[01:40] <rbnswartz> DBO you around?
[01:41] <DBO> rbnswartz, for a minute
[01:41] <DBO> whats up?
[01:41] <rbnswartz> I need a bug to work on suggestions?
[01:41] <rbnswartz> You seem to be the person to know what needs to be done and what has been done
[01:42] <DBO> mmm
[01:42] <DBO> thinking
[01:43] <DBO> rbnswartz, are you aware of the papercuts project?
[01:43] <rbnswartz> no
[01:44] <rbnswartz> is it like bitesized
[01:44] <DBO> rbnswartz, yes
[01:44] <DBO> rbnswartz, this one is trivial, like 1 line
[01:44] <DBO> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/688592
[01:44] <DBO> uhm
[01:44] <DBO> oh and someone made a merge...
[01:44] <DBO> silly me
[01:45] <rbnswartz> well it was an easy one you said
[01:45] <DBO> hold on, still looking :)
[01:46] <DBO> rbnswartz, these are the papercuts: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=Triaged
[01:46] <DBO> they are not always to do with Unity
[01:46] <DBO> but sometimes its easier to find a contribution to make there
[01:47] <DBO> rbnswartz, you can give this one a try: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/688830
[01:47] <rbnswartz> But it would involve learning another code base
[01:47] <rbnswartz> the papercuts that is
[01:47] <rbnswartz> what file is that in
[01:48] <DBO> LauncherIcon.cpp
[01:48] <DBO> I think
[01:48] <DBO> you'll have to kind of dig around
[01:48] <rbnswartz> Okay if not I'll be back here asking questions
[01:48] <rbnswartz> I'll let you go now thanks.
[01:49] <DBO> thanks, sorry for the delay
[01:49] <DBO> been busy as hell
[01:49] <rbnswartz> no prob I'm sure you are
[01:49] <rbnswartz> cya
[09:36] <joaopinto> good morning
[09:37] <joaopinto> I am having an issue trying to port a notification area app to appindicator
[09:37] <joaopinto> the following code works as expected when triggered by the nofitication context menu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544346/
[09:38] <joaopinto> it does not when called from the appindicator menu
[09:38] <joaopinto> with the appindicator using the close button on the dialog will not destroy it
[09:38] <joaopinto> any ideas ?
[09:56] <seb128> joaopinto, it's going to be a bit difficult to get a reply, ted and others are on holidays now
[09:56] <seb128> not the best time of the year for questions
[09:56] <seb128> klattimer maybe is around and can help you?
[09:56] <seb128> or kenvandine when he wakes up later on
[09:58] <joaopinto> ok, I will try kenvandine once he wakes up, tks
[10:07] <kvalo> njpatel: hi. I updated unity yesterday and I don't see menus anymore. neither in the panel nor in firefox
[10:07] <kvalo> njpatel: if I use "classic" desktop, I can see the menus. I'm about to file a bug about this
[10:07] <njpatel> kvalo, killall unity-panel-service; /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
[10:08] <njpatel> kvalo, and then see if there are any errors
[10:08] <kvalo> njpatel: ok, I'll try that. I need to boot to natty first, so it takes some time
[10:09] <njpatel> kvalo, okay, the only other thing is that there is a lib mismatch with indicator-datetime right now, so you might need to remove it for panel service to work
[10:09] <njpatel> kvalo, it's using the old dbusmenu
[10:34] <kvalo> njpatel: ok, I'll try that first
[10:34] <kvalo> njpatel: now the session is stuck, only mouse pointer moves. what's an easy way to restart everything without rebooting?
[10:36] <njpatel> kvalo, sudo restart gdm
[11:00] <kvalo> njpatel: removed indicator-datetime and still see the problem
[11:01] <kvalo> njpatel: service output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544381/
[11:01] <njpatel> kvalo, do you see the indicators?
[11:01] <kvalo> njpatel: yes
[11:01] <njpatel> kvalo, but just no appmenu?
[11:02] <njpatel> that's weird
[11:02] <kvalo> njpatel: and when I click an indicator, I see the border around the icon but no menu
[11:02] <njpatel> kvalo, oh, wait
[11:02] <njpatel> kvalo, you see the file menu item in the panel, but you can't see the menu
[11:02] <kvalo> njpatel: clarification: Isee indicator icon, but not indicator menus
[11:02] <kvalo> njpatel: yes
[11:03] <njpatel> kvalo, and you just updated your system? Or it needs to be updated
[11:03] <kvalo> njpatel: also I don't see any menus in firefox
[11:03] <njpatel> kvalo, I had the same issue yesterday, but I couldn't even see right-click menu s
[11:03] <njpatel> kvalo, I updated the entire system and i haven't seen it since
[11:03] <njpatel> i had a compiz update waiting
[11:04] <kvalo> njpatel: I also updated 15 mins ago. but I check again for updates
[11:04] <njpatel> no, that won't be it
[11:05] <njpatel> kvalo, you can't see the menu in firefox either, which doesn't use panel menus, right?
[11:05] <njpatel> kvalo, I think there is a screw up in the painting order which is hitting us
[11:05] <njpatel> kvalo, for instance, yesterday I was right-clicking on xchat and the menu was appearing behind the window!
[11:07] <kvalo> damn, windows got stuck again
[11:07] <kvalo> njpatel: yes, firefox was _not_ using appmenus
[11:07] <njpatel> yeah, we need sam
[11:07] <njpatel> something is screwed in compiz
[11:08] <njpatel> kvalo, sorry dude, there's not much I can do right now :(
[11:08] <njpatel> I can ask jason to take a look when he's up
[11:08] <kvalo> njpatel: no worries, I just wanted to inform you about the issues. I'll do most of my work in maverick still
[11:09] <kvalo> njpatel: do you want me to file a bug about the menu issue?
[11:41] <coz_> out of curiosity, when launcher is set to autohide... if there are icons on the desktop...shouldnt it also autohide?   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/iconshide.png
[11:43] <njpatel> kvalo, yes please
[11:45] <kvalo> njpatel: ok, will do. I'm in maverick again, but I'll file a bug later in the evening
[11:46] <njpatel> thanks
[11:46] <seb128> coz_, there is a nautilus bug about not letting icons go in close the board
[11:47] <seb128> board -> border
[11:47] <coz_> seb128,  ok understood
[12:27] <kvalo> ronoc: hi. time for a tiny review? https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/bug-689304/+merge/43886
[12:27] <ronoc> kvalo, sure
[12:28] <ronoc> kvalo, done
[12:29] <kvalo> ronoc: thanks
[12:37] <ronoc> seb128, i want to get a release out later, does it suit ?
[12:40] <seb128> ronoc, sure
[12:41] <ronoc> seb128, cool, i'll take lunch shortly and then merge and roll, bout 3 ish gmt
[12:42] <seb128> ok
[13:51] <kvalo> ronoc: and another one: https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/bug-685494/+merge/43900
[13:51] <kvalo> ronoc: fortunately very small commits today :)
[13:51] <joaopinto> kenvandine, ping
[14:03] <lamalex> morning you all
[14:23] <joaopinto> kenvandine, let me know when/if you can help me with another app indicator issue :\
[14:23] <kenvandine> hey joaopinto
[14:23] <joaopinto> hi :)
[14:24] <joaopinto> about the custom icon, it happens when there is no appindicator applet, I have filled a bug today
[14:24] <joaopinto> now I have an issue with a menu triggered function
[14:25] <joaopinto> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544346/
[14:25] <joaopinto> this code works fine when triggered from the notification icon menu
[14:25] <joaopinto> when invoked from the indicator, the dialog is not destroyed when pressing the close window button
[14:38] <ronoc> kvalo, done
[14:43] <ronoc> njpatel, (re your comment on the merge request) is that line for the makefile.am in the data dir ?
[14:45] <kvalo> ronoc: thanks
[14:45] <njpatel> ronoc, right, yes
[14:46] <ronoc> njpatel, cool
[14:47] <ronoc> njpatel, make distcheck throw this now ->  *** No rule to make target `dist_gsettings_SCHEMAS', needed by `distdir'. Stop.
[14:48] <njpatel> oh, shit
[14:48]  * njpatel made a boo boo
[14:48] <njpatel> ronoc, you have a xml.in, right?
[14:48] <njpatel> ronoc, or just a xml
[14:48] <ronoc> njpatel, just xml
[14:49] <njpatel> ronoc, okay, i messed up, sorry, ignore me
[14:49] <njpatel> ronoc, I was thinking about my own gsettings usage
[14:49] <ronoc> njpatel, no worries, going to release today anyway, so any dist issues will be revealed ...
[14:50] <njpatel> right
[15:02] <kvalo> ronoc: hey, have you noticed anything similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-network/+bug/685402
[15:03] <kvalo> ronoc: it started happening after gdbus port, but I have no idea what's causing it
[15:04] <ronoc> kvalo, I haven't to be honest, although my menu doesn't dynamically change half as much as yours, I will test now by killing the service and see what happens
[15:05] <ronoc> seems fine
[15:09] <kvalo> ronoc: I downgraded to an older indicator-network release, and it works as properly. so it's definitely something indicator-network triggering the bug. I just don't have an idea what
[15:09] <kvalo> njpatel: I rebooted to natty again so that I would file a bug about the menu issue. but now I see the menus!
[15:10] <njpatel> kvalo, oh, you'll only see them for a while :)
[15:10] <njpatel> kvalo, we've got a bug and narrowed it down to a compiz update, just need to figure out wtf is wrong now
[15:10] <njpatel> ;)
[15:10] <ronoc> kvalo, one sec, just need to prep a release or maybe two
[15:11] <kvalo> ronoc: no worries, I was just asking if you had any ideas
[15:12] <kvalo> njpatel: ok. will wait for updates then :)
[15:20] <jcastro> njpatel: bug #690918 feels bitesizeable
[15:21] <njpatel> jcastro, yeah, but I'd make sure with dbo as that part is his code
[15:21] <jcastro> ok
[15:21] <njpatel> jcastro, seems bitesizable to me, though
[15:21] <jcastro> njpatel: how much of the launcher is his, all of it?
[15:21] <njpatel> jcastro, all except the quicklists and, in the future, devices and places
[15:31] <hyperair> ronoc: how do i run indicators in valgrind without needing to replace them with shell scripts?
[15:34] <ronoc> hyperair, you can use the indicator-loader for the package libindicator-tools
[15:35] <hyperair> ronoc: what does that do?
[15:35] <ronoc> it allows you to load a single indicator
[15:36] <ronoc> hyperair, you might need to load the service though as well,
[15:36] <hyperair> ronoc: yeah i need to run indicator-messages-service in valgrind.
[15:37] <ronoc> hyperair, have you compiled your own service ?
[15:39] <hyperair> ronoc: well i compiled my own deb and dpkg -i'd it
[15:49] <apw> njpatel, i did the unity --reset and the two main bugs are still there.   the broken menus till after the first right click and the screen saver not blanking the unity bits of the screen at all ... so i suspect they are real
[15:50] <lamalex> https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/unity/logging-enhancements/+merge/43920
[15:55] <njpatel> apw, so we figure out that downgrading to a older version of compiz fixes the issues
[15:56] <njpatel> apw, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu1
[15:56] <njpatel> apw, we're now trying to figure out why :)
[15:56] <apw> njpatel, i assume that someone has reproduced it then ... good enough
[15:56] <njpatel> apw, oh, yes, lot's of people :)
[15:57] <apw> i wonder how that did not show up in pre-upload testing !
[15:58] <seb128> the upload was a 3am one from didrocks to fix a breakage he did in the previous one and noticed before going to bed
[15:58] <seb128> the day before his holidays and moving to a new flat as well
[15:59] <seb128> so it didn't get a lot of testing most likely but we can't really blame him for that
[16:02] <joaopinto> anyone available capable of help with a notification->indicator python code migration ?
[16:20] <lamalex> jaytaoko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/691114 is my diagnosis of this right?
[16:21] <jaytaoko> lamalex: you are right
[16:22] <lamalex> ok cool
[16:22] <jaytaoko> lamalex: I am assigning the bug to me
[16:23] <lamalex> jaytaoko, is it not bitesize?
[16:24] <njpatel> lamalex, jaytaoko that seems like a bitesizable bug
[16:24]  * lamalex was going to try and fix it
[16:24] <lamalex> sounds like a fun way to get my hands dirty in some drawing code
[16:25] <jaytaoko> lamalex: it could be a bit tricky but all you need is in the code
[16:26] <jaytaoko> lamalex: I will finish with an issue first then I can point you on the stuff you need
[16:26] <lamalex> jaytaoko, cool beans
[16:26] <ronoc> kvalo, got a sec for merge request ?
[16:26] <ronoc> very very small
[16:28] <ronoc> seb128, about to roll seb, sorry noticed a bug that needed some attention
[16:28] <seb128> ronoc, no worry
[16:28] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[16:29] <ronoc> excellent, kenvandine hyperair has alerted me also to a memory leak in the 10.10 release,
[16:29]  * ronoc finds bug no
[16:31] <ronoc> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/689686
[16:31] <ronoc> i have it fixed in natty's trunk, but will need to backport for an sru for 10.10
[16:31] <ronoc> sound good ?
[16:36] <kvalo> ronoc: of course
[16:36] <kvalo> ronoc: what's the url?
[16:37] <ronoc> kvalo, no worries njpatel has sorted it
[16:37] <kvalo> ronoc: ok
[16:40] <jcastro> njpatel: are you guys doing releases today? or is didrocks gone = no release?
[16:44] <njpatel> jcastro, tomorrow with seb
[16:44] <jcastro> ta
[17:00] <kenvandine> ronoc, sure
[17:00] <kenvandine> ronoc, just let me know when you have a patch or whatever
[17:00] <ronoc> kenvandine, will do, just doing 0.5.3 for natty now
[17:00] <kenvandine> ronoc, ok
[17:07] <kvalo> kenvandine: I also have a new indicator-network release ready soon
[17:10] <kenvandine> kvalo, cool
[17:16] <hyperair> http://paste.debian.net/102548/ <-- i *think* there is a mem leak in dbusmenu right here, but i can't figure it out. can someone help? =\
[17:16]  * hyperair has been staring at that same stack trace for the past few hours
[17:20] <ronoc> kenvandine, just emailed you a patch for maverick to fix that memory leak
[17:21] <kenvandine> ronoc, great, i'll get it uploaded right after lunch
[17:21]  * kenvandine -> lunch
[17:22] <ronoc> kenvandine, grand thx, I'll have the natty release ready also when you come back
[17:24] <kvalo> ronoc: aha, now I understand. the state menuitems bug is not because of gdbus, but due to a custom widget
[17:24] <kvalo> *stale
[17:24] <kvalo> the custom widget is not properly destroyed
[17:25] <ronoc> kvalo, ah yes that would make sense
[17:28] <kvalo> ronoc: I got sidetracked because I read the bzr history long :/
[17:28] <kvalo> ronoc: do you have any idea how custom widgets are destroyed? I didn't understand that immeadiately
[17:29] <ronoc> kenvandine, https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.5.3
[17:30]  * ronoc checks the dbusmenu api
[17:31] <ronoc> kvalo, it should just be child delete off the root item no ?
[17:31] <ronoc> dbusmenu_menuitem_child_delete
[17:39] <kvalo> kenvandine: https://launchpad.net/indicator-network/trunk/0.3.2
[17:41] <kvalo> ronoc: I would also assume that dbusmenu destroyes the widget automatically. I just use dbusmenu_client_add_type_handler() to add the widget
[17:42] <ronoc> it should do ues but maybe keep an eye just to make sure
[17:43] <kvalo> yeah. I really need to study more how dbusmenu really works
[18:49] <tramm> about appindicators, anybody... is it that i cannot use custom icons from file even in a submenu?
[18:53] <tramm> well, the guide on Ubuntu page says abut indicator status icon: "The icons need to use icon names from themes, direct paths to icon files are not supported."
[18:54] <tramm> but as much as i try, the same seems to apply to the menu under status indicator icon and all the submenues as well...
[18:58] <tramm> is it really meant to be that way or should i file a bug?
[19:22] <kenvandine> kvalo, that 0.3.2 release has a 0.3.1 tarball
[19:28] <kvalo> kenvandine: damn, sorry
[19:28] <kvalo> forgot to edit configure.ac :(
[19:29] <kvalo> kenvandine: I'll create a new tarball now
[19:29] <kenvandine> :)
[19:29] <kvalo> that's what you get when trying to do something in a hurry...
[19:31] <tramm> once more... anybody here which application indicator experience willing to comment on custom icons from files in submenus?!
[19:34] <tramm> which=with... sorry
[19:34] <kvalo> kenvandine: new try: https://launchpad.net/indicator-network/trunk/0.3.2
[19:35] <kenvandine> thx kvalo
[19:35] <kvalo> kenvandine: I just noticed another issue, indicator-network-settings-2 doesn't work because of missing python files. but imho that doesn't block a release, it's not ready yet anyway.
[19:36] <kenvandine> ok, doesn't break existing functionality, right?
[19:36] <kvalo> kenvandine: exactly
[19:44] <kvalo> kenvandine: btw, your packaging branch has build depencies which fail with maverick. so I'm using a separate packagin branch for the daily builds.
[19:45] <kenvandine> kvalo, ok
[19:45] <kenvandine> yeah, that was bound to happen
[19:46] <kvalo> kenvandine: I think I'll just merge your branch every time you make a release and make sure it compiles with maverick
[19:46] <kenvandine> ok
[20:00] <kenvandine> DanRabbit, hey, segphault said you had talked about doing some icons for gwibber
[20:00] <kenvandine> DanRabbit, still have any interest? might be nice to refresh a bit with the new UI :)
[20:30] <lamalex> hey guys I need a review https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/unity/logging-enhancements/+merge/43920
[20:31] <lamalex> gord, how do I show places?
[20:32] <lamalex> I set the env variable to 1
[20:35] <jamalta> is unity on daily broken? or is it just me?
[20:35] <jamalta> i keep getting a segfault
[20:54] <jcastro> jamalta: I have the exact problem
[20:55] <jcastro> jamalta: can you get a backtrace?
[20:55] <jcastro> DBO: ^
[20:55] <jamalta> jcastro: yeah i ended up just building from trunk
[20:55] <jamalta> i can do that
[20:55] <jamalta> well, maybe.. :)
[20:55] <jamalta> oh wait
[20:55] <jamalta> it works now
[20:55] <jcastro> the daily PPA?
[20:55] <jamalta> i forgot to restart after i updated :), my bad
[20:55] <jamalta> oh wait
[20:55] <jamalta> i lie
[20:56] <jamalta> yeah getting a segfault still
[20:57] <jamalta> give me a few, need to install the -dev packages and what not :)
[20:57] <jcastro> me too
[20:57] <jcastro> I'll suffer with you
[20:57] <jamalta> i mean, dbg
[20:57] <jamalta> jcastro: haha ok :)
[20:57] <DBO> jamalta, if you can get a bt
[20:57] <DBO> you would be my hero
[20:58] <DBO> redditors: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/en0ti/i_am_an_ubuntu_unity_developer_ama/
[20:59] <jamalta> DBO: nice! :D
[21:01] <jamalta> so with gdb (sorry i'm new to this) the backtrace will be written to file when i do 'set logging file' right?
[21:01] <DBO> set logging on
[21:01] <DBO> to start logging
[21:03] <jamalta> ok will have it ready in a few
[21:04] <lamalex> DBO, can you review my merge?
[21:04] <DBO> lamalex, sure
[21:04] <lamalex> https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/unity/logging-enhancements/+merge/43920
[21:04] <jamalta> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544607/
[21:04] <jamalta> i have to run to the post office, be back in a bit
[21:05] <DBO> jamalta, when was nux last updated for you?
[21:05] <DBO> lamalex, +1
[21:12] <tramm> again, couple of more words... i'm trying to add appindicator support to screenlets. everything's fine, but one thing.
[21:13] <tramm> installed screenlets have to be displayed in the submenu of appindicator and it happens that individual screenlets have icons. these are not installed as stock icons.
[21:13] <tramm>  is there a way to display these under appindicator submenus? if not, please confirm that.
[21:30] <lamalex> tramm, I'm not really sure that you want to be using an app indicator in the first place
[21:33] <tramm> lamalex, yes, actually i don't really want to... but the screenlets daemon has had an option to show tray menu for ages and there sure is some meaningful content to display in that menu... by now the list of installed screenlets that can be added to desktop.
[21:34] <lamalex> good time to remove it
[21:35] <tramm> lamalex, please, explain... where will the users start/stop the screenlets in this case?
[21:36] <lamalex> some kind of enable/enable windowed app
[21:36] <lamalex> I mean that seems like the kind of thing you do every now and then, not like, every minutes where it'd need to be visable all the time
[21:37] <lamalex> screenlets configuration screenlet
[21:37] <lamalex> getting crazy
[21:38] <tramm> lamalex, i don't see that running screenlets is much different from playing music or chatting on irc. there are of course screenlets that you just start on startup, but there are also screenlets for making notes, tweeting etc that you may start 10 times a day.
[21:38] <tramm> and stop 10 times a day.
[21:40] <tramm> lamalex, but i would most certainly prefer to add starting/stopping screenlets to desktop menu, but this is not possible and that's why tray has been used for this kind of things.
[21:45] <tramm> i believe appindicators has to have some kind of policy for daemons like dropbox, screenlets etc. now even clipboard managers (glippy for example) have a separate appindicator, which is nonsense for my mind. indicator area gets polluted very easily, although the icons look and behave better than in the tray era.
[22:01] <jamalta> yeah nux from trunk seems to work
[22:01] <jamalta> i think i'll install it to /usr/local/ for now
[22:12] <jamalta> well, now unity fails to load, hehe...
[22:12] <jamalta> i think it is fair to say that today doesn't like me
[22:32] <spikeb> haha
[22:32] <spikeb> sounds like it
[22:33] <DBO> we need more upboats!
[22:33] <DBO> jamalta, come again?
[22:34] <jamalta> DBO: upboats?
[22:34] <DBO> for the reddit thread :)
[22:34] <jamalta> i compiled nux from trunks and things are working now
[22:34] <DBO> okay good
[22:34] <DBO> I blame seb128 then
[22:34] <DBO> as I knew I always should
[22:34] <jamalta> i was having a weird issue with the window decorator not loading, but all is good now :)
[22:34] <jamalta> haha
[22:35] <seb128> sorry about the daily builds issues
[22:35] <seb128> we will try to sort them tomorrow
[22:36] <jamalta> seb128: sounds good :)
[22:38] <DBO> seb128, I was not really blaming you
[22:38] <DBO> you are a hero really
[22:39]  * spikeb likes blaming heroes
[22:45] <seb128> DBO, thanks, lot of heros around really ;-)
[22:47] <tramm> lamalex, but about my question? do you know if displaying custom icons (not from theme) under appindicator submenus is possible or is it deliberately disabled?