[01:21] <micahg> hi cyphermox
[01:22] <cyphermox> hey micahg
[01:22] <micahg> cyphermox: did you get my notes on ofono?
[01:22] <cyphermox> yep, if you mean those in the merge request?
[01:22] <micahg> cyphermox: yep
[01:58] <DEKiMA> What does MOTU stand for?
[02:00] <porthose> DEKiMA, Masters Of The Universe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:00] <DEKiMA> Ok. Haha...
[02:04] <DEKiMA> Ok, then I may belong here.
[02:05] <DEKiMA> I would like to see a package in the multiverse repo updated. Can I help with that? I know how to package it, that was pretty easy looking since I have plenty of Unix-like OS experience and computer experience in general.
[02:07] <maco> yeah just generate a new source package for the new version. make it for 11.04 since thats the development version
[02:07] <DEKiMA> Correct.
[02:07] <DEKiMA> How can I submit it to be added to the repository?
[02:07] <DEKiMA> Or to being the process of submitting it.
[02:08] <maco> since the old package already exists, i think just uploading the source pakage to  bug on launchpad saying "update foo to version bar in multiverse" and subscribing sponsors should work
[02:08] <maco> totally new packages go through revu
[02:08] <ari-tczew> and add tag 'upgrade;
[02:09] <DEKiMA> Oh ok. Sheesh I made an entire new project page. I'll delete that.
[02:09] <maco> theres tags for type of upload to be sponsored?
[02:09] <ari-tczew> maco: to type a bug
[02:09] <maco> whend that happen?
[02:10] <ari-tczew> it's not related to sponsorship
[02:10]  * ari-tczew is off to bed, bye.
[02:14] <DEKiMA> One question I need to ask is, can I create the source package on a non Debian based OS?
[02:17] <DEKiMA> I currently run Slackware and I believe I have all of the prerequisites except for apt or dpkg.
[02:17] <DEKiMA> However as I am simply downloading the source and packaging it for Ubuntu, I don't need to gather dependenies.
[02:18] <DEKiMA> For myself that is.
[02:26] <udienz> DEKiMA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Packaging%20from%20Scratch
[02:28] <udienz> DEKiMA: do you like videos? dholbach makes great videos http://youtube.com/watch?v=zKLabbXTqMc http://youtube.com/watch?v=SwTp1YnehoI
[02:28] <maco> oh yes!
[02:28] <maco> dholbach's videos are how i learned to package :P
[02:29] <DEKiMA> I watched those videos. That's how I got interested in doing this.
[02:29] <maco> DEKiMA: well youd be expected to do a test build of the package
[02:29] <maco> so if you could get an ubuntu vm or something...
[02:29] <DEKiMA> On Ubuntu?
[02:29] <maco> or debian
[02:29] <DEKiMA> Ok.
[02:30] <maco> but need to check that the source package to binary package conversion goes over properly
[02:30] <DEKiMA> I don't have a problem install Ubuntu again. But I just didn't want to go to more work than I needed to.
[02:30] <DEKiMA> sed 's|install|installing|'
[02:30] <maco> well...hmmm
[02:30] <DEKiMA> Thanks, maco :)
[02:30] <maco> could manually execute the debian/rules file i suppose...
[02:31] <maco> but without dpkg-buildpackage or debuild im not sure how itd kick out a deb
[02:31] <DEKiMA> No that's ok haha. I'll just install 10.10. That is the version I want to use correct? Even though I'll submit it for 11.04 which isn't out yet?
[02:31] <maco> hmm speaking of slackware...
[02:32] <maco> oh actually
[02:32] <maco> instead of having a vm
[02:32] <maco> what you can do is have an sbuilder or pbuilder chroot
[02:32] <maco> which does a clean chroot'd build, so that the build dependencies are tested too
[02:33] <DEKiMA> I'm sorry?
[02:34] <maco> pbuilder & sbuilder are two tools that make minimal chroots of ubuntu (or debian or whatever) and you can give them the source package and they'll download the build dependencies, try the build, and spit out a deb if it worked
[02:34] <udienz> maco: i have a little bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/543879/ helping me when i build in pbuilder
[02:35] <DEKiMA> I see.
[02:35] <maco> (and then they delete the build dependencies so you always have a clean chroot instead of ending up with cruft that keeps you from knowing whether you listed build dependencies correctly)
[02:35] <maco> ive never used them outside of ubuntu (since well... ive never stuck with any other distro more than a month) but i doubt chroot works differently on slack than on ubuntu :)
[02:36] <DEKiMA> Haha I'm very much the same way.
[06:41] <micahg> Riddell: bug 678283 was marked fix released, but I don't see it on launchpad as a source package in natty
[07:27] <hajour> hai all. i hope i am not shal disturb your time.i just want to ask ore someone wish to help us with the speech control voice command program with realistic voice
[07:28] <hajour> to let show who i am just read my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hajour
[07:28] <hajour> i am from the accessibility team
[07:29] <micahg> hajour: how can I help you?
[07:30] <hajour> the team need help in time for to bind  programs and advice
[07:30] <hajour> they are not so sure witch program is the best
[07:30] <hajour> a little advice should be welcome
[07:30] <micahg> I'm sorry, I don't understand
[07:31] <hajour> bind=combine
[07:31] <hajour> maybe if you want to come to the channel because i am not a programmer
[07:32] <hajour> they can say it better
[07:32] <hajour> sorry for my bad english
[07:33] <micahg> hajour: which channel?
[07:34] <hajour> ##speechcontrol i now the channel have 2 ## but that is because they wanted a other name
[07:35] <hajour> but phillw can tell you that to
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <hajour> bye all and thanks
[12:21] <geser> micahg: see bug 690356
[15:00] <Riddell> micahg: python-pyproj is in New queue
[15:25] <micahg> Riddell: I forgot about that, sorry :(
[15:25] <highvoltage> dholbach: the 16th of Debianber? :)
[15:26] <dholbach> highvoltage, I'm VERY stoked
[15:26] <dholbach> :-P
[15:26] <dholbach> (oops :))
[15:26] <micahg> geser: thanks
[17:40] <ari-tczew> ebroder: ping
[18:25] <smallfoot-> package 'rhyme' was in dapper, hardy, karmic, now its gone, why?
[18:28] <micahg> smallfoot-: dead upstream according to Debian
[18:31] <smallfoot-> but its was useful for me
[18:32] <smallfoot-> a dictionary isnt something that gonna get less useful cuz its dead
[18:34] <jpds> smallfoot-: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553720
[18:36] <ebroder> ari-tczew: pong
[18:37] <smallfoot-> well i downloaded the .deb for karmic from packages.ubuntu.com and installed that
[18:37] <smallfoot-> so fuck that
[18:37] <ebroder> Though still working through backlog, so may be another minute
[18:37] <jpds> smallfoot-: Alright.
[18:37] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I downloaded your full branch, but it still doesn't work
[18:37] <maco> hey hey language...
[18:40] <smallfoot-> i can use whatever language i want, im a gangster, ubuntu is made for black ppl
[18:40] <ari-tczew> rofl
[18:41] <ebroder> ari-tczew: Can you pastebin the output?
[18:41]  * maco rolls eyes
[18:56] <ari-tczew> ebroder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544127/
[18:56] <ebroder> ari-tczew: And backportpackage is a wrapper script that sets your cwd to the branch then runs backportpackage?
[18:57] <ari-tczew> ebroder: cwd?
[18:57] <ebroder> ari-tczew: current working directory
[18:58] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I downloaded your branch (by bzr branch)
[18:58] <ari-tczew> I went there
[18:58] <ari-tczew> and run command - rest you have on pastebin
[18:59] <ebroder> ari-tczew: If you're running "backportpackage" and not "./backportpackage", then you're running the one you put in ~/bin, not the one in the branch (it makes a difference)
[19:02] <ari-tczew> ebroder: yes, you're right
[19:02] <ari-tczew> ebroder: Please check the package in file:///tmp/backportpackage-9jCjux carefully
[19:03] <ari-tczew> but this file is not exist
[19:03] <ebroder> ari-tczew: It's a directory, not a file
[19:04] <ari-tczew> ebroder: anyway, doesn't exist
[19:04] <ebroder> ari-tczew: Did you say yes or no? The script cleans up after itself when it exits
[19:04] <ari-tczew> ebroder: there weren't any question
[19:05] <ari-tczew> seems like you don't know what your script is doing
[19:05] <ari-tczew> I was only asked about password to sign dsc file
[19:06] <ebroder> ari-tczew: I'd appreciate it if you weren't so combatative. You need to pass a --upload ppa:ari-tczew/ppa or whatever flag, otherwise backportpackage doesn't have anything to do once it creates the source package. I'll fix it to error out if you don't specify an action, though
[19:07] <ari-tczew> ebroder: so, can't I see .changes file before uploading? not good, not good!
[19:08] <ari-tczew> for that reason syncpackage is not welcome
[19:08] <ebroder> ari-tczew: No, if you pass a -u option, it will build the source package, give you that "please go inspect" message, then prompt you whether you actually want to upload the package or not before actually doing so. That's the point that you can see it
[19:09] <ari-tczew> ebroder: how should looks coomand with -u ?
[19:09] <ebroder> ari-tczew: -u is the same as --upload
[19:10] <ari-tczew> omg
[19:10] <ebroder> So something like ./backportpackage --from natty --to maverick --upload ppa:ari-tzcew/ppa clementine
[19:10] <ebroder> It won't automatically upload without asking you first
[19:11] <ari-tczew> ebroder: I suggest you to reconsider ~ppa0 instead ppa1
[19:11] <ari-tczew> always one revision to go :)
[19:11] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i prefer ~ppa1
[19:12] <Laney> Those two sets are isomorphic
[19:12] <ebroder> ari-tczew: I've always used ~ppa1. Just like Debian uses -1, and we use ubuntu1 or ~maverick1
[19:12] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you can see the .changes file if you use syncpackage - the reason for not being welcome is a different
[19:13] <ari-tczew> ebroder: for SRU/security we use ubuntu0.1 :)
[19:13] <ebroder> ari-tczew: But it's the .1 that matters, not the 0
[19:15] <ari-tczew> does anybody work on maverick? I'm looking for testers to test Clementine music player
[19:17] <Laney> the point is that ubuntu0.1 is less than ubuntu1
[20:00] <ari-tczew> ebroder: would be nice to add a flag -bug
[20:08] <ebroder> ari-tczew: I don't understand what that should do
[20:13] <ari-tczew> ebroder: support launchpad janitor closing bugs, like in syncpackage
[20:14] <ebroder> ari-tczew: I don't want to encourage using backportpackage for actually doing real backports. Those should be done by the AA's, who have their own way of closing bugs (just like with syncs)
[20:14] <ari-tczew> bdrung: what do you think about it? ^^
[20:15] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i see no need for specifying a lp bug