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Guest904hello pls my soundcard stoped working after doing an upgrade on xubuntu, anybody would pls help me?00:39
Guest904hello pls my soundcard stoped working after doing an upgrade on xubuntu, anybody would pls help me?00:42
mefistofeleshey02:36
mefistofelesdoes xubuntu uses gnome volume applet? or what does it use?02:36
mefistofelesit's for a friend02:36
sk8ergurl87_hi everyone :) I have a question since I just installed Ubuntu02:38
sk8ergurl87_ubuntu seems not to be detecting my microphone at all02:39
moetunessk8ergurl87_:  ubuntu or xubuntu ?02:41
sk8ergurl87_ubuntu 10.10... im not sure which irc channel I should be in02:41
sk8ergurl87_so I am sorry if i'm in the wrong one...02:41
moetunessk8ergurl87_:  in your irc client do /join #ubuntu02:42
sk8ergurl87_ok thank you! :)02:43
charlie-tcamefistofeles: xfce4-mixer02:43
mefistofelescharlie-tca: thanks02:43
charlie-tca!panel03:50
ubottuDid you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/03:50
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sergio_barbanegrplease i lots my audio after the upgrade of my xubuntu 10.0405:22
sergio_barbanegrqhat can i do?05:23
gr8m8check that there are sound modules being loaded with   lsmod | grep snd   in terminal05:25
sergio_barbanegrthanks05:27
sergio_barbanegralright what should i do05:28
gr8m8there were a few modules already loaded?05:31
sergio_barbanegri dont know05:34
sergio_barbanegri showed you through private whats shown05:34
gr8m8why would you pm in such a quiet channel? and how could you not know how many there were?05:37
gr8m8more then 5?05:37
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_via82xx            20058  205:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> gameport                9089  1 snd_via82xx05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_ac97_codec        100646  1 snd_via82xx05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> ac97_bus                1002  1 snd_ac97_codec05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_pcm_oss            35308  005:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_mixer_oss          13746  2 snd_pcm_oss05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_pcm                70694  3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_page_alloc          7076  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_mpu401_uart         5617  1 snd_via82xx05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq_dummy           1338  005:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq_oss            26722  005:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq_midi            4557  005:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_rawmidi            19056  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq_midi_event      6003  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq                47263  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_timer              19098  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq05:39
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd_seq_device          5700  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq05:40
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> snd                    54180  13 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device05:40
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> soundcore               6620  2 snd05:40
sergio_barbanegr<sergio_barbanegr> this is being shown05:40
sergio_barbanegri dont really know05:40
sergio_barbanegri am not really good at this05:40
sergio_barbanegrthat is what is shown05:41
lightasergio_barbanegr, you should really use pastebin05:41
sergio_barbanegrit was working fine i just did a general upgrade05:41
sergio_barbanegraja05:42
sergio_barbanegrdont know just do not have any sound05:46
sergio_barbanegr+and it was fine before05:46
* BALSAQ takes the long way home to....Xubuntu!07:03
nicofsDoes anybody know when there will be an ARM-release of Xubuntu?10:58
Sysiwhen ubuntu want's to support it, if yet doesn't11:00
nicofsafaik, 80% of ubuntu packages are ported to ARM already...11:04
iTruchi13:17
iTruchow to mount shared folders in xubuntu ?13:17
charlie-tca!samba13:18
brotiTruc: depends on the type of those shared folders.13:18
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.13:18
iTrucwhy windows ?13:20
iTruc:)à13:20
iTruc:)13:20
charlie-tcaperhaps you would then expand and tell us what you are trying to do?13:20
iTructo connect and mount a shared folder with VMware (yes it's a virtual machine)13:22
iTrucso how to ?13:22
charlie-tcaI have no idea about VMware. It isn't supported in Xubuntu as far as I know13:23
brotiTruc: vmware uses smb shares13:38
brotso look in the vmware help what ip addres and what share name to use, and mount it like a samba share13:39
DeddlyHello, I wonder if anyone can help with an audio problem I am having. Sound playback is crackly at best (sometimes just a buzz when I change settings in Mixer). The computer is an IBM Thinkpad T-22. Soundblaster Pro soundcard I believe.14:01
DeddlyOh yes, and it's Xubuntu 10.04 LTS14:01
DeddlyNobody has any ideas?14:05
leoquant!audio14:15
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.14:15
DeddlyThanks, I'll check it out, leoquant . I should also add that I have no audio issues using DSL on the same machine.14:17
leoquantDSL= damn small linix Deddly ?14:20
leoquantix=ux14:20
leoquanti have used it with OSS14:21
leoquant(which is open sound system)14:22
Deddlyleoquant: Yes, that's the one.14:22
leoquantbut please check the wiki first Deddly14:22
Deddlyleoquant: I'm reading it now but so far it seems to be adressing sound not working at all14:22
Deddlyleoquant: I can't see anything there that seems to relate to my problem. You think OSS could help?14:25
leoquantDeddly, i am not a sound specialist , maybe someone else in  this support channel14:25
leoquantstay tuned14:25
Deddlyleoquant: OK, thanks for the help in any case.14:26
iTruc[14:38] brot: iTruc: vmware uses smb shares <<--- ok thanks ;)14:29
iTruccharlie-tca: know if someone ask the same question you know. :)14:29
iTrucin the ubuntu software liv14:43
iTruclibrary14:43
iTrucwhat do i need to choose for a samba client ,14:44
iTruc?*14:44
iTruc:)14:44
charlie-tca!smb15:02
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:02
charlie-tcaMight be able to use gigolo too15:02
Morphixcan anyone assist me in making my onboard nic and USB ports work please? "lsusn" shows nothing even with a USB drive connected16:19
Morphix"lsusb" even16:19
charlie-tcawhat does lspci show for network card?16:24
Morphixit only shows the nic thats I have put into the PCI slot16:24
Morphixoh wait16:25
charlie-tcaMaybe you have to turn the onboard nic and the usb ports on in bios16:25
Morphixno it does show the onboard I think16:25
Morphix"00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 08)"16:25
Morphixbut I am unsure if thats the card its showing twice16:26
Morphixas everything else is VIA16:26
charlie-tcaIs that a wired and wireless both capable card, perhaps?16:26
Morphixnope, as there is no wireless16:26
charlie-tca10.04 and 10.10 should have detected the card16:26
Morphixhow can I find out for certain?16:28
charlie-tcaprobably plug the ethernet cable into it, remove the slot card, and restart the computer? Have you tried that?16:29
charlie-tcaWhen you right click the network manager in the top panel, does it show eth0 and eth1?16:30
Morphixwell when I first installed the system I had the cable plugged into the onboard however, when the install was complete I had no networking16:31
Morphixno just eth016:31
charlie-tcaDoes the pci slot override the onboard?16:32
Morphixno it shouldnt16:32
Morphixthats only the case with graphics cards I believe16:32
charlie-tcait did on older dell laptops16:33
Morphixthis is not a laptop16:33
Morphixneed a reboot hang on please16:34
MorphixI can only see eth0 :(16:37
MorphixI am running 10.1016:38
charlie-tcalspci showed three ethernet controllers? or jsut the intel Pro 100 ?16:39
charlie-tcas/jsut/just16:39
Morphixjust the install pro 10016:39
Morphixintel*16:39
charlie-tcaThen the onboard is not showing up at all16:39
Morphixit would seem not16:39
Morphixbut it is enabled16:39
Morphixas when I connect a cable it lights up16:40
charlie-tcathat pro100 must be the PCI card16:40
Morphixyes16:40
Morphixso howcome I cant see the onboard one or anything for USB?16:40
charlie-tcaI don't know, unless there is a bios setting to turn them off/on16:41
Morphixit is defo enabled in the bios16:41
Morphixi will power down and double check just to be 100%16:41
charlie-tcaI am at a loss, maybe someone with more knowledge will come along with more answers16:42
Morphixill be back in 5mins16:42
Morphixcharlie-tca: I am fool, they was both disabled in the bios, I am just glad that I took the time to double check16:45
Morphixbut thank the load its now working :D16:46
Morphixthank you for your help16:46
charlie-tcaYou are welcome16:47
charlie-tcaGlad you found it16:47
Morphixthis channel is great I must say16:47
Morphixanyone needing help should come here first16:47
Morphix;)16:47
charlie-tcaThank you16:47
MorphixI have lots of things to get working, but I dont wish to annoy you with lots of questions16:48
charlie-tcaAs long as you are patient, it is okay to keep asking for help16:48
charlie-tcaAny of else will answer if we think we can help16:48
MorphixI am a newbie, but I have managed to make most things work, however, some of the finer detail stuff I cant workout16:49
charlie-tcaI know that feeling16:49
charlie-tcaI off to a meeting now16:49
Morphixchow for now :)16:49
Morphixty16:49
Morphixon Bindows I used Skype-Mate alongside Skype in order to use my VOIP phone work with Skype, however,  on ubuntu I can install Skype without a problem, but there doesnt appear to be a skype-mate for ubuntu16:50
Morphixis there anyway I can use my USB telbox on ubuntu with skype?16:50
charlie-tca!voip16:51
ubottuVoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX.16:51
MorphixUSB telbox is a simple PSTN to USB converter, which converters any PTSN phone to a USB VOIP phone16:51
MorphixSkype is easy, however, a Ubuntu equivalent of Skype-Mate is the problem16:52
charlie-tcaubuntu skype-mate16:53
Morphixis there one of those?16:53
Morphixapparently so16:54
Morphixsudo apt-get install skype skypemate16:56
MorphixPackage skype is not available, but is referred to by another package.16:56
charlie-tcaTry ekiga instead16:59
charlie-tcaskype works, ekiga is supposed to be similar to skypemate16:59
Morphixis there a kinda skypemate for that or something alike that will allow my VOIP phone to work?16:59
Morphixaye ok17:00
Morphixlet me try that17:00
Morphixnice "Need to get 37.5MB of archives" lol17:02
MorphixNWcan I register my nick on here so I can keep it permenately?17:10
charlie-tca!register17:10
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:10
charlie-tcawell!17:11
MorphixNWty ill read and reg17:12
charlie-tcaYou are welcome17:12
MorphixNWty charlie-tca I am now registered I believe17:16
charlie-tcaGreat!17:17
MorphixNWI will frequent this channel and contrib where possible17:18
charlie-tcaWe welcome any help here.17:19
MorphixNW:)17:20
MorphixNWits been years since I used IRC properly17:20
MorphixNWalthough I used to little else lol17:21
charlie-tcaIt will come back. It just takes time17:21
MorphixNWit all seems fimilar once someone points me in the right direction17:21
charlie-tcaheh, we can do that17:21
MorphixNWI couldnt even workout how to join a channel lol17:21
MorphixNW"/join" seemed too simple to forget once I worked it out hahaha17:21
charlie-tca+117:22
MorphixNWhow many bosses so to speak are there on this channel?17:22
charlie-tcaThere are usually three or four channel ops around.17:22
MorphixNWsounds good17:23
MorphixNWI dont like there being too many tbh17:23
charlie-tcaWe try to let it be self-policing, as much as possible17:23
MorphixNWthats a very good way of working IMHO17:23
MorphixNWgod only know what network/channel I used to use, but it has been maybe 5yrs :P17:24
DBeetsHow would I go about setting my default browser without using the xfce settings manager?17:26
DBeetsI'm having trouble getting chrome set as default17:26
MorphixNWCant you do that within the browsers preferences?17:26
MorphixNWI am sure thats how I did it17:26
DBeetswell when I start chrome it asks to be set as default and when I say yes it apparently doesn't take17:27
MorphixNWtry doing it within the preferences17:28
DBeetsI tried setting it in the settings manager but that doesn't take either17:28
MorphixNWsee if that makes a difference17:28
MorphixNWcould remove the other browser?17:28
DBeetsThe thing is the other browser isn't installed. I copied my /user folder from another machine and now it wants to use chromium17:29
MorphixNWhmmm17:30
charlie-tcaYou can't use xfce settings manager?17:30
MorphixNWpossibly remove the "chromium" reference from the said folder, otherwise I am unsure but someone will help17:30
DBeetscharlie-tca: no, I tried manually entering /usr/bin/google-chrome in the preferred applications setting but it doesn't take17:31
charlie-tcacheck in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml for anything that might be setting it?17:32
charlie-tcaAlso look in ~/.cache maybe? just guessing, but those two files control most of the settings17:34
MorphixNWI have installed ekiga in order to try and make my VOIP phone work,, Ekiga does seem to work fine and it does detect my phone, however, its not the skype client I was expecting?18:15
MorphixNWreading forums suggests that Ubuntu does not support VOIP phones too well if at all, I really hope this is not the case18:19
charlie-tcaI don't know. I don't use one18:19
MorphixNWits a must for me18:20
MorphixNWskype works fine18:20
MorphixNWhows about a touchscreen on Ubuntu?18:23
dr4c4nMorphixNW woooo... wacom?18:24
* dr4c4n droolz...18:24
MorphixNWdt4cn: excuse me?18:24
dr4c4nyou said hows about a touchscreen on Ubuntu... imagine running ubuntu on the new wacom touchscreen18:24
dr4c4nI was just dreaming18:25
dr4c4n:)18:25
MorphixNWhahaha :)18:25
MorphixNWwell the touch seems to be recognised, however, it badly needs calibrating18:25
MorphixNWis there a package to do this?18:25
dr4c4nMorphixNW: calibration of touch screen package, none that I know of that does it automatically18:25
dr4c4none sec.. I'll check my sources..18:25
MorphixNWmanually?18:25
dr4c4nts_calibrate?18:26
MorphixNWdo i need to install that?18:27
dr4c4nor elotouchscreen18:27
dr4c4nI would assume so, you can try them out18:27
dr4c4nthe other one I've found with rudimentary skillz18:27
MorphixNWE: Unable to locate package ts_calibrate18:27
MorphixNWE: Unable to locate package ts_calibrate18:27
dr4c4nis evtouch_current18:28
MorphixNWE: Unable to locate package elotouchscreen18:28
dr4c4nhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/ts_calibrate.1.html18:28
MorphixNWapt-get install evtouch* worked18:28
dr4c4n:)18:29
dr4c4nI just searched the forums, and rudimentary google search18:29
dr4c4nso what is this touchscreen that you're calibrating?18:29
dr4c4nis it a wacom?18:29
dr4c4nI <3 the new wacom's18:29
dr4c4ngah.. /me droolz18:29
MorphixNWgod knows, its branded RichPOS18:29
dr4c4noh now.. I'm dreaming again18:29
MorphixNWFEC18:29
dr4c4nRichPOS FEC - ooh a part of a Point of sale system?18:30
dr4c4nnow that's kewl stuff..18:30
MorphixNWit was yes18:30
dr4c4nwha.. cool18:30
MorphixNWwould be if it would work lol18:30
MorphixNWworks fine on Bindows18:30
dr4c4nlol18:30
dr4c4nwindoze...18:30
MorphixNWMicrosucks yeah18:30
dr4c4noh all hail the proprietary drivers..18:30
MorphixNWthe drivers are working on here I think18:31
MorphixNWjust off calibration18:31
dr4c4nexcuse me a moment, while I record all the customers debit and credit card numbers18:31
dr4c4nlol18:31
dr4c4nsweet :)18:31
MorphixNW;)18:31
MorphixNWI install that evtouch18:31
MorphixNWbut no idea how to use it lol18:31
dr4c4nlol18:31
MorphixNWnothing in the apps menu18:31
dr4c4nman evtouch18:31
dr4c4ncmd line?18:31
dr4c4nperhaps18:31
MorphixNWno man entry18:32
MorphixNWevtouch: command not found18:32
dr4c4ncrudites18:32
dr4c4none sec18:32
MorphixNW?18:32
MorphixNWok18:32
dr4c4nsearching for stuff is fun on the train18:33
MorphixNWhaha something to do at least18:33
dr4c4nexcept I'm sharing all my bandwidth with all of these other people running windoze18:33
dr4c4nand os X18:33
dr4c4nit's fun to see what everyone has in their shared folder18:33
dr4c4nfor the first half hour18:33
dr4c4nthen it's kinda boring18:33
dr4c4nstill doing the search one sec18:34
MorphixNWlmfao loving it mate18:34
scifihi, yesterday i moved the default panel from the top of the screen to the bottom, today when i logged on the panel is still at the bottom, but the applications, places etc menus have gone!! how do i get them back???18:34
charlie-tcaAdd them using "add to panel"18:34
charlie-tcathe menu will be named xfce menu, but is the same as applications18:35
dr4c4nMorphixNW: http://www.nextabyte.com/support/touchscreen/Touchscreen_HowTo.pdf ?? perhaps this might help18:35
dr4c4noops 404 one sec.18:35
MorphixNWty let me try that18:35
MorphixNWoh no18:35
dr4c4nhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-447535.html18:35
MorphixNWty18:35
dr4c4nthere's an sh script on there..18:36
dr4c4nalso touchkit? for linux?18:36
MorphixNW404 on the sh script18:36
dr4c4nhttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mandriva-linux/86066-touchscreen-calibration.html18:37
scificharlie-tca: thx thats what i was looking for, altho like u say its got a different name, also need to find the 'places' menu18:37
charlie-tcaright-click the word xfce, left-click properties and change the name to Applications18:37
scificharlie-tca: yeh, just worked that out, cheers tho :)18:38
charlie-tcaplaces is the same thing, add to panel, places18:38
dr4c4nMorphixNW: any luck?18:39
dr4c4nMorphixNW: also there has to be some documentation on that first thing you downloaded and installed somewhere.. ubuntu forums is a good spot, you can also try googling the name of the package too :D18:39
DeddlyI'm having an audio problem. Sound playback is crackly, popping at best (sometimes just a buzz when I change settings in Mixer). The computer is an IBM Thinkpad T-22. Xubuntu 10.04 LTS. DSL works fine though. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?18:40
MorphixNWphone call mate hang on18:42
dr4c4nMorphixNW: np18:43
scificant seem to get them to move to left side of panel even tho i have it set there :/18:43
charlie-tcaadd a spacer or separater to the panel18:45
eaglewatchHi, why the UNlock button does not work in my Xubuntu 9.10?18:46
charlie-tcayou have an Unlock button?18:47
TheSheepeaglewatch: what's that?18:47
dr4c4nI want one18:47
scifithx,  but i think it was because i had them set to fixed position ;/18:47
eaglewatchdr4c4n, if i try to change the date for example I have to unlock it...18:48
eaglewatchok?18:48
dr4c4neaglewatch: ah, so this unlock button was added when you upgraded? or it is just there? I've never seen an unlock button18:49
TheSheepeaglewatch: you mean in system settings?18:50
TheSheepeaglewatch: how exactly it 'doesn't work'?18:50
eaglewatchdr4c4n, yes... in the system setting18:50
TheSheepeaglewatch: any error message?18:50
eaglewatchdr4c4n, if I click--- NO ACTION :(18:50
scificharlie-tca: thx for the help, still not QUITE right, gonna close xchat a min...18:50
MorphixNWdr4c4n: I am still struggling18:50
eaglewatchdr4c4n: if I click--- NO ACTION :(18:51
charlie-tcaTheSheep must be wearing the invisibility cloak today? ;-)18:51
MorphixNWdr4c4n: dw about me, sort the others out, Ill still be here18:52
eaglewatchdr4c4n,any idea?18:59
dr4c4nhave you tried right clicking / changing whatever setting that you are trying to change18:59
dr4c4n?18:59
dr4c4nbarring that, have you looked in the log files for any error messages?19:00
eaglewatchdr4c4n, how can I do?19:00
dr4c4nI used 9.10 for a while (when it came out) the only lock / unlock I remember wasn't a part of the actual XFCE interface19:00
dr4c4nwell try right clicking on the unlock button to authenticate??19:00
dr4c4nor what are you trying to do?19:01
eaglewatchright click-> no actiom19:01
dr4c4nare you trying to change the clock or settings, and it's not unlocking for you?19:01
eaglewatchcorrect19:01
charlie-tcatried left-clicking it?19:01
eaglewatchand also LOGIN SCREEN19:01
dr4c4nyou are on the login screen?19:01
eaglewatchcharlie-tca,  sure19:01
dr4c4ngood one charlie-tca19:01
eaglewatchno.. i try to changelogin screen setting (i am already in my desktop)19:02
* charlie-tca just thinking that right-click almost nevers does what he wants19:02
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: that's because some evil gnome always changes your right click settings right before you use it19:03
dr4c4n;)19:03
dr4c4nchange login screen setting, and it's asking for authentication / there's a lock / unlock button there correct?19:03
eaglewatchdr4c4n, so? I have no idea...19:03
eaglewatchdr4c4n, yes you are right :)19:03
dr4c4neaglewatch: uno momento.. looking up this is xubuntu 9.10 correct?19:03
eaglewatchdr4c4n, yes19:04
dr4c4neaglewatch: have u read this forum post: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1308700&rct=j&q=xubuntu%209.10%20change%20login%20screen%20setting%20lock%20unlock%20button&ei=MBEJTeKmLcrGswbom5WUAw&usg=AFQjCNG-hGOYo6Eq22QknpM8QMYvfUIrQA19:04
eaglewatchnot yet19:05
dr4c4nperhaps might be an idea, depends on what you want to do with that login screen, but I think it might point you in the right direction :)19:05
eaglewatchah ok....19:06
eaglewatchthanks a lot19:06
eaglewatchnow I read ok?19:06
dr4c4neaglewatch: best of luck, you should try the latest version ! :)19:06
eaglewatchok19:07
eaglewatch:)19:07
eaglewatchciaoooo!19:07
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: we should write a gnome-do wrapper for all of your right click functionalities :) and call it evil-gnome19:08
charlie-tcadon't really think we need it. Besides, there are many changes coming in xfce4.819:09
dr4c4nwas making a funny ;) but that's alright :) Looking forward to the next version19:10
charlie-tcaNext version is way more fun to try and make things work! ;-)19:10
Guest44846hey guys i just installed xubuntu and i can't see my other drives19:10
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: next version is way more fun to break, and then try to make things work :)19:11
Guest44846-freebird19:11
charlie-tcadr4c4n: that too! :-)19:11
charlie-tcaGuest44846: are they linux drives or windows drives?19:11
Guest44846does anyone know how to fix this issue19:11
Guest44846both19:12
Guest448463 drives 2 windows and 1 linux19:12
charlie-tcaI would guess you have to mount them19:12
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: it's like getting holiday presents and randomly plugging them in to see if they'll play nicely with the latest version of xubuntu...19:12
charlie-tcaheh19:12
charlie-tca!samba | Guest4484619:12
ubottuGuest44846: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.19:12
dr4c4nah with the mounting, and the chrooting19:13
Guest44846how can i mount them they aren't seen even in ect/media19:13
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: where do you get a list of these nice preformatted messages?19:13
dr4c4nGuest44846: check ur dmesg to see what device your hard drive is, then you need to know your partition table info19:13
dr4c4nguest44846: fdisk will help, but be careful not to change the partition table, just find out what they are named19:14
charlie-tcadr4c4n: I get them from http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi19:14
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: thx -- will peruse at my leisure19:14
charlie-tcaDon't need all of them, there are only a few I use19:15
Guest44846great i didn't think i would have a issue with the drives not showing so i didn't pay attention to the drive tables19:15
Guest44846ok fdisk  got ya19:15
MorphixNWdr4c4n: for what it worth I dont think Ill bother with this touchscreen19:15
dr4c4nGuest44846: yeah, it's not such a big deal, you can look at it now while either on livecd or in your ubuntu install :)19:15
dr4c4nMorphixNW: oh noez, don't give up now!!!19:16
dr4c4nif ur going to put windows back on it, and somehow use it that's cool19:16
dr4c4nif it's going to the dump.. u could mail it to me ;)19:16
MorphixNWit would be nice, but jeez this one seems hard19:16
MorphixNWlmfao19:16
MorphixNWneither, sticking with ubuntu, but just not using the touch part of the screen19:16
charlie-tcaMorphixNW: maybe you need wine for that part of things19:16
charlie-tca!wine19:17
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:17
Guest44846i ussually run ubuntu instead but looking for another alternitive before they screw it up by taking away the gnome interface19:17
dr4c4nnothing is too hard..19:17
dr4c4nyes, was going to suggest wine, and then see if you can see the underlying commands to have it working in windows19:17
dr4c4nguest44846: that doesn't necessarily screw it up19:17
dr4c4nyou can install gnome :D19:17
dr4c4nif u really wantz it19:17
Guest44846lol i have no ideal how to19:18
charlie-tcaGuest44846: Xubuntu and Xfce don't make it quite as easy to configure. But you can make more changes with it, too. ;-)19:18
MorphixNWIf I cant run it natively then I wont use the touch at all19:18
charlie-tcaYou can also use "classic desktop" session at login instead of unity in Ubuntu19:18
dr4c4nMorphixNW: awe... too soon gave up too soon! :) you can doooo it19:18
MorphixNWyour right dt4c4n but for today ;)19:19
dr4c4nMorphixNW: seems like a holiday project to me19:19
dr4c4n:D19:19
MorphixNWit will bug me until it works19:19
Guest44846btw how do i cange my name in here to something other than guest19:19
dr4c4nMorphixNW: now that's the spirit19:19
dr4c4nGuest44846: depends on ur irc client19:19
charlie-tca!nick | Guest4484619:19
ubottuGuest44846: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with Freenode.19:19
MorphixNWdr4c4n: right now I would much prefer to make my VOIP phone work with skype19:19
charlie-tcaWell, at least this part - use /nick newnick19:20
Guest44846ty19:20
dr4c4ncharlie-tca has got the factoids down pat :)19:20
Guest44846!nick freebird19:20
charlie-tcaTook me two years to learn that one19:20
dr4c4nMorphixNW: good luck with that :) you'll get it I'm sure19:20
charlie-tcaGuest44846: / instead of !19:20
MorphixNWI need a ubuntu equivalent to skypemate19:20
dr4c4nMorphixNW: I want to figure out how to install and setup an asterix box19:20
=== Guest44846 is now known as freebird
MorphixNWwhich interfaces the VOIP phone with skype19:21
freebirdty that worked19:21
MorphixNWthat I can do :P19:21
charlie-tcaw00t! You did it :-)19:21
MorphixNWFreePBX is awesome19:21
dr4c4nMorphixNW: not to mention a whole bunch of other side projects that I want to work on too, but I first have to finish my current "Project"19:21
MorphixNWlol I have lots too19:21
freebirdhow would i switch interfaces when the new ubuntu comes out back to gnome19:21
MorphixNWdr4c4n: like a linux powered CCTV system19:22
dr4c4noh boy I'm going to go offline in about 1/2 hour19:22
dr4c4noooh sweet19:22
dr4c4n:D19:22
dr4c4nthere's a really awesome linux program for doing security cam setups19:22
MorphixNWand a door lock release Ubuntu controlled of course ;)19:22
dr4c4none sec.. lemme find that link..19:22
charlie-tcafreebird: just add it to Xubuntu using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop19:22
dr4c4ngah.. rfid lock19:22
dr4c4nwant !19:22
charlie-tcaThen you pick the session you want when you login19:22
freebirdty charlie you guys are great ty for allowing me to ask noob questions .19:23
dr4c4nMorphixNW: Zoneminder19:23
charlie-tcaThat's why we are here19:23
MorphixNWno such thing as noobs, just beginners :)19:23
MorphixNWdr4c4n: I had trouble with the hardware, the software was easy :)19:24
dr4c4nMorphixNW: nice :)19:24
* charlie-tca figured it was "people with knowledge, and those who want to have that knowledge"19:24
MorphixNWI have a 4port S-VIDEO card, but I couldnt make it work19:24
freebirdlol i'm good at both ussually but its the cmds i can't figure out19:24
dr4c4nyes you could.. you made it work right :)19:25
dr4c4nno such thing as can't make it work19:25
dr4c4nunfortunately it's just the amount of time it takes to find out how to make it work19:25
MorphixNWvery true19:25
dr4c4nfreebird: feel welcome, be polite in asking questions, and people are open to helping others :)19:26
MorphixNWdr4c4n: dont you need to go offline? lol19:26
dr4c4nMorphixNW: as I said 1/2 hour :D19:27
dr4c4nI have another 1/2 hour before I get to my destination on the train19:27
dr4c4nuntil then ur stuck w/ me19:27
MorphixNWhahaha sounds good19:27
MorphixNWany chance of some assistance with this skypemate thing?19:27
dr4c4nskype and the voip phone ?19:27
freebirdi have noticed lol i like the support better for xbuntu better than for ubuntu i spent 2 hours trying to get someone to answer my question in ubuntu irc and first 5 min yall had answered several19:27
MorphixNW:)19:28
dr4c4nfreebird: don't tell our secrets to anyone19:28
MorphixNWjust send them to this channel ;)19:28
charlie-tcait is only because #ubuntu has so many users in the channel. We are much smaller here19:28
dr4c4nMorphixNW: no no no :D don't do it, don't go there :) lol (just kidding)19:29
MorphixNW:P19:29
dr4c4nok the skype voip phone19:29
MorphixNWyes please19:29
dr4c4nsip software?19:29
MorphixNW"lsusb" shows "Bus 003 Device 003: ID 6993:b001 Yealink Network Technology Co., Ltd. VoIP Phone"19:29
MorphixNWI wanna be able to use it with skype19:29
dr4c4nyes perhaps you need to link it using some sort of sip software19:30
freebirdLol even thou i don't like the x versoin as much due to a few issues i'll probaly switch for the fact i can get help if i do need it and the few things i know how to fix i might be able to help others19:30
MorphixNWekiga?19:30
dr4c4nMorphixNW: http://www.nch.com.au/skypetosip/ - this looks like a commercial solution19:30
MorphixNWdr4c4n: ekiga does recognise the phone, however, how does one link that to skype?19:30
dr4c4nMorphixNW: i'm sure there's gotta be FOSS software somewhere that does something similar19:31
MorphixNWmust be one would think19:31
MorphixNWdr4c4n: that "uplink" software is win32?19:32
dr4c4nMorphixNW: yes but as you can see, it can do the connection.. you just need to find the open source alternative19:32
dr4c4n:)19:32
MorphixNW;)19:32
MorphixNWgoogle it is :P19:32
dr4c4nMorphixNW: if it exists for windoze one hopes there's something in FOSS, as I said above19:33
MorphixNWwell skypemate is an app that links the phone to skype, however, skypemate is not FOSS19:33
dr4c4nah, well then it should have tech support19:35
MorphixNWmaybe this http://zhink.com/site/main/index.php/20071022skype-to-sip-gateway-personal-edition/19:35
dr4c4nlol ;) (just kidding)19:35
dr4c4num. you can try it19:35
dr4c4nI was just thinking that is how you would link it19:35
MorphixNWit claims to be a sip to skype gateway19:35
freebirdonce i get gnome installed i have to reboot to make it take changes?19:36
dr4c4notherwise there should be more information on how to connect your voip phone to skype directly, on their site or some such thing..19:36
dr4c4nfreebird: most likely19:36
freebirdty dr4c4n19:36
MorphixNWoh no no, its a tar.gz19:36
dr4c4nfreebird: generally when doing systemwide changes, it's a good idea to reboot :)19:36
dr4c4nfreebird: your computer will thank you for it19:37
dr4c4nMorphixNW: ah, well then.. time to extract, make and make install somewhere ur not afraid to break something :)19:37
freebird:P yeah i learned that with windows and ubuntu19:37
dr4c4nwindoze... oh brother..19:38
MorphixNWdr4c4n, there is no make file19:38
freebirdyeah been a computer tech for 10 years and supported winblows19:38
MorphixNWfreebird: ditto19:38
dr4c4nMorphixNW: how does it ask u to compile? ./configure? it should be in the readme19:39
MorphixNWthere is no readme lol19:39
freebirdthat is part of the reason i have started using linux i wanted a challenge something i didn't know inside and out19:39
dr4c4noooh lulz.. baaad baad programmers..19:39
MorphixNWno ./configure either19:40
dr4c4nfreebird: I got frustrated with having to clean out my computer every three months.. which I do now every six when the new released version comes out19:40
MorphixNWcrap thing19:40
dr4c4nlol19:40
dr4c4nMorphixNW: link?19:40
MorphixNWhttp://zhink.com/site/main/index.php/20071022skype-to-sip-gateway-personal-edition/19:40
dr4c4nlulz19:40
freebirdlol spyware? adware ? viruses?dr4c4n19:41
dr4c4ndid u read the adverts on the top of that page...19:41
MorphixNWhahahahaha19:41
MorphixNWhave now19:41
dr4c4nMorphixNW: check out sippyskype19:42
dr4c4nyuck.. some ppl should learn how to design websites... just like learning how to write powerpoint presentations.. this is pretty damn ugly19:43
dr4c4nhttp://www.bloged.co.uk/archives/001839.php19:43
dr4c4nsomeone give me a shot of decent brain thinkage19:43
MorphixNWseconded19:43
MorphixNWEpson SX115 on Ubuntu with scanner working19:44
MorphixNW;)19:44
freebirdhow do i change font color or talk directly to the person in chat here19:44
MorphixNWprinter is easy, albeit slow to actually begin printing19:44
dr4c4nMorphixNW: congrats :)19:45
MorphixNWbut simple-scan doesnt see the scanner19:45
freebirdwhat type of printer is it19:45
MorphixNWEPSON SX115 all-in-one19:45
freebirdhttp://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=06c040711e1b1db2adc834b10a35e5e6&t=1340875   might help you19:49
MorphixNWfreebird: ty19:49
freebirdnp bro i have had my far share of issues in ubuntu with our 4 wireless all in one printers19:50
freebirdpulled my hair out for a week trying to fix all of them19:50
MorphixNWfreebird: it seems from that link that its possible to make the scanner work or the printer, but not both together19:51
freebirdsorry bro i'll see if i can find a solution for you i'm waiting on gnome to install anyway19:52
MorphixNWdont worry, no rush19:52
MorphixNWwould be nice to have, but not a problem19:52
freebirdhow do you make your text to me red19:52
MorphixNWthis VOIP thing is the thing on my brain rightnow19:52
dr4c4nfreebird: enter in the name of the person19:52
dr4c4nMorphixNW: has VOIP on the brain19:53
dr4c4nMorphixNW: it's a condition really19:53
dr4c4n:D19:53
MorphixNWdr4c4n: Bahaha I didnt even know that I was doing that lol19:53
charlie-tcafreebird: it also depends the irc client. Xchat assigns colors on its own19:53
freebirdany / before the name of the person19:53
MorphixNWis xchat the best one for ubuntu?19:53
freebirdi'm using the defualt xchat19:53
dr4c4nMorphixNW: yeah, you just like to make things more ostentatious19:53
dr4c4nMorphixNW: it's personal preference really19:54
MorphixNWI like to understand :)19:54
charlie-tcayes, depending on how many channels you use and how much you use IRC19:54
MorphixNWjust this one and lots of late :P19:54
charlie-tcaand there is a difference between Xchat and Xchat-gnome19:54
dr4c4nMorphixNW: for example another project I want to figure out how to use IRSSI19:54
MorphixNWnever heard for it19:55
charlie-tcaI have 20 or more channels open all the time19:55
MorphixNWguessing its an RSS reader for a sort?19:55
freebirdxchat is a lighterweight package compared to xchat-gnome right?19:55
charlie-tcaIRSSI is an IRC client you use in terminal19:55
MorphixNWnice19:56
MorphixNWwould be good on my donkey19:56
MorphixNWspare machine I plan to use to do all the work, downloading etc19:56
dr4c4nMorphixNW: you have an ass19:56
MorphixNWlmfao19:56
MorphixNWI dooooo19:56
dr4c4nsweet!19:57
charlie-tcafreebird: xchat is the original application. xchat-gnome was built from it19:57
freebirdreally lol thats cool whats his name ?19:57
MorphixNWits not setup yet19:57
MorphixNWbut the machine is ready to rock19:57
charlie-tcalanguage | dr4c4n19:57
charlie-tca!language | dr4c4n19:57
ubottudr4c4n: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional..19:57
MorphixNWhowever, I have a complete POS Terminal, its a PC complete with all the normal bits plus some extras, I plan to install ubuntu onto it and its own touchscreen, I would really love to make it work with all the bits19:57
freebirdlol the bot warned you19:57
MorphixNW:P19:58
MorphixNWdont use **** either it busts you on that one lol19:58
freebirdlol19:58
dr4c4nfreebird: in red too! I apologize, it was in reference to the donkey, I wonder what they would say about my dog19:58
charlie-tcathey would tell you not to say that anymore19:58
MorphixNWlmfao, I norice what dr4c4n meant, but the bot isnt that clever :P19:58
dr4c4ncharlie-tca: isn't a bot19:59
freebirddr4c4n they will probaly bust you as well19:59
MorphixNWno but ubotu is19:59
dr4c4nI assume so, but know this .. that wasn't a bot19:59
MorphixNWanywho20:00
dr4c4nyes but ubottu was instantiated by a human20:00
dr4c4ntherefore. not a bot20:00
dr4c4nbut in any case.. I laughed.. it was a joke20:00
MorphixNWcan anyone advise of the best ubuntu system to install on this low spec POS Terminal I have?20:00
freebirdlol20:00
MorphixNW256MB RAM20:00
dr4c4npuppy linux!20:00
MorphixNWubuntu?20:00
dr4c4nalthough they have a horrible package manager on full install20:00
freebirddsl= damn small linux20:01
charlie-tcaMorphixNW: Xubuntu or Lubuntu20:01
MorphixNWwhich ever would be best for a lower spec'd machine20:01
charlie-tcaor, if you don't need the GUI, use server edition20:01
dr4c4nLubuntu.. am googling that now20:01
charlie-tcaLubuntu uses about 30% fewer resources than Xubuntu20:01
MorphixNWcharlie-rca: ty20:01
MorphixNWbut what about eeexubuntu?20:02
dr4c4noh boy.. that's what I should have installed on that old pentium 3 ..20:02
charlie-tcaI think that is proprietary to eee pcs, but am not sure20:02
MorphixNWold p3? would make a decent machine :P20:02
charlie-tcaold p3? that is what this is20:03
MorphixNWcharlie-tca: i know its for low specs, but I am with you20:03
charlie-tcaI thought eeexubuntu was discontinued, but maybe not20:03
MorphixNWlinux brings back to life what once would be considered crap if you have Microsucks Bindows on it20:03
dr4c4ndoh. I recently did an installation for an elderly woman, putting puppy linux on it, unfortunately after installing to the machine, the package manager would return all status 200 ok when testing the urls, but it wouldn't download the information or install the packages.. highly annoying20:03
MorphixNWlinux for an old lady?20:04
dr4c4nand weird thing was, all installations while running from the live cd worked.20:04
MorphixNWmy granny cant even use her mobile properly20:04
dr4c4nMorphixNW: lol, my mom can't even use her computer properly, this elderly lady knew she just wanted the google and the email20:04
Arpad2hello20:04
dr4c4nhello arpad220:04
dr4c4nI gotta pack up now20:05
dr4c4narriving at station, talk to y'all l8rz20:05
MorphixNWdr4c4n: chow for now then20:05
freebirdbrb gotta reboot20:05
MorphixNWthanks for your help20:05
Arpad2how to install this driver? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.29-driver.html20:05
charlie-tcain what version, Arpad220:06
Arpad2?20:06
charlie-tcawhat release of xubuntu?20:07
Arpad210.1020:07
charlie-tcait will probably break it20:07
charlie-tca!nvidia20:07
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:07
Arpad2what does it mean "break it" ?20:07
Arpad2i.e. won't work ?20:08
charlie-tcameans you get to keep the mess after trying to install it, and might have to reinstall xubuntu to make it work again20:08
Arpad2ok20:08
Arpad2I'm mean its not ok20:08
charlie-tcanvidia changed their installer, and it was breaking 10.10 real bad a few months back20:09
charlie-tcamaybe it is fixed, maybe not20:09
Arpad2ok, I will look into the link you gave20:10
MorphixNWok specs: Celeron 1200, 256mb, 2xHDD slots (I have many drives that can be used), what would run the best?20:10
charlie-tcaneeds the gui?20:11
MorphixNWhmmm20:11
MorphixNWwell not exactly worked out what I plan to do with it yet20:11
MorphixNWonly that I want to use it and it must be linux20:11
charlie-tcaDoesn't need the gui, install Ubuntu Server on it20:12
charlie-tcaNeeds the gui, going to be slow with Xubuntu, but can use one application at a time.20:12
MorphixNWit is possible to use ubuntu desktop headless and reinstall the head if I so choose?20:12
charlie-tcaLubuntu without adding to it is usable20:12
charlie-tcayes20:12
MorphixNWwould that improve the speed?20:13
charlie-tcabut desktop will be slow20:13
MorphixNWbut what would I use a headless system for?20:13
charlie-tcaDesktop is GUI, so it wouldn't be ideal.20:13
MorphixNWok different question, why would I want a machine without a gui? are there many uses?20:14
charlie-tcaI use headless for a server here. I keep all my data on it, and use it for an internet router with a firewall20:14
MorphixNWhmmmm20:14
MorphixNWsmoothwall20:14
charlie-tcaIt serves as my data server, print server, firewall, and router20:14
MorphixNW?20:14
MorphixNWsounds good20:15
MorphixNWgeeky but very good and fun20:15
MorphixNWI am a super geek afterall, just never used linux as much as I would like20:15
charlie-tcaThat way I don't need a GUI on it, and I do run up to 10 systems at a time here20:15
MorphixNWwow20:15
MorphixNWspecs?20:15
knomehaving a server is not geeky, remembering it all from your head is geeky20:16
charlie-tca866MHz, 512MB ram, P320:16
MorphixNWhmmm the CPU in this POS Term is 1200 but its a celeron20:16
charlie-tcaWith equal ram it would be fast with xubuntu20:16
MorphixNWonly 25620:17
MorphixNWit uses SODIMM20:17
charlie-tcaas a server it would work great20:17
charlie-tcaHello, knome20:17
MorphixNWfile server?20:17
charlie-tcasure20:17
rappihi everybody, im new in irc and to xubuntu20:17
knomehey charlie-tca20:18
charlie-tca!hi | rappi20:18
ubotturappi: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!20:18
MorphixNWaint that hard to config?20:18
charlie-tcaDepends on how hard you make it.20:18
MorphixNWlol20:18
MorphixNWwell i would like simplicity at least to start20:18
MorphixNWas this is all alien to me20:18
rappii spent the whole day to get my wlan to run, but i cant find anything in forums which helps20:19
charlie-tcaThrow dnsmasq on it, I build the iptables myself for the firewall, and I use nfs and ssh-fuse for the files to keep it simple20:19
rappimaybe someone have some minutes, and gibe  me some guidance?20:19
MorphixNWthink ill setup my web server first and be sure that it goes smoothly20:19
charlie-tcawlan will take someone else to step in. I can't make them work20:20
MorphixNWnor me20:20
MorphixNWalthough I managed it with Windows Drivers installed and a Linksys usb WLAN20:21
freebirdquestion what kind of card are you using with your wlan20:21
freebirdare you trying to setup a network on your wlan or trying to get it to connect to the internet ?20:22
rappiNetwork controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)20:22
rappithe problem is that i cant connect to my network20:23
rappineither with wpa encryption nor without one20:23
MorphixNWdid you test it with all the security disabled?20:23
rappiyes20:23
freebirdyour network includes windows vista and/or win7 right?20:24
rappii disabled it on the router20:24
rappiafterwards i typed iwconfig20:24
MorphixNWtry using wicd20:24
MorphixNWsudo apt-get install wicd20:24
MorphixNWworked fo rme20:24
rappii not sure if i get you right freebird, i have an win xp pc in the network and a dualboot with vista20:25
freebirdrappi can you see the winxp vista you have to change the user group on the vista machine20:26
freebirdi may be happen to get it to work if he can see his winxp machine20:27
freebirdable*20:27
rappi@freebird: sry again, im not quite sure what you mean. i should change the user group on the win xp machine? please note that this pc is a connected by wire20:27
freebird@rappi ok is your winxp up now ? I noticed you said  it was a duel-boot system20:29
rappioh, i have a dualboot with vista, im currently up with xubuntu via wired network. the win xp pc which is also in the network is also up20:30
freebirdi'm assuming that you have samba installed on ubuntu20:31
rappinot yet20:32
rappicurrently i just want to get my wireless to connect to the router20:32
rappimaybe i try to explain my problem more in detail?20:33
freebirdok i understand i was not on the same page bro sorry20:33
rappi:), i have a more or less new installation of 10.1020:33
rappii now try to get access to the network and so on, via wireless.20:34
rappiwicd is installed20:34
freebirdif you click the icon near the clock  that looks like a wireless signal it may also  look like 2 arrows 1 up and 1 down20:35
rappii already deinstalled network manager20:35
rappibecause i read in a forum that it is confusing ^^20:35
rappibut when i had installed nm, i saw my network20:35
freebirdok20:36
rappido you want a dmesg of the connection process?20:36
MorphixNWremove nm and install wicd instead20:36
rappidone20:36
rappi:)20:36
MorphixNWdoes it show wireless networks?20:36
freebirdgood cause i wouldn't be able to figure it out unless you had it installed lol i'm new also to ubuntu20:36
freebirdi love this irc support when so many are so helpful20:37
rappiyes wiced can see my network, please note that i currently wpa is active20:37
MorphixNWso the card is working fine at least20:38
rappitrue, it is very kind to help noobs like me, also im aware that my english is not the best, sry for that in advance20:38
MorphixNWtry changing the security to WEP20:38
MorphixNWseems fine to me :P20:38
freebirdnp  your no problem at all i don't know much but i don't mind helping if i can20:40
MorphixNWrappi: you using a laptop?20:40
freebirdbrb guys20:41
MorphixNWok20:41
MorphixNWrappi has gone20:45
MorphixNWso20:45
MorphixNWcan anyone help me with a possible EPOS setup for Linux?20:45
freebirdbtw i figured out why i couldn't see my other drives on a freash install i had to open gigolo then i could see my other drives20:46
MorphixNW:P20:46
MorphixNWgigolo is the easy way20:46
MorphixNWyou can also use fstab to mount them20:47
MorphixNWinc ntfs drives20:47
freebirdmorphix i wish20:47
freebirdi could help ya but i donno how to help ya20:47
MorphixNWfreebird: with what?20:47
freebirdEPOS20:48
MorphixNWyeah20:48
MorphixNWwell would be awesome if its possible20:48
MorphixNWI am trying to develop a cheaper alternative to the EPOS systems currently on the market20:48
MorphixNWas they are very pricey20:49
freebirdyou can build your own system alot cheaper20:49
MorphixNWindeed but the software is the trick20:49
MorphixNWgetting all the required functions20:49
freebirdtrue that i'm not real fimilar with what functions is required for EPOS20:50
MorphixNWI am ;) I worked for a company called Software Solutions are an EPOS engineer20:51
MorphixNWthey sell systems for 3.2k20:51
freebirdwhat functions do they have then maybe i can help a little more lol20:51
TheSheepMorphixNW: so what problem do you have exactly?20:52
MorphixNWwell barcode reading (obvious one), stock take/count, etc20:52
MorphixNWthesheep: I dont have a problem as such, I am looking for a solution20:52
TheSheepMorphixNW: if you want to write one, just pick your favorite programming language and do it20:52
MorphixNWEPOS20:52
MorphixNWTheSheep: I wish I was a programmer I would have it done by now :P20:53
freebirdoh ok so a setup for a retail store20:53
MorphixNWyes20:53
TheSheepMorphixNW: so you are looking for progarmmers to do it for you?20:53
MorphixNWno20:53
MorphixNWI am looking for an EPOS package20:53
MorphixNWalthough I might consider outsourcing to a programmer with the required skills if needs be20:54
TheSheepI don't think there is any20:54
MorphixNWwould it be do-able for a programmer do you think?20:55
freebirdcould this help you http://www.openbravo.com/product/pos/20:55
MorphixNWlet me see :)20:55
freebirdlol20:56
TheSheepMorphixNW: not sure if this is it, but there is something called 'tryton' in the ubuntu repos20:56
TheSheepyou may give it a look20:56
MorphixNWty20:56
MorphixNWill check it out20:56
rappihi again, did you get any of my messages since "changed to WEP"?20:57
freebirdkk i hope it works for you if not search google " open source POS software20:57
MorphixNWrappi: no but did you close and re-open xchat20:57
MorphixNWfreebird: ty20:58
freebirdnope got it that time tho rappi20:58
freebirdmorpixNW np20:58
rappi i saw that in my dmesg: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 19 802.11a channels20:58
rappi<rappi> my router is setup with channel 11 802.11 b and g20:58
rappi<rappi> does it mean that i can only use channel 13 with b and g?20:58
rappi<rappi> sry lost connection20:58
rappi<rappi> cannot connect to the WEP encrypted router, wicd says bad passphrase. but i double checked it, it should be correct20:58
rappii think i lost connection by changing the encryption mode20:58
freebirdare you in US? if so channel 13 shouldn't work20:59
rappinop im in europe20:59
freebirdoh ok make since lol20:59
rappibut i also had the idea that it means the w-card can handle 13 channels with b and g mode21:00
freebirdits always a good practice if your router is pushing from 11 to set up your wlan to 11 as well21:03
freebirdwhat are the default channels in europe in US its 1 and 621:03
rappisry, i have no idea21:04
rappibut since my neigbours also using 1 and 6, i assume that ones :D21:05
rappias well21:05
freebirdok let me see if i can google it and help you with knowing the default channels   they will give you the best proformance in most cases21:06
MorphixNWfreebird: that openbravo has downloaded and I have install the .bin file21:07
freebird(1, 7, 1321:08
MorphixNWis there a shortcut key to minimise all windows?21:08
charlie-tcaMorphixNW: that little square in the bottom left panel will if you click it21:08
MorphixNWcharlie-tca: I dont have a little square21:09
freebirdUH  donno i would imagine lol but sorry i don't know the cmd other than killall but thats like hitting alt+f4 in windows over and over again21:09
charlie-tcayou have something there, to the left of the task list21:09
MorphixNW:P21:09
MorphixNWI dont21:10
freebirdwhat interface are you using gnome?21:10
MorphixNWxfce421:10
freebird@rappi (1, 7, 13 ) 1 and 7 is your primary but by default 13 is your channel21:11
rappii guess that the reason why he is in #xubuntu and not in #ubuntu ;-)21:11
charlie-tcaMorphixNW: try ctrl+Alt+d21:12
MorphixNWcharlie-tca: your a gem21:12
MorphixNWty21:12
charlie-tcaYou are welcome21:12
freebirdlol21:12
MorphixNWthat was exactly what I wanted21:12
freebirdwow i learned something as well lol21:12
rappiok, but do you think that i cant connect because i have the wrong channel?21:13
MorphixNWall the shortcut keys I learnt over the years are useless lol21:13
charlie-tcaheh21:13
rappi:D21:13
MorphixNWthere are no stupid questions :)21:13
charlie-tcayou can look in Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Window Manager, Keyboard for a list21:13
MorphixNWnice tip thank you21:14
freebirdrappi try channel 1 or 7 try to stay away from 13 ( this must be setup throu the router and wlan ) to get best proformance21:14
freebirdlol he left before i could type it21:14
freebirdrappi try channel 1 or 7 try to stay away from 13 ( this must be setup throu the router and wlan ) to get best proformance21:15
puppyI would like to thank everyone here for helping me the past two days, i finally got my system up and running21:15
MorphixNW:)21:15
puppyPuppy is not what i was on before, it was lostkid. Thank you again21:15
MorphixNWme too Puppy, I cant imagine going back to Bindows now21:15
puppyOh this is clean, though i want to customize but im having a hard time figuring a few things out. Nothing time and experance cant fix21:16
MorphixNWsometimes the best way too#21:16
puppyI do have a question, i have seen a few of my friends using backgrounds that move and i was wondering how they did that.21:17
MorphixNWseems memory hungry lol21:17
freebirdlinux has been very frusterating for me but i will never go back to winblows i love the way linux runs hate the tinkering to make things work but once it work its great better proformance and response time21:17
MorphixNWI love the way Pidgin shows you received messages in the corner even if the chat window is in the bg somewhere21:19
freebird@puppy try this it might answer your question21:19
freebirdhttp://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-create-animated-desktop-gui-ubuntu-linux-281591/21:19
freebirdlol i like pidgin but empathy has stolen me away from pidgin :P21:21
puppy@freebird thank you21:21
freebirdnp puppy21:21
puppyEmpathy is bothering me, i miss pidgin but im to lazy to reinstal it >.>21:22
freebirdlol why is it bothering you21:22
puppyIdk, just not used to it21:22
MorphixNWsudo apt-get install pidgin21:23
MorphixNWeasy21:23
freebirdthe only thing i don't like about it is it doesn't start when i reboot i want it in start up :P21:23
stanley_hi guys my panels disappeared, when I try to use the xfce4-panel command in terminal it returns a floating point exception21:23
stanley_please please help me21:24
charlie-tca!panel | stanley_21:24
ubottustanley_: Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/21:24
MorphixNWpuppy: sudo apt-get install pidgin21:24
puppyThanks morph, i thought they had gotten read of it21:25
freebirdmetacity --replace21:25
charlie-tcastanley_: try the panel command using ALT+F221:26
MorphixNWpuppy: np. I prefer kmess but for some strange reason it run on this particular install21:26
puppyill be back later,t hank you for the help. Im giong to be fiddl with this21:26
MorphixNWnp21:27
puppyIll talk to you later Morph and thanks for the info21:27
freebirdok take care puppy21:27
freebirdstanley_ did you get it fixed21:27
freebirdmorphixNW can i add you as freind21:28
MorphixNWsure thing21:29
MorphixNWyou got msn?21:29
MorphixNWpidgin etc lol21:29
freebirdum yahoo facebook and msn21:30
MorphixNWadd me to msn if you wish mr.x@datamonkeys.co.uk21:30
freebirdok have to give me a sec got to setup empathy i hope i still remember my msn password :P21:31
MorphixNWhahaha21:32
MorphixNWis there a way of showing my machines specs? kinda like system props on Bindows?21:33
puppywhy do you call it bindows? im back btw21:35
MorphixNWCos its good for the Bin ;)21:35
deddlyCan anyone help me with a crackling/popping audio problem?21:36
puppyhahahaha, i get it21:36
stanley_freebird nope did not work. panels just flash and dont actually stay up21:36
knomepuppy, MorphixNW: #xubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion, please :)21:36
MorphixNWknome: eh?21:36
knomededdly, ask and people will most probably answer, if they know the answer21:36
puppy@dedly i had that issue it turned out to be my speakers, test the speakers21:36
charlie-tcastanley_: you need to restart. Can you switch to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F2 ?21:36
knomeMorphixNW, msn, bindows & &21:36
MorphixNWirs all relevant, after all we all does had a full blown ubuntu discussion21:37
knomeMorphixNW, this is a *support* channel :)21:37
puppyMorph, lets just join that other chanel, i dont wana cause issues21:37
MorphixNWand thats what we are doing ;)21:37
MorphixNWnothing wrong with a bit of socialising as we do IMHO but if a small amount of chit chat isnt allowed then........21:38
MorphixNWIll be there21:38
MorphixNWhate ELITEST21:38
knomeMorphixNW, a word or few is okay, but since there seems to be users in need of support, i'd like to keep chitchat at minimum21:39
MorphixNWI thought we did, but heyho21:39
deddlyOK here's the issue. When playing an mp3, the cound crackles irregularly. The same mp3 worked fine under DSL (Damn Small Linux). Fiddling with the sliders in Mixer alters the severity from occasional crackle to constant buzz, where the music can't be heard at all.21:39
puppyNo fighting you two. we are here to help21:39
MorphixNWmy last msg was a support question FFS21:39
deddlycound=sound21:39
knomededdly, hmm, how much ram do you have?21:40
deddlyknome: 256 I think21:40
puppyWhat ubuntu are you running as well?21:40
knomededdly, have you looked at (h)top when playing mp3's?21:40
deddlypuppy: Xubuntu 10.04 LTS21:40
knomeMorphixNW, please remember this is a family friendly channel21:40
knomeMorphixNW, anyway, see 'lshw' in terminal21:41
deddlyknome: Uhm...sorry I don't understand that question21:41
freebirdthis may or not help you but sounds like a codec issue to me install gsteam codecs and reboot that should fix it if i'm correct21:41
knomededdly, have you looked if all your computers resources are in use when playing mp3?21:41
freebirdgstream21:42
knomegstreamer it is :)21:42
freebirdty knome21:42
MorphixNWI wont comment or I will be banned, but yes your wish is my command21:43
knomecharlie-tca, do you happen to know if PA could cause crackling/popping?21:43
freebirdi hope that works other than that i have no clue21:43
deddlyfreebird: Thanks for the tip but codecs are already installed21:43
charlie-tcait's usually alsa21:43
knomecharlie-tca, but he has 10.04 == PA21:43
deddlyknome: Oh right, where do I see that?21:43
charlie-tcaremove and reinstall alsa-utils, I think21:43
knomededdly, by running 'top' in terminal, or from applications -> system -> system monitor21:44
freebirddeddly np that was all that i know that could cause it  it could be a memory resource issue also but i can't say for sure21:44
freebirdmorphixNW i added you to msn21:45
knomeMorphixNW, just trying to help and keep the channel clear for support questions. nothing personal, really, and definitely no offense intended21:45
freebirdstanley_ did you get your panel issue fixed21:46
knomededdly, if it's not a clear installation, you could maybe try reinstalling alsa-utils, as charlie-tca suggested21:46
MorphixNWknome: come chat in offtopic21:46
deddlyknome: Hmm, it says all the memory is used up (pretty much) but that's just Ubuntu, right? I mean Ubuntu always takes the memory21:46
stanley_freebird21:46
stanley_nope, I restarted and I tried to run the panel command again21:47
deddlyknome: It's a brand new installation21:47
stanley_no luck21:47
charlie-tcastanley_: what release of Xubuntu?21:48
deddlyknome: looking down the list, CPU is maybe 11% in use (total) and 17% memory (total)21:49
stanley_10.10 I tried running the command in a terminal and still have the same issue - panels flicker then just don't come back21:49
knomededdly, parallel to playing an mp3?21:49
deddlyknome: Yes, playing as we speak21:49
charlie-tcaAre you getting the same error message in terminal?21:50
knomededdly, okay, so shouldn't be a memory issue... did you try reinstalling alsa-utils?21:50
deddlyknome: It's a brand new installation, even uninstalled and reinstalled the entire OS21:50
freebirddeddly what all have you tried before you asked in irc chat21:51
freebirdjust curious21:51
stanley_charie-tca, freebird: still getting a floating point exception21:52
freebirdstanley_ one min bro i'll look it up there is a bug in ubuntu that causes this might help its a easy fix when it happens 1 sec21:53
knomededdly, you could try uninstalling pulseaudio then. that works for some. try 'udo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio'21:53
stanley_yepp no probs thanks alot21:53
knomededdly, errm, 'sudo ...'21:54
freebirdstanley_ what happens when you alt-f2 and run xfce4-panel21:54
MorphixNWdoes anyone know of any issues adding new buddies on pidgin?21:54
knomeMorphixNW, not much else than msn servers not always working21:55
freebirdum try to add me texas_tornado_20000@hotmail.com21:55
stanley_freebird: panels flicker and never actually stay21:56
puppyfreebird, can i add you?21:56
freebirdyeah pupply you can add me if you want21:56
MorphixNWoff topic guys join #xubuntu-offtopic if you wanna share addresses etc ;)21:56
MorphixNWfreebird: I will21:56
knomeMorphixNW, ;]21:56
freebirdstanley_ go to system - preferences - startup applications.21:57
freebirdyour xfce4 panel should be in there. if it isn't, add an option for it in there and untick the gnome panels one.21:57
deddly_Lagged out, sorry21:58
deddly_Last I saw on screen was: freebird: I have messed around with the sliders in Mixer, realising that they really affect the sound a lot . from an awful buzz/screech to a mild crackling in the background. Reinstalled Xubuntu, added some lines in etc/default/grub and removed them again...21:58
stanley_freebid: ok i'll let you know what happens21:59
freebirdkk21:59
deddly_Do you think Open Sound System might help?21:59
MorphixNWoh wow cool, if you grab a window and shake it ;)22:01
MorphixNWlike vista and 7, the other windows vanish22:01
stanley_freebird: gonna sound really silly here, I am using xubuntu meerkat and my panels are not int he startup list but I also don;t know what the command is to add it to the list22:01
freebirdstanely_ me either  maybe kome does22:02
charlie-tcastanley_: the command for the panels is        xfce4-panel22:02
charlie-tcadid you go through the wiki page and remove the old configuration files for panels?22:03
deddly_OK I have to go. THanks for the help though, bye22:03
stanley_charlie-tca gonna try it and see what happens22:04
stanley_hi freebird had to restart sorry22:20
stanley_still no panels after putting them in the startup list22:21
knomeumm22:21
knome!panels22:21
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/22:21
freebirdknome i hope you have some ideals i'm out of them lol22:21
knomeerm, yeah22:21
knomestanley_, okay, do this:22:21
knomestanley_, run the panel (alt+f2 -> xfce4-panel)22:22
knomestanley_, then logout, on the logout screen select [x] save session for future logins22:22
knomestanley_, then log back in, and tell if you now have panels22:22
stanley_ok coolio22:23
stanley_freebird no panels, still just flicker than go away22:24
knomestanley_, i suppose it's some panel plugin not working then. did you add some new panel items into your panel?22:26
stanley_nope...I meam i've had the weather plugin going for a couple days22:27
stanley_is there a way to stop the plugins?22:28
freebirdkillall appname22:28
stanley_ok, I am not sure I know what the name/command of the weather plugin is, and I can't find out without the panel could one of you tell me?22:30
freebirdknome ps is that the valid cmd to find processes22:31
MorphixNWprobably, Bindows has one so22:32
knomeummh22:32
knomeyeah, ps22:32
knomeps -U yourusername | grep weather22:32
stanley_tried to kill it but terminal said its not running22:34
freebirdumm knome any ideals22:35
freebirdi'm lost at this point22:36
knomestanley_, what did the ps command i gave say?22:36
stanley_sorry I did not do it22:40
stanley_one sec22:40
stanley_nothing it just returns a new line with nothing in it22:41
knomeokay22:42
knomejust a sec22:42
knomestanley_, what does 'ps -A | grep panel' say?22:45
stanley_same thing22:46
knomestanley_, so you added panel to your autostarted applicationS?22:46
stanley_yes I did22:46
knomestanley_, i'd say: remove it from that list, and try the method i suggested earlier again22:47
stanley_also the panel option under xfce settings doesn;t work22:47
knome(run panel, logout with session saving, login)22:47
knomehmm..22:47
knomeyeah, that's not supposed to work if panel is not running22:48
knomebrb22:48
stanley_ok22:48
MorphixNWdid he get bored?22:49
MorphixNWbet he's getting out the Bindows CDS22:49
MorphixNWis it safe to remove software-centre?22:50
knomeshould be22:51
MorphixNWI am having trouble with a app not launching but no errors22:52
knomeMorphixNW, did you start it from the terminal and see if it outputs anything there?22:52
MorphixNWknome: it states java not found, which I guess answers the Q lol22:54
knomemm-hmm22:54
MorphixNWknome: ty, good tip too22:56
knomeno problem22:56
MorphixNWknome: how can I install java? apt cant find java, openjdk or icedtea23:03
knomeMorphixNW, sudo apt-get install default-jre23:04
MorphixNWknome: that worked ty23:04
knome:)23:05
freebirdsudo apt-get install wine23:26
freebirdopps sorry wrong box23:27
knome:)23:38

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