| karora | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2 | 01:02 |
|---|---|---|
| karora | That's just awesome :-) | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | amusing | 01:06 |
| * karora is really curious about how many eyeballs are going over the OpenBSD networking code right now... | 01:07 | |
| ojwb | and now, openbsdleaks | 01:11 |
| ojwb | if they really tried to get backdoors into openbsd code, it's a pretty safe bet they've got backdoors into windows | 01:14 |
| ibeardslee | and mac | 01:15 |
| ojwb | indeed | 01:16 |
| ibeardslee | if it is true .. that is so scarey | 01:16 |
| ojwb | widespread use of strong crypto is quite scary if you're the fbi | 01:16 |
| thumper | heh | 01:31 |
| mwhudson | mmm | 01:35 |
| mwhudson | seems just a little too closer to a security wonks wet drea^W^Wparanoid fantasy to ring true to me | 01:35 |
| snail | karora: reading that email, i suspect that the first email has been cleverly forged by someone who knows Theo's buttons are | 02:09 |
| snail | but it's not a bad thing if it encourages a few dozen people to pore over the code in question | 02:10 |
| ojwb | if it is forged, the "sender" probably isn't going to be too happy | 02:14 |
| ojwb | even if they deny having sent it, a significant number of people won't believe them | 02:15 |
| mwhudson | on thinking about it | 02:18 |
| mwhudson | "My NDA with the FBI has recently expired" doesn't seem very likely | 02:18 |
| ojwb | yeah, i wondered about that | 02:19 |
| ojwb | some NDAs probably do expire, but it seems an unlikely clause to put in if you're funding backdoors getting put in software | 02:20 |
| snail | ojwb: commercial NDAs expire, but the NDA that i signed when I joined trimble was based on the USA DoD one (because they do/did DoD work), and it was non-terminating | 02:24 |
| snail | any ex-VUW people who're interested in what's happening in the quad these days: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=251834&id=577341636&l=a8a320836e | 02:31 |
| karora | Other people will be better placed to ascertain the truth of that e-mail, but it doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility to me. | 02:32 |
| ojwb | i could easily believe either | 02:34 |
| ojwb | or indeed both (that the FBI paid to get a backdoor added, but that the mail is a forgery) | 02:34 |
| mwhudson | heh | 02:34 |
| snail | the core talent of a good troll is knowing how to keep things just within the realm of possibility | 02:34 |
| mwhudson | that would have a certain irony | 02:34 |
| ojwb | one of the people dropped in it by the mail has denied any FBI connections | 02:35 |
| ojwb | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129237981610360&w=2 | 02:35 |
| mwhudson | of course he would say that! | 02:36 |
| * mwhudson gets the popcorn | 02:36 | |
| snail | or that the FBI planted a fake email to deprive wikileaks of technical resource in the short term | 02:36 |
| ajmitch | all so very amusing:) | 02:37 |
| ojwb | do wikileaks rely on ipsec VPNs? | 02:37 |
| snail | ojwb: who knows? | 02:37 |
| ojwb | the fbi? | 02:37 |
| snail | interesting phrase: "affiliated with or employed by the FBI" surely you're affiliated or employed by a front company, not directly by the FBI? | 02:39 |
| * snail knows very little of the details here | 02:39 | |
| ojwb | the next two sentences suggest that's not a deliberate loop hole in though | 02:40 |
| Atamira | eeepp..talking | 02:43 |
| Atamira | actual talking | 02:43 |
| ojwb | morning | 02:44 |
| Atamira | afternoon | 02:44 |
| Atamira | its stinking hot | 02:44 |
| hads | Sure is | 02:44 |
| snail | Atamira: technically typing ... | 02:44 |
| Atamira | snail, :P | 02:44 |
| * mwhudson is reminded of http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2010/05/10/100510crat_atlarge_gladwell?currentPage=all | 02:44 | |
| Atamira | ewww..garlic flavoured chocolate | 02:48 |
| mwhudson | (which is an extremely fun read in any case) | 02:48 |
| Atamira | yea..could be a book | 02:51 |
| Atamira | or even a play | 02:51 |
| mwhudson | it's in Cryptonomicon | 02:52 |
| Atamira | its in what? | 02:52 |
| Atamira | ahh | 02:53 |
| mwhudson | a book by neal stephenson | 02:53 |
| Atamira | gotta love google | 02:53 |
| * ajmitch should probably read that | 02:53 | |
| ajmitch | I bought it a little while ago & intended to read it :) | 02:53 |
| mwhudson | it's fun | 02:54 |
| mwhudson | mind you, i probably read it 10 years ago | 02:54 |
| mwhudson | that's a bit depressing | 02:54 |
| ojwb | no, it's good to be able to remember things you did 10 years ago | 02:54 |
| mwhudson | i guess :) | 02:54 |
| ojwb | well, I assume it would be | 02:55 |
| Atamira | heh..ive read so many books over the years | 02:55 |
| Atamira | that i dont realise ive read it till ive started reading it again | 02:55 |
| mwhudson | i had a moment in arty bees the other week | 02:55 |
| mwhudson | i picked up a book, nearly bought it | 02:55 |
| mwhudson | then realized at the last minute that i'd already bought it (from arty bees, too) | 02:56 |
| Atamira | lol | 02:56 |
| mwhudson | then got home and realized i'd _read_ it too | 02:56 |
| mwhudson | doesn't say too much for the book... | 02:56 |
| Atamira | heheh | 02:56 |
| Atamira | i hate reading a book then getting nearly to the end and realising ive already read it | 02:57 |
| ibeardslee | I love reading a book I know I've read and can't remember how it finishes | 02:57 |
| Atamira | ahh...arty bees sounds like the one in onehunga i used to go to..the 'hard to find bookshop' shop | 02:58 |
| mwhudson | it's a dangerous place | 02:59 |
| ibeardslee | you need to setup koha ;) | 03:01 |
| Atamira | all bookshops are dangerous places for book lovers | 03:02 |
| Atamira | koha? | 03:02 |
| * snail works in a library = inoculation against such risks | 03:03 | |
| ibeardslee | http://koha-community.org/ | 03:03 |
| snail | looks like greenstone is going closed source, got an email today from a waikato paralegal after my residential mailing address. the only thing i can imagine they want is my greenstone copyrights... | 03:04 |
| ibeardslee | you could sell them for lots of $$ | 03:08 |
| snail | ibeardslee: i have my fingerprints on a very small number of files, and they have/had a decent version control system | 03:12 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 18:19 |
| snail | anyone else find drpobox consuming 100% of a cpu this morning? | 18:46 |
| ibeardslee | not me | 19:03 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:07 |
| snail | morning | 19:20 |
| mwhudson | morning | 19:45 |
| snail | on a sane keyoard, how do i type "Super + M" ? | 19:55 |
| ajmitch | usually it's the key with a funny windows symbol | 19:55 |
| ajmitch | but on a sane keyboard? | 19:56 |
| ibeardslee | the little apple key? | 20:00 |
| mwhudson | "the one that's not alt or control" | 20:09 |
| Atamira | mornin | 22:09 |
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