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mhall119sure00:13
dakermhall119, i'll show you :)00:30
dakermhall119, bzr branch lp:~adnane002/xdg-launcher/new-fixes00:30
dakermhall119, i need to go :) have fun00:32
sk8ergurl87Hi everyone :)02:22
sk8ergurl87I have a question about ubuntu because I just installed it and I can't seem to get my microphone to work02:23
ekajwould someone be willing to read a paper promoting open sourced software like edubuntu in schools? it's pretty rough and not half way done, but someone elses view would help if they would be so kind02:37
dakermhall119, ping12:09
mhall119daker: pong12:16
dakermhall119, wait a sec i'll show you12:17
dakermhall119, bzr branch lp:~adnane002/xdg-launcher/new-fixes12:22
dakermhall119, what do you think ?12:24
alkisgX11 launcher? Sounds nice, is it lighter than lxpanel?12:27
dakeralkisg, have you tested my branche ?12:28
alkisgdaker: nope, I see the link for the first time12:28
alkisgIs it in C or in Python?12:28
dakerpython12:28
alkisgAh :(12:28
* alkisg was wondering if it could be used in <= 128mb ram environments...12:29
dakerhmm12:29
alkisgIgnore me, I just have a thin client which I also use as a print server, and lxpanel needs 20Mb RAM so I was looking for something ligter :)12:30
dakeractually it uses 7,9Mb12:31
alkisgAnd how much with python included?12:31
alkisgAh, gtk, cairo etc, nm, ignore me :)12:33
alkisgI saw the description "a simple x11 panel" and I thought it was x11-only, sorry12:34
mhall119alkisg: it's an X11 panel12:44
alkisgmhall119: it is, I just thought it didn't use gtk etc, kind of like xterm vs gnome-terminal12:45
alkisgNever mind me, I just understood it wrong12:45
mhall119nope12:45
dakermhall119, test it?12:46
mhall119daker: working on it12:46
mhall119sorry, had to take the kids to school12:47
dakerok12:47
mhall119daker: I saw it auto-hide, but now I can't bring it back up12:48
dakerjust put the mouse over the it there is bout 2 or 3px that appears from it12:50
mhall119tried that12:51
mhall119evidently that's not enough for me12:51
mhall119I increased it to 10px and then I can12:51
mhall119but I get no launchers in the panel12:51
dakerwired12:52
dakermhall119, http://is.gd/iMLTB12:53
dakerdo you see the 3px at the right ?12:53
mhall119yeah12:53
mhall119I saw it on mine too12:53
mhall119it just didn't trigger anything when I put my mouse over it12:53
dakerthe right click on the bar dispaly a menu12:55
dakermhall119, you can change the position of the bar by changing12:56
dakerself.position = "right" to "top/bottom/left"12:56
mhall119yeah, that worked12:56
mhall119I had to updated the xdg-launcher script to use l.win.show_all() too12:57
mhall119but the dynamic sizing seems to be broken12:57
mhall119I think you copied in too much of ADeskBar ;)12:58
dakernot to much12:58
dakertoo*12:58
dakeri just trying to do something usefull ツ13:01
mhall119and it is13:02
mhall119but I need dynamic height more than I need auto-hiding13:03
dakerwhat do you mean by dynamic height ?13:03
dakerah i think i understand13:04
mhall119on my branch, the bar_width is calculated based on the # of launchers, then the size of the launchers is calculated to fit in that width13:04
dakerthe height depands on how much launcher there is13:04
mhall119which means the more launchers you have,the smaller the bar_height will be13:05
mhall119yup13:05
dakerok13:05
dakermhall119, the launcher doesn't work on Qimo 213:06
mhall119yeah, because I didn't have the xdg menus configured right in qimo-session13:07
dakerok13:07
mhall119if you copy /etc/xdg/menus -> /etc/xdg/xdg-qimo/menus it should work13:07
dakerok i'll ty13:08
dakertry*13:08
mhall119use the get_bar_width_ratio to get the screen multiple13:11
mhall119self.bar_width = int(round(self.screen_width * self.get_bar_width_ratio(len(launchers))))13:12
dakerok mhall119 i'll remove the auto-hiding13:18
mhall119you can leave it in if you fix the dynamic height13:20
dakerok13:22
mhall119also, we'll need to give attribution to ADeskBar for all of their code we're using13:23
dakersure13:23
dakermhall119, do you use dual screen ?13:24
mhall119nope13:24
mhall119laptop13:24
dakerok13:26
dakerit works on qimo13:27
dakerbrb13:27
mgariepy good morning all13:48
highvoltagegood morning mgariepy14:20
highvoltageso Edubuntu meeting is in around 43 minutes if I got it right this time :)18:15
alkisgnp we can do it again 1 hour later, noone will notice :P18:16
highvoltagenixternal: really here?18:21
nixternalyes :)18:22
highvoltagenixternal: cool. how are things?18:22
nixternalfinally not so hectic now that I have email again. silly gmail and google, silly cloud18:22
alkisgWhat's wrong with gmail?18:23
nixternalmine was down for 2+ days18:23
nixternalit wasn't an issue for everybody18:23
alkisgOuch. Mine was accessed by a chinese IP :-/18:23
highvoltagenixternal: mind doing a last EC task before the new EC is instated? We're waiting on the CC and mhall119 just needs one more vote for us to give him edubuntu-dev status (for a whole week already :/)18:23
nixternalsure thing18:24
nixternallinky?18:24
highvoltageit was via email on the edubuntu-devel list18:24
* nixternal looks18:24
highvoltagecan I forward it to you?18:24
highvoltageI forwarded it to your ubuntu address fwiw18:25
nixternalvoted and sent back :)18:27
highvoltagegreat, thanks!18:28
* mhall119 hopes it was a +118:28
highvoltageI thought you probably weren't on the -devel list anymore anyway18:28
highvoltageah, you aren't... (logging into mailman to approve)18:28
nixternalmhall119: -31 :p18:29
mhall119:(18:30
highvoltagemhall119: well, welcome as an official edubuntu developer :)18:47
alkisgWelcome mhall119 :)18:48
mhall119\o/18:49
mhall119and just in time, I'm putting together my qimo 3.0 packages as we speak18:49
alkisghighvoltage: I see that some people were deactivated from edubuntu-devs when they joined the council, but shouldn't they also stay active as devs too? What if someone leaves the council but wants to stay a dev?18:49
highvoltagemhall119: we'll get them added to the package set, then I can show you how to upload to it (which should take around 10 seconds)18:50
highvoltagealkisg: yes! they should, because someone could step down from the council but might still want to be a developer18:50
mhall119I need to settle on a new name for xdg-launcher first18:50
mhall119I'm thinking I'll just call it qimo-launcher and be done with it18:51
highvoltagealkisg: at the time the reasoning was that edubuntu-council members inherit edubuntu-dev anyway, but that's not a good way of doing it, I was actually planning to bring it up at the meeting while I was adding mhall11918:51
alkisgNice18:52
highvoltagemhall119: at least with qimo- no one can claim that you step on their namespace :)18:52
stgraberalkisg: it's because we should go through the same review process even if we are council member18:57
alkisgstgraber: right, I thought you already did before becoming council members18:57
stgraberso EC members who want to join edubuntu-dev should prepare the same documentation18:58
highvoltagetechnically we did vote on a few of us initially18:59
highvoltage(well, let's move to #ubuntu-meeting fwiw)18:59
highvoltagemhall119: I think it will be quite possible (and easy) for you to get qimo released with ubuntu once I've shown you how debmower works. I'm planning to clean it up on Friday and then when you have some time I can show you how it works19:32
mhall119highvoltage: looking forward to it19:33
mhall119I found the ubuntu base i386.squashfs, does it build off that?19:34
highvoltagemhall119: nope, it builds from scratch, although it allows caching so that you don't have to build completely from scratch each time19:34
highvoltage(which is pretty much what's happening with that ubuntu base image)19:35
mhall119ok, and it makes a live session?19:35
highvoltageyep19:36
mhall119how about an alternate installer?19:36
highvoltageit doesn't do alternate, unfortunately19:36
mhall119ok19:36
highvoltageeventually I plan to borrow some ideas from http://live.debian.net to do it19:36
highvoltagethe debian live scripts are *great*, but I'm not sure it can be used to build ubuntu systems reliably yet19:37
highvoltagewith the debian-live builder you can quite easily make a disc an alternate installer and live installer disc19:38
mhall119so, did any of you see the abc7 voicebox thing that partimus.org did?19:45
mhall119I thought the news was going to be about linux in schools, but the only mention of that was when the host mentioned who partimus.org was19:45
mhall119everything else was just about current news topics19:46
mhall119but they did get Jono on tape admitting that he needs a bus to take him home from the clubs at 3am19:46

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