[00:00] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is working with current kernel
[00:00] <apachelogger> oh
[00:00] <apachelogger> magic
[00:00] <apachelogger> usb wouldnt be working though
[00:00] <rbelem> apachelogger, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-devel/
[00:00] <apachelogger> ah
[00:00] <apachelogger> current meego you mean ^^
[00:01] <rbelem> i mean, newest :-)
[00:01] <rbelem> or development
[00:14] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm going home
[00:14] <rbelem> apachelogger, maybe i come back online today
[00:14]  * apachelogger is going to bed soonish
[00:16] <rbelem> apachelogger, i will install natty on n900, with rsalveti ppa, neon enabled
[00:16] <apachelogger> okidoki
[00:16] <rbelem> :-)
[00:16] <rbelem> bye
[00:16] <apachelogger> o/
[00:16] <rbelem> g'night
[02:45] <jschall> is there any chance someone could walk me through setting up ndiswrapper for a broadcom bcm4313 on kubuntu amd64? the bcmwl driver seems to be unreliable.
[02:48] <ScottK> bcmwl works very well for me on my netbook, although that's using 32bit.
[05:19] <nigelb> shadeslayer: this wouldn't be the first conf for which you're bunking exas :p
[05:19] <nigelb> *exams
[08:59] <cpatrick2008> i upgraded from maverick to natty via the latest alternative cd and i have 2 battery icons here is a pic of my taskbar http://tinypic.com/r/2ibj2uq/7
[09:08] <cpatrick2008> i upgraded from maverick to natty via the latest alternative cd and i have 2 battery icons here is a pic of my taskbar http://tinypic.com/r/2ibj2uq/7
[09:09] <valorie> cpatrick2008: this isn't a support channel, sorry
[09:09] <valorie> for support, use #kubuntu
[09:10] <valorie> that said, you should be able to right-click on one of them and tell it to go away
[11:58] <ScottK> valorie: He probably needed to remove hal.  I suspect solid thought there were two batteries because it heard about one from hal and one from upower.
[12:01] <valorie> ah, he's in the twilight zone
[12:02] <valorie> I'm betting that is documented somewhere in the testing docs though
[12:02] <valorie> but I should have sent him to #ubuntu+1 
[12:02] <valorie> oh, well
[12:03] <valorie> time for sleep, anyway
[12:03] <ScottK> Good night.
[12:03] <ScottK> It's probably just documented in the mail I sent to #kubuntu-devel and only by inference there.
[12:03] <valorie> :-)
[12:40] <shadeslayer> nigelb: ok different things, these are majors cant bunk/get them postponed
[12:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i haz 50 minutes, what can be done :P
[12:41] <shadeslayer> iirc there was some kdepim stuff that needed fixing
[12:44] <nigelb> shadeslayer: I was kidding :)
[12:45] <shadeslayer> oh boi oh boi
[12:45] <shadeslayer> not good ....
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: pingly
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: need to talk about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.4.8-0ubuntu1
[12:47] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_02_kalarm_kstatusnotifieritem needs to go back in ... its been applied against trunk not 4.4.8
[12:47] <shadeslayer> also ... why am i  in kdepim debian changelog 0_o
[12:48] <shadeslayer> i didnt do it
[12:48] <shadeslayer> like .. debians debian changelog
[12:49] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: OK.  You're in the changelog because that's what was in bzr.
[13:01] <shadeslayer> weirdness
[13:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: IIRC the patch didn't apply.  Please fix it up in bzr and ping me.
[13:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: there was a new patch... i have it somewhere here ...
[13:02] <ScottK> Great.
[13:02] <shadeslayer> ill fix it in bzr
[13:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: new patch is http://pastebin.com/0jSnqe3H
[13:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.  Ping me when it's there.  I need to fix the updates PPA too for Maverick.
[13:04] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:04] <shadeslayer> somehow 4.6 beta broke my gpg-agent
[13:08] <shadeslayer> need to rebuild and see if everything works
[13:10] <Riddell> it's broken everyone's gpg-agent
[13:10] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:10] <Riddell> Mamarok knows a fix
[13:10] <Riddell> or workaround
[13:10] <shadeslayer> ooohh
[13:10] <shadeslayer> oh... well ... i can manage right now :P
[13:11] <shadeslayer> ill wait for a proper fix
[13:11] <shadeslayer> samba is the awesome
[13:11] <shadeslayer> i can transfer files between my pc and phone over wifi \o/
[13:11] <shadeslayer> no more storage woes
[13:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: your magic is getting a android update apparently
[13:18] <Mamarok> Riddell: I know for the ssh-agent, but not the gpg-agent, haven't tried that yet
[13:19] <kronos> Riddell: is KDevelop still up for grabs ?
[13:19] <kronos> or anyone working
[13:19] <shadeslayer> kronos: \o
[13:20] <kronos> shadeslayer: o/
[13:20] <shadeslayer> btw... ctrl+shift+n or ctrl+shift+p for private browsing... which is better?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> thinking of setting a shortcut for it in rekonq
[13:20] <shadeslayer> ff uses p, chrom* uses n
[13:21] <ScottK> FYI.  I've started on Bug #691068.
[13:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: also, thanks for taking the avogadro MIR
[13:23] <Riddell> kronos: ooh yes please
[13:24] <shadeslayer> was the previous beta packaged?
[13:24] <Riddell> what previous beta?
[13:24] <shadeslayer> KDevelop
[13:24] <Riddell> this is the first beta
[13:24] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:24] <shadeslayer> kronos: best of luck :P
[13:24] <shadeslayer> your going to need it
[13:24] <Riddell> kronos: do you have access to ktown?
[13:24] <kronos> Riddell: nah..
[13:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: git plugin should probably be split into a new package?
[13:25] <shadeslayer> hmm ... no
[13:25] <Riddell> kronos: where is your ssh key?
[13:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> just asking ...
[13:26] <kronos> Riddell: launchpad.net/~bhargav
[13:27] <Riddell> kronos: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org
[13:27] <Riddell> unstable/kdevelop/4.1.80/src
[13:27] <Riddell> start with kdevplatform
[13:27] <shadeslayer> or just use dolphin :P
[13:28] <Riddell> grab existing packaging from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/1.1.1-0ubuntu1
[13:28] <Riddell> update changelog, start build, check for new build dependencies in the cmake output, continue build, check all files are installed 
[13:28] <shadeslayer> kronos: grab the handy build hook for missing files
[13:29] <markey> apachelogger: Riddell: VLC file selector dialog is still borked
[13:29] <markey> takes ~1 minute to come up
[13:29] <markey> no idea why...
[13:29] <shadeslayer> markey: kde 4.6?
[13:29] <markey> yes
[13:29] <markey> Beta 2
[13:29] <markey> latest updates
[13:29]  * shadeslayer tries
[13:29] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:29] <markey> it worked fine with KDE 4.5
[13:30] <markey> bbl, work
[13:30] <shadeslayer> possibly stuff changed? :P
[13:30] <shadeslayer> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
[13:30] <Riddell> kronos: also I'd get rid of all those l10n packages, they're not needed for ubuntu, just put the .po files into kdevplatform2-libs, they'll get stripped on upload anyway
[13:30] <Riddell> all the de-halification of solid means a lot has changed for the file dialogue
[13:31] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[13:32] <ScottK> Removing hal might actually help if you haven't already.
[13:33]  * Riddell removes hal
[13:34] <Riddell> ScottK: I take it suspend works without hal now?
[13:34] <ScottK> Riddell: I don't know.  It was supposed to with beta2.
[13:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: whats the package for hal? just hal?
[13:35] <Riddell> yes, seems to work here
[13:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[13:35] <shadeslayer> *cringe* http://paste.ubuntu.com/544428
[13:35] <Riddell> ooh removing hal made my file dialouges open much faster
[13:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: still on maverick?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> yus
[13:36] <shadeslayer> oh.. your on natty?
[13:36] <Riddell> how old fashioned :)
[13:36] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:37]  * shadeslayer will upgrade on 1st January 2012 :P
[13:37] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:37] <shadeslayer> i mean 2011
[13:37] <shadeslayer> or .. maybe i could just let it upgrade now
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ok ... lets run them scripts!
[13:40] <shadeslayer> also .. no more project neon updates for me after upgrade :>
[13:42] <ScottK> Why not?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: we start building neon for maverick after first beta
[13:42] <shadeslayer> er
[13:42] <shadeslayer> s/maverick/natty
[13:42] <shadeslayer> we are focusing on QA'ing packages for maverick atm
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ( Release date is 2nd week of January )
[13:44] <shadeslayer> Also ... who would want Neon on Natty ... with Natty being in alpha already .. they would have enough issues to handle  :P
[13:45] <shadeslayer> btw.. i dont suppose i have to run do-release-upgrade with sudo
[13:46] <shadeslayer> i have *never* upgraded a install ....
[13:49] <shadeslayer> hehehe .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/544430
[13:49] <shadeslayer> 5 hours
[13:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is neon anywhere near a big splash announcement?
[13:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: wait till 2nd week of Jan :P
[13:52] <Riddell> what happens then?
[13:52] <shadeslayer> then we can do promo stuff 
[13:52] <shadeslayer> we finish packaging and QA'ing stuff
[13:52] <Riddell> that sounds very organised
[13:53] <shadeslayer> yeah, we didnt have a target date, so we started slacking on work
[13:53] <shadeslayer> also issues with kdebindings
[13:53] <shadeslayer> so hopefully bindings will be fixed by then and we can release neon
[13:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: talk about organized https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging
[13:54] <shadeslayer> wait
[13:54] <shadeslayer> thats old
[13:54] <shadeslayer> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus
[13:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^ thanks to yofel 
[13:57] <Riddell> that yofel is good
[13:58] <shadeslayer> ok .. now back to studies, im keeping a watch on my kdepim build via VNC
[13:59] <shadeslayer> cya
[14:05] <jussi> ScottK: How is kde on maverick?  do we have an armel build? also, do we have a plasma mobile build on armel for maverick? (Ive just got our new efika smarttops and hoping for som kde goodness)
[14:07] <ScottK> jussi: Good, Yes, and Yes, but you probably want plasma-netbook.  You will have to work at it a bit to reduce what runs by default to make it somewhat usable.
[14:07] <jussi> ScottK: regular repos?  or ppa?
[14:07] <ScottK> Regular
[14:08] <ScottK> You'll also have to fiddle the kernel since no in archive kernel will run on those.
[14:08] <jussi> ok, so just a simple apt-get install plasma-netbook then? 
[14:08] <ScottK> Actually apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it should know to run -netbook
[14:08] <jussi> ScottK: they came with maverick, so kernel is there already. 
[14:08] <ScottK> OK
[14:09]  * jussi got new ones - no more crappy lange51 anymore :D
[14:10] <jussi> ScottK: is plasma mobile also available? Id like to see how it runs on an imx51.
[14:10] <ScottK> Yes, but it's not very mature.
[14:10] <jussi> yeah, I realise that
[14:27] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: is there a page listing all GCI tasks? ( Completed and those which are in progress and not claimed )
[14:28] <shadeslayer> KDE specific page would be rather nice
[14:30] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: i don't think so
[14:30] <Nightrose> if you find one let me know
[14:30] <Nightrose> i also need it
[14:30] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 << Organization = KDE
[14:30] <shadeslayer> but ... i cant find rekonq specific tasks, maybe because theyre taken
[14:30] <Nightrose> that doesn't list completed one
[14:31] <Nightrose> yea
[14:31] <shadeslayer> ah ok .. thats probably why
[14:31] <shadeslayer> dunno then :P
[14:50] <shadeslayer> ScottK: pushed rev 152, please have a look
[14:50] <ScottK> OK.
[14:52] <Nightrose> is there a tool like debian's popcon for ubuntu packages?
[14:53] <Nightrose> ahhh also popcon :D
[14:53] <Nightrose> nvm
[14:55] <Nightrose> hmmm but pretty useless when it's broken
[14:55] <Nightrose> :(
[14:55] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Would you please look at kdepim in the updates PPA for lucid (I didn't upload that one, Riddel did)
[15:05] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did we even have that patch in Lucid?
[15:07] <ari-tczew> wrrrrrrrrr how can I restore pinentry in kde?
[15:17] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207013 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Added an areChangesMarked() function to provide an easier way to check if there are pending changes without checking the emptiness of the QApt::PackageList that Backend::MarkedPackages() constructs and returns
[15:18] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1207014 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationWindow.cpp Use the new Backend::areChangesMarked() function. This avoids constructing a QApt::PackageList as well as 67,000 calls to QApt::Package::state() in the Backend::markedPackages() function
[15:21] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1207015 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Avoid 67,000 calls to QApt::Package::State by using the QApt::Backend::areChangesMarked() function rather than checking the size of the QList that QApt::Backend::markedPackages returns. Speeds up statusbar population.
[15:21] <ScottK> ari-tczew: pinentry and KDE are unrelated.  KDE uses pinentry, but doesn't affect it.
[15:22] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1207016 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/MuonMainWindow.cpp Use areChangesMarked() rather than checking the size of markedPackages()
[15:23] <ari-tczew> ScottK: so have to I always putting password twice in console?
[15:24] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I didn't say that.
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> ssh-askpass isn't working in natty either, so I doubt it's pinentry-qt4's fault
[15:25] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I know. but this case is annoying
[15:26] <ari-tczew> and after switch from gnome, I have to putting password to bzr acitvities always :/
[15:26] <ScottK> I don't doubt it, but it's not directly a KDE thing.
[15:27] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1207017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Use the more efficient areChangesMarked() function to determine whether or not to enable the apply button should be enabled
[15:43] <Riddell> "15:21 < NCommander> Kubuntu devs want to work on backporting and enabling NEON runtime detection for some handwritten assembler."
[15:43] <Riddell> NCommander: backporting from where to where?
[15:49] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207021 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp (log message trimmed)
[15:49] <CIA-116> Since package names are always latin1-compliant, prevent the unnecessary
[15:49] <CIA-116> conversion of const char * -> std::string -> QString::fromAscii ->
[15:51] <NCommander> Riddell: newer QT?
[15:57] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207025 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Use QLatin1String instead of QString::fromStdString() to avoid unnecessary conversions to/from std::string (When we're dealing with or can deal with const char *)
[15:59] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207026 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Fix a potential problem with homepage URLs with UTF8 characters not displaying correctly
[16:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: afaik yes, kronos was looking into kdepim 4.4.8 for lucid and iirc Riddell gave him the new patch and thats how it came to my attention
[16:16] <ScottK> Cool.  Thanks.
[16:16] <shadeslayer> ( the 152 revision didnt have the new series file, 153 has the patch in it now )
[16:22] <CIA-116> [couchdb-qt] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101216162229-qbqvsgadix2q18fi * cmake_uninstall.cmake.in unbreak build
[16:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Would you please go ahead an upload the fixed version to maverick in the updates PPA?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> sure
[16:23]  * ScottK is in the middle of uploading 4.4.5 to lucid-proposed.
[16:23] <ScottK> Thanks
[16:23] <shadeslayer> oh 4.4.5 in proposed .. great :D
[16:35] <kronos> Riddell: kdevplatform built log http://paste.ubuntu.com/544484/ 
[16:39] <shadeslayer> cmake output looks good
[16:40] <shadeslayer> the rest of the file is still downloading :P
[16:40] <shadeslayer> kronos: can you pastebin the debdiff?
[17:01] <kronos> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.ca/2021334 
[17:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: you said you are getting stuttering sound in dragon with phonon-gst?
[17:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes
[17:08]  * apachelogger can reproduce that
[17:08]  * apachelogger unfortunately has no idea why
[17:08] <Riddell> also it crashes on close
[17:09] <Riddell> also i seem to get no video picture
[17:09] <Riddell> so not great all in all
[17:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: with gst?
[17:12] <apachelogger> what is the crash on close?
[17:12] <apachelogger> eek
[17:12] <apachelogger> kgpg is the broken
[17:12] <apachelogger> gpg: Invalid option "--debug-level"
[17:13] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/rX9e3rwh
[17:14] <Riddell> so bad even DrKonqi can't sort it
[17:14] <apachelogger> ehm
[17:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: are you sure you are using gst?
[17:14]  * apachelogger is wondering why libxine shows up in the memory dump
[17:15] <apachelogger> and vlc
[17:15] <apachelogger> oh, libxine possibly from dragon linking against it
[17:21] <shadeslayer> kronos: looks fine, except seems that your debian/ folder got dirty in the build process
[17:21] <shadeslayer> there are log files in there
[17:21] <shadeslayer> rbelem: pingly
[17:22] <kronos> shadeslayer: look at line 670 of the debdiff. should the package be kdevplatform3-libs?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> rbelem: so apparently you can boot good old debian on the phone, i suppose kubuntu-mobile can work as well
[17:23] <shadeslayer> dunno about radio etc
[17:23] <shadeslayer> kronos: no line 670 in debdiff
[17:23] <shadeslayer> last line is 382
[17:24] <apachelogger> phonon-gst's debugging is made out of garbage
[17:24] <apachelogger> horrible, simply horrible
[17:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: please report a bug about the stuttering
[17:25] <apachelogger> I'll force sandsmark to do hardcore haxx0ring with me over the holidays
[17:25] <shadeslayer> kronos: bump up library name ... to kdevplatform3-libs
[17:25] <shadeslayer> apparently your debdiff was only half posted
[17:26] <shadeslayer> wait ...
[17:26] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:26] <shadeslayer> would that be correct library naming?
[17:27] <Riddell> apachelogger: where?
[17:27] <rbelem> shadeslayer, pong
[17:27] <shadeslayer> hold on
[17:27] <kronos> shadeslayer:  changelog shows previous change from kdevplatform1-libs to kdevplatform2-libs .
[17:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: bko
[17:27] <shadeslayer> kronos: ah ok then
[17:27] <apachelogger> yay
[17:28] <shadeslayer> otoh there is a command to generate a package name as well
[17:28] <apachelogger> virtuoso gone wild
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ^^
[17:28] <apachelogger> using 60% cpu
[17:28] <apachelogger> yayayaya
[17:28] <apachelogger> hooray
[17:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: happens on maverick as well :P
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ( assuming your on natty )
[17:28] <apachelogger> I am on mav
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[17:29] <shadeslayer> rbelem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1413313
[17:29] <shadeslayer> and look at the last post
[17:29] <rbelem> oki :-)
[17:30] <shadeslayer> s/post/link
[17:30] <apachelogger> rbelem: did you try the class10 yet?
[17:31] <rbelem> apachelogger, i tried with meego
[17:31] <apachelogger> any better?
[17:31] <rbelem> it is a little bit faster
[17:31] <apachelogger> now that does not sound a whole lot better ^^
[17:31] <shadeslayer> oh that is the second thing ^^ .. how do you find out the class of your SD card
[17:31] <rbelem> apps runs smother
[17:31]  * apachelogger thinks that the n900 probably only supports class6
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i cant find it anywehere
[17:32] <shadeslayer> *anywhere
[17:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is written on the card
[17:32] <apachelogger> unless it is a crap one
[17:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not mine it isnt
[17:32] <apachelogger> then it is not and probably class 2
[17:32] <apachelogger> class 2 == crap
[17:32] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:32] <shadeslayer> its a 2GB one ... came with the phone itself 
[17:32] <rbelem> apachelogger, it uses full speed with class10
[17:33] <apachelogger> You won £ 500,000.00GBP
[17:33] <apachelogger> woohooo
[17:33] <apachelogger> it is £ GBP
[17:33] <rbelem> 12 MB/s +ou-
[17:33] <shadeslayer> lol ^^
[17:33] <apachelogger> that is like £ by the powers of two
[17:40] <rbelem> shadeslayer, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631389
[17:40] <rbelem> this looks interesting :-)
[17:41] <shadeslayer> it does, doesnt it :)
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Too long to try it out tonight
[17:41] <shadeslayer> possibly in Jan
[17:41] <shadeslayer> best thing is... you cant brick it ..
[17:42] <rbelem> ehehehe :-D
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ( need to get a good microsd card first tho )
[17:42] <rbelem> shadeslayer, is easy to get a good one in your city?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> rbelem: dunno .. i see microsd cards everyday, dunno what class tho
[17:58] <shadeslayer> rbelem: http://www.flipkart.com/sandisk-memory-card-16gb-microsdhc-mobile-accessories-acccrrqzzjmaztzw
[17:58] <shadeslayer> thats the best deal i can find right now
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ( its out of stock )
[17:58] <shadeslayer> seems like a class 4
[18:00] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i bought mine from ebay
[18:01] <shadeslayer> i dont trust ebay india :P
[18:01] <shadeslayer> they steal your moniez
[18:01] <rbelem> from hong kong
[18:01] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:01] <rbelem> it took one month and five days to arrive :-D
[18:01] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:01] <shadeslayer> i might get it from here : http://www.infibeam.com/Camera_Accessories/i-SanDisk-Micro-SD/P-E-ME-SanDisk-MicroSD-Basic.html?id=Black-16GB&utm_term=sandisk+microsd_1_5
[18:02] <shadeslayer> dunno tho
[18:02] <shadeslayer> *i_should_really_start_studying*
[18:02] <shadeslayer> bye
[18:02] <shadeslayer> this time for good
[18:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you fix kdepim in maverick updates PPA?
[18:14] <kronos> Riddell: kdevplatform debdiff http://pastebin.com/70zHiT6k .
[18:17] <Riddell> kronos: hmm, just a diff -urN <old>/debian <new>/debian   would be more useful I think
[18:17] <Riddell> debdiffs between different upstream versions aren't too useful
[18:18] <kronos> Riddell: hmmm.. i ve copied the debian part in the pastebin ..
[18:18] <Riddell> kronos: URL?
[18:18] <kronos> http://pastebin.com/70zHiT6k
[18:20] <Riddell> ok
[18:20] <Riddell> kronos: do you want to put it into your PPA?
[18:20] <Riddell> kronos: are about able to continue on with the main kdevelop package?
[18:21] <kronos> Riddell: yeah .. i'll put it in mp ppa ..
[18:21] <kronos> *my
[18:22] <kronos> Riddell: which package is next ?
[18:22] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you be up for uploading 4.4.5 l10n to lucid-proposed in a bit (tomorrow's fine)?
[18:25] <Riddell> kronos: kdevelop
[18:26] <kronos> Should i put kdevplatform in my ppa ? and should there be a ~natty1~ppa1 in the changelog?
[18:26] <ScottK> kronos: For your PPA, just ~ppa1 is fine.
[18:27] <ScottK> kronos: We don't bother with $release when it's for the development release.
[18:42] <Riddell> ScottK: sounds like lots of downloading, changing changelog entries, source package building and uploading?
[18:43] <ScottK> Riddell: Don't you have a script that does all that?
[18:43] <Riddell> I expect so
[18:44] <Riddell> let's see what happens if I fire up an EC2 machine and run it
[18:44] <ScottK> OK.
[18:45] <kronos> Riddell: should i remove l10n packages in kdevelop and put corresponding files in the -data package ?
[18:46] <Riddell> kronos: yes please
[18:54] <hunger> power management is not working anymore in natty for me. I get a popup informing me no backend was found. Is that a known issue?
[18:55] <ScottK> hunger: No.  Do you have upower installed?
[18:55] <ScottK> (ideally we want upower without hal and it working)
[18:56] <hunger> ScottK: Yes... 0.9.7+git2something... aptitude says I am up to date.
[18:56] <ScottK> Odd.
[18:56] <ScottK> No one else has reported this that I'm aware of.
[18:58] <markey> erm, X11 or KWin or KDE crashed on me
[18:58] <markey> had to reboot
[18:58] <markey> something is weird with Beta2
[18:58] <markey> that never happened with 4.5
[18:59] <markey> it did not fully crash
[18:59] <markey> it got "stuck"
[18:59] <markey> and then kinda continued a zombie life
[18:59] <markey> you could not really use it, but you could move the mouse
[18:59] <markey> #weird
[18:59] <mgraesslin> alt+shift+f12?
[19:00] <hunger> ScottK: Hmmm... Seems like an issue with some update action or so. Just logged out/in and can no longer reproduce.
[19:00] <ScottK> OK.
[19:48] <hunger> Hey! kde network management connected to my WLAN for the first time ever!
[19:48] <ScottK> Sounds good.
[19:49] <ScottK> Interestingly enough we haven't updated the NM widget.
[19:49] <hunger> Only downside: It does not stop connecting when I plug in the ethernet.
[19:49] <hunger> ScottK: I have not updated my netbook in a while.
[19:50] <hunger> ScottK: So far I used knetworkmanager... now the plasmoid finally does something:-)
[19:50] <ScottK> No, I mean it's the same as Maverick.
[19:51] <ScottK> So if that's gotten better it's something else started working.
[19:51] <hunger> ScottK: Never worked there. And you did update KDE, did you leave out the nm plasmoid?
[19:51] <ScottK> hunger: NM widget is extragear.  Not part of core KDE SC.
[19:53] <hunger> ScottK: It builds on solid and whatnot... maybe that is finally fixed.
[19:54] <ScottK> Perhaps.  Or maybe something in NM itself.
[19:54] <ScottK> (the backend)
[19:58] <hunger> ScottK: Considering that knetworkmanager as well as nm-applet both worked all the time I think it is not NM itself.
[19:58] <ScottK> OK
[20:03] <kronos> How do i get local packages into pbuilder chroot ? the method in the pbuilder tutorial doesnt work .
[20:13] <neversfelde> kronos: you could use the pool hook https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[21:12] <doctormo> do you know if kde supports svg wallpapers and if so what renderer it uses?
[21:12] <doctormo> I'd like it if the genetic wallpapers weren't just stuck on default ubuntu and where made available for kde too.
[21:12] <doctormo> gnome uses librsvg and looking at that package it's tied to gtk heavily, so it can't be using librsvg.
[21:15] <JontheEchidna> doctormo: yes, using the QtSvg library most likely
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[21:21] <doctormo> thanks JontheEchidna
[21:32] <ScottK> OK.  kde4libs building in lucid-proposed.  Here we go ....
[21:34] <apachelogger> doctormo: in particular http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qsvgrenderer.html
[21:35] <doctormo> apachelogger: Do you know if it's any good?
[21:35] <doctormo> actually scratch that, could I pass you an svg and could you set it as your wallpaper and tell me if it renders good?
[21:36] <apachelogger> sure
[21:36] <apachelogger> also considering the whole desktop theme is also rendered using it, I would suppose it works decently well ;)
[21:36] <doctormo> download this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~doctormo/doctormo-random/genetic-wallpapers/annotate/head%3A/target.svg
[21:36] <doctormo> use the download link
[21:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: did you see that Riddell destroyed my dreams of having a 72h qt build on arm :(
[21:37] <doctormo> I wonder if it supports tspans, would be interesting if it did.
[21:39] <apachelogger> doctormo: major fail
[21:39] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot118.png
[21:46] <doctormo> apachelogger: ok thanks, that means that bluring and gradients aren't supported.
[22:15] <kronos> apachelogger: uploaded liblikeback to my ppa https://launchpad.net/~bhargav/+archive/sandbox .
[22:19] <ScottK> apachelogger: We need a minion to go sit a jdstrand's feet and learn enough about apparmor to fix it so mysql-akonadi can go away because we solved the problem a smarter way.
[23:16] <Riddell> ooh koffice has been compiling for 12 hours without breakage
[23:17] <Riddell> this is promising