[19:40] <charlie-tca> video card or ram
[19:40] <charlie-tca> crawler: then it will break it
[19:41] <bergasche> i just bought the humble indie bundle and when i try to install revenge of the titans it says
[19:41] <crawler> charlie-tca: okthanks, just making sure :)
[19:41] <bergasche> unable to create `/opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/einleitung.mp3.dpkg-new' (while processing `/opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/einleitung.mp3'): No such file or directory
[19:41] <lostkid> Thank you Charlie, i will replace the video card and test the ra
[19:41] <charlie-tca> crawler: no problem
[19:41] <charlie-tca> lostkid: You´re welcome. Good luck...
[19:41] <charlie-tca> bergasche: are you installing using sudo?
[19:42] <bergasche> i installed it with
[19:42] <bergasche> sudo dpkg -i RevengeOfTheTitans-HIB-amd64.deb
[19:43] <bergasche> oh wait
[19:43] <charlie-tca> bergasche: don't know, then. Maybe something is wrong with the package?
[19:43] <bergasche> i just created /opt/revengeofthetitans/full_length_music/
[19:43] <bergasche> and it worked
[19:44] <bergasche> very strange
[19:44] <charlie-tca> So it is trying to create directories without using root. It is a package error
[19:45] <beardygnome> charlie-tca: are you around?
[19:45] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:46]  * charlie-tca is hiding behind the screen, though :-)
[19:46] <beardygnome> :-) what's the best way to review the xubuntu documentation docbook files?
[19:47] <beardygnome> reading the raw xml isn't working too well for me.
[19:47] <charlie-tca> beardygnome: you downloaded the bzr branch already?
[19:48] <beardygnome> yeah, I've got the lucid and current branches, cos I wasn't sure wjich
[19:48] <beardygnome> ..to review
[19:48] <beardygnome> *which
[19:48] <charlie-tca> should be able to use "yelp xubuntu-docs" I think
[19:48]  * beardygnome will try that now
[19:49] <charlie-tca> I could be wrong, but that is what I used to use
[19:52] <charlie-tca> beardygnome: is there a libs directory in the docs?
[19:53] <beardygnome> there's debian, desktop-guidem, scripts & start-page directories
[19:53] <beardygnome> plus a Makefile
[19:55] <charlie-tca> current doesn't have the html :-(
[19:56] <charlie-tca> I will have to grab them then and see what is happening
[19:56] <beardygnome> lucid doesn't seem to have the html either
[19:56] <charlie-tca> hmm
[20:06] <beardygnome> charlie-tca: I ran "make all" in the xubuntu-docs directory and that created a build directory with all the htmls in
[20:07] <beardygnome> running "yelp build/index.html" seems to work and all the links are followed
[20:08] <beardygnome> I'll have an better look later, but looks like I'm up and running.
[20:08] <beardygnome> thanks charlie-tca, see you later.
[21:10] <stygian> my sound isnt loud enough. how do i turn it above 100%?
[21:12] <B-r00t> stygian: in terminal
[21:12] <B-r00t> alsamixer
[21:12] <B-r00t> if you use alsa
[21:12] <stygian> tried that.. its already at 100%
[21:12] <stygian> and im only using headphones
[21:12] <B-r00t> PCM?
[21:13] <stygian> master, headphone, speaker, pcm, all 100
[21:13] <Sysi> see pulseaudio on xfce4-mixer
[21:14] <stygian> 100%
[21:14] <stygian> i remember in gnome i could go to like 150% or so
 see pulseaudio on xfce4-mixer <-- anything after this? seems i peer'd
[21:30] <MorphixNW> hello there room, I was hoping that someone maybe able to help me out
[21:31] <MorphixNW> I have been using Xbuntu for sometime, but only for basic everyday use
[21:31] <charlie-tca> great!
[21:31] <MorphixNW> I would now like to use it as I would use windows (i am an IT pro), for things such as connecting to network shares and UNC connections etc
[21:32] <MorphixNW> with Bindows I can do pretty much anything. even servers, etc, but xbuntu is a whole different kettle of fish
[21:32] <stygian_> well if all else fails, mount -t cifs ;) as for all else, *shrug* for me its just a lighter-weight
[21:32] <stygian_> system
[21:33] <MorphixNW> in Bindows I would do "Start > run > \\machine_name\sharename"
[21:33] <MorphixNW> can something similar be done in ubuntu?
[21:34] <stygian_> in gnome you can, as far as xfce you could a) try it or b) google it
[21:34] <charlie-tca> Most of what works in gnome will also work in Xubuntu
[21:34] <MorphixNW> where is the "run" box? or can this be done in terminal?
[21:34] <charlie-tca> MorphixNW: Alt+F2
[21:35] <charlie-tca> It can also be done in terminal, I think
[21:36] <MorphixNW> if I enter "\\machine_name\share_name" into terminal it says "command not found"
[21:37] <stygian_> thats not how you use the terminal. \\machine_name\share_name is not a command
[21:37] <charlie-tca> !ics
[21:37] <MorphixNW> oh oh ok
[21:37] <stygian_> or even a builtin.. you'd have to try 'cd \\machine...'
[21:38] <MorphixNW> I dont want to share the internet connection, all my machines have that already, I want to view a windows share
[21:38] <charlie-tca> !samba
[21:38] <MorphixNW> I am running 10.10 on this particular machine
[21:38] <Sysi> you could use gigolo too
[21:38] <MorphixNW> so I can install samba along with SWAT and use a web interface to manage it?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> that server guide should work for 10.04 and 10.10. there are not that many changes
[21:39] <stygian_> swat will manage the shares but iirc it doesnt mount them. you'd have to do that with mount via a script or fstab
[21:39] <MorphixNW> fstab mounting I can (I think) if its like mounting an additional hard drive, which I have done successfully
[21:40] <stygian_> it is exactly like mountain a hard drive (same with mount command) only you use the smbfs/cifs filesystem, and \\machine\share\path as the drive
[21:41] <stygian_> mountain?? i meant mounting haha
[21:41] <MorphixNW> I have tried using fstab to do it in the past, however, it kept reporting an error
[21:41] <MorphixNW> even tho I know the names etc where correct
[21:41] <MorphixNW> I have just install samba and swat
[21:42] <stygian_> fstab entry would be like: //machine/share /home/myusername/mount cifs auto 0 0
[21:42] <MorphixNW> SWAT doesnt appear in my applications list :(
[21:42] <stygian_> read about swat
[21:42] <stygian_> it isnt an applicatino
[21:42] <stygian_> it is a webservice type thing
[21:42] <MorphixNW> this is where I get confused lol
[21:42] <stygian_> (or was when i last used it, circa 2002)
[21:43] <MorphixNW> how do I access it?
[21:43] <stygian_> read the instructions.. google it.
[21:43] <Sysi> terminal programs and daemons aren't in the menu
[21:43] <stygian_> (hint: http://localhost:901)
[21:43] <MorphixNW> thank you stygian
[21:43] <MorphixNW> I am here because googling this one isnt working for me
[21:43] <MorphixNW> google has worked for almost everything but this one I cant seem to get
[21:44] <stygian_> what is it you want? create a share on linux or access one from linux?
[21:45] <stygian_> creating a share: use swat. accessing a share: install samba and mount with smbfs/cifs fstype. \\machine\share becomes //machine/share
[21:45] <MorphixNW> access a win32 share
[21:45] <Sysi> (IMHO windows shares are pain to configure on windows too {7} i could try samba but i don't have any windows machines for testing)
[21:46] <MorphixNW> ok Stygian let me conf fstab using your advice and if that fails can I post the error in here?
[21:46] <stygian_> there should be no error so long as your network gets configured before it attempts to mount the share
[21:47] <MorphixNW> I know the share works fine for other win32 based machines
[21:49] <stygian_> just try mount -t cifs //machine/share /path
[21:50] <Sysi> could be SMB too?
[21:50] <stygian_> smbfs is deprecated
[21:51] <MorphixNW> where /path being where I want it mounting?
[21:51] <stygian_> yes
[21:51] <MorphixNW> ok let me have a bash
[21:51] <MorphixNW> hahah no pun intended
[21:51] <stygian_> ;p
[21:51] <stygian_> 44bsd-csh ftw
[21:51]  * stygian_ hides behind something
[21:52] <MorphixNW> say wot now? lol
[21:53] <MorphixNW> if I do "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.100/WWW_root" it show me mount usage info
[21:53] <stygian_> you didnt give it a path
[21:53] <MorphixNW> rolls eyes and hides
[21:54] <MorphixNW> mount error 13 permission denied
[21:54] <stygian_> sudo
[21:54] <stygian_> er
[21:54] <stygian_> heh
[21:54] <stygian_> should prompt for user/pass
[21:54] <MorphixNW> it didnt and I did sudo
[21:54] <stygian_> -o user=whatever,pass=whatever, iirc
[21:55] <stygian_> or -o guest... iirc, and if its a guest type share
[21:56] <MorphixNW> i had the share name wrong. however, it now only prompts for a password
[21:56] <stygian_> then its trying to use your current username
[21:57] <stygian_> if you dont want this, you have to use the -o user=user,pass=pass option
[21:57] <MorphixNW> before the share info and mount point?
[21:57] <stygian_> as in, mount -o user=user,pass=passwd -t cifs //whatever/blah /path
[21:58] <MorphixNW> I think that worked
[21:58] <stygian_> ls /path
[21:58] <MorphixNW> YES YES damn effing right it did :D
[21:58] <stygian_> :)
[21:59] <MorphixNW> Thank you so very much stygian for the info and your ime
[21:59] <MorphixNW> time*
[21:59] <stygian_> np
[21:59] <stygian_> np
[21:59] <charlie-tca> !language | MorphixNW
[21:59] <stygian_> but if you wanna set up a share, all i can say, is.. have fun ;) swat is a major pain, imho
[21:59] <MorphixNW> I can now place that command info the fstab to make it work everytime?
[21:59] <stygian_> you dont put the command but you use the same info
[22:00] <MorphixNW> yeah I got that part ;)
[22:00] <stygian_> yes, thats how you can do it
[22:00] <MorphixNW> I am happy now
[22:00] <MorphixNW> I have so many more questions
[22:00] <MorphixNW> not right now tho
[22:00] <MorphixNW> I will frequent this channel I think
[22:02] <MorphixNW> I can honestly say that I dont like to use a windows machine anymore, I have been using xubuntu for quite sometime as a media-centre and it has without a doubt converted me fully as I can do everything I would of previously used Bindows to do
[22:02] <stygian_> yea, i dont much miss windows anymore
[22:02] <charlie-tca> Can't say I used Windows since 3.1, myself
[22:03] <MorphixNW> hahaha nice one tca
[22:03] <charlie-tca> Glad you found something that works for you :-)
[22:03] <MorphixNW> ubuntu most definately does
[22:04] <MorphixNW> previously other flavours of linux has failed
[22:04] <stygian_> windows wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt so vulnerable.
[22:04] <MorphixNW> I second that, especially with 7
[22:04] <stygian_> visit the wrong website, bam, you get a fake antivirus, fake cdrom driver, your sound hardware has vanished, and nothing works
[22:05] <MorphixNW> lmfao so very true
[22:05] <stygian_> i also like slackwrae and arch but as far as 'plug and play' out of the box not-having-to-mess-with-stuff, ubuntu wins
[22:05] <MorphixNW> would you recommend ubuntu to replace windows 2003 on my server?
[22:06] <stygian_> fwiw i actually like 2003, its slim, quick, and can use xp drivers
[22:06] <MorphixNW> I like it also, but the costing is a b*tch
[22:07] <knome> MorphixNW, please watch your language, even "starred"
[22:07] <stygian_> yes, imho ms charges far too much for the basic essentials
[22:07] <MorphixNW> sorry
[22:07] <knome> MorphixNW, about the server question; i wouldn't say windows is good for any server, though there might be better distros if you are more experienced
[22:07] <knome> i like debian on servers
[22:07] <knome> and it's not even that far away from ubuntu... ;)
[22:08] <MorphixNW> I know windows is far from the best for web hosting but I am unsure of a good alternative that isnt mission impossible to setup
[22:08] <stygian_> yeah, id prefer any linux as a server
[22:08] <stygian_> 2003 makes a good desktop though ^^
[22:09] <stygian_> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql ....etc
[22:09] <knome> MorphixNW, well, setting up a web server on top of xubuntu is pretty much one command + some minor configurating
[22:09] <stygian_> and its all free
[22:09] <MorphixNW> I would really like to make the switch for my server, however, I am a lil scared tbh
[22:10] <stygian_> setting up apache is basically quite simple. be more afraid of vim ;) which you dont even have to use
[22:10] <knome> MorphixNW, as long as you don't use the server for clients or production, and you have backups, there is no worries ;)
[22:11] <MorphixNW> its the setup that worries me
[22:11] <MorphixNW> only because its something new to me
[22:12] <MorphixNW> as I dont wanna break my working web server
[22:12] <knome> it's easy; "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin" should get you started
[22:13] <MorphixNW> sounds easy
[22:13] <knome> yup
[22:13] <knome> then you have the server components installed
[22:13] <MorphixNW> i will take the plunge tomorrow I think :)
[22:13] <knome> then only copy files, import databases (if needed) and maybe do some configuration
[22:14] <MorphixNW> will I be able to import my existing mysql db's?
[22:15] <knome> yes
[22:15] <knome> have you ever used phpmyadmin? it's a web interface for mysql
[22:16] <MorphixNW> yes I have :)
[22:16] <MorphixNW> makes it easy
[22:18] <stygian_> i think text configs are quicker, easier, and more 'to-the-point' than most gui configs
[22:23] <MorphixNW> sorry to be a pain in the behind, however, I cant seem to make this share mount using fstab
[22:24] <MorphixNW> this is what I have in fstab "//192.168.0.100/WWW_root /media/WWW_root cifs administrator"
[22:24] <MorphixNW> I am getting permission denied
[22:25] <stygian_> what do you mean by 'administrator'?
[22:25] <stygian_> that is not the user=username,pass=password format i showed you
[22:26] <MorphixNW> your right its not, I am blind sometimes think that has worked now
[22:28] <MorphixNW> all is working fine now, thank you once again
[22:28] <stygian_> np
[22:29] <MorphixNW> all i need to do now is make the USB and onboard nic work on this machine