[00:13] <mhall119> sure
[00:30] <daker> mhall119, i'll show you :)
[00:30] <daker> mhall119, bzr branch lp:~adnane002/xdg-launcher/new-fixes
[00:32] <daker> mhall119, i need to go :) have fun
[02:22] <sk8ergurl87> Hi everyone :)
[02:23] <sk8ergurl87> I have a question about ubuntu because I just installed it and I can't seem to get my microphone to work
[02:37] <ekaj> would someone be willing to read a paper promoting open sourced software like edubuntu in schools? it's pretty rough and not half way done, but someone elses view would help if they would be so kind
[12:09] <daker> mhall119, ping
[12:16] <mhall119> daker: pong
[12:17] <daker> mhall119, wait a sec i'll show you
[12:22] <daker> mhall119, bzr branch lp:~adnane002/xdg-launcher/new-fixes
[12:24] <daker> mhall119, what do you think ?
[12:27] <alkisg> X11 launcher? Sounds nice, is it lighter than lxpanel?
[12:28] <daker> alkisg, have you tested my branche ?
[12:28] <alkisg> daker: nope, I see the link for the first time
[12:28] <alkisg> Is it in C or in Python?
[12:28] <daker> python
[12:28] <alkisg> Ah :(
[12:29]  * alkisg was wondering if it could be used in <= 128mb ram environments...
[12:29] <daker> hmm
[12:30] <alkisg> Ignore me, I just have a thin client which I also use as a print server, and lxpanel needs 20Mb RAM so I was looking for something ligter :)
[12:31] <daker> actually it uses 7,9Mb
[12:31] <alkisg> And how much with python included?
[12:33] <alkisg> Ah, gtk, cairo etc, nm, ignore me :)
[12:34] <alkisg> I saw the description "a simple x11 panel" and I thought it was x11-only, sorry
[12:44] <mhall119> alkisg: it's an X11 panel
[12:45] <alkisg> mhall119: it is, I just thought it didn't use gtk etc, kind of like xterm vs gnome-terminal
[12:45] <alkisg> Never mind me, I just understood it wrong
[12:45] <mhall119> nope
[12:46] <daker> mhall119, test it?
[12:46] <mhall119> daker: working on it
[12:47] <mhall119> sorry, had to take the kids to school
[12:47] <daker> ok
[12:48] <mhall119> daker: I saw it auto-hide, but now I can't bring it back up
[12:50] <daker> just put the mouse over the it there is bout 2 or 3px that appears from it
[12:51] <mhall119> tried that
[12:51] <mhall119> evidently that's not enough for me
[12:51] <mhall119> I increased it to 10px and then I can
[12:51] <mhall119> but I get no launchers in the panel
[12:52] <daker> wired
[12:53] <daker> mhall119, http://is.gd/iMLTB
[12:53] <daker> do you see the 3px at the right ?
[12:53] <mhall119> yeah
[12:53] <mhall119> I saw it on mine too
[12:53] <mhall119> it just didn't trigger anything when I put my mouse over it
[12:55] <daker> the right click on the bar dispaly a menu
[12:56] <daker> mhall119, you can change the position of the bar by changing
[12:56] <daker> self.position = "right" to "top/bottom/left"
[12:56] <mhall119> yeah, that worked
[12:57] <mhall119> I had to updated the xdg-launcher script to use l.win.show_all() too
[12:57] <mhall119> but the dynamic sizing seems to be broken
[12:58] <mhall119> I think you copied in too much of ADeskBar ;)
[12:58] <daker> not to much
[12:58] <daker> too*
[13:01] <daker> i just trying to do something usefull ツ
[13:02] <mhall119> and it is
[13:03] <mhall119> but I need dynamic height more than I need auto-hiding
[13:03] <daker> what do you mean by dynamic height ?
[13:04] <daker> ah i think i understand
[13:04] <mhall119> on my branch, the bar_width is calculated based on the # of launchers, then the size of the launchers is calculated to fit in that width
[13:04] <daker> the height depands on how much launcher there is
[13:05] <mhall119> which means the more launchers you have,the smaller the bar_height will be
[13:05] <mhall119> yup
[13:05] <daker> ok
[13:06] <daker> mhall119, the launcher doesn't work on Qimo 2
[13:07] <mhall119> yeah, because I didn't have the xdg menus configured right in qimo-session
[13:07] <daker> ok
[13:07] <mhall119> if you copy /etc/xdg/menus -> /etc/xdg/xdg-qimo/menus it should work
[13:08] <daker> ok i'll ty
[13:08] <daker> try*
[13:11] <mhall119> use the get_bar_width_ratio to get the screen multiple
[13:12] <mhall119> self.bar_width = int(round(self.screen_width * self.get_bar_width_ratio(len(launchers))))
[13:18] <daker> ok mhall119 i'll remove the auto-hiding
[13:20] <mhall119> you can leave it in if you fix the dynamic height
[13:22] <daker> ok
[13:23] <mhall119> also, we'll need to give attribution to ADeskBar for all of their code we're using
[13:23] <daker> sure
[13:24] <daker> mhall119, do you use dual screen ?
[13:24] <mhall119> nope
[13:24] <mhall119> laptop
[13:26] <daker> ok
[13:27] <daker> it works on qimo
[13:27] <daker> brb
[13:48] <mgariepy>  good morning all
[14:20] <highvoltage> good morning mgariepy
[18:15] <highvoltage> so Edubuntu meeting is in around 43 minutes if I got it right this time :)
[18:16] <alkisg> np we can do it again 1 hour later, noone will notice :P
[18:21] <highvoltage> nixternal: really here?
[18:22] <nixternal> yes :)
[18:22] <highvoltage> nixternal: cool. how are things?
[18:22] <nixternal> finally not so hectic now that I have email again. silly gmail and google, silly cloud
[18:23] <alkisg> What's wrong with gmail?
[18:23] <nixternal> mine was down for 2+ days
[18:23] <nixternal> it wasn't an issue for everybody
[18:23] <alkisg> Ouch. Mine was accessed by a chinese IP :-/
[18:23] <highvoltage> nixternal: mind doing a last EC task before the new EC is instated? We're waiting on the CC and mhall119 just needs one more vote for us to give him edubuntu-dev status (for a whole week already :/)
[18:24] <nixternal> sure thing
[18:24] <nixternal> linky?
[18:24] <highvoltage> it was via email on the edubuntu-devel list
[18:24]  * nixternal looks
[18:24] <highvoltage> can I forward it to you?
[18:25] <highvoltage> I forwarded it to your ubuntu address fwiw
[18:27] <nixternal> voted and sent back :)
[18:28] <highvoltage> great, thanks!
[18:28]  * mhall119 hopes it was a +1
[18:28] <highvoltage> I thought you probably weren't on the -devel list anymore anyway
[18:28] <highvoltage> ah, you aren't... (logging into mailman to approve)
[18:29] <nixternal> mhall119: -31 :p
[18:30] <mhall119> :(
[18:47] <highvoltage> mhall119: well, welcome as an official edubuntu developer :)
[18:48] <alkisg> Welcome mhall119 :)
[18:49] <mhall119> \o/
[18:49] <mhall119> and just in time, I'm putting together my qimo 3.0 packages as we speak
[18:49] <alkisg> highvoltage: I see that some people were deactivated from edubuntu-devs when they joined the council, but shouldn't they also stay active as devs too? What if someone leaves the council but wants to stay a dev?
[18:50] <highvoltage> mhall119: we'll get them added to the package set, then I can show you how to upload to it (which should take around 10 seconds)
[18:50] <highvoltage> alkisg: yes! they should, because someone could step down from the council but might still want to be a developer
[18:50] <mhall119> I need to settle on a new name for xdg-launcher first
[18:51] <mhall119> I'm thinking I'll just call it qimo-launcher and be done with it
[18:51] <highvoltage> alkisg: at the time the reasoning was that edubuntu-council members inherit edubuntu-dev anyway, but that's not a good way of doing it, I was actually planning to bring it up at the meeting while I was adding mhall119
[18:52] <alkisg> Nice
[18:52] <highvoltage> mhall119: at least with qimo- no one can claim that you step on their namespace :)
[18:57] <stgraber> alkisg: it's because we should go through the same review process even if we are council member
[18:57] <alkisg> stgraber: right, I thought you already did before becoming council members
[18:58] <stgraber> so EC members who want to join edubuntu-dev should prepare the same documentation
[18:59] <highvoltage> technically we did vote on a few of us initially
[18:59] <highvoltage> (well, let's move to #ubuntu-meeting fwiw)
[19:32] <highvoltage> mhall119: I think it will be quite possible (and easy) for you to get qimo released with ubuntu once I've shown you how debmower works. I'm planning to clean it up on Friday and then when you have some time I can show you how it works
[19:33] <mhall119> highvoltage: looking forward to it
[19:34] <mhall119> I found the ubuntu base i386.squashfs, does it build off that?
[19:34] <highvoltage> mhall119: nope, it builds from scratch, although it allows caching so that you don't have to build completely from scratch each time
[19:35] <highvoltage> (which is pretty much what's happening with that ubuntu base image)
[19:35] <mhall119> ok, and it makes a live session?
[19:36] <highvoltage> yep
[19:36] <mhall119> how about an alternate installer?
[19:36] <highvoltage> it doesn't do alternate, unfortunately
[19:36] <mhall119> ok
[19:36] <highvoltage> eventually I plan to borrow some ideas from http://live.debian.net to do it
[19:37] <highvoltage> the debian live scripts are *great*, but I'm not sure it can be used to build ubuntu systems reliably yet
[19:38] <highvoltage> with the debian-live builder you can quite easily make a disc an alternate installer and live installer disc
[19:45] <mhall119> so, did any of you see the abc7 voicebox thing that partimus.org did?
[19:45] <mhall119> I thought the news was going to be about linux in schools, but the only mention of that was when the host mentioned who partimus.org was
[19:46] <mhall119> everything else was just about current news topics
[19:46] <mhall119> but they did get Jono on tape admitting that he needs a bus to take him home from the clubs at 3am