[03:37] hello all :D [03:52] and hello from me also [04:02] hi [04:03] hi Ahmuck [04:06] hey TommyT [04:06] Howdy! I almost forgot to stop by. [04:07] lol [04:07] how are you tonight [04:08] I'm doing great. I was trying to pull up the logs to catch up on the conversation... [04:09] if i had to guess i'd say there hasn't been much of one [04:09] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/15/%23ubuntu-us-ar.txt [04:09] Looks like it, though this log bot is not as "real time" as the old one was [04:10] Also I wish it was in local time, not UTC [04:10] hey [04:11] .... I do have an Ubuntu topic to ask about [04:12] someone gave me an Acer Aspire 5100 laptop they had given up on [04:12] I was able to restore it to "factory fresh" and I thought it was merely afflicted with 5 levels of Hell [04:12] Microsoft [04:13] Windows [04:13] Vista [04:13] Home [04:13] Premium [04:13] lol [04:13] UNFORTUNATELY, however, the Radeon 1100 card in it has a serious bug [04:13] what's the bug? [04:14] when running Ubuntu, if you suspend it and wake it up, the display is garbled [04:14] hrm [04:14] I have tried all the possible settings INCLUDING the xorg-crack repository [04:14] ha love the five levels of hell [04:14] even weirder... [04:15] X won't run at ALL with vesa or fbdev (vanilla) drivers [04:16] I can't imagine having a laptop you can't suspend, so I've been hacking away at it for over a week now [04:17] I've been posting in an Ubuntu bug and tracking an xorg bug [04:17] have you using ati catalyst drivers? [04:17] are you* [04:17] sorry for the engrish [04:17] I don't know catalyst... where do they come from? [04:19] grrr...usually from ATI's site, but i'm getting Service Unavailable [04:19] you might look at this: http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/11436/ [04:19] I'm finding something on http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx [04:20] HAH it just went to service unavailable [04:21] lol well at least it's not just me [04:22] If nothing else the techspot site has a lot of words on it, some of which might help me out [04:22] i had an ati card and was having issues with dual monitors and i think the catalyst driver + edits to xorgconfig fixed it i think [04:23] great... for whatever reason I haven't run into this much video trouble before [04:23] especially that vesa won't work at all -- it segfaults [04:24] I was going to check for a bug on that... xorg calls the vesa driver "failsafe" [04:24] zillah i remember that day. [04:25] yeah that was a nightmare DoubleB [04:25] yeah but after you found that tutorial all was good [04:26] did you delicious that site? [04:26] not sure, i'll look [04:32] Here's some info for Ubuntu 9.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [04:32] here's that tutorial DoubleB was talking about that i used: http://blog.vinceliu.com/2009/02/setting-dual-head-displays-with-radeon.html [04:34] THAT looks pretty helpful.... UNFORTUNATELY.... [04:35] "Ah, suspend/hibernate - this is one of the difficult issues when it comes to Linux in general. Neither of my colleagues nor I could make it work properly, and some of them are really hard-core guys :P" [04:35] drat [04:36] Thanks for the leads, however. That gives me a lot more to try when I should be getting my work done. ;-) [04:37] i've never had much luck with it either from what i remember [04:39] I'll have to go soon... I think the reason the laptop thing galls me so much is... [04:40] I can watch Vista grinding away horribly but it can suspend OK. Ubuntu fairly screams, but tears up the screen if you forget and close the lid [04:40] lol [04:40] i know what you mean [04:40] that's my complaint with freebsd [04:41] it's rock solid, but forget using Flash :( [04:41] Last time I used Gnash it was ALMOST functional. [04:41] Maybe it will work with freebsd [04:41] yeah i saw something about that the other day [04:42] it has probably been two years since I tried it [04:42] HTML5