[00:17] nite === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [02:39] halp! I think I found a bug... can one of you please help me confirm and then walk me through the bug reporting process? [02:40] I changed the switcher with the Simple CompizConfig settings thing, but I can't do alt+shift+tab on the new fancy switchers. alt+tab works fine, alt+shift+tab doesn't do anything in the new switchers [02:40] but it works in the old one [02:40] I'm using a UK keyboard if that makes any difference. I've also tried both shift keys, which shouldn't [02:55] bitplane, are you sure you have 11.04 installed because the compiz that is default is 0.9 [02:56] bitplane, also I think you might want to install compizconfig-settings-manager [02:56] billybigrigger, rather than simple ccsm [02:58] all my software sources say maverick [03:29] Half the plugins' icons are not visible in xfce or is it just me ? [03:30] in xfce panel* [03:41] Volkodav: icons in the system tray shrink until they disappear. [03:42] charlie-tca: I am talking about the panel [03:42] some are visible - some are not [03:42] The tray is in the top panel, next to the speaker, normally. [03:43] I add them - they are in the panel but not visible [03:43] Most of us have them right after we log in, then they dsisappear through the day [03:43] :) [03:44] hm, try changing icon sets or appearance theme? [03:44] panel 2 has it Ok [03:44] yes I changed icons not the theme though [03:45] nope - still the same [03:45] and, it does still have some bugs in 4.7, too [03:46] Some of the plugins are still broken, they won't work yet. They have to fix weather app and something else yet [03:46] That i already see - the panel was substantially rewritten and is full of glitches with compiz on top of it.... [03:46] yup [03:46] say you add any launcer and it is still invisible - you click on where the blind spot is and it works [03:47] with or withpit compiz [03:47] i am sure they'll square it out [03:47] any idea how i restart the panel now? [03:47] Old one would give a menu on the corner right click [03:48] places plugin is gone, too [03:48] Volkodav, killall gnome-panel [03:48] restart it by using Alt+F2, xfce4-panel & [03:49] If you did not pick keep old configuration, you no longer have a menu [03:49] charlie-tca, that makes more sense [03:49] no workie charlie-tca [03:49] you have a top panel, right? [03:50] yeah [03:50] old one used to have restart on right click [03:50] this new one does not [03:50] no it doesn't [03:50] Try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels [03:51] Kill them, then restart it [03:51] why they removed restart though - was very handy [03:51] when killing it will not save the config [03:52] I need it saved [03:52] They completely re-wrote the panel code. It may have just got missed [03:52] They's better put it back in - I will file it as a bug before they forget [03:55] I picked "default configuration" in natty. Got the top panel with what used to be in the bottom and the quit button. Bottom is 4 launchers, one of which is application finder. That replaced the menu for me [03:56] charlie-tca: I change the panels all around - do not even remember how it was day one :) [03:56] It was different! I got that down [03:57] Well, time for bed. Good luck with that. Might have to logout/login, or even restart to get the panel working right again [03:57] Laters charlie-tca [06:01] are we seriously going to have a global menu like mac? [06:01] yes [06:04] will the menu follow the windows when they aren't maximized or are they always going to be at the top? [06:04] that's my biggest hatred of OSX [06:06] If I recall correctly, they stay at the top. [06:06] so gay [06:07] timboy: Don't use "gay" as a pejorative, please. [06:09] it's a suitable pejorative i believe. I'll use it if I want. it means wrong or absurd or bad or backwards [06:09] No, it's not. It's offensive, and not acceptable for Ubuntu's channels. [06:09] i know being gay is offensive [06:10] !codeofconduct | timboy [06:10] timboy: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct . [06:10] i didn't come here for a debate and i don't want to try to dissuade your wrong opinions. [06:11] timboy: Opinions have nothing to do with it. Part of this channel's guidelines are respect for others. Using sexual orientation as a pejorative is disrespectful and unacceptable behavior. [06:11] lol [06:27] I noticed really weird behaviour of the right click in xfce with compiz - the menu of the right click shows up behind the app - I noticed that only on a half transparent window - otherwise it feels like it does not work at all [06:27] any app === evilvish is now known as \vish === \vish is now known as vish === leagris is now known as virtuald [10:04] I have installed natty for testing purpose on my notebook. what is what is the key to see menu in all windows ? [10:05] how do I see the list of running programs ? its not displayed in notification [10:10] h4f, do you use unity? [10:18] i have installed natty from life system, but install does not start. also not able to invoke konsole (alt ctrl f1) [11:26] i have installed natty from life system, but install does not start. also not able to invoke konsole (alt ctrl f1) === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [14:48] i cannot enable unity [14:48] any suggestions, my system is uptodate [15:02] gawd the lanche is ugly ;0 [15:02] launcher [15:54] what ever happened to the sounds that were suppose to be changed? [15:56] art and sounds come later on in the cycle don't they [16:02] Usuaully. [16:02] Usually too. [16:02] ok [16:02] does anyone know who was picked to create the new sounds? [16:03] I don't think that info is revealed until the packages are released [16:04] I could be completely wrong === tremolux_ is now known as tremolux [16:09] I'd guess that the art team might have that information, but I may be wrong as well. [16:09] Pici, i;ll check [16:10] although they did have a site to upload examples of new sounds from the user community [16:13] coz_: a wiki page iirc [16:14] best bet is to ask the art team [16:14] ok === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC [17:39] umnm, so I got alpha1 (tried daily-live also same problem) and I made usb with persistence but its not using the casper-rw. ? [17:58] hmmmm is anyone else getting unity segfaulting [17:59] * fagan updated but thought unity would be fine to update [17:59] the joy of alpha release [18:00] IdleOne: yeah but it was relatively stable up to now [18:00] things break [18:00] its interesting that they let an update thats segfaulting in [18:01] it's to be expected that your alpha os will not boot [18:01] or run properly [18:01] IdleOne: yeah things break but thats where developers at least run their code before pushing an update. I know all that I have been testing for a crap load of releases now. [18:01] or doesn't damage anything [18:02] perhaps it's a very hardware-specific bug [18:02] when we are the upstream (in things like unity) I presume that the sky isnt going to fall for an update [18:02] rumpel__: probably not [18:05] fagan: did you try unity --reset ? [18:11] charlie-tca: nope [18:11] ill give it a go [18:11] it was fixing things yesterday [18:12] charlie-tca: that fixed it [18:13] hanks [18:13] *thanks [18:13] You are welcome [18:13] * charlie-tca got my one right today [18:13] one a day keeps the devs away? [18:13] nope [18:13] I only seem to get one answer right each day [18:14] * charlie-tca thinks no point in trying to answer any more questions todya [18:17] did I mention the Launcher is gosh darn ugly :) [18:18] no :-) [18:18] The launcher is gosh darn ugly :) [18:19] Thank you for mentioning that [18:29] virtualbox is broken in natty? [18:39] does anyone know why tehre is an extra x64 mac version? [18:48] anybody know how to make VBox puel version work again in natty? [20:29] Ive tried lucid and maverick to make a natty usb stick with casper-rw but its just not using the casper-rw, is this a common problem? [20:52] nkt dass der chip + velo damals 190 geksotet ham [20:52] ghostcube: wrong window? [20:53] oh lol sorry i was typing in another chan as the channels openeing all [20:53] my fault [20:53] :) [20:54] as there is not much talking anyway I see no problem - it was only intended as a reminder :-) [20:54] thx so far i havent noticed till you told me :) === ganesh is now known as Guest40264 [21:39] Hello there :) Searching for help about Ubuntu 11.04 :) [21:39] Good sign :P I ask for help and 1 quits >: [21:40] * rumpel__ quits too [21:40] Anyone wanna help me a bit with my Microphone problem :/? my "sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf" is blank, [21:41] Whitor :D Pro Ubuntu user :3? [21:43] 206 people here, and none can help :P [21:43] Wooohoooo [21:44] !helpme [21:44] Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude [21:44] errr, [21:44] I feel shot after that [21:45] Amaranth: i have a problem when i am trying to install updates...shows an error connection to daemon lost....what is this called? [21:45] i have a problem when i am trying to install updates...shows an error connection to daemon lost....what is this called? [21:59] yo [22:08] dyo [22:08] yo* [22:14] whoa gksudo nautilus is giving an error ..."underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you tu run this program [22:19] coz_: not seeing that here [22:19] whoa OpenGL ES is still broken for i965 :/ [22:19] Amaranth: fix it :) [22:20] IdleOne: I'm compiling the i965 gallium driver now [22:20] If the driver itself doesn't fall over GLES is free === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre [22:21] sounds good [22:21] Although this doesn't look promising: " Amaranth: its dead jim." [22:34] -root ALL=(ALL) ALL [22:34] +root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL [22:34] are we changing sudoers? [22:48] hello all [22:50] I created a live usb and when it boots it stops as soon as it shows the 'Debian`date` Peter et all' screen is this a bug? [22:59] BUGabundo: look like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/690873 [22:59] Ubuntu bug 690873 in sudo (Ubuntu) "latest natty sudo upgrade removes admin from /etc/sudoers" [Critical,Triaged] [22:59] OOPS [22:59] should I revert ? [23:00] it is being discussed in #ubuntu-devel [23:00] if you can revert, yes === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS Summaries: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/ | Release Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Happy Bug Hunting! | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Python 2.7 rebuilds are happening now, please wait with updates/upgrades until the rebuilds are done. | Do Not update sudo [23:01] bah [23:01] I created a live usb and when it boots it stops as soon as it shows the 'Debian`date` Peter et all' screen is this a bug? === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/ | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Python 2.7 rebuilds are happening now, please wait with updates/upgrades until the rebuilds are done. | Do Not update sudo currently! [23:19] crimsun: too late [23:19] crimsun: charlie-tca I have my /etc with etckeeper and bazaar [23:20] sufice to revert that? or do I need the binaires too? [23:20] crimsun, why would vlc have a volume control that operates independently of pulse if it's using pulse's output driver? [23:21] I cant create a live usb with persistence, it just wont use the persistence part.. [23:21] bjsnider: "operates independently"? [23:21] bjsnider: note that we still disable flat volumes [23:24] crimsun, what i mean is, vlc's volume control moves separately from the one that appears in pulse's applications tab, and can move the volume higher than pulse can get it [23:25] bugabundo is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [23:26] I guess its to late for me [23:26] live cd here I come [23:26] reported to whom? the swiss navy? [23:27] chroot here I come [23:31] so I'm no longer ROOT of my own laptop... awesome [23:31] machines are taking over [23:32] yeah, the matrix has you [23:33] watch out with updating the sudoers file [23:33] oh [23:33] it's in the topic :p [23:33] to bad :D [23:34] bjsnider: vlc runs an audio filter to boost the volume before sending it to pulse [23:34] So it gets overdrive, 400% volume [23:34] is it possible to turn that off? [23:34] Not that I know of [23:35] well, i don't want the sound filtered [23:39] I updated but I still have root access [23:39] so am I still good? [23:40] yup [23:40] yay [23:50] So, there was just an update...I allowed it to install package-maintainers version of /etc/sudoers, suddenly I can't sudo on my box. [23:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/690873 [23:51] Ubuntu bug 690873 in sudo (Ubuntu) "latest natty sudo upgrade removes admin from /etc/sudoers" [Critical,Triaged] [23:51] yeah. Cool. [23:52] wonder how I should take car eof this :D [23:54] h00k: boot a live cd, mount your root disk and: [23:54] echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers [23:54] to /etc/sudoers on your root disk, of course [23:54] charlie-tca: yeah, I have my USB drive here...I'll do that