[00:00] apachelogger, it is working with current kernel [00:00] oh [00:00] magic [00:00] usb wouldnt be working though [00:00] apachelogger, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-devel/ [00:00] ah [00:00] current meego you mean ^^ [00:01] i mean, newest :-) [00:01] or development [00:14] apachelogger, i'm going home [00:14] apachelogger, maybe i come back online today [00:14] * apachelogger is going to bed soonish [00:16] apachelogger, i will install natty on n900, with rsalveti ppa, neon enabled [00:16] okidoki [00:16] :-) [00:16] bye [00:16] o/ [00:16] g'night [02:45] is there any chance someone could walk me through setting up ndiswrapper for a broadcom bcm4313 on kubuntu amd64? the bcmwl driver seems to be unreliable. [02:48] bcmwl works very well for me on my netbook, although that's using 32bit. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [05:19] shadeslayer: this wouldn't be the first conf for which you're bunking exas :p [05:19] *exams === alvin_ is now known as alvin [08:59] i upgraded from maverick to natty via the latest alternative cd and i have 2 battery icons here is a pic of my taskbar http://tinypic.com/r/2ibj2uq/7 [09:08] i upgraded from maverick to natty via the latest alternative cd and i have 2 battery icons here is a pic of my taskbar http://tinypic.com/r/2ibj2uq/7 [09:09] cpatrick2008: this isn't a support channel, sorry [09:09] for support, use #kubuntu [09:10] that said, you should be able to right-click on one of them and tell it to go away === 13WAAVSZ9 is now known as skamster [11:58] valorie: He probably needed to remove hal. I suspect solid thought there were two batteries because it heard about one from hal and one from upower. [12:01] ah, he's in the twilight zone [12:02] I'm betting that is documented somewhere in the testing docs though [12:02] but I should have sent him to #ubuntu+1 [12:02] oh, well [12:03] time for sleep, anyway [12:03] Good night. [12:03] It's probably just documented in the mail I sent to #kubuntu-devel and only by inference there. [12:03] :-) [12:40] nigelb: ok different things, these are majors cant bunk/get them postponed [12:40] apachelogger: i haz 50 minutes, what can be done :P [12:41] iirc there was some kdepim stuff that needed fixing === 5EXABXORB is now known as skamster [12:44] shadeslayer: I was kidding :) [12:45] oh boi oh boi [12:45] not good .... [12:47] ScottK: pingly [12:47] ScottK: need to talk about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.4.8-0ubuntu1 [12:47] kubuntu_02_kalarm_kstatusnotifieritem needs to go back in ... its been applied against trunk not 4.4.8 [12:47] also ... why am i in kdepim debian changelog 0_o [12:48] i didnt do it [12:48] like .. debians debian changelog [12:49] hmm [13:01] shadeslayer: OK. You're in the changelog because that's what was in bzr. [13:01] weirdness [13:01] shadeslayer: IIRC the patch didn't apply. Please fix it up in bzr and ping me. [13:02] ScottK: there was a new patch... i have it somewhere here ... [13:02] Great. [13:02] ill fix it in bzr [13:03] ScottK: new patch is http://pastebin.com/0jSnqe3H [13:04] shadeslayer: Thanks. Ping me when it's there. I need to fix the updates PPA too for Maverick. [13:04] yep [13:04] somehow 4.6 beta broke my gpg-agent [13:08] need to rebuild and see if everything works [13:10] it's broken everyone's gpg-agent [13:10] :( [13:10] Mamarok knows a fix [13:10] or workaround [13:10] ooohh [13:10] oh... well ... i can manage right now :P [13:11] ill wait for a proper fix [13:11] samba is the awesome [13:11] i can transfer files between my pc and phone over wifi \o/ [13:11] no more storage woes [13:12] apachelogger: your magic is getting a android update apparently [13:18] Riddell: I know for the ssh-agent, but not the gpg-agent, haven't tried that yet [13:19] Riddell: is KDevelop still up for grabs ? [13:19] or anyone working [13:19] kronos: \o [13:20] shadeslayer: o/ [13:20] btw... ctrl+shift+n or ctrl+shift+p for private browsing... which is better? [13:20] thinking of setting a shortcut for it in rekonq [13:20] ff uses p, chrom* uses n [13:21] FYI. I've started on Bug #691068. [13:21] Launchpad bug 691068 in kdewebdev (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU tracking bug for KDE 4.4.5/8 update in Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691068 [13:21] ScottK: also, thanks for taking the avogadro MIR [13:23] kronos: ooh yes please [13:24] was the previous beta packaged? [13:24] what previous beta? [13:24] KDevelop [13:24] this is the first beta [13:24] ah [13:24] kronos: best of luck :P [13:24] your going to need it [13:24] kronos: do you have access to ktown? [13:24] Riddell: nah.. [13:25] Riddell: git plugin should probably be split into a new package? [13:25] hmm ... no [13:25] kronos: where is your ssh key? [13:25] shadeslayer: why? [13:26] just asking ... [13:26] Riddell: launchpad.net/~bhargav [13:27] kronos: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org [13:27] unstable/kdevelop/4.1.80/src [13:27] start with kdevplatform [13:27] or just use dolphin :P [13:28] grab existing packaging from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/1.1.1-0ubuntu1 [13:28] update changelog, start build, check for new build dependencies in the cmake output, continue build, check all files are installed [13:28] kronos: grab the handy build hook for missing files [13:29] apachelogger: Riddell: VLC file selector dialog is still borked [13:29] takes ~1 minute to come up [13:29] no idea why... [13:29] markey: kde 4.6? [13:29] yes [13:29] Beta 2 [13:29] latest updates [13:29] * shadeslayer tries [13:29] yeah [13:29] it worked fine with KDE 4.5 [13:30] bbl, work [13:30] possibly stuff changed? :P [13:30] Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE") [13:30] kronos: also I'd get rid of all those l10n packages, they're not needed for ubuntu, just put the .po files into kdevplatform2-libs, they'll get stripped on upload anyway [13:30] all the de-halification of solid means a lot has changed for the file dialogue [13:31] hmmm [13:32] Removing hal might actually help if you haven't already. [13:33] * Riddell removes hal [13:34] ScottK: I take it suspend works without hal now? [13:34] Riddell: I don't know. It was supposed to with beta2. [13:34] Riddell: whats the package for hal? just hal? [13:35] yes, seems to work here [13:35] shadeslayer: yes [13:35] *cringe* http://paste.ubuntu.com/544428 [13:35] ooh removing hal made my file dialouges open much faster [13:36] shadeslayer: still on maverick? [13:36] yus [13:36] oh.. your on natty? [13:36] how old fashioned :) [13:36] :P [13:37] * shadeslayer will upgrade on 1st January 2012 :P [13:37] lol [13:37] i mean 2011 [13:37] or .. maybe i could just let it upgrade now [13:37] ok ... lets run them scripts! [13:40] also .. no more project neon updates for me after upgrade :> [13:42] Why not? [13:42] ScottK: we start building neon for maverick after first beta [13:42] er [13:42] s/maverick/natty [13:42] we are focusing on QA'ing packages for maverick atm [13:42] ( Release date is 2nd week of January ) [13:44] Also ... who would want Neon on Natty ... with Natty being in alpha already .. they would have enough issues to handle :P [13:45] btw.. i dont suppose i have to run do-release-upgrade with sudo [13:46] i have *never* upgraded a install .... [13:49] hehehe .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/544430 [13:49] 5 hours [13:51] shadeslayer: is neon anywhere near a big splash announcement? [13:52] Riddell: wait till 2nd week of Jan :P [13:52] what happens then? [13:52] then we can do promo stuff [13:52] we finish packaging and QA'ing stuff [13:52] that sounds very organised [13:53] yeah, we didnt have a target date, so we started slacking on work [13:53] also issues with kdebindings [13:53] so hopefully bindings will be fixed by then and we can release neon [13:54] Riddell: talk about organized https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging [13:54] wait [13:54] thats old [13:54] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus [13:55] apachelogger: ^^ thanks to yofel [13:57] that yofel is good [13:58] ok .. now back to studies, im keeping a watch on my kdepim build via VNC [13:59] cya [14:05] ScottK: How is kde on maverick? do we have an armel build? also, do we have a plasma mobile build on armel for maverick? (Ive just got our new efika smarttops and hoping for som kde goodness) [14:07] jussi: Good, Yes, and Yes, but you probably want plasma-netbook. You will have to work at it a bit to reduce what runs by default to make it somewhat usable. [14:07] ScottK: regular repos? or ppa? [14:07] Regular [14:08] You'll also have to fiddle the kernel since no in archive kernel will run on those. [14:08] ok, so just a simple apt-get install plasma-netbook then? [14:08] Actually apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it should know to run -netbook [14:08] ScottK: they came with maverick, so kernel is there already. [14:08] OK [14:09] * jussi got new ones - no more crappy lange51 anymore :D [14:10] ScottK: is plasma mobile also available? Id like to see how it runs on an imx51. [14:10] Yes, but it's not very mature. [14:10] yeah, I realise that [14:27] Nightrose: is there a page listing all GCI tasks? ( Completed and those which are in progress and not claimed ) [14:28] KDE specific page would be rather nice [14:30] shadeslayer: i don't think so [14:30] if you find one let me know [14:30] i also need it [14:30] Nightrose: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 << Organization = KDE [14:30] but ... i cant find rekonq specific tasks, maybe because theyre taken [14:30] that doesn't list completed one [14:31] yea [14:31] ah ok .. thats probably why [14:31] dunno then :P [14:50] ScottK: pushed rev 152, please have a look [14:50] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=152&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 152 | Coolo: included X11 headers again in drag.cpp (my fault) [14:50] OK. [14:52] is there a tool like debian's popcon for ubuntu packages? [14:53] ahhh also popcon :D [14:53] nvm [14:55] hmmm but pretty useless when it's broken [14:55] :( [14:55] shadeslayer: Would you please look at kdepim in the updates PPA for lucid (I didn't upload that one, Riddel did) [15:05] shadeslayer: Did we even have that patch in Lucid? [15:07] wrrrrrrrrr how can I restore pinentry in kde? [15:17] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207013 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Added an areChangesMarked() function to provide an easier way to check if there are pending changes without checking the emptiness of the QApt::PackageList that Backend::MarkedPackages() constructs and returns [15:18] [muon] jmthomas * 1207014 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationWindow.cpp Use the new Backend::areChangesMarked() function. This avoids constructing a QApt::PackageList as well as 67,000 calls to QApt::Package::state() in the Backend::markedPackages() function [15:21] [muon] jmthomas * 1207015 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Avoid 67,000 calls to QApt::Package::State by using the QApt::Backend::areChangesMarked() function rather than checking the size of the QList that QApt::Backend::markedPackages returns. Speeds up statusbar population. [15:21] ari-tczew: pinentry and KDE are unrelated. KDE uses pinentry, but doesn't affect it. [15:22] [muon] jmthomas * 1207016 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/MuonMainWindow.cpp Use areChangesMarked() rather than checking the size of markedPackages() [15:23] ScottK: so have to I always putting password twice in console? [15:24] ari-tczew: I didn't say that. [15:25] ssh-askpass isn't working in natty either, so I doubt it's pinentry-qt4's fault [15:25] ScottK: I know. but this case is annoying [15:26] and after switch from gnome, I have to putting password to bzr acitvities always :/ [15:26] I don't doubt it, but it's not directly a KDE thing. [15:27] [muon] jmthomas * 1207017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Use the more efficient areChangesMarked() function to determine whether or not to enable the apply button should be enabled [15:43] "15:21 < NCommander> Kubuntu devs want to work on backporting and enabling NEON runtime detection for some handwritten assembler." [15:43] NCommander: backporting from where to where? [15:49] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207021 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp (log message trimmed) [15:49] Since package names are always latin1-compliant, prevent the unnecessary [15:49] conversion of const char * -> std::string -> QString::fromAscii -> [15:51] Riddell: newer QT? [15:57] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207025 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Use QLatin1String instead of QString::fromStdString() to avoid unnecessary conversions to/from std::string (When we're dealing with or can deal with const char *) [15:59] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1207026 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Fix a potential problem with homepage URLs with UTF8 characters not displaying correctly [16:16] ScottK: afaik yes, kronos was looking into kdepim 4.4.8 for lucid and iirc Riddell gave him the new patch and thats how it came to my attention [16:16] Cool. Thanks. [16:16] ( the 152 revision didnt have the new series file, 153 has the patch in it now ) [16:22] [couchdb-qt] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101216162229-qbqvsgadix2q18fi * cmake_uninstall.cmake.in unbreak build [16:22] shadeslayer: Would you please go ahead an upload the fixed version to maverick in the updates PPA? [16:23] sure [16:23] * ScottK is in the middle of uploading 4.4.5 to lucid-proposed. [16:23] Thanks [16:23] oh 4.4.5 in proposed .. great :D === bhargav is now known as kronos [16:35] Riddell: kdevplatform built log http://paste.ubuntu.com/544484/ [16:39] cmake output looks good [16:40] the rest of the file is still downloading :P [16:40] kronos: can you pastebin the debdiff? [17:01] shadeslayer: http://pastebin.ca/2021334 [17:07] Riddell: you said you are getting stuttering sound in dragon with phonon-gst? [17:08] apachelogger: yes [17:08] * apachelogger can reproduce that [17:08] * apachelogger unfortunately has no idea why [17:08] also it crashes on close [17:09] also i seem to get no video picture [17:09] so not great all in all [17:12] Riddell: with gst? [17:12] what is the crash on close? [17:12] eek [17:12] kgpg is the broken [17:12] gpg: Invalid option "--debug-level" [17:13] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/rX9e3rwh [17:14] so bad even DrKonqi can't sort it [17:14] ehm [17:14] Riddell: are you sure you are using gst? [17:14] * apachelogger is wondering why libxine shows up in the memory dump [17:15] and vlc [17:15] oh, libxine possibly from dragon linking against it === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [17:21] kronos: looks fine, except seems that your debian/ folder got dirty in the build process [17:21] there are log files in there [17:21] rbelem: pingly [17:22] shadeslayer: look at line 670 of the debdiff. should the package be kdevplatform3-libs? [17:23] rbelem: so apparently you can boot good old debian on the phone, i suppose kubuntu-mobile can work as well [17:23] dunno about radio etc [17:23] kronos: no line 670 in debdiff [17:23] last line is 382 [17:24] phonon-gst's debugging is made out of garbage [17:24] horrible, simply horrible [17:24] Riddell: please report a bug about the stuttering [17:25] I'll force sandsmark to do hardcore haxx0ring with me over the holidays [17:25] kronos: bump up library name ... to kdevplatform3-libs [17:25] apparently your debdiff was only half posted [17:26] wait ... [17:26] hmm [17:26] would that be correct library naming? [17:27] apachelogger: where? [17:27] shadeslayer, pong [17:27] hold on [17:27] shadeslayer: changelog shows previous change from kdevplatform1-libs to kdevplatform2-libs . [17:27] Riddell: bko [17:27] kronos: ah ok then [17:27] yay [17:28] otoh there is a command to generate a package name as well [17:28] virtuoso gone wild [17:28] ^^ [17:28] using 60% cpu [17:28] yayayaya [17:28] hooray [17:28] apachelogger: happens on maverick as well :P [17:28] ( assuming your on natty ) [17:28] I am on mav [17:29] ah ok [17:29] rbelem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1413313 [17:29] and look at the last post [17:29] oki :-) [17:30] s/post/link [17:30] rbelem: did you try the class10 yet? [17:31] apachelogger, i tried with meego [17:31] any better? [17:31] it is a little bit faster [17:31] now that does not sound a whole lot better ^^ [17:31] oh that is the second thing ^^ .. how do you find out the class of your SD card [17:31] apps runs smother [17:31] * apachelogger thinks that the n900 probably only supports class6 [17:31] i cant find it anywehere [17:32] *anywhere [17:32] shadeslayer: it is written on the card [17:32] unless it is a crap one [17:32] apachelogger: not mine it isnt [17:32] then it is not and probably class 2 [17:32] class 2 == crap [17:32] :P [17:32] its a 2GB one ... came with the phone itself [17:32] apachelogger, it uses full speed with class10 [17:33] You won £ 500,000.00GBP [17:33] woohooo [17:33] it is £ GBP [17:33] 12 MB/s +ou- [17:33] lol ^^ [17:33] that is like £ by the powers of two [17:40] shadeslayer, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631389 [17:40] this looks interesting :-) [17:41] it does, doesnt it :) [17:41] Too long to try it out tonight [17:41] possibly in Jan [17:41] best thing is... you cant brick it .. [17:42] ehehehe :-D [17:42] ( need to get a good microsd card first tho ) [17:42] shadeslayer, is easy to get a good one in your city? [17:43] rbelem: dunno .. i see microsd cards everyday, dunno what class tho [17:58] rbelem: http://www.flipkart.com/sandisk-memory-card-16gb-microsdhc-mobile-accessories-acccrrqzzjmaztzw [17:58] thats the best deal i can find right now [17:58] ( its out of stock ) [17:58] seems like a class 4 [18:00] shadeslayer, i bought mine from ebay [18:01] i dont trust ebay india :P [18:01] they steal your moniez [18:01] from hong kong [18:01] ah [18:01] it took one month and five days to arrive :-D [18:01] lol [18:01] i might get it from here : http://www.infibeam.com/Camera_Accessories/i-SanDisk-Micro-SD/P-E-ME-SanDisk-MicroSD-Basic.html?id=Black-16GB&utm_term=sandisk+microsd_1_5 [18:02] dunno tho [18:02] *i_should_really_start_studying* [18:02] bye [18:02] this time for good [18:04] shadeslayer: Did you fix kdepim in maverick updates PPA? [18:14] Riddell: kdevplatform debdiff http://pastebin.com/70zHiT6k . [18:17] kronos: hmm, just a diff -urN /debian /debian would be more useful I think [18:17] debdiffs between different upstream versions aren't too useful [18:18] Riddell: hmmm.. i ve copied the debian part in the pastebin .. [18:18] kronos: URL? [18:18] http://pastebin.com/70zHiT6k [18:20] ok [18:20] kronos: do you want to put it into your PPA? [18:20] kronos: are about able to continue on with the main kdevelop package? [18:21] Riddell: yeah .. i'll put it in mp ppa .. [18:21] *my [18:22] Riddell: which package is next ? [18:22] Riddell: Would you be up for uploading 4.4.5 l10n to lucid-proposed in a bit (tomorrow's fine)? [18:25] kronos: kdevelop [18:26] Should i put kdevplatform in my ppa ? and should there be a ~natty1~ppa1 in the changelog? [18:26] kronos: For your PPA, just ~ppa1 is fine. [18:27] kronos: We don't bother with $release when it's for the development release. [18:42] ScottK: sounds like lots of downloading, changing changelog entries, source package building and uploading? [18:43] Riddell: Don't you have a script that does all that? [18:43] I expect so [18:44] let's see what happens if I fire up an EC2 machine and run it [18:44] OK. [18:45] Riddell: should i remove l10n packages in kdevelop and put corresponding files in the -data package ? [18:46] kronos: yes please [18:54] power management is not working anymore in natty for me. I get a popup informing me no backend was found. Is that a known issue? [18:55] hunger: No. Do you have upower installed? [18:55] (ideally we want upower without hal and it working) [18:56] ScottK: Yes... 0.9.7+git2something... aptitude says I am up to date. [18:56] Odd. [18:56] No one else has reported this that I'm aware of. [18:58] erm, X11 or KWin or KDE crashed on me [18:58] had to reboot [18:58] something is weird with Beta2 [18:58] that never happened with 4.5 [18:59] it did not fully crash [18:59] it got "stuck" [18:59] and then kinda continued a zombie life [18:59] you could not really use it, but you could move the mouse [18:59] #weird [18:59] alt+shift+f12? [19:00] ScottK: Hmmm... Seems like an issue with some update action or so. Just logged out/in and can no longer reproduce. [19:00] OK. [19:48] Hey! kde network management connected to my WLAN for the first time ever! [19:48] Sounds good. [19:49] Interestingly enough we haven't updated the NM widget. [19:49] Only downside: It does not stop connecting when I plug in the ethernet. [19:49] ScottK: I have not updated my netbook in a while. [19:50] ScottK: So far I used knetworkmanager... now the plasmoid finally does something:-) [19:50] No, I mean it's the same as Maverick. [19:51] So if that's gotten better it's something else started working. [19:51] ScottK: Never worked there. And you did update KDE, did you leave out the nm plasmoid? [19:51] hunger: NM widget is extragear. Not part of core KDE SC. [19:53] ScottK: It builds on solid and whatnot... maybe that is finally fixed. [19:54] Perhaps. Or maybe something in NM itself. [19:54] (the backend) [19:58] ScottK: Considering that knetworkmanager as well as nm-applet both worked all the time I think it is not NM itself. [19:58] OK [20:03] How do i get local packages into pbuilder chroot ? the method in the pbuilder tutorial doesnt work . === makl is now known as ximion1 [20:13] kronos: you could use the pool hook https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment === a1 is now known as al === ximion1 is now known as makl === makl is now known as ximion [21:12] do you know if kde supports svg wallpapers and if so what renderer it uses? [21:12] I'd like it if the genetic wallpapers weren't just stuck on default ubuntu and where made available for kde too. [21:12]