/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/15/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

Lupditerrahello, anybody here?00:15
bioterrorfor a moment yes00:15
head_victimLupditerra: how can we help you00:15
Lupditerrahead_victim00:16
Lupditerramy Unity desktop interface just stoped working00:16
Lupditerra:/00:16
bioterrorhaha00:16
head_victimWhat version of Ubuntu?00:16
LupditerraMaverick00:16
LupditerraNetbook Remix00:16
bioterrorhead_victim, hope you have experience with unity, I have none00:17
head_victimbioterror: I was just about to suggest the same.00:17
head_victimLupditerra: what sort of symptoms are you having?00:17
LupditerraNone :p00:17
LupditerraIt was working fine.00:17
Lupditerrathen it just stoped working, no errors, no nothing00:17
head_victimSo you can't boot into it, or you can't open windows in it or?00:17
LupditerraI have it as my default environment00:17
Lupditerrait doesnt load00:18
LupditerraI'm on the normal desktop now00:18
head_victimDid you have any updates before you rebooted the last time?00:18
Lupditerraplenty00:18
Lupditerrado you think it might be because of Compiz?00:18
head_victimAnything is possible :)00:18
Lupditerralol00:18
head_victimI just wanted to get an idea so I can start looking around for a solution00:19
LupditerraSome one suggested to delete it and reinstall it... haven't done that00:19
Lupditerrashould I start there?00:19
head_victimAs long as you're talking about one application not the whole system that would be a reasonable start.00:21
Lupditerrao.O00:21
Cheri703hey folks, I need to harness the group mind here, I'm standing in MicroCenter, trying to figure out if a printer can work in ubuntu00:21
Lupditerrawait I just try to run it from the terminal00:22
Lupditerralet me see what it says00:22
Cheri703I'm searching, but not finding anything concrete. I don't really want to buy it and get it home and have it not work :(00:22
head_victimCheri703: model?00:22
Cheri703there's another option that SHOULD work in ubuntu, but I like the features on the other better00:22
Cheri703canon pixma mg522000:22
Lupditerraany hp will work00:22
Cheri703I am anti hp00:22
head_victimCheri703: apparently http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100301702.html has a driver that works00:23
Cheri703full support? I'm tethered with my phone, so it's slow loading00:23
Lupditerradamn, a lot of errors now :/00:23
Cheri703and woo! if so :)00:24
head_victimLupditerra: can you pastebin them?00:24
head_victimCheri703: why anti HP? I love my 4250 and 2610. Both networked, both just work.00:24
Lupditerrayeah00:24
Lupditerralet it finnish00:24
head_victimLupditerra: sure :)00:25
Cheri703I hate the games they play with the ink expiration dates, and every hp I've had has had issues00:25
Cheri703head_victim: if that's an official canon driver, it should support all features, yes?00:26
head_victimCheri703: link came from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158833300:26
Cheri703ok, awesome, thanks :)00:26
head_victimCheri703: no worries00:27
Cheri703can I note that I'm annoyed at the fact that I googled several times and that thread didn't come up :(00:27
Lupditerraok, here it is http://pastebin.com/qLWm9Grv00:27
head_victimHah that's what they said on the forum. It's possible I have an upper hand being in .au myself where th elink is (apparently the other canon sites only have .rpm so not sure why we are special with a .deb but as long as it works)00:28
Cheri703ah, nice. the canon usa didn't have ANY linux00:28
Cheri703europe had linux listed, but no drivers, usa didn't even have it as an option00:29
head_victimCheri703: well it's not regularly we are class leading down here but nice to see we got one thing right (crosses fingers it actually works now)00:30
Cheri703:) yeah, I'm getting it from a place with awesome return policies, just in case ;)00:31
Cheri703headed to checkout now, I'll be back online in a bit (headed to a coffee shop after this) thanks head_victim !!!00:31
CharlesIngallsHello, everyone. I'm not so sure how this IRC works, but I'd really like some help with some GRUB issues I'm having. Anyone?00:32
head_victim!ask | CharlesIngalls00:32
ubot2CharlesIngalls: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:32
CharlesIngallsProblem is I actually don't have any GRUB menu since I installed 10.1000:32
head_victimCharlesIngalls: does it still boot and it's just hidden or it just doesn't work?00:33
head_victimLupditerra: googling madly now00:33
Lupditerrahead_victim: thanks man, I hope you're luckier than I was :/00:33
CharlesIngallsIt's a dual boot but there's no GRUB. It immediately starts in Ubuntu.00:33
head_victimLupditerra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589023 is that similar to what you're experiencing?00:34
head_victimCharlesIngalls: ah ok00:34
Lupditerrahead_victim: let me check00:35
head_victimCharlesIngalls: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager you might find it's just auto booting to ubuntu instead of giving you options00:35
head_victimI must admit since grub2 kicked off that gui start up manager has been great for me00:36
asterismohi people00:37
asterismoi have a question00:37
head_victimasterismo: shoot00:37
asterismoi cant export a drawing that i made under XaraLX to SVG for editing with Inkscape00:38
CharlesIngallsI'll try and install startupmanager, then. Thanks a bunch for the tip, head_victim.00:38
asterismois there anyway to save this drawing or exporting to something else?00:38
asterismoit took me like hours to make it00:39
head_victimasterismo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135272100:39
head_victimLooks like you might want to save as EPS then open that in inkscape?00:39
asterismothanks so much head_victim00:39
head_victimasterismo: I just hope it helps :)00:40
Lupditerrahead_victim: this guy just told me that Unity is not ment to run in Linux, but Maverick Netbook Remix comes with it as a default00:41
head_victimLupditerra: which guy? Unity has been in the netbook for some time and is going to be a part of the desktop shortly00:41
LupditerraI know!00:42
Lupditerrao.O00:42
head_victimSounds odd to me00:42
head_victimSo did that link look like what you're experiencing?00:43
Lupditerranop00:43
Lupditerrabut I'm reading on to see if I need to unistall Compiz00:43
head_victimLupditerra: apparently the current Unity does not use compiz from what I'm reading. They are moving towards it but not until Natty00:44
Lupditerracause I think is something messing with GTK00:44
LupditerraUninstallin atm00:44
head_victimI'm sorry I'm not more precise but I've not ever used Unity to date. I would suggest removing/disabling compiz though to see if that works00:44
head_victimHeh beat me to it00:45
Lupditerralol :p00:45
Lupditerraentry has no children00:46
Lupditerrao.O00:46
head_victimNeither do I :)00:46
LupditerraI'll just reinstall the whole thing at lest see what happens o.O00:47
firewall_03sup00:50
Chiquinhohi someone knows bluetooth configuration01:24
aveilleuxThat wasn't a question...01:26
asterismohi01:57
asterismoagain01:57
hajourhi asterismo01:57
asterismoi couldn't do it01:58
asterismoexport .xar vector draw of XaraLX in other readable format for inkscape01:58
asterismodoes anyone know how to convert .xar files in .svg, .ai or something?01:59
asterismoi just can't believe i'll loose all the work i've done in this software01:59
asterismoany designer here?02:01
asterismois there any designer channel where may i post this problem?02:03
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hajoursorry for delay asterismo02:05
asterismoi'm so desperate02:05
hajouri go look for help for you brb02:05
asterismothis is the only post i found http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?31785-from-XaraLX-to-SVG...-a-round-about-way02:06
asterismoworkaround, but i think this is not what i want02:06
asterismobecause it prints the draw in PS format02:06
hajouri looking for the right person for you asterismo02:09
duanedesignhello asterismo02:15
hajourgreat asterismo  meet duanedesign02:16
hajourduanedesign, dos graphic design02:16
hajourhe shall respons duanedesign  he already waited a time when i have see that he was here02:17
duanedesignasterismo: Xara LX is supposed to have some utility that will export to svg. However it does flatten, or remove the layers02:17
asterismohi duanedesign, sorry, bathroom02:24
asterismoi made a drawing in XaraLX and now i want to save it or export it to SVG or some other readable format for inkscape02:25
asterismobut i export it but inkscape shows empty page02:25
asterismothe same for .ai and .eps02:25
asterismoXaraLX crash for .eps exporting02:25
asterismo.svg and .ai are empty files02:26
asterismothanks hajour02:26
duanedesignasterismo: other then making sure all your layers are visible, I am not sure what it could be02:29
hajouryour welcome asterismo02:30
hajourduanedesign, is there a place where he can ask else if it not succeed?02:42
asterismoi just don't know what the heck is wrong02:43
asterismoi have the drawing02:43
asterismojust 1 layer02:43
asterismofile > export > svg it asks 1.1 or 1.2 version02:43
asterismonothing saved02:43
hajourasterismo, say the name in the line02:43
asterismosorry, duanedesign02:44
hajourwe are often switch true 3 or 5 channels02:44
hajourore more02:44
duanedesign:\02:44
duanedesignthe only place i can think is maybe the inkscape forum, or if they have an irc channel02:45
Mohan_chmlasterismo, try #inkscape it has 75 peeps there02:46
asterismonobody talks to me02:48
asterismonevermind02:49
Mohan_chmlaww02:49
hajour#inkscape is a design channel?02:52
hajourfor ubuntu?02:52
Mohan_chmlhajour, no02:52
hajourmm ok i was just wondering02:53
Mohan_chmlasterismo, I think they will never answer :|02:54
Mohan_chmlasterismo, look at http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=222802:54
asterismodon't know what the IRC is for anyway02:55
asterismothe IRC channel, people usually gets into channels to talk02:55
hajourmaybe they are not there on the moment and let there chat open.for to look back later02:57
MrAnthropeyay I'm not banned.04:14
Cheri703head_victim: maybe you can help me some more :)04:14
Cheri703I'm trying to install this printer driver that you oh so helpfully directed me to, and I'm getting a "error package management system cannot be identified"04:15
Cheri703(or anyone actually)04:17
MrAnthropeI know absolutely nothing about this, but what kind of printer?04:17
Cheri703canon pixma mg522004:18
Cheri703getting an error when I run the install script04:18
MrAnthropehave you read this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147533604:19
gstarx90what's the erro?04:19
gstarx90error, also04:19
Cheri703An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified04:19
Cheri703yeah04:19
gstarx90hm04:21
gstarx90you'll need to edit something from the script04:21
gstarx90brb04:25
Cheri703yeah04:26
gstarx90from the script, add a # from every lineexcept C_system="deb"04:27
Cheri703ok04:28
Cheri703EVERY line?04:28
Cheri703or from the top down?04:28
gstarx90every line except C_system="deb"04:31
gstarx90it wouldn't matter what order :p04:31
Cheri703ok04:31
MrAnthropePutting a # in front of a line makes the code ignore the line completely. It's the same as deleting the line without actually deleting it. A dangerous thing to do with code you don't understand :)04:32
MrAnthropeThe code will read the line as a 'comment', and skip the entire line.04:33
Cheri703ok, found it04:33
Cheri703wasn't in the right part of it04:34
Cheri703rawr, did it again, will recheck04:34
Cheri703now I got "An error occurred. A necessary package could not be found in the proper location."04:34
MrAnthropeWell at least you have a different error. That's progress :)04:35
Cheri703I don't know where to look in the script to see where it's looking for the files04:35
MrAnthropeWish I could help more. My HP just worked right when I plugged it in.04:40
MrAnthropeMy scanner, on the other hand, is most definitely not supported and there is no way to make it work on Linux. So I had to throw it away.04:40
Cheri703np, I appreciate the input thus far!04:40
Cheri703my hp was dumb, it basically crapped out, so I got this one :)04:41
MrAnthropeAh.04:42
head_victimCheri703: works for me04:46
Cheri703:(04:46
head_victimI just downloaded the package, unpacked it and then went to the cli and just typed in /path/to/extracted/file/install.sh and it worked04:47
Cheri703:(04:47
Cheri703will try again04:47
head_victimGot up to "register the printer" but I don't have one so it wont wokr04:48
head_victimYou are using the install script right?04:48
Cheri703yes, and just unzipped again and got the "necessary package could not be found"04:49
Cheri703error04:49
Cheri703:(04:50
Cheri703head_victim: what is the path that yours unzipped to?04:53
MrAnthropeHow do I check my conky version?04:53
head_victimCheri703: ok I downloaded it to my deskop, I opened it with fileroller and hit "extract" and left it as default04:53
head_victimThis then put another folder on the desktop with the long name04:54
nit-witMrAnthrope, in synaptic04:54
Cheri703:/ that's what I did, except extracted to home folder, so /home/user/cniblahblah04:54
head_victimInside that I just double clicked the install.sh04:54
nit-witMrAnthrope, or do you mean what you see on the desktop04:54
head_victimHit "run in terminal"04:54
Cheri703terminal popped up and then disappeared :/04:55
Cheri703if I manually run from terminal, I get the error04:55
MrAnthropeWell I don't see anything on the desktop. And I can't find the .conky file in my home folder. But it's in synaptic. conky-all 1.8.0-1ubuntu104:55
head_victimCheri703: normal Ubuntu 10.04 here not sure if that makes a difference04:55
Cheri703well, I'm now back to the original error, can't identify package management system :(04:56
Cheri703same here head_victim04:56
head_victimDoes it ask you for your password?04:56
nit-witMrAnthrope, it is in file move the .conkyrc folder to home it will be hidden or download one run conky in terminal to start it04:56
Cheri703nope04:56
Cheri703did it with sudo, got the little header part, then the same error04:57
nit-witMrAnthrope, very customizable04:57
head_victimDownload again?04:57
Cheri703was just about to say that :)04:57
nit-witMrAnthrope, file/etc/conky04:58
MrAnthropeNothing happens. http://pastebin.com/AhRRZfaL04:58
MrAnthropeooooh. ok.04:58
Cheri703redownloaded, extracted to different location, same error >.<04:59
Cheri703going to restart and try again04:59
Cheri703back in a bit04:59
nit-witMrAnthrope, move the .conkyrc from file/etc/conky to home then run conky in terminal. here is waht my terminal looks like.http://pastebin.com/YJuL88M905:01
nit-witwhat05:01
MrAnthropeHrm the only hidden folder in /etc is .java.05:01
MrAnthropeI have a conky folder but it's just got to .conf files in it.05:01
MrAnthropes/to/two05:01
nit-witMrAnthrope, it is not hidden in etc it is a regular file called conky with .conkrc inside05:03
MrAnthropeYeah my conky folder just has conky.conf and conky_no_x11.conf05:04
MrAnthropeNo hidden files.05:05
nit-witMrAnthrope, the stock setup would probably not what you wanted anyway there area ton of customized conky downloads on the web just put one in home I will paste bin mine to start with if you like05:05
MrAnthropeI'd like that :)05:05
nit-withold on05:05
nit-witMrAnthrope, here is mine just put in a gedit name it  .conyrc it will show in the top right corner of the screen probably.  http://pastebin.com/cZxgcR7R05:08
nit-witMrAnthrope, put it home of course and run the command in the terminal, you can also make a autostartup for it05:09
nit-wittime fror cig brb05:09
bodhizazen'lo starcraft , good to see you05:12
bodhizazentronyx, how goes ?05:12
Mohan_chmlHola bodhizazen05:13
bodhizazen'lo Mohan_chml05:13
Cheri703so the script still won't run, but I manually installed the packages...I have some functionality, but not as much as I'd expect from a manufacturer's driver :/ not sure if that's all there is, or if I'm missing something still05:13
Mohan_chmlbodhizazen, edited the readme file?05:13
bodhizazenyes Mohan_chml05:13
Mohan_chml(:05:13
MrAnthropeConky: invalid configuration file '/home/geo/.conkyrc'05:13
bodhizazenMohan_chml, I changed my server over05:13
bodhizazenhave you seen the new site ?05:14
Mohan_chmlnope05:14
head_victimCheri703: I was going to suggest double clicking the .debs next05:14
bodhizazenhttp://bodhizazen.net/05:14
nit-witMrAnthrope, is it in a gedit?05:14
Mohan_chmlThe page looks awesome bodhizazen =]05:14
Cheri703it is only offering me a max resolution of 600dpi, when the thing is supposed to do MUCH MORE than that... :/ will be really frustrating if I'm crippled with it in ubuntu :( other than this, it's pretty darn awesome05:15
bodhizazenTY Mohan_chml05:15
bodhizazenCheri703, what are you trying to configure ?05:15
Cheri703a canon printer05:15
Cheri703pixma mg522005:15
MrAnthropeyup. There's more to the error I will pastebin it. http://pastebin.com/T6chHv9Z05:15
nit-witbodhizazen, thats ah beautiful site05:15
Cheri703head_victim: maybe it likes yours because it's australian?05:16
head_victimCheri703: haha possible I guess. We are a bit exclusive down here ;)05:16
nit-witMrAnthrope, is it in a gedit and do you know what gedit is05:16
bodhizazenthanks nit-wit , I re-wrote the css, matched the wordpress (blog) theme, took a bit of effort05:16
head_victimCheri703: see if printing from a program will allow higher res, it might only like defaults up to 60005:17
MrAnthropelol yes it's in gedit.05:17
MrAnthropedoes it need to be named .txt?05:17
nit-witbodhizazen, nice minimalist theme Buddha05:17
Cheri703I printed from glabels, and it didn't even have a quality option :(05:17
Mohan_chmlbodhizazen, you aligned it to the center? coz I can see some space at the bottom. use some of your drawings to fill it =]05:18
head_victimCheri703: sorry I'm out of ideas :/05:19
nit-witMrAnthrope, trying to figure it out05:19
Cheri703:( ok, I appreciate your help though!05:20
head_victimCheri703: I have to head off to work again but maybe if you add some comments to that forum post if it's not too old and see if anyone else has had better luck05:20
Cheri703I may do that, thanks :)05:20
MrAnthropenit-wit: typo :)05:20
nit-witMrAnthrope, so from paste bin it brings all the line numbers and makes it double spaced05:21
nit-witMrAnthrope, should be no space numbers and singlr spaced, double space may be okay not sure05:21
nit-witsingle05:21
MrAnthropeNo error anymore. Still not opening a window though.05:21
MrAnthropehttp://pastebin.com/38dy1k2V05:22
nit-witMrAnthrope, try this cleaner scripts you have to find what works and do some intuitive editing just keep a backup befor you edit. Tons of conky scripts on line a a thread with thosands and scrips on the Ubuntu Forums.05:24
geekosopherbodhizazen: on the first page of your website, in 'nirvana' section, you start with <ul> tag but close it with </ol> tag... I am not a html-guru hence confused05:24
nit-witMrAnthrope, http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html05:24
MrAnthropeAlright, thanks :)05:24
nit-witMrAnthrope, it takes a little learning curve not much though hey i figured it out anyone can.;)05:25
MrAnthropelol05:26
MrAnthropeHmm this says something about nautilus requiring conky to be in its own window.05:30
bodhizazengeekosopher, thanks, fixed that05:31
nit-witMrAnthrope, open the menu-admin-system monitor and look for any other conky running05:31
geekosopherbodhizazen: np :)05:32
nit-witMrAnthrope, if any are kill them05:32
bodhizazenMohan_chml, space where exactly ?05:32
MrAnthropeOh it's working! yay!05:32
Mohan_chmlbodhizazen, scroll down and you can see some space at the bottom =]05:33
Mohan_chmlidk whether its usual or not. but felt that there is some space05:33
nit-witMrAnthrope, tipeee05:34
nit-wityipeee05:34
nit-witMrAnthrope, conky used to mess with the desktop but works great now with little use of the system generally05:34
MrAnthropeUntil I click on the desktop then it goes away and I have to kill it.05:34
nit-witMrAnthrope, what desktop ubuntu05:35
MrAnthropemmmm gnome?05:36
nit-witMrAnthrope, should work in just gnome what is the actual install, did you remove or change the desktop05:37
nit-witMrAnthrope, what version as well what distro?05:37
hajourhai nit-wit05:38
nit-withajour, hows it going05:38
hajourcan i talk to you so in offtopic?05:38
nit-withajour, sure05:38
hajourok :) i waith there05:38
MrAnthropeJust Ubuntu 10.0405:39
MrAnthropeIt's a fairly new install.05:39
nit-withajour, I have a dialogue window open05:39
hajoura ok thanks05:40
nit-witMrAnthrope, it is Ubuntu then conky should work, maybe it just needs to be purged and reinstalled. If there was no .conkrc to begin with that is starnge05:41
MrAnthropeYeah I'm using different scripts and it's the same window for every script. So it's not reading the scripts I'm putting in there.05:42
nit-witMrAnthrope, hit crtl-h for the hidden and look for any thing conky in home. The only thing there should be what you put there.05:45
MrAnthropeYup.05:45
MrAnthropeAll well. I'll figure it out later. It's semi-working now.05:48
MrAnthropethanks for all the help :)05:48
bodhizazenMohan_chml, you mean, if you scroll the content ?05:49
bodhizazenspace below content ?05:49
bodhizazenback05:57
Mohan_chmlbodhizazen, I thought you were off and so I sent you a memo :P05:57
bodhizazenbroke X there for a min =)05:57
Mohan_chmlI think you broke it :P05:57
bodhizazenthank you for the screen shot05:58
Mohan_chml(:05:58
bubbalooohajour,  I lost my connection06:33
bubbalooohajour, back again with the correct name06:35
nit-witcorrect now I think06:35
hajouruch to late06:36
Cheri703head_victim: I did end up posting to that thread about the mg5200 series, but I downloaded turboprint and used that driver, MUCH MUCH more functionality :)06:46
head_victimCheri703: just glad it works :)\06:51
Cheri703me too! and I installed the windows version in my vm, so I have ALL KINDS of options available. I appreciate your help!06:51
head_victimCheri703: it's nice to hear when things work out.06:52
Cheri703:)06:53
Cheri703I'm off to bed, have a good night/day/whatever it is where you are. :)06:53
shahanMohan_chml, hi08:16
shahan:)08:16
Mohan_chmlHello shahan08:17
shahanMohan_chml, how r u  Mohan_chml08:17
Mohan_chmlhe he. use my name one in a line :P -team please =]08:17
bodhizazennight all =)08:19
Mohan_chmlNight Boss08:19
harmony1001How can I obtain a list of users or computers connected to my ubuntu samba shares?09:06
bioterrorsmbstatus09:07
raubvogelIf you do an upgrade to a package that some services being run depend on, will the upgrade also restart those services?09:16
jerkcan anyone please tell me how to get two audio outputs (headphone and speakers) both at the same time?09:37
Silver_Fox_Hello.11:01
duanedesignhello Silver_Fox_11:43
Silver_Fox_Hello duanedesign .11:43
zeroseven0183What's up, people?11:51
duanedesignhello zeroseven018311:56
Silver_Fox_Hello zeroseven018311:57
Silver_Fox_How is duanedesign  ?11:58
zeroseven0183Silver_Fox_, someone is looking for you in the Community Cafe http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10231643&postcount=337012:01
zeroseven0183:-)12:01
Silver_Fox_*sigh ninjad12:04
zeroseven0183Ooopppsss. kernel update. Gotta restart12:07
zeroseven0183Hmmm... new kernel version did not appear in GRUB. Anybody encountered that?12:09
* Mohan_chml is still in Lucid12:09
Mohan_chmland no updates for 3 days recently12:10
Mohan_chmlzeroseven0183, tries os-prober and update-grub?12:10
Mohan_chmltried*12:10
zeroseven0183I'm sure Update Manager did the update-grub for me.12:12
Mohan_chmltry os-prober and then update-grub again. Just give a try =]12:13
zeroseven0183Still didn't see the new version12:14
zeroseven0183It's suppose to scroll during the update-grub12:14
zeroseven0183I mean, it's suppose to appear in the terminal during the update-grub12:14
zeroseven01832.6.35-24 is _not_ the latest, right?12:16
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: i am doing good.12:16
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kosaidpohello guys14:15
kosaidpoanyone kno how ican lanch up nitrogen ?? i tried nitrogen --restore but it doesnt work14:15
zeroseven0183People, does anyone here having version conflicts when you type lsb_release -a and open the About Ubuntu window in System menu?14:20
zeroseven0183I'm using 10.10 but my About Ubuntu window tells that it's already 11.04 Natty.14:20
zeroseven0183I filed a bug report in case someone encounters this. Just hit the "This bug affects you" link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/690654 Thanks14:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 690654 in yelp (Ubuntu) "About Ubuntu Window Shows Different Version (11.04) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]14:21
kosaidpoanyone using nitrogen guys ??14:44
raubvogelIf you do an upgrade to a package that some services being run depend on, will the upgrade also restart those services?15:56
IdleOneraubvogel: usually yes16:09
raubvogelIdleOne, First example I can think of is openssl as the package being upgraded. Would mail (if it does tls)16:10
raubvogeland even openssh be restarted? If not, how would they start using the  new ssl libraries?16:10
IdleOneraubvogel: if they don't restart then the continue using the existing libs and on reboot or manual restart of the service they will use the new lib16:11
raubvogelIdleOne, but there is no guarantee they will be restarted once openssl is upgraded.16:11
IdleOneraubvogel: well, things can go wrong and the upgrade can break but chances are slim. I assume the new libs are tested to make sure they work16:12
IdleOneraubvogel: also have to consider the version of Ubuntu. IF your running 10.04 LTS I would not expect much breakage.16:15
IdleOnehonestly, I rarely have any issues with any version of Ubuntu16:16
kristian-aalborghi ppl16:19
kristian-aalborgin all honesty, which is best for modest hardware: cli ubuntu or cli debian?16:19
IdleOneeither16:22
kristian-aalborgthey seem rather similar... one thing I'm a bit unsatisfied with in Ubuntu is the availability of a boot log, or rather the lack thereof16:23
kristian-aalborgwould anybody know if that's better in debian?16:24
raubvogelIdleOne, is there an upgrade log I can check and see which services (that were dependent on the upgrade) were restarted? I am using 10.04 LTS BTW16:34
IdleOne/var/log/apt/history.log should be what you want16:35
IdleOnekristian-aalborg: /var/log/boot.log16:37
kristian-aalborgIdleOne: I know that one but can't get it to work properly - and yes, I turned it on ;)16:38
IdleOnekristian-aalborg: then you already know more then I do, turn it on?16:38
IdleOnehehe16:38
kristian-aalborgokay, so I borked my /home - what files should I get to make the reinstall easier? I already got a list of installed packages16:42
shahanI installed the KDE on my GNOME maverick16:44
shahanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html#other-desktop-kde16:45
shahanthis is the link how I did it16:45
shahanbut I want to know the process how to delete it16:45
philinuxshahan: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome16:48
IdleOnekristian-aalborg: just use the Live CD and reinstall, manually select your partitions and don't format /home (if you want to keep it)16:49
kristian-aalborgIdleOne: too late, I borked it beyond repair when I tried to reinstall16:50
IdleOnekristian-aalborg: is this a dual boot?16:50
kristian-aalborgnope16:50
IdleOneif not, select use entire disk and let the installer do its thing :)16:50
shahanphilinux, tnxn16:51
shahanphilinux, its downloading something...16:51
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shahanmay take 15 mins16:51
IdleOneor again you can select select the partitions manually. I do, 10GB for / and the rest for /home16:51
IdleOne1.5x amount of ram for /swap16:52
philinuxGood guide for swap. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq16:54
philinuxshahan: If you copied and pasted the whole thing in it will take a while as it's removing a lot of stuff16:55
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raubvogelIdleOne, /var/log/apt/history.log shows is which packages were installed/removed/upgraded. The list of packages affected by the upgraded packages is not there though17:05
IdleOneraubvogel: I don't know if there is such a list17:06
kristian-aalborgIdleOne: I got xorg.conf and a list of what I've installed... what else can I save?17:12
IdleOneyour media if any17:13
shahanphilinux, downloaded about 32 MB files17:13
IdleOne!clone17:13
ubot2To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate17:13
shahanphilinux,  now its removing a lot of files17:13
shahano my god17:15
shahanits removing VLC, SKYPE17:15
pedro3005ctrl + c17:15
shahanI dont know why?\17:15
shahanpedro3005, it replies nothing17:16
IdleOneshahan: VLC is not part of the default kubuntu install17:25
IdleOneyou can reinstall it after17:25
shahanIdleOne, I have to download about 12.1 MB archives17:26
shahanIdleOne, for VLC17:26
IdleOneok?17:27
shahanIdleOne, however, tnx for your help17:28
shahanIdleOne, now it seems light17:28
shahan:)17:28
IdleOnekubuntu comes with amarok which is a nice media player17:29
zkriesseohai IdleOne ! Long time no see17:44
IdleOnehey zkriesse17:44
zkriesseHow goes it?17:44
IdleOnegood thanks and you?17:45
zkriessefine17:46
zkriesseFinals are over17:46
IdleOneThat is good, now you get to relax for the holidays :)17:46
zkriesseyou17:46
zkriesse"yup17:47
Silver_Fox_Goodbye.18:12
kendrickLeiterI am using firefox with Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (Totem Compatible) but am having trouble viewing movie clips online.  They will usually show, but may not playback, and if I scroll to a different time, audio plays but not video18:20
UndiFineDkendrickLeiter, browser plugins may differ from gui plugins18:22
holsteinso, i have some questions about multibooting and GRUB18:44
holsteinive had windows installed before18:44
holsteinand put buntu besied it18:44
holsteinbeside*18:44
holsteinso i get that18:44
holsteinBUT18:44
holsteinim interested in having some test istallations going18:44
holsteinmaverick natty and lucid18:45
holsteinside by side18:45
holsteinand i havent really done that before18:45
holsteinim wondering what happens when kernels get updated?18:45
nit-witholstein, do you have a extended partition around your whole linux install18:45
holsteinnit-wit: i can18:45
holsteini can start from scratch really18:45
holsteini just kinda need all of them running natively18:46
holsteinand this is the best box for the job i think18:46
tronyxo.o holstein fancy seeing you here!18:46
holsteintronyx: HEY18:46
holsteinlong time no talk18:46
tronyxhow goes sir?18:46
holsteinhows it going?18:46
tronyxnot bad.  moved back to chicago18:46
holsteinsome snow on the ground here18:47
nit-witholstein, there are a couple of factors any single HD can have 4 primaries or 3 primary patitions and one exteneded which can have as many as you can fit it it18:47
holsteini bet you got plenty up there :)18:47
tronyxlol yea, and it's VERY cold18:47
tronyxwhen are you playing in chicago holstein18:47
* holstein hasnt been up that way in years18:47
tronyxah that's a shame18:47
holsteini could go up there and play with a guitar player that moved up there from here18:47
holsteinits just a bit far to go18:47
holsteinbut i totally should18:48
nit-witholstein, what genre18:48
holsteintronyx: you move right back where you were?18:48
holsteinnit-wit: jazz mostly18:48
holsteinnit-wit: you play?18:48
tronyxyea, pretty much holstein18:48
nit-witholstein, former Jazzpro myself multi-instrumentalist18:48
tronyxmuch happier to be back.  NC is a solid state and has some cool areas, but charlotte isn't one of them18:48
holsteintronyx: i was just wondering if you had to get set up somewhere new18:48
holsteinnah, im not a huge fan of charlotte18:49
holsteingood folks over there though18:49
tronyxit's boring as hell18:49
holsteincan be ;)18:49
holsteinnit-wit: cool18:49
holsteinhow former?18:49
nit-witholstein, its been a few yraes since i just practiced a bit longer for a actual group last one was full improv, multimedia way out, sun rah meets Ornette Coleman like18:50
holsteinnice18:51
holsteini got to open for the sun ra band18:51
holsteinthe ghost band18:51
holsteincrazy cats ;)18:51
nit-witholstein,  a amazing group of players in that group, thats cool sun rah was a enigma18:51
nit-witbrb18:52
TJ__How do i get Amarok to play mp3's on ubuntu 10.10?18:52
holsteinTJ__: do you have a codec?18:52
holsteinfor mp3 playback?18:52
holsteini guess what im asking is, is it just amarok that will not play mp3's?18:53
TJ__I only have amarok and im pretty sure i dont have an mp3 codec. which package should i download?18:54
holsteinyou could open whatever you use to download packages18:54
holsteinand search for mp318:54
holsteini usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras18:55
holsteinfirst thing18:55
holsteinbut thats more that just mp3 codec18:55
holsteinlet me look for the fluendo package name...18:55
TJ__I know i already have the ubuntu ristricted extras package downloaded18:56
holsteinhmmm18:56
holsteinTJ__: would you mind installing VLC ?18:56
holsteinand trying that?18:56
holsteinjust to rule out if its the player or the codec?18:56
holsteinsudo apt-get install vlc18:56
TJ__haha i already have that too. im downloading rythmbox again right now to see if that will play mp3's18:57
holsteinTJ__: open a terminal18:57
holsteinand run18:57
holsteinclvc /path/to/some.mp318:57
geekosopherholstein: is gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner what you are looking for?18:58
holsteingeekosopher: seems like it18:58
holsteinis that in maverick?18:58
holsteingstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp318:58
geekosopheryes18:58
holsteinis what i found in lucid18:58
geekosopher'apt-cache search codec | grep mp318:59
holsteingeekosopher: an mp3 codec is still in that meta-package though right?18:59
geekosophergives only this18:59
geekosopherlooking18:59
holsteinthe ubuntu-restricted-extras ?18:59
TJ__rythmbox plays mp3's just fine19:00
holsteinTJ__: AH19:00
geekosopherholstein: as you said, its lot more than mp319:00
TJ__I unstalled everything amarok earlier and reinstalled it. same problem19:00
geekosopher0_019:00
TJ__ya idk..19:01
holsteinhttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3:Kubuntu19:01
TJ__maybe a compatability issue with maverick?19:01
holsteinmaybe??19:01
TJ__ill check it out19:02
holsteinmaybe you need libxine1-ffmpeg19:02
holsteinthats an OLD page though i think19:02
geekosopherTJ__: i am using amarok on kubuntu maverick and mp3s are playing just fine19:02
geekosopherbut I have started to like mpg12319:03
TJ__ya that page hasnt been updated since nov. 09 but ill try it19:04
TJ__if ibxine doesnt work i might just have to try mpg12319:07
TJ__sweet the codec worked amarok plays mp3's without a problem now19:08
TJ__thanks everyone!19:09
holstein:)19:09
holsteinso what im not clear on is, say i have lucid installed19:10
geekosopherTJ__: you mean the libxine package?19:10
holsteinand i install maverick beside it19:10
holsteinTHEN grub is istalled again19:10
holsteinre-installed19:10
holsteinwhat happens when im in lucid19:10
holsteinand i get a kernel update19:10
holsteinOR want to install a different kernel?19:10
holsteinkernel testing is part of this process as well for me19:10
geekosopherholstein: after updating/installing in lucid, go to maverick and do 'update-grub'19:11
holsteingeekosopher: im assuming TJ meant that package19:11
holsteingeekosopher: SO, i just go the the OS that installed grub19:11
holsteinsudo update-grub19:11
holsteinand bob is my uncle?19:11
holsteinpretty much?19:11
geekosopherpretty much19:11
holsteini can handle that...19:12
geekosopherthat, or don't install grub when installing maverick19:12
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holsteinAH19:12
geekosopherand do the other way round when there is kernel update in maverick19:12
holsteinthen i update grub in lucid19:12
holsteinand it'll find it19:12
holsteintotally makes sense now19:12
holsteini couldnt get my mind around it for some reason19:13
geekosopherany version later than karmic will find19:13
holsteinyeah, something with grub2?19:13
geekosopheryes19:13
holsteinnot the older one...19:13
geekosopherno19:13
holsteinwhatever grub was pre karmic19:13
holsteingrub119:13
holsteingrub 'legacy'19:14
geekosophergrub-legacy19:14
geekosopheryes19:14
geekosopher:)19:14
holsteinthanks :)19:14
geekosopheralways welcome19:14
beachbuddahso it looks as though I've broken something19:20
beachbuddahI have a euro-style do not enter sign on my systray19:20
beachbuddahI can't update19:20
nit-wittheres's  no place like gnome there's no place like gnome19:20
holsteinbeachbuddah: maybe open a terminal19:21
nit-withobgoblin, yoh19:21
holsteinand try running sudo apt-get update19:21
hobgoblingnome's are just myths like goblins nit-wit19:21
holsteinsee what error you get19:21
nit-withobgoblin, the gnomes are safe as long as they stay on the lawn19:21
beachbuddahE: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)19:22
beachbuddahE: The list of sources could not be read.19:22
holsteinbeachbuddah: did you add a PPA?19:22
holsteinmaybe look over your sources19:22
beachbuddahI did19:22
holsteinand see if everything looks proper19:22
beachbuddahI have since removed but the error continues19:22
holsteinhmmm19:22
beachbuddahhmm indeed19:22
beachbuddahzackly how I feel19:23
holsteini dont think this is too bad though19:23
geekosopherbeachbuddah: can you paste your sources.list file?19:23
beachbuddahcli command geekosopher?19:23
geekosopherno, the contents of /etc/sources.list19:23
beachbuddahright - how do19:24
geekosopher/etc/apt/sources.list that is19:24
beachbuddahhow do I go about getting that?19:24
hobgoblincat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to a psatebin19:24
beachbuddahgotcha19:24
hobgoblinunless you have pastebinit installed inwhich case cat /etc/apt/sources.list |pastebinit19:25
hobgoblinand give us the url19:25
beachbuddahhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544110/19:25
hobgoblinholstein: just was looking at the logs - did TJ_ get amarok working with libxine1-ffmpeg ?19:25
holsteinhobgoblin: thats what was implied19:26
hobgoblincool19:26
holsteinyeah, go figure19:26
geekosopherbeachbuddah: guess its the libreoffice repo19:26
holsteinmaybe its included in the kubuntu-restricted-extras meta-package19:27
beachbuddah<-----sheepish - yeh19:27
beachbuddahI just HAD to be the first buddah on the block with his own19:27
geekosopherok, try this19:28
geekosopherfrom the terminal do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'19:28
hobgoblingksudo19:28
geekosopheroh yes :)19:28
hobgoblinor sudo nano ;)19:29
hobgoblinnever vi ...19:29
geekosopherhobgoblin: personally I prefer vim19:29
holsteinhehe19:29
beachbuddahok?19:29
hobgoblingeekosopher: personally I'd prefer torture ;)19:29
hobgoblinbeachbuddah: sorry :)19:30
holsteinwhy would you want gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit?19:30
beachbuddahnp :)\19:30
sebikul!gksu19:30
ubot2If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)19:30
hobgoblinholstein: it could casuse some issues - and I think about 3 years ago it actually did for me19:30
holsteinAH19:30
holsteinive never had any problems19:30
geekosopherbeachbuddah: after opening the file, add a '#' in front of the line that mentions 'deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/gericom/libreoffice/19:30
holsteinBUT i'll read that19:31
beachbuddahk19:31
geekosopherbeachbuddah: save and close the file19:31
geekosopherand try updating again19:31
hobgoblinholstein: I am fairly sure that even though I was new to the19:31
hobgoblinwhoops19:31
hobgoblinholstein: I am fairly sure that even though I was new to linux it was that caused me a problem I could not get out of at the time - so it was the third reinstall in a week ... so I use it :)19:32
holsteinhobgoblin: ;)19:32
hobgoblinactually I use sudo nano ...19:33
beachbuddahgeekosopher: thank you and now I have a new question19:37
geekosopheralways welcome beachbuddah19:37
hobgoblinthat let's the rest of us off the hook then :)19:38
beachbuddahThe update manager is working and it wants to install the latest and greatest in Linux kernels (lol @ hobgoblin)19:38
beachbuddahlast time I did that everything went haywire and I ended up reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch19:38
hobgoblindon't do it then ;)19:39
beachbuddahahhh19:39
beachbuddaheach time it wants to update?19:39
holsteini always have a couple kernels going19:40
holstein-realtime or whatever19:40
holsteinSO i usually have grub showing19:40
holsteini think that can help get into an oler kernel if something goes wrong19:40
beachbuddahI thought that was what the cool kids did, but I guess I'm not one of them anymore :(19:40
hobgoblinbeachbuddah: was it you that was looking at locvking the kernel version a while back with bodhi's help?19:41
hobgoblinbeachbuddah: I would not upgrade anything at all if it caused me issues19:41
beachbuddahyes - it;s been since then to reinstall, reconfigure and now recreate a problem19:41
beachbuddahhobgoblin:  I'd rather not so is therer a way to sort of automate the 'no kernel upgrade' selection in the update manager?19:42
hobgoblinso lock it again like it was - though it might well be a different version now so would not cause whatever it was last time19:42
beachbuddah:/19:43
beachbuddahhow often are the here Linux kernels updated anyway (very recent M$ user here)?19:43
hobgoblincan't remember off the top of my head and my net is v e r y s l o w so I'm not going to look it up I'm afraid19:44
beachbuddahokey dokey19:44
hobgoblinonce or twice I've updated kernels I think in maverick19:44
geekosopherbeachbuddah: I don't think there is a fixed schedule to kernel updates19:45
beachbuddahso its not like patch tuesday or anything19:45
hobgoblinnope19:45
hobgoblinhi Cheri70319:45
Cheri703hi19:46
holsteini used to answer the grub config file question incorretly19:46
geekosophertime for me to dream... good night all :)19:46
holsteini think its something like 'keep your locally installed verion'19:46
holsteini think thats what used to bork my system when i udpated kernels19:47
holsteinversion*19:47
beachbuddahI think it's this current update that messed me all up...I'll stick in hell with the devil I know19:48
holsteinyeah19:49
holsteinunless theres somthing you need in the new one, i wouldnt sweat it19:49
beachbuddahlol - I'm too new to know what I need19:50
holsteini used to set up vitual box installs19:51
holsteinand break them19:51
holsteinbecause you can save the state19:51
holsteinif your bored and want to try messing with kernel updates in a test environment ;)19:52
beachbuddahI may explore that yet19:52
kristian-aalborghi all19:58
kristian-aalborgI utterly borked a CF card, it seems :/19:58
kristian-aalborgI can see it on ubuntu 9.4 but nowhere else19:58
kristian-aalborgthe 9.4 is cli only, I should mention19:59
holsteinhmmm20:00
holsteinif you can see it, and mount it...20:00
holsteinyou see it when you run20:01
holsteinfdisk -l20:01
kristian-aalborghi again, holstein20:10
kristian-aalborger du fra Slesvig?20:10
kristian-aalborgone moment and I'll be where I can see it20:10
holsteinno, im in US20:11
holsteinis that what that was?20:11
kristian-aalborgI put an iso on the card, but forgot to format it first20:11
kristian-aalborgit was danish for are you from Slesvig... Schlesvig-Holstein is a part of Germany where many people speak some danish because it is close to the border20:12
holsteinthats what i was thinking :)20:13
holsteinnah, holstein is my last name20:13
holsteinSO someone in my family was from there i suppose20:13
kristian-aalborgprobably - you should see it if you get the chance, it is very nice20:13
holsteinkristian-aalborg: if its not showing up20:13
holsteinand you dont have anything important on it20:13
holsteinmaybe just try wiping it again20:13
holsteinin gparted20:13
kristian-aalborgcan't run gparted20:14
holsteinand re-formatting20:14
holsteinwell, however you partition20:14
kristian-aalborgit shows up in fdisk -l20:14
holsteinAH20:14
holsteincan you mount it?20:14
kristian-aalborgyes20:15
holsteinhmm so whats the issue?20:15
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/Qjafsyn320:16
kristian-aalborghere's fdisk -l20:16
kristian-aalborgit seems to be messed up... I can't read it from my desktop anymore20:16
kristian-aalborgit's kind of essential for me to do that :/20:16
holsteinright20:17
holsteinhave you tried any other box?20:18
holsteinor card in your desktop?20:18
holsteinwhat OS is on your desktop?20:18
kristian-aalborgmint 9 gnome20:19
holsteinput it in there20:19
holsteinand run fdisk -l20:19
kristian-aalborgI tried a bit of this and a bit of that ;)... but only 9.4 sees it20:19
holsteinwell, more acurately, only mint 9 gnome *doesnt* see it20:19
holsteinif those are the only 2 test cases20:20
kristian-aalborgnope... pclinuxOS and DSL fails too20:20
kristian-aalborgand Ubuntu 10.10 livecd would not even start, ahem ;)20:20
holsteinwell, thats another issue20:21
holsteinand supports the hardware problem im about to propose20:21
holsteinBUT20:21
holsteini would re-format it i suppose20:22
holsteintry a few more times to get a live CD to boot on something20:22
holsteinand go from there20:22
kristian-aalborgdid you see the output?20:23
holsteinyeah20:23
holstein/dev/sdb20:23
holsteinright20:23
kristian-aalborgdoes it look ok?20:23
holsteinno20:23
holsteindoesnt look like it has any partitions20:24
holsteinyou can partition it in gparted on the mint box20:24
kristian-aalborgI formatted it with mkfs.vfat -I20:24
holsteinright20:24
kristian-aalborgyes, but mint won't even see it20:24
holsteinim not too hip on the command line lingo for formatting20:24
holsteini still use gparted mostly for that20:25
kristian-aalborgit's one of the few things where I'm really helpless in CLI20:25
holsteinyou dont see it in fdisk?20:25
kristian-aalborgno - but dmesg | tail gives something20:25
holsteinthose things go bad too20:28
holsteincards20:28
kristian-aalborgwhoo!20:29
kristian-aalborgI got some kind of hole through20:29
kristian-aalborgI made a partition on it with parted... and now the card reader lights up on the desktop when it's in... still not visible in fdisk or anywhere else20:36
kristian-aalborgI'll give it a reboot, I saw somewhere that that could be a solution20:36
holsteinif its mounting20:36
holsteinand reading and writing20:36
holsteinsounds like a win20:36
kristian-aalborgit's not20:37
holstein:/20:37
kristian-aalborgwell, it is on the laptop I'd say... but not on the desktop20:37
kristian-aalborgI'd love to be able to put iso's on it, then boot it20:37
nit-witholstein: so whats your axe20:38
holsteinnit-wit: i play bass20:39
holsteinwell, i play other things, but thats whay i get paid to play20:39
nit-witholstein: do you know ben wolfe20:39
holsteinnah20:39
holsteini know a sax player up there though who works with him20:40
nit-witholstein: played with wynton marsalis20:40
holsteini met the other guy...20:40
nit-witholstein: I play fret-less bass mainly a reed player, charnet moffet20:40
holsteinand the newer guy20:41
holsteincarlos something?20:41
holsteinplays in the big band still AFAIK20:41
holsteini totally forget the other guys name20:41
nit-witholstein: always a nwew guy but both of those guys are great player ben teaches a Julliiard20:41
holsteindid a lot with eric reed20:41
nit-witholstein: cool20:42
holsteinmaybe thats where my friend teaches20:42
holsteinhes on faculty somewhere with him20:42
nit-witholstein: hard for even some of the best in the world to make a steady living20:42
holsteinhttp://joelulloff.com/20:43
holsteinOH20:43
holsteinits rodney whitaker that hes on facutly with20:44
holsteini get him and ben mixed up ;)20:44
holsteinanyways... fretless bass :)20:45
holsteincool20:45
kristian-aalborghi again20:45
holsteinyou still go out to the jams?20:45
kristian-aalborgnot really ;)20:45
nit-witholstein: rodney played with terrance so wynton makes sense20:45
holsteinthey were both on some albums too20:45
holsteinrodney and ben20:46
kristian-aalborgis nit-wit in Primus?20:46
holsteini could barely tell them apart ;)20:46
nit-witholstein: no I have taken up other studies plan to get back via a midi set up20:46
kristian-aalborgI feel like I missed something important during those few minutes...20:46
holsteinnit-wit: we got a cool community going on over at #opensourcemusicians :)20:46
holsteinif your interested20:46
nit-witkristian-aalborg: no that is a goood bass player I like flea better20:46
nit-witgood20:46
holsteinim not a big MIDI guy20:46
holsteinbut other are20:46
holsteinothers*20:47
nit-witholstein: midi sax20:47
kristian-aalborgI don't know if he's good but I'm pretty sure he uses the fretless bass a lot20:47
holsteinthere was a girl with an EWI20:47
holsteinnice one20:47
holsteinwe jammed in NINjam a couple times ;)20:47
holsteinwhen i had a server up20:48
nit-witkristian-aalborg: yes he does in a rather unusual manner brb20:48
kristian-aalborgI think I20:49
kristian-aalborgwhoops... I think I'll have to try and fix this in parted, can someone walk me through perhaps?20:49
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/x8wzyZNa - here's my new fdisk20:51
nit-witkristian-aalborg: so what is going on it is a boot problem20:55
kristian-aalborgI can't read it anywhere but in 9.0420:56
nit-witkristian-aalborg: can you post this script run in paste bin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/20:57
nit-witkristian-aalborg: 9.04 was grub-legacy I believe20:57
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: this is not boot-related, I think?20:59
nit-witkristian-aalborg: the guy from primus uses all hammer on and sliding around questionable intonation but still good20:59
nit-witkristian-aalborg: okay just trying to figure out the problem21:00
kristian-aalborgI never dug them much... my fav bass player is Dee Dee Ramone or something ;)21:00
nit-witkristian-aalborg: Dee Dee has his place in history that is for sure21:00
nit-witmay he RIP21:01
kristian-aalborghe was a bit boring on record perhaps, but check the youtube vids of him live, he really laid something into it21:02
kristian-aalborgmay the Ramones all RIP and Tommy live long21:02
kristian-aalborgI don't wish death to Marky and CJ, but they're not "real" members of that band to me21:02
nit-witkristian-aalborg: it's all music and art to me from duke ellington and before to mega death21:02
kristian-aalborgsure... but they're not all true Ramones ;)21:03
nit-witkristian-aalborg: lol21:03
nit-witkristian-aalborg: so what is going on with your computer?21:04
kristian-aalborgI may have found some kind of fix... one moment21:04
nit-witkristian-aalborg: cool21:05
kristian-aalborggparted was not as big as I assumed... great21:06
nit-witkristian-aalborg: so what are you trying to do actually21:07
kristian-aalborgI messed up a CompactFlash card21:07
nit-witkristian-aalborg: a SDHC card21:07
kristian-aalborgnone of that fancy stuff, thank you ;)21:09
nit-witkristian-aalborg: is the flash card have a partition table set whats it look like in gparted21:11
stlsaint_mobilesup sup21:14
kristian-aalborgthis is absurd... no matter what I do, only ubuntu 10.4 sees this card21:22
nit-witkristian-aalborg: there is a problem with mini cards I have found if safely removed and or rejected. I use the disc manager to unmount mine. Also when you wipe the partition you need to build a new partition table I have found to get it working21:25
nit-witkristian-aalborg: there was a code to help them work better I will look21:26
kristian-aalborgin gparted now, reading the damn card21:27
nit-witkristian-aalborg: what do you see21:29
kristian-aalborgI wiped it... then I chose new partition table21:30
kristian-aalborgthen a new ext2 which takes up the entire drive21:30
kristian-aalborg(card)21:30
nit-witkristian-aalborg: wipe the card and under device create a partition table. You are familiar with the dropdown and creating types of partitions ext2 is not much help fat32 would be for data and ext4 for a install of most open source21:33
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: I chose ext2 because it should be seen by any kind of linux21:34
nit-witkristian-aalborg: I would try a fat, the cards seems temperamental in being read it takes a bit of working with to find a working method. I have mine plugged in 16 gigs running Linuxmint10 as we speak as I type.21:36
nit-witkristian-aalborg: with my sdhc card the only way it will remount is if I unmount it with the disc manager on a running OS21:37
kristian-aalborgonce I have this card working it STAYS where it is21:38
nit-witkristian-aalborg: so it seems to be only read by lucid is this correct21:42
nit-witread=seen21:42
kristian-aalborgyes21:43
kristian-aalborgso this is weird21:44
kristian-aalborgI opened slitaz livecd to see if I could see it - I appearantly can't but the sum of the hda's I see is more than what I have21:45
feroshey hey :) Anyone that can help me here :)? Got some newbeginner issues in Ubuntu :)21:47
nit-witferos: what are the issues21:49
feros*sniff sniff* Help :D? I cant get my microphone to work,21:49
feroshave tryed a headset aswell,21:49
ferosGet sound out, but not in,21:50
nit-witferos: what is the computer model and Ubuntu distro21:50
ferosand have tryed to open "gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf" but its blank21:50
ferosUbuntu 11.04, HP Dv-721:50
ferosdv-7 3010os I belive,21:50
nit-witferos: if your a new user that is not even released yet did you have this problem with any other distros21:51
nit-witferos: there is also a #ubuntu+1 channel for natty21:51
ferosoww, then its 10.10 or something :P The latest one. Installed it today,21:51
ferostryed that, nobody answered >:21:52
ferosI bet my  cat is better than this than me XD21:52
nit-witferos: see post 7 this might help not sure. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158113121:54
ferosas said nab as this ^ ^ Trying but only get command not found so I'm doin' something very wrong :P21:57
ferosups, wrong one. Gonna try #7 now21:58
nit-witferos: it just may be muted21:59
feroshave unmuted it, but gonna try after installing alsa mixer22:00
mazzrywill someone give me a command line work around to install the c++ visual runtimes or anything in winetricks?22:01
mazzryor maybe some workaround for virtualbox since it would not run w22:02
mazzryhatever i did22:02
mazzrythankx22:04
ferosdid not work :<22:04
kristian-aalborgbbl, will open box22:05
mazzryyeah it's trying to work but it trys to abort22:05
mazzrywine: Call from 0x7b835102 to unimplemented function mscoree.dll.CorIsLatestSvc, aborting wine: Unimplemented function mscoree.dll.CorIsLatestSvc called at address 0x7b835102 (thread 0017), starting debugger... fixme:ntoskrnl:KeInitializeMutex stub: 0x5920c0, 0 wine: Call from 0x7b835102 to unimplemented function ntoskrnl.exe._allshl, aborting wine: Unimplemented function ntoskrnl.exe._allshl called at address 0x7b835102 (thre22:08
UndiFineDmazzry, which version of wine is installed ?22:09
mazzrywine 1.2.122:10
mazzryi've updated it and says it's the latest, there are so many bugs on meerkat22:11
mazzrymy menu likes to disappear22:11
mazzryi 'm not sure if it's this distro or wine that's messin up22:12
UndiFineDI have 1.322:12
ferosnit-wit: found something on youtube I'm gonna try :P22:14
sogeppwhat makes it different with #ubuntu ???22:56
udienzsogepp: this is ubuntu-beginners team channel22:58
sogeppok22:58
udienzsogepp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/23:00
udienzbut you can ask questions at here23:00
sogeppok23:01
sogeppwell, i have something with my ubuntu, it can't reboot or shutdown, and no error message either23:02
gstarx90can it logout?23:03
sogeppyup23:04
gstarx90i usually get this problem, if you want to restart, open up a terminal and type in sudo reboot23:04
sogeppit just stuck in black page when i order it to restart or shutdown23:05
sogeppgstarx90 : i did, but not working23:05
sogeppi had to use ctrl+alt+del23:06
gstarx90alright23:06
udienzot press CTRL+ALT+F1..F723:07
udienzyou got terminal23:07
sogeppok,23:07
sogeppthen...23:07
gstarx90type in sudo shutdown -r now23:08
gstarx90try that23:08
sogeppi've tried that many times, trust me,23:08
* gstarx90 was thinking of reisub23:09
sogeppi've been asking this question on some forums too, nothing works, hehe23:09
gstarx90what happens if you type in the command23:09
gstarx90'sudo reboot'23:10
sogeppit stuck on black page23:10
sogeppnothing else23:10
sogeppis there any ways to see my problem,23:11
gstarx90hm23:11
gstarx90well, i'm just here23:11
gstarx90but all i can think of is holding down alt and printscreen, and type in reisub while both keys are held down23:11
sogeppwell, i can re-installing it , but i don't think it would solve the problem in the next future23:12
sogeppand, what's that for, i mean the function ???23:12
gstarx90http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/23:12
sogeppis it means that ctrl+alt+del not save ???23:13
* gstarx90 shrugs, that's the suggestion23:14
sogeppew23:14
sogeppso we need holding alt+SysRq while typing r.e.i.s.u.b ?? right?23:15
gstarx90yes23:16
sogeppseems troublesome for me, haha23:16
gstarx90use your nose! xd23:17
gstarx90literaly23:17
gstarx90literally also23:17
sogeppwkwkwkwk, nice23:18
gstarx90it works?23:18
gstarx90awesomenesssssssss23:18
sogeppi haven't try it23:19
gstarx90ok23:19
ibuclawsogepp, I miss ctrl+alt+backspace. :~)23:41
ibuclawthen again, that's showing my age.23:41
sogepperr, what's that suppose to mean ???23:41
ibuclawwell...23:42
ibuclawin the good old days *gets pipe*23:42
ibuclawX would have it's infrequent crash of some sort.23:43
ibuclawlike... once a month, maybe less frequent, maybe more... depending on whether or not you were using stable drivers installed 8-)23:44
sogeppthen why they makes it disable23:44
ibuclawin such circumstances, all was not lost, as you could just press a magic key combination and X would restart itself, and bring you back to the login screen as if nothing happened.23:45
tenachI really do miss ctrl+alt+backspace too, ibuclaw23:45
tenach:(23:45
ibuclawX got stable, things got deprecated, confused several noisy users.23:45
sogeppand, how it's connected with my problem ??? ibuclaw23:46
ibuclawsogepp, not connected in the slightest.23:46
ibuclawI just saw REISUB with you name on it.23:46
sogeppow,  i see23:46
sogeppha ha23:46
ibuclawand then drifted off into a trip down memory lane23:47
sogeppsigh, i got fustated with my 'reboot' problem23:47
ibuclawsogepp, if you ever forget the other, just recite the paraphrase:23:48
ibuclawRaising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring23:48
sogeppwell, i can re-installing it, but won't solve the problem23:48
sogeppwkwkwk23:48
sogeppbut the problem is, my dpkg got 'interupted' message23:49
ibuclawdpkg got interrupted...23:49
ibuclawusually that's a fault on your half xD23:49
sogeppE: dpkg was interupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem.23:50
ibuclawthat message should also tell you to run 'dpkg-configure -a'23:50
sogeppi did23:50
sogeppsee the result http://pastebin.com/LZvZg2Ea23:50
sogeppand that's ain't solve my problem23:51
sogeppcan someone show me how to learn linux system ???23:51
sogeppi need to know how it works, and maybe solve my own problem23:52
sogeppbrb...23:52
ibuclawhttp://forums.zend.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8155#p2757523:52
ibuclaw*pew*pew*pew*23:53
ibuclawbad package maintainers should learn to package software correctly :~)23:53
sogeppthanks, i'll check on it , ibuclaw23:59

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