[00:15] hello, anybody here? [00:15] for a moment yes [00:15] Lupditerra: how can we help you [00:16] head_victim [00:16] my Unity desktop interface just stoped working [00:16] :/ [00:16] haha [00:16] What version of Ubuntu? [00:16] Maverick [00:16] Netbook Remix [00:17] head_victim, hope you have experience with unity, I have none [00:17] bioterror: I was just about to suggest the same. [00:17] Lupditerra: what sort of symptoms are you having? [00:17] None :p [00:17] It was working fine. [00:17] then it just stoped working, no errors, no nothing [00:17] So you can't boot into it, or you can't open windows in it or? [00:17] I have it as my default environment [00:18] it doesnt load [00:18] I'm on the normal desktop now [00:18] Did you have any updates before you rebooted the last time? [00:18] plenty [00:18] do you think it might be because of Compiz? [00:18] Anything is possible :) [00:18] lol [00:19] I just wanted to get an idea so I can start looking around for a solution [00:19] Some one suggested to delete it and reinstall it... haven't done that [00:19] should I start there? [00:21] As long as you're talking about one application not the whole system that would be a reasonable start. [00:21] o.O [00:21] hey folks, I need to harness the group mind here, I'm standing in MicroCenter, trying to figure out if a printer can work in ubuntu [00:22] wait I just try to run it from the terminal [00:22] let me see what it says [00:22] I'm searching, but not finding anything concrete. I don't really want to buy it and get it home and have it not work :( [00:22] Cheri703: model? [00:22] there's another option that SHOULD work in ubuntu, but I like the features on the other better [00:22] canon pixma mg5220 [00:22] any hp will work [00:22] I am anti hp [00:23] Cheri703: apparently http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100301702.html has a driver that works [00:23] full support? I'm tethered with my phone, so it's slow loading [00:23] damn, a lot of errors now :/ [00:24] and woo! if so :) [00:24] Lupditerra: can you pastebin them? [00:24] Cheri703: why anti HP? I love my 4250 and 2610. Both networked, both just work. [00:24] yeah [00:24] let it finnish [00:25] Lupditerra: sure :) [00:25] I hate the games they play with the ink expiration dates, and every hp I've had has had issues [00:26] head_victim: if that's an official canon driver, it should support all features, yes? [00:26] Cheri703: link came from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588333 [00:26] ok, awesome, thanks :) [00:27] Cheri703: no worries [00:27] can I note that I'm annoyed at the fact that I googled several times and that thread didn't come up :( [00:27] ok, here it is http://pastebin.com/qLWm9Grv [00:28] Hah that's what they said on the forum. It's possible I have an upper hand being in .au myself where th elink is (apparently the other canon sites only have .rpm so not sure why we are special with a .deb but as long as it works) [00:28] ah, nice. the canon usa didn't have ANY linux [00:29] europe had linux listed, but no drivers, usa didn't even have it as an option [00:30] Cheri703: well it's not regularly we are class leading down here but nice to see we got one thing right (crosses fingers it actually works now) [00:31] :) yeah, I'm getting it from a place with awesome return policies, just in case ;) [00:31] headed to checkout now, I'll be back online in a bit (headed to a coffee shop after this) thanks head_victim !!! [00:32] Hello, everyone. I'm not so sure how this IRC works, but I'd really like some help with some GRUB issues I'm having. Anyone? [00:32] !ask | CharlesIngalls [00:32] CharlesIngalls: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:32] Problem is I actually don't have any GRUB menu since I installed 10.10 [00:33] CharlesIngalls: does it still boot and it's just hidden or it just doesn't work? [00:33] Lupditerra: googling madly now [00:33] head_victim: thanks man, I hope you're luckier than I was :/ [00:33] It's a dual boot but there's no GRUB. It immediately starts in Ubuntu. [00:34] Lupditerra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589023 is that similar to what you're experiencing? [00:34] CharlesIngalls: ah ok [00:35] head_victim: let me check [00:35] CharlesIngalls: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager you might find it's just auto booting to ubuntu instead of giving you options [00:36] I must admit since grub2 kicked off that gui start up manager has been great for me [00:37] hi people [00:37] i have a question [00:37] asterismo: shoot [00:38] i cant export a drawing that i made under XaraLX to SVG for editing with Inkscape [00:38] I'll try and install startupmanager, then. Thanks a bunch for the tip, head_victim. [00:38] is there anyway to save this drawing or exporting to something else? [00:39] it took me like hours to make it [00:39] asterismo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352721 [00:39] Looks like you might want to save as EPS then open that in inkscape? [00:39] thanks so much head_victim [00:40] asterismo: I just hope it helps :) [00:41] head_victim: this guy just told me that Unity is not ment to run in Linux, but Maverick Netbook Remix comes with it as a default [00:41] Lupditerra: which guy? Unity has been in the netbook for some time and is going to be a part of the desktop shortly [00:42] I know! [00:42] o.O [00:42] Sounds odd to me [00:43] So did that link look like what you're experiencing? [00:43] nop [00:43] but I'm reading on to see if I need to unistall Compiz [00:44] Lupditerra: apparently the current Unity does not use compiz from what I'm reading. They are moving towards it but not until Natty [00:44] cause I think is something messing with GTK [00:44] Uninstallin atm [00:44] I'm sorry I'm not more precise but I've not ever used Unity to date. I would suggest removing/disabling compiz though to see if that works [00:45] Heh beat me to it [00:45] lol :p [00:46] entry has no children [00:46] o.O [00:46] Neither do I :) [00:47] I'll just reinstall the whole thing at lest see what happens o.O [00:50] sup [01:24] hi someone knows bluetooth configuration [01:26] That wasn't a question... [01:57] hi [01:57] again [01:57] hi asterismo [01:58] i couldn't do it [01:58] export .xar vector draw of XaraLX in other readable format for inkscape [01:59] does anyone know how to convert .xar files in .svg, .ai or something? [01:59] i just can't believe i'll loose all the work i've done in this software [02:01] any designer here? [02:03] is there any designer channel where may i post this problem? === tenach_ is now known as tenach [02:05] sorry for delay asterismo [02:05] i'm so desperate [02:05] i go look for help for you brb [02:06] this is the only post i found http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?31785-from-XaraLX-to-SVG...-a-round-about-way [02:06] workaround, but i think this is not what i want [02:06] because it prints the draw in PS format [02:09] i looking for the right person for you asterismo [02:15] hello asterismo [02:16] great asterismo meet duanedesign [02:16] duanedesign, dos graphic design [02:17] he shall respons duanedesign he already waited a time when i have see that he was here [02:17] asterismo: Xara LX is supposed to have some utility that will export to svg. However it does flatten, or remove the layers [02:24] hi duanedesign, sorry, bathroom [02:25] i made a drawing in XaraLX and now i want to save it or export it to SVG or some other readable format for inkscape [02:25] but i export it but inkscape shows empty page [02:25] the same for .ai and .eps [02:25] XaraLX crash for .eps exporting [02:26] .svg and .ai are empty files [02:26] thanks hajour [02:29] asterismo: other then making sure all your layers are visible, I am not sure what it could be [02:30] your welcome asterismo [02:42] duanedesign, is there a place where he can ask else if it not succeed? [02:43] i just don't know what the heck is wrong [02:43] i have the drawing [02:43] just 1 layer [02:43] file > export > svg it asks 1.1 or 1.2 version [02:43] nothing saved [02:43] asterismo, say the name in the line [02:44] sorry, duanedesign [02:44] we are often switch true 3 or 5 channels [02:44] ore more [02:44] :\ [02:45] the only place i can think is maybe the inkscape forum, or if they have an irc channel [02:46] asterismo, try #inkscape it has 75 peeps there [02:48] nobody talks to me [02:49] nevermind [02:49] aww [02:52] #inkscape is a design channel? [02:52] for ubuntu? [02:52] hajour, no [02:53] mm ok i was just wondering [02:54] asterismo, I think they will never answer :| [02:54] asterismo, look at http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2228 [02:55] don't know what the IRC is for anyway [02:55] the IRC channel, people usually gets into channels to talk [02:57] maybe they are not there on the moment and let there chat open.for to look back later [04:14] yay I'm not banned. [04:14] head_victim: maybe you can help me some more :) [04:15] I'm trying to install this printer driver that you oh so helpfully directed me to, and I'm getting a "error package management system cannot be identified" [04:17] (or anyone actually) [04:17] I know absolutely nothing about this, but what kind of printer? [04:18] canon pixma mg5220 [04:18] getting an error when I run the install script [04:19] have you read this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475336 [04:19] what's the erro? [04:19] error, also [04:19] An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified [04:19] yeah [04:21] hm [04:21] you'll need to edit something from the script [04:25] brb [04:26] yeah [04:27] from the script, add a # from every lineexcept C_system="deb" [04:28] ok [04:28] EVERY line? [04:28] or from the top down? [04:31] every line except C_system="deb" [04:31] it wouldn't matter what order :p [04:31] ok [04:32] Putting a # in front of a line makes the code ignore the line completely. It's the same as deleting the line without actually deleting it. A dangerous thing to do with code you don't understand :) [04:33] The code will read the line as a 'comment', and skip the entire line. [04:33] ok, found it [04:34] wasn't in the right part of it [04:34] rawr, did it again, will recheck [04:34] now I got "An error occurred. A necessary package could not be found in the proper location." [04:35] Well at least you have a different error. That's progress :) [04:35] I don't know where to look in the script to see where it's looking for the files [04:40] Wish I could help more. My HP just worked right when I plugged it in. [04:40] My scanner, on the other hand, is most definitely not supported and there is no way to make it work on Linux. So I had to throw it away. [04:40] np, I appreciate the input thus far! [04:41] my hp was dumb, it basically crapped out, so I got this one :) [04:42] Ah. [04:46] Cheri703: works for me [04:46] :( [04:47] I just downloaded the package, unpacked it and then went to the cli and just typed in /path/to/extracted/file/install.sh and it worked [04:47] :( [04:47] will try again [04:48] Got up to "register the printer" but I don't have one so it wont wokr [04:48] You are using the install script right? [04:49] yes, and just unzipped again and got the "necessary package could not be found" [04:49] error [04:50] :( [04:53] head_victim: what is the path that yours unzipped to? [04:53] How do I check my conky version? [04:53] Cheri703: ok I downloaded it to my deskop, I opened it with fileroller and hit "extract" and left it as default [04:54] This then put another folder on the desktop with the long name [04:54] MrAnthrope, in synaptic [04:54] :/ that's what I did, except extracted to home folder, so /home/user/cniblahblah [04:54] Inside that I just double clicked the install.sh [04:54] MrAnthrope, or do you mean what you see on the desktop [04:54] Hit "run in terminal" [04:55] terminal popped up and then disappeared :/ [04:55] if I manually run from terminal, I get the error [04:55] Well I don't see anything on the desktop. And I can't find the .conky file in my home folder. But it's in synaptic. conky-all 1.8.0-1ubuntu1 [04:55] Cheri703: normal Ubuntu 10.04 here not sure if that makes a difference [04:56] well, I'm now back to the original error, can't identify package management system :( [04:56] same here head_victim [04:56] Does it ask you for your password? [04:56] MrAnthrope, it is in file move the .conkyrc folder to home it will be hidden or download one run conky in terminal to start it [04:56] nope [04:57] did it with sudo, got the little header part, then the same error [04:57] MrAnthrope, very customizable [04:57] Download again? [04:57] was just about to say that :) [04:58] MrAnthrope, file/etc/conky [04:58] Nothing happens. http://pastebin.com/AhRRZfaL [04:58] ooooh. ok. [04:59] redownloaded, extracted to different location, same error >.< [04:59] going to restart and try again [04:59] back in a bit [05:01] MrAnthrope, move the .conkyrc from file/etc/conky to home then run conky in terminal. here is waht my terminal looks like.http://pastebin.com/YJuL88M9 [05:01] what [05:01] Hrm the only hidden folder in /etc is .java. [05:01] I have a conky folder but it's just got to .conf files in it. [05:01] s/to/two [05:03] MrAnthrope, it is not hidden in etc it is a regular file called conky with .conkrc inside [05:04] Yeah my conky folder just has conky.conf and conky_no_x11.conf [05:05] No hidden files. [05:05] MrAnthrope, the stock setup would probably not what you wanted anyway there area ton of customized conky downloads on the web just put one in home I will paste bin mine to start with if you like [05:05] I'd like that :) [05:05] hold on [05:08] MrAnthrope, here is mine just put in a gedit name it .conyrc it will show in the top right corner of the screen probably. http://pastebin.com/cZxgcR7R [05:09] MrAnthrope, put it home of course and run the command in the terminal, you can also make a autostartup for it [05:09] time fror cig brb [05:12] 'lo starcraft , good to see you [05:12] tronyx, how goes ? [05:13] Hola bodhizazen [05:13] 'lo Mohan_chml [05:13] so the script still won't run, but I manually installed the packages...I have some functionality, but not as much as I'd expect from a manufacturer's driver :/ not sure if that's all there is, or if I'm missing something still [05:13] bodhizazen, edited the readme file? [05:13] yes Mohan_chml [05:13] (: [05:13] Conky: invalid configuration file '/home/geo/.conkyrc' [05:13] Mohan_chml, I changed my server over [05:14] have you seen the new site ? [05:14] nope [05:14] Cheri703: I was going to suggest double clicking the .debs next [05:14] http://bodhizazen.net/ [05:14] MrAnthrope, is it in a gedit? [05:14] The page looks awesome bodhizazen =] [05:15] it is only offering me a max resolution of 600dpi, when the thing is supposed to do MUCH MORE than that... :/ will be really frustrating if I'm crippled with it in ubuntu :( other than this, it's pretty darn awesome [05:15] TY Mohan_chml [05:15] Cheri703, what are you trying to configure ? [05:15] a canon printer [05:15] pixma mg5220 [05:15] yup. There's more to the error I will pastebin it. http://pastebin.com/T6chHv9Z [05:15] bodhizazen, thats ah beautiful site [05:16] head_victim: maybe it likes yours because it's australian? [05:16] Cheri703: haha possible I guess. We are a bit exclusive down here ;) [05:16] MrAnthrope, is it in a gedit and do you know what gedit is [05:16] thanks nit-wit , I re-wrote the css, matched the wordpress (blog) theme, took a bit of effort [05:17] Cheri703: see if printing from a program will allow higher res, it might only like defaults up to 600 [05:17] lol yes it's in gedit. [05:17] does it need to be named .txt? [05:17] bodhizazen, nice minimalist theme Buddha [05:17] I printed from glabels, and it didn't even have a quality option :( [05:18] bodhizazen, you aligned it to the center? coz I can see some space at the bottom. use some of your drawings to fill it =] [05:19] Cheri703: sorry I'm out of ideas :/ [05:19] MrAnthrope, trying to figure it out [05:20] :( ok, I appreciate your help though! [05:20] Cheri703: I have to head off to work again but maybe if you add some comments to that forum post if it's not too old and see if anyone else has had better luck [05:20] I may do that, thanks :) [05:20] nit-wit: typo :) [05:21] MrAnthrope, so from paste bin it brings all the line numbers and makes it double spaced [05:21] MrAnthrope, should be no space numbers and singlr spaced, double space may be okay not sure [05:21] single [05:21] No error anymore. Still not opening a window though. [05:22] http://pastebin.com/38dy1k2V [05:24] MrAnthrope, try this cleaner scripts you have to find what works and do some intuitive editing just keep a backup befor you edit. Tons of conky scripts on line a a thread with thosands and scrips on the Ubuntu Forums. [05:24] bodhizazen: on the first page of your website, in 'nirvana' section, you start with

MrAnthrope, http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html [05:24] Alright, thanks :) [05:25] MrAnthrope, it takes a little learning curve not much though hey i figured it out anyone can.;) [05:26] lol [05:30] Hmm this says something about nautilus requiring conky to be in its own window. [05:31] geekosopher, thanks, fixed that [05:31] MrAnthrope, open the menu-admin-system monitor and look for any other conky running [05:32] bodhizazen: np :) [05:32] MrAnthrope, if any are kill them [05:32] Mohan_chml, space where exactly ? [05:32] Oh it's working! yay! [05:33] bodhizazen, scroll down and you can see some space at the bottom =] [05:33] idk whether its usual or not. but felt that there is some space [05:34] MrAnthrope, tipeee [05:34] yipeee [05:34] MrAnthrope, conky used to mess with the desktop but works great now with little use of the system generally [05:34] Until I click on the desktop then it goes away and I have to kill it. [05:35] MrAnthrope, what desktop ubuntu [05:36] mmmm gnome? [05:37] MrAnthrope, should work in just gnome what is the actual install, did you remove or change the desktop [05:37] MrAnthrope, what version as well what distro? [05:38] hai nit-wit [05:38] hajour, hows it going [05:38] can i talk to you so in offtopic? [05:38] hajour, sure [05:38] ok :) i waith there [05:39] Just Ubuntu 10.04 [05:39] It's a fairly new install. [05:39] hajour, I have a dialogue window open [05:40] a ok thanks [05:41] MrAnthrope, it is Ubuntu then conky should work, maybe it just needs to be purged and reinstalled. If there was no .conkrc to begin with that is starnge [05:42] Yeah I'm using different scripts and it's the same window for every script. So it's not reading the scripts I'm putting in there. [05:45] MrAnthrope, hit crtl-h for the hidden and look for any thing conky in home. The only thing there should be what you put there. [05:45] Yup. [05:48] All well. I'll figure it out later. It's semi-working now. [05:48] thanks for all the help :) [05:49] Mohan_chml, you mean, if you scroll the content ? [05:49] space below content ? [05:57] back [05:57] bodhizazen, I thought you were off and so I sent you a memo :P [05:57] broke X there for a min =) [05:57] I think you broke it :P [05:58] thank you for the screen shot [05:58] (: [06:33] hajour, I lost my connection [06:35] hajour, back again with the correct name [06:35] correct now I think [06:36] uch to late [06:46] head_victim: I did end up posting to that thread about the mg5200 series, but I downloaded turboprint and used that driver, MUCH MUCH more functionality :) [06:51] Cheri703: just glad it works :)\ [06:51] me too! and I installed the windows version in my vm, so I have ALL KINDS of options available. I appreciate your help! [06:52] Cheri703: it's nice to hear when things work out. [06:53] :) [06:53] I'm off to bed, have a good night/day/whatever it is where you are. :) [08:16] Mohan_chml, hi [08:16] :) [08:17] Hello shahan [08:17] Mohan_chml, how r u Mohan_chml [08:17] he he. use my name one in a line :P -team please =] [08:19] night all =) [08:19] Night Boss [09:06] How can I obtain a list of users or computers connected to my ubuntu samba shares? [09:07] smbstatus [09:16] If you do an upgrade to a package that some services being run depend on, will the upgrade also restart those services? [09:37] can anyone please tell me how to get two audio outputs (headphone and speakers) both at the same time? [11:01] Hello. [11:43] hello Silver_Fox_ [11:43] Hello duanedesign . [11:51] What's up, people? [11:56] hello zeroseven0183 [11:57] Hello zeroseven0183 [11:58] How is duanedesign ? [12:01] Silver_Fox_, someone is looking for you in the Community Cafe http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10231643&postcount=3370 [12:01] :-) [12:04] *sigh ninjad [12:07] Ooopppsss. kernel update. Gotta restart [12:09] Hmmm... new kernel version did not appear in GRUB. Anybody encountered that? [12:09] * Mohan_chml is still in Lucid [12:10] and no updates for 3 days recently [12:10] zeroseven0183, tries os-prober and update-grub? [12:10] tried* [12:12] I'm sure Update Manager did the update-grub for me. [12:13] try os-prober and then update-grub again. Just give a try =] [12:14] Still didn't see the new version [12:14] It's suppose to scroll during the update-grub [12:14] I mean, it's suppose to appear in the terminal during the update-grub [12:16] 2.6.35-24 is _not_ the latest, right? [12:16] Silver_Fox_: i am doing good. === szczur_ is now known as szczur [14:15] hello guys [14:15] anyone kno how ican lanch up nitrogen ?? i tried nitrogen --restore but it doesnt work [14:20] People, does anyone here having version conflicts when you type lsb_release -a and open the About Ubuntu window in System menu? [14:20] I'm using 10.10 but my About Ubuntu window tells that it's already 11.04 Natty. [14:21] I filed a bug report in case someone encounters this. Just hit the "This bug affects you" link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/690654 Thanks [14:21] Launchpad bug 690654 in yelp (Ubuntu) "About Ubuntu Window Shows Different Version (11.04) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [14:44] anyone using nitrogen guys ?? [15:56] If you do an upgrade to a package that some services being run depend on, will the upgrade also restart those services? [16:09] raubvogel: usually yes [16:10] IdleOne, First example I can think of is openssl as the package being upgraded. Would mail (if it does tls) [16:10] and even openssh be restarted? If not, how would they start using the new ssl libraries? [16:11] raubvogel: if they don't restart then the continue using the existing libs and on reboot or manual restart of the service they will use the new lib [16:11] IdleOne, but there is no guarantee they will be restarted once openssl is upgraded. [16:12] raubvogel: well, things can go wrong and the upgrade can break but chances are slim. I assume the new libs are tested to make sure they work [16:15] raubvogel: also have to consider the version of Ubuntu. IF your running 10.04 LTS I would not expect much breakage. [16:16] honestly, I rarely have any issues with any version of Ubuntu [16:19] hi ppl [16:19]