[01:37] <psusi> what package is responsible for playing the login sound?
[03:09] <fmaker> Think I found a bug in a library header file. How do I file it? The gui tool like targeted towards apps and tried "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsoci-core-gcc-dev/+filebug?no-redirect", but nothing there...
[03:20] <hggdh> fmaker: please use ubuntu-bug for it (command-line client)
[03:28] <fmaker> hggdh: ubuntu-bug launches a gtk gui
[03:29] <hggdh> if you pass no other option, yes
[03:30] <hggdh> fmaker: use 'ubuntu-bug -f --package=<whatever package has the header file>', ubuntu-bug --help for details
[03:30] <fmaker> hggdh: ah, thanks
[03:31] <hggdh> fmaker: welcome
[06:03] <mmcthrow> Hello.  I have a question related to enabling core dumps on Ubuntu.
[06:03] <mmcthrow> I already set the limits in /etc/security/limits.conf
[06:04] <mmcthrow> I also have apport up and running, too.
[06:04] <mmcthrow> However, when I run a program that does a segfault and dumps core, I cannot find the core dump anywhere.
[06:05] <micahg> mmcthrow: there should be a .crash file in /var/crash
[06:08] <mmcthrow> micahg: /var/crash is empty, unfortunately.
[06:08] <micahg> mmcthrow: which program?
[06:09] <mmcthrow> I'm actually debugging a program that I'm writing.
[06:09] <mmcthrow> I asked the question on #ubuntu, but I was referred here.
[06:11] <micahg> mmcthrow: apport is only for packages in the archive
[06:11] <mmcthrow> I see.
[06:11] <micahg> you should try #ubuntu-app-devel for help writing/debugging
[06:11] <mmcthrow> Thank you.
[13:40] <bullgard> I have an error in NetworkManager Applet. I found the (almost) same bug in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644990.  Should I report my bug to Launchpad or immediately to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644990?
[13:40] <ubot2> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 644990 in NetworkManager "On Notebook: Resume problems with NetworkManager an NM-Applet" [Medium,Closed: duplicate]
[13:41] <charlie-tca> Is the bug in Ubuntu or redhat?
[13:41] <bullgard> charlie-tca: The bug is in Lucid.
[13:42] <charlie-tca> Then you should report it launchpad so we get it fixed for Ubuntu. Add the redhat bug in a comment
[13:42] <bullgard> charlie-tca: Thank you for your information and help.
[13:42] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[13:57] <bullgard> '~$ ubuntu-bug network-manager-gnome' obtains: "Network problem. Cannot connect to crash database, please check your Internet conection. HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway." But '~$ ping www.belug.de; 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 50007 ms." How to proceed?
[13:58] <bullgard> '~$ ubuntu-bug network-manager-gnome' obtains: "Network problem. Cannot connect to crash database, please check your Internet conection. HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway." But '~$ ping www.belug.de; 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5007 ms." How to proceed?
[13:58] <cpatrick08> my about ubuntu says 11.04 in 10.10 i installed it in a dualboot yesterday with the disk i got from shipit here is my about ubuntu http://tinypic.com/r/o6znup/7
[13:59] <cpatrick08> here is my software sources.list http://tinypic.com/r/30rqqfm/7
[14:02] <charlie-tca> cpatrick08: how about trying pastebin for that. I don't get any text on your paste
[14:02] <charlie-tca> !paste
[14:02] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[14:02] <charlie-tca> bullgard: maybe try again in a bit.
[14:04] <cpatrick08> my about ubuntu http://imagebin.org/128014
[14:04] <cpatrick08> and here is my sources.list http://imagebin.org/128015
[14:05] <bullgard> charlie-tca: My 2nd try was unsuccessful too.
[14:05] <charlie-tca> bullgard: if it is a bad gateway, it might take some time to clear up
[14:07] <charlie-tca> cpatrick08: I suggest filing a bug against the documentation for 10.10
[14:07] <charlie-tca> ubuntu-bug ubuntu-docs
[14:07] <charlie-tca> and include the imagebin pastes
[14:09] <charlie-tca> bullgard: you can try filing using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs/#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net
[14:09] <charlie-tca> but will need to add the attachments manually then
[14:11] <cpatrick08> ok thanks
[14:21] <zeroseven0183> Can someone confirm this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/690654 Thanks.
[14:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 690654 in yelp (Ubuntu) "About Ubuntu Window Shows Different Version (11.04) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:29] <gamerpro2000> Hey guys, I have a bug report that I filed over a month ago and I haven't saw any updates from a dev.  Anyone know why?
[14:29] <gamerpro2000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/674112
[14:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 674112 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "XOrg Segmentation Fault with XServer when running MultiSeatX (affects: 1) (heat: 99)" [Undecided,New]
[14:30] <gamerpro2000> Awesome.  I'm glad this channel is so active and I'm not talking to the air.
[14:31] <charlie-tca> gamerpro2000: or no one knows what to tell you except that the devs are not sitting around waiting for bugs so they have work to do,.
[14:32] <gamerpro2000> charlie-tca: I understand, and I apologize for the sarcasm, but even a "nothing has been done with it yet" response to me is better than silence.  Thanks for responding
[14:32] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[14:34] <zeroseven0183> gamerpro2000: you can post this bug report in Twitter, or in Identi.ca if that would help. :-)
[14:34] <gamerpro2000> Its just really frustrating dealing with a bug for over a month :( .  I feel like I don't have much hair left.
[14:34] <zeroseven0183> Patience... my dear friend.
[14:35] <charlie-tca> We can always use more help getting the bugs triaged
[14:35] <zeroseven0183> Yeah
[14:35] <gamerpro2000> Well, I've sorta triaged it, as you can see from my last comment on the bug
[14:36] <gamerpro2000> but, unfortunately, sometimes when users log out, the segmentation fault happens as well, and with a multiseatx environment, when one screen dies, you have to reboot the whole machine and log out the other three users to get the one screen back.
[14:36] <zeroseven0183> How about other bugs? You might see something related that would be helpful in solving that problem
[14:37] <vish> gamerpro2000: there is also #ubuntu-x , a better place for X server bugs.. however, their workload is very very high and response time there can be considerably longer ;)
[14:37] <vish> ooh! that should be a factoid!
[14:38] <gamerpro2000> vish: Yeah, but the interesting thing is that the seg fault didn't happen until I switched from fglrx to radeon
[14:38] <gamerpro2000> I would switch back, but fglrx had a LOT more problems than this one.
[14:38] <gamerpro2000> So, its like picking the less buggy of the two
[14:39] <vish> haha! isnt that the way always.. :D
[14:39] <gamerpro2000> vish: Pretty much ;)
[14:39] <hggdh> pedro_: I am trying ubuntu-bug now...
[14:40] <gamerpro2000> This is the last bug I have left.  If I can get this seg fault thing to go away, these machines will be working flawlessly.
[14:40] <vish> pedro_ , hggdh: there are 20 pending students in the old mentor team.. what shall we do with those applications?
[14:40] <vish> pedro_,  hggdh hi, btw.. :)
[14:41] <pedro_> hggdh, i finally managed to file the bug but it took like ~25 minutes
[14:41] <pedro_> hggdh, i was stuck on the lp page
[14:41] <pedro_> hello vish, how are you?
[14:41] <vish> pedro_: doing good, thanks.. :)
[14:41] <pedro_> vish, 20? wow, looking at the queue now
[14:42] <vish> pedro_: yea, and the alpha mentor team has only 4 mentors.. so either we change the ratio and add more mentors.. or the workload just gets higher for existing ones....
[14:43] <pedro_> vish, let's add some to the team A, but let me review the queue first to see if they fit the requirements
[14:43] <vish> cool, thanks..
[14:46] <vish> we can rename the team to mentoring *School* … :D
[14:46] <devildante> vish: bug school is better :p
[14:47] <vish> lol!
[14:47] <pedro_> i like that ;-)
[14:47] <pedro_> vish, done, declined 4
[14:48] <hggdh> pedro_: yeah, I am stuck on the LP page also
[14:48] <pedro_> vish, so room A of our school has only 2 students, shall we add some 5 of the more recent folks that applied for mentorship?
[14:49] <vish> sure..
[14:49] <pedro_> or let's say 2 per mentor, so 6
[14:49] <pedro_> i can take a couple of students as well, since i don't have any at the moment
[14:49] <pedro_> and perhaps devildante can help us too ? ;-)
[14:50] <pedro_> devildante, are you mentoring someone?
[14:50] <vish> pedro_: why dont you join that team as well? than taking students personally?
[14:50] <vish> and devildante …
[14:50] <pedro_> that sounds fine too
[14:50] <devildante> pedro_: yeah, but we're both busy at the moment, so no active mentoring atm
[14:51] <vish> devildante: so you've heard about this new team right? where it is not one on one?
[14:51] <devildante> vish: yeah, from what I understood, it's groups constitued of mentors and studends, right?
[14:51] <devildante> students*
[14:51] <vish> devildante: yea.. so the students just ask the mentor team the questions..
[14:52] <vish> instead of the single mentor.
[14:52] <devildante> sounds like neat :)
[14:52] <pedro_> do we have an stock response for when adding folks to the room A ?
[14:52] <bullgard> charlie-tca: I succeeded in the mean time by simply repeating. Bug #690667
[14:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 690667 in fedora (and 1 other project) "[Lucid] NetworkManagerApplet 0.8 after restart forgets that »Enable Networking« had been asserted. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690667
[14:53] <vish> pedro_: so this was the one, i used » https://lists.launchpad.net/bugsquad-mentorship-group-alpha/msg00002.html
[14:53] <vish> pedro_: its a modification of hggdh's initial mail to ojap
[14:53] <pedro_> vish, ok i'll add to the stock responses so it'd be easier to find
[14:53] <vish> yea, cool..
[14:54] <vish> devildante: so, your students are now inactive, right? shall we move them to this team?
[14:54] <vish> devildante: along with you ofcourse ;)
[14:54] <devildante> vish: only one student
[14:54] <pedro_> if they're inactive, why move them?
[14:54] <devildante> vish: but yeah
[14:54] <pedro_> i'd prefer to have active members
[14:55] <vish> pedro_: hmm.. yea.. that sounds fine too.. we'll add devildante alone now, but what about his student?
[14:55]  * vish adds pedro_ first.. ;)
[14:56]  * pedro_ runs
[14:57]  * devildante catches pedro_
[14:59] <charlie-tca> vish: holiday present - I can go active again
[14:59] <pedro_> ok , i'm subscribed to the list
[14:59] <vish> \o/
[14:59] <pedro_> i'll be adding some new students and sending welcome emails to it
[15:00] <vish> pedro_: are you able to add to the team? looks like in a restricted team you cant …
[15:00] <vish> sense is the owner, and he needs to make your account admin, i cant right now..
[15:00] <pedro_> aaah right i need to be an admin
[15:01] <pedro_> well, at least i can collect the data from the new students for future addition
[15:01] <vish> pedro_: and we have charlie-tca too! :)  so just give me the lp links of the people you've shortlisted and i can add them now..
[15:01] <devildante> vish: and you just added me, thanks :)
[15:02] <vish> devildante: np.. for helping.. :)
[15:02] <vish> err!
[15:02] <vish> that was actually "np.. *Thanks* for helping.."
[15:02] <vish> multitasking fail!
[15:03] <devildante> lol
[15:03] <devildante> :)
[15:03] <pedro_> vish, ah the list is at https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship/+members
[15:03] <pedro_> vish, just sort by "applied for membership"
[15:04] <pedro_> i think we can add until Michael Gilchrist
[15:05] <vish> neat!
[15:05] <devildante> pedro_: isn't edge.launchpad deprecated, btw?
[15:06] <pedro_> is it?
[15:06] <devildante> I think so
[15:06] <devildante> lemme find a blog post
[15:06] <Pici> Yes. It is.
[15:06] <devildante> pedro_: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/edge-is-deprecated
[15:06] <vish> whaaa!
[15:07] <vish> i was still using edge today morning..
[15:10] <charlie-tca> edge complained to me a while ago about it being moved
[15:12] <devildante> for me, it didn't even complain, it just redirects me to launchpad.net
[15:12] <devildante> ...or not, it doesn't :p
[15:13] <devildante> weird
[15:16] <vish> yea, it doesnt redirect for me either..
[15:16] <cdbs> not for me as well
[15:16] <cdbs> since I don't think that redirect is in place yet
[15:20] <hggdh> gah
[15:21] <hggdh> cannot run Unity anymore, and got mesself some kernel OOPSes
[15:21] <vish> pedro_: hmm, should we have 14 or 10 mentees?
[15:21] <vish> there are 7 mentors..
[15:27]  * vish tickles hggdh ;)
[15:28] <hggdh> vish: let's add the 14
[15:28] <hggdh> and see what happens
[15:28] <vish> hggdh: oh! thanks.. will do..  but the tickle was more about the Kernel OOPSes.. ;)
[15:29] <hggdh> vish: oh. Yeah, the joys of living in the bleeding edge ;-)
[15:29] <vish> :)
[15:31] <pedro_> vish, yeah let's say 2 for each mentor we add
[15:32] <vish> School starts TODAY!! :p
[15:33] <devildante> vish: but I don't want to go to school :(
[15:33] <pedro_> Rock and Roll High School?
[15:33] <devildante> lol
[15:33] <vish> devildante: here, *you* give the assignments. ;)
[15:34] <devildante> vish: great! students will have some math and physics, I guess: p
[15:34] <devildante> :p
[15:34] <charlie-tca> hm, I thought the object of having the team was to have more mentees able to be assigned
[15:36] <hggdh> charlie-tca: yes. But I, at least, did not act timely
[15:37]  * charlie-tca resembles that too
[16:02] <ElPasmo> Hi all, School starts today? :P Yesterday I applied for a mentor, does it means I will begin right now? :PPP
[16:05] <vish> ElPasmo: you might have applied late for this semester, admissions comity will wait n decide .. ;p
[16:05] <ElPasmo> ohhhhhhh :D
[16:25] <devildante> got my first timeout on lp in months! it's progressing :p
[16:34] <charlie-tca> How lucky can you get? :-)
[16:34] <JFo> I get them daily
[16:35] <JFo> so I am apparently not lucky
[16:35] <JFo> that and I abuse LP quite a bit :-D
[16:35] <devildante> lol
[16:35] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I get them daily too
[16:35] <davmor2> JFo: how many times do we need to tell you LP hates you!
[16:35] <charlie-tca> apparently devildante doesn't abuse it enough? ;-)
[16:35] <JFo> you don't I know :)
[16:36] <JFo> davmor2, I have a tattoo that says it :-P
[16:36] <devildante> charlie-tca: not much, I'm afraid
[16:36] <devildante> charlie-tca:
[16:36] <charlie-tca> I got one system is taking minutes to get the page, the other just gives me a fault
[16:36] <devildante> oops, just forget that :p
[16:36] <davmor2> JFo: underneath does it say "Hate it back, works for me"?
[16:36] <JFo> indeed :)
[16:37] <JFo> charlie-tca, I find that it also depends on who I am logged in as
[16:37] <JFo> since I have the kernel-janitor also
[16:37] <charlie-tca> mine don't care who I am
[16:37] <charlie-tca> Oh, I only use one login, I guess :-)
[16:39] <JFo> heh
[16:40]  * davmor2 only uses one login, except when the voices tell me to use another.........
[16:42]  * charlie-tca quit listening to the voices. They were wrong ...
[16:43]  * devildante asks who are these voices anyway
[16:44] <davmor2> devildante: get you coat and go now if you don't hear them, save yourself ;)
[16:44]  * devildante runs to... bug school :p
[16:44] <charlie-tca> heh
[16:44] <charlie-tca> I don't know who they are, I gave up on them now
[16:54] <pedro_> vish,  thanks for adding the students to the team, btw did you sent them any email with info about it?
[16:55] <c2tarun> pedro_ : if you are talking about the Alpha team then yes he did send mails
[16:56] <pedro_> c2tarun, that's exactly what i'm talking about, thank you :-=
[16:56] <pedro_> :-)
[16:56] <pedro_> thanks vish!
[16:56] <c2tarun> :)
[16:57] <pedro_> QA Meeting at #ubuntu-quality in ~3 minutes
[16:57] <devildante> pedro_: how am I supposed to attend a meeting and run a classroom at the same time? :p
[16:57] <pedro_> we can try to clone you
[16:58] <vish> pedro_: yea, it was in the decline mail for the mentor team.. i mentioned that they were declined and added to this new team and it had the same info..
[16:58] <pedro_> nice :-)
[16:58] <devildante> pedro_: heh :p
[16:58] <pedro_> wouldn't be great to have two devildante ? :-)
[16:59] <vish> there is also evildante
[16:59] <devildante> pedro_: I'd rather have three pedro_, please ;)
[16:59] <devildante> lol
[17:00] <pedro_> hahaha
[17:01] <pedro_> devildante, my mother disagree though :-P
[17:01] <devildante> pedro_: three children are better than one ;)
[21:41] <rusivi> Regarding bug 152858 it seems (but IDK) that this should also have a bug in Debian tracker now that OP has moved to that and confirmed it there too?!
[21:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 152858 in liblivemedia (Ubuntu) "-4 flag gives an Apple QuickTime file (heat: 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152858
[21:46] <micahg> rusivi: well, there's a new version in experimental and natty
[21:54] <rusivi> micahg: I just noted in Debian Experimental & Ubuntu Natty that both have the newer version. What do you think is the next step?
[21:54] <micahg> rusivi: someone should test those versions, or check the upstream changelog for that version if there is one
[21:56] <rusivi> micahg: First thing I thought of is use Maverick, compile the newest liblivemedia from source, then try to reproduce
[21:57] <micahg> rusivi: if you want to do that, that's fine, but we don't recommend such things generally
[21:58] <rusivi> micahg: I would like to do that b/c that is within my skill level. If you have a better alternative I am all eyes :D
[22:00] <micahg> rusivi: you could backport the package to maverick and try it I guess, build-depends are minimal
[22:00] <rusivi> micahg: Do you have a link for proper backport procedure?
[22:01] <micahg> rusivi: I was suggesting a local backport w/pbuilder, not an official one
[22:01] <rusivi> micahg: Yeah that's over my head, idk what is local backport w/ pbuilder, what is that?
[22:01] <micahg> rusivi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[22:02] <rusivi> :D
[22:03] <carlos2> hello?
[22:06] <hggdh> carlos2: no need to say hello, just ask your question
[22:13] <carlos2> i have an error with ubuntu unity
[22:13] <carlos2> says driver not found, must run in desktop mode
[22:15] <micahg> carlos2: what video driver do you have?
[22:15] <micahg> and which release of Ubuntu?
[22:16] <carlos2> 10.10
[22:17] <carlos2> driver that's included
[22:17] <carlos2> it's on a dell mini10
[22:18] <micahg> carlos2: I'd suggest checking in #ubuntu since this seems like a support question