| DoubleB | hello all :D | 03:37 |
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| zillah | and hello from me also | 03:52 |
| Ahmuck | hi | 04:02 |
| zillah | hi Ahmuck | 04:03 |
| zillah | hey TommyT | 04:06 |
| TommyT | Howdy! I almost forgot to stop by. | 04:06 |
| zillah | lol | 04:07 |
| zillah | how are you tonight | 04:07 |
| TommyT | I'm doing great. I was trying to pull up the logs to catch up on the conversation... | 04:08 |
| zillah | if i had to guess i'd say there hasn't been much of one | 04:09 |
| TommyT | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/15/%23ubuntu-us-ar.txt | 04:09 |
| TommyT | Looks like it, though this log bot is not as "real time" as the old one was | 04:09 |
| TommyT | Also I wish it was in local time, not UTC | 04:10 |
| DoubleB | hey | 04:10 |
| TommyT | .... I do have an Ubuntu topic to ask about | 04:11 |
| TommyT | someone gave me an Acer Aspire 5100 laptop they had given up on | 04:12 |
| TommyT | I was able to restore it to "factory fresh" and I thought it was merely afflicted with 5 levels of Hell | 04:12 |
| TommyT | Microsoft | 04:12 |
| TommyT | Windows | 04:13 |
| TommyT | Vista | 04:13 |
| TommyT | Home | 04:13 |
| TommyT | Premium | 04:13 |
| zillah | lol | 04:13 |
| TommyT | UNFORTUNATELY, however, the Radeon 1100 card in it has a serious bug | 04:13 |
| zillah | what's the bug? | 04:13 |
| TommyT | when running Ubuntu, if you suspend it and wake it up, the display is garbled | 04:14 |
| zillah | hrm | 04:14 |
| TommyT | I have tried all the possible settings INCLUDING the xorg-crack repository | 04:14 |
| DoubleB | ha love the five levels of hell | 04:14 |
| TommyT | even weirder... | 04:14 |
| TommyT | X won't run at ALL with vesa or fbdev (vanilla) drivers | 04:15 |
| TommyT | I can't imagine having a laptop you can't suspend, so I've been hacking away at it for over a week now | 04:16 |
| TommyT | I've been posting in an Ubuntu bug and tracking an xorg bug | 04:17 |
| zillah | have you using ati catalyst drivers? | 04:17 |
| zillah | are you* | 04:17 |
| zillah | sorry for the engrish | 04:17 |
| TommyT | I don't know catalyst... where do they come from? | 04:17 |
| zillah | grrr...usually from ATI's site, but i'm getting Service Unavailable | 04:19 |
| zillah | you might look at this: http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/11436/ | 04:19 |
| TommyT | I'm finding something on http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx | 04:19 |
| TommyT | HAH it just went to service unavailable | 04:20 |
| zillah | lol well at least it's not just me | 04:21 |
| TommyT | If nothing else the techspot site has a lot of words on it, some of which might help me out | 04:22 |
| zillah | i had an ati card and was having issues with dual monitors and i think the catalyst driver + edits to xorgconfig fixed it i think | 04:22 |
| TommyT | great... for whatever reason I haven't run into this much video trouble before | 04:23 |
| TommyT | especially that vesa won't work at all -- it segfaults | 04:23 |
| TommyT | I was going to check for a bug on that... xorg calls the vesa driver "failsafe" | 04:24 |
| DoubleB | zillah i remember that day. | 04:24 |
| zillah | yeah that was a nightmare DoubleB | 04:25 |
| DoubleB | yeah but after you found that tutorial all was good | 04:25 |
| DoubleB | did you delicious that site? | 04:26 |
| zillah | not sure, i'll look | 04:26 |
| TommyT | Here's some info for Ubuntu 9.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI | 04:32 |
| zillah | here's that tutorial DoubleB was talking about that i used: http://blog.vinceliu.com/2009/02/setting-dual-head-displays-with-radeon.html | 04:32 |
| TommyT | THAT looks pretty helpful.... UNFORTUNATELY.... | 04:34 |
| TommyT | "Ah, suspend/hibernate - this is one of the difficult issues when it comes to Linux in general. Neither of my colleagues nor I could make it work properly, and some of them are really hard-core guys :P" | 04:35 |
| TommyT | drat | 04:35 |
| TommyT | Thanks for the leads, however. That gives me a lot more to try when I should be getting my work done. ;-) | 04:36 |
| zillah | i've never had much luck with it either from what i remember | 04:37 |
| TommyT | I'll have to go soon... I think the reason the laptop thing galls me so much is... | 04:39 |
| TommyT | I can watch Vista grinding away horribly but it can suspend OK. Ubuntu fairly screams, but tears up the screen if you forget and close the lid | 04:40 |
| zillah | lol | 04:40 |
| zillah | i know what you mean | 04:40 |
| zillah | that's my complaint with freebsd | 04:40 |
| zillah | it's rock solid, but forget using Flash :( | 04:41 |
| TommyT | Last time I used Gnash it was ALMOST functional. | 04:41 |
| TommyT | Maybe it will work with freebsd | 04:41 |
| zillah | yeah i saw something about that the other day | 04:41 |
| TommyT | it has probably been two years since I tried it | 04:42 |
| DoubleB | HTML5 <video> ftw! | 04:42 |
| zillah | i just gave up and took the keyboard mouse video and speakers off freebsd and access it from ubuntu now with vnc | 04:42 |
| zillah | amen DoubleB | 04:42 |
| TommyT | it's funny because I was reading something the other day that pointed out... | 04:43 |
| TommyT | it hasn't been THAT long ago that Quicktime was THE way to put video online | 04:43 |
| DoubleB | I can't wait until firefox 4 releses. then I can us webm on the website | 04:43 |
| TommyT | but YouTube instantly made Flash the most popular way to do video | 04:44 |
| zillah | yeah, which is great for windows users, sucks for everybody else | 04:44 |
| DoubleB | yup | 04:44 |
| zillah | DoubleB, what's webm | 04:44 |
| TommyT | Nowadays you can play most quicktime stuff using vnc or totem | 04:45 |
| TommyT | vlc I mean | 04:45 |
| DoubleB | http://www.webmproject.org/ | 04:45 |
| DoubleB | google bought the codec and free/opened it | 04:46 |
| DoubleB | fsf endorses it | 04:46 |
| TommyT | I got the idea they were all gangbusters on that a few months back but slowed way down | 04:46 |
| zillah | oh i remember this now | 04:46 |
| DoubleB | Chrome and Opera support and so will Firefox 4 :D | 04:46 |
| DoubleB | ie 9 will support it with the codec installed | 04:47 |
| TommyT | didn't they drop the special url in Youtube? | 04:47 |
| TommyT | or is it still available | 04:47 |
| DoubleB | for? | 04:47 |
| TommyT | for the webm or html5 | 04:47 |
| TommyT | I can't remember | 04:47 |
| DoubleB | youtube.com/htm5 | 04:47 |
| DoubleB | opt in | 04:48 |
| TommyT | http://www.youtube.com/html5 that's it | 04:48 |
| TommyT | I thought I read somewhere they dropped it, but maybe I dreamt it | 04:49 |
| DoubleB | there is someway to force webm but I forget | 04:49 |
| zillah | it tells on the webm site | 04:49 |
| zillah | you append &webm to the url or something | 04:49 |
| TommyT | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-play-webm-video-on-youtube.html | 04:50 |
| TommyT | there's what I read -- Google didn't convert EVERYTHING to webm, so some videos won't play | 04:51 |
| DoubleB | yeah | 04:51 |
| TommyT | or maybe that has changed or will change when the new browsers come out | 04:51 |
| TommyT | well I am getting the "it is cold and you need to come to bed" messages from the other room | 04:53 |
| TommyT | gotta go | 04:53 |
| zillah | lol ttyl TommyT | 04:53 |
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