[02:18] <sanal_madatheth> hi
[02:19] <sanal_madatheth> after upgrading to 11.04 ,no panels,window close buttons.Tried removal and reinstallation of metacity,still not getting it
[02:19] <sanal_madatheth> plz extend ur support
[02:24] <Invisikon> anyone around?
[02:26] <Invisikon> anyone know of a bug where a fresh install works fine, upon updating package unity hangs on login.. background shows but nothing else.
[02:27] <Quackers> yes, one sec
[02:27] <Invisikon> all packages*
[02:28] <Quackers> It's been mentioned a few times in the Natty testing forum
[02:28] <Quackers> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=394
[02:29] <Quackers> one or two different fixes it seems, but mainly updates eem to have fixed, I think
[02:30] <Invisikon> ive updated
[02:30] <Invisikon> still an issue.
[02:30] <Invisikon> im looking into work arounds, thanks
[02:31] <Quackers> np, good luck
[02:32] <Invisikon> thanks
[02:32] <sanal_madatheth> can anybody plz help me to solve the issue...
[02:35] <holstein> hmmm
[02:42] <Volkodav> restart compiz
[02:42] <Volkodav> try login/out
[02:42] <Volkodav> switch to gnome -- do smth
[02:44] <Andre_Gondim> gwibber is crashing on natty
[03:41] <dmb> ugh oh
[03:42] <dmb> do not update sudo currently oops
[03:42] <dmb> issue is, i only look in this channel when there is a problem :P
[03:49] <IdleOne> little late for me :/
[03:50] <IdleOne> ok so how do I add myself back to the sudoers file?
[03:51] <dmb> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:51] <dmb> use recovery mode root shell
[03:51] <dmb> or boot into livecd
[03:53] <IdleOne> thank you
[04:14] <IdleOne> wow now I have half Unity half classic desktop
[04:14] <IdleOne> heh
[04:14] <yofel_> you can also just run 'adduser <your user name> sudo', a bit easier that editing sudoers
[04:14] <rww> Fun alpha cycle so far, huh ;)
[04:15] <yofel> s/that/than/
[04:15] <IdleOne> rww: I have been using classic desktop for a few weeks, decided to boot unity and yeah this is fun
[04:16] <rww> IdleOne: I wipe out my ~/ every week or two. It helps a bit with things like that.
[04:17] <IdleOne> you wipe you home?
[04:18] <rww> IdleOne: Yes. I have a separate computer I use for testing Natty ;P
[04:19] <IdleOne> smart you
[05:21] <rigved> when i tried to update my natty desktop today, it told me that i should do a partial upgrade. is this correct or something has gone wrong?
[05:22] <rww> rigved: That's normal. I recommend not trying to force a full upgrade.
[05:22] <rww> I note that you should also see /topic if you're about to do an update.
[05:23] <rigved> rww: ok. i'll check it
[05:26] <rww> or, hrm. is partial upgrade the one that removes existing packages? I stopped using update manager a couple of releases ago, am starting to forget these things :(
[05:39] <IdleOne> DON'T do partial upgrades
[05:39] <IdleOne> also sudo is broken right now so don't update.
[05:40] <rww> I guess the answer to my question is "yes"
[05:40] <rww> huzzah for terms that sound like the opposite of what they are.
[05:40] <nit-wit> I deleted the whole thing way to buggy
[05:42] <IdleOne> besides being all brokened, natty is pretty nice
[05:42] <IdleOne> I know brokened isn't a word
[05:42] <rww> Narwhals ate my children. Unstable :(
[05:43] <IdleOne> you had children?
[05:43] <rww> Wait, what year is it?
[05:43] <IdleOne> I'm afraid to answer in case I get it wrong
[05:43] <IdleOne> 2010 iirc
[05:44] <rww> Then no. No children. Forget I said anything. Look at this shiny red light stick~!
[05:44] <IdleOne> ohhhhh aahhhhh
[05:44] <rigved> IdleOne: ok i haven't. yes i noticed that it was about to remove packages that i had no clue about.
[05:44] <IdleOne> shiny and blinky
[05:45] <rigved> i think i'll update using zsync and then install again.
[05:50] <Invisikon> sudo is fixed and in repos.. in case anyone was wondering
[05:51] <rww> The fixed version is 1.7.4p4-5ubuntu2, if you want to check whether your mirror has it.
[05:52] <Invisikon> yeah'
[05:52] <Invisikon> -'
[05:52] <Invisikon> brb
[05:56] <rigved> Invisikon: ok so are you saying that i can update via package manager? it asked me to doa partial upgrade instead of the full (normal) upgrade
[06:47] <susundberg> http://susundberg.pastebin.com/9xbB7MMG
[06:47] <susundberg> (apt get update fails for building blcr, clean kernel except nvidia module)
[06:53] <susundberg> ok and the two files mentioned -- both are non-existing
[06:55] <susundberg> sorry, not true, make.log was there http://susundberg.pastebin.com/YGpaugLF
[06:59] <susundberg> oh https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blcr/+bug/673843
[09:11] <nperry_> Welcome to unity new release day...
[11:44] <coz_> hey guys.. i disabled firefox 4  in place of swiftfox on the system... under preferred applications I cannot get swiftfox to be default browser for some reason... any suggestions?
[13:27] <rigved> i have tried to run 11.04 under qemu but it does not even boot up; just shows the ubuntu 10.10 booting logo. it is only running under virtualbox (in classic mode only; cannot start unity), but i cannot test x64 under virtualbox as i don't have VT. i can only do this under qemu. anyone have any suggestion on getting 11.04 to work under qemu?
[14:03] <Amaranth> rigved: Boot with nosplash and remove 'quiet' from the boot line
[14:04] <Amaranth> I think those still apply to a modern boot
[14:30] <Invisikon> when ure in the recovery console and need to add yourself to root, whats the command u use? 'adduser youruser sudo' right? from login screen when i choose recovery console i still get permission denied errors..
[14:35] <Pici> Invisikon: Are you being plauged by bug #690873?
[14:35] <Invisikon> yeah
[14:36] <Pici> Invisikon: Well if you have that then adding yourself to the admin group (which is what is usually used for root access) isn't going to help.  I suggest modifying your sudoers file to make sure that it contains the normal   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL  entry.
[14:37] <Invisikon> in recovery console i cant mod anything without root, cant gain root till sudo is fixed.. any suggestions?
[16:23] <Invisikon> is there a way to pin an item to the dockbar n unity?
[16:24] <Invisikon> i know its a work n progress, just wondering if it was possible as of right now
[16:26] <om26er> Invisikon, it works now
[16:27] <charlie-tca__> Invisikon: after opening an application, right-click the icon in the dock
[16:27] <Invisikon> ok, so how is it done?
[16:27] <Invisikon> ahh
[16:27] <Invisikon> got it, thanks =]
[16:28] <Invisikon> and the sync for ubuntu one is currently broken, right?
[16:31] <charlie-tca__> You are welcome
[20:15] <jamalta> hi all.. so i'm one of the people that broke their sudos with yesterday's update and i had a question
[20:15] <jamalta> how can i edit /etc/sudoers without sudo-ing? :\
[20:16] <jamalta> oh wait, i can just login in single-user mode :)
[20:19] <Ian_Corne> yes
[20:19] <Ian_Corne> :)
[20:20] <charlie-tca> or live cd
[20:20] <IdleOne> jamalta: boot to recovery mode and select root shell then nano /etc/sudoers and add %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[20:20] <IdleOne> save and reboot to normal kernel
[20:22] <jamalta> IdleOne: yep, did that.. thanks!
[20:22] <jamalta> :)
[20:22] <IdleOne> sure thing
[20:27] <Ian_Corne> IdleOne: or just visudo :)
[20:27] <Ian_Corne> instead of nano'ing the file
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> Is the warning about python still true?
[20:29] <IdleOne> Ian_Corne: yeah, I know. I just prefer nano
[20:29] <Ian_Corne> doesn't it actually just use nano?
[21:10] <rww> IdleOne: Considering that visudo should use your default editor, and that it does validation to make sure you didn't make silly mistakes, you should be using visudo ;P
[21:13] <red2kic> Unless he is an IRC crawling bot who does not make mistakes and test his system based on incoming commands from IRC channels.
[21:13] <red2kic> sudo reboot
[21:13] <red2kic> Apparently not.
[21:13] <red2kic> :P
[21:32] <xharx> natty installed a bootloader that doesn't boot in 9 of 10 cases. grub install from maverick fixed this
[21:33] <Andre_Gondim> I have installed natty alpha 1 and never upgrade yet, is it save do this?
[21:34] <nperry_> Andre_Gondim: may i ask what your doing on alpha 1 if you don't want a broken system?
[21:34] <nperry_> the point of it is to stay up to date to ensure everything works oks
[21:34] <Andre_Gondim> I made some upgrades, and about 3 days ago I had a crach, then I installed again from alpha 1 and don't upgrade again
[21:35] <nperry_> Did you report it?
[21:35] <nperry_> Did you look into why it happened?
[21:36] <Andre_Gondim> not, but if this happens again I will
[21:36] <nperry> Good answer :-)
[21:36] <nperry> If your ever stuck, just ask in here, sure someone might have the same problem
[21:37] <Andre_Gondim> thanks ;)
[21:46] <nperry> Not unity update today,normally lands on a thursday
[22:25] <Some_Person> Does natty include unity yet?
[22:26] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:31] <Amaranth> Some_Person: Oh yeah, it's fun!
[22:31] <Amaranth> (run for your life)
[22:31] <Some_Person> Amaranth: Really bad?
[22:31] <Amaranth> Some_Person: Nah, just no where near done
[22:31] <Amaranth> Some_Person: What is there works well but what is there isn't much
[22:32] <rww> Works better than 10.10's does, imho :\
[22:32] <jamalta> Amaranth: why do you say that? it works well...
[22:32] <rww> but yeah, definitely not finished.
[22:32] <jamalta> I mean, there's a lot of features being worked on
[22:32] <jamalta> They'll be done with time :)
[22:32] <Amaranth> rww: That was true from day 1, due to using compiz :)
[22:32] <rww> yup :)
[22:32] <Amaranth> jamalta: On one hand more features are great, on the other more features means more work for me...
[22:33] <jamalta> Amaranth: why is that?
[22:34] <Amaranth> jamalta: Because I'm porting the whole thing to OpenGL ES 2
[22:34] <jamalta> i see
[22:34]  * Some_Person just watched a video demoing unity in natty alpha 1
[22:35] <Amaranth> Some_Person: You get the dock, a button that opens `nautilus /usr/share/applications`, and the indicators
[22:35] <Some_Person> The bar thing on the side reminds me a lot of the Windows 7 taskbar
[22:35] <Amaranth> Some_Person: and you can't rearrange anything on said dock right now (although DBO says that works in trunk)
[22:36] <jamalta> Amaranth: why's that?
[22:36] <Amaranth> jamalta: Because unity isn't done yet
[22:37] <Some_Person> I'm not so sure I like how the applications will be on the side, but the thing I want to see most is how applications will be opened
[22:38] <Some_Person> maverick's implementation with the fullscreen application chooser seems slow and a bit counter-productive to me, so I'm hoping they can come up with something better than that
[22:39] <jamalta> Amaranth: I mean, why are you porting it to OpenGL ES 2?
[22:39] <Some_Person> Still, after watching this video, I feel a bit less worried about unity
[22:40] <Amaranth> jamalta: Because I want to get paid ;)
[22:40] <Amaranth> jamalta: Doing it for Linaro
[22:40] <jamalta> Amaranth: Haha, I understand if it is a part of your job.. I was just curious as to the reasoning.
[22:41] <Amaranth> jamalta: Well, mobile devices use OpenGL ES...
[22:41] <jamalta> Yeah
[22:41] <jamalta> I just wanted to know what the goal was.. meaning, if there was a push to get Unity working on mobile devices
[22:41] <jamalta> Makes sense for Linaro :)
[22:43] <jamalta> I was just being curious, that's all.
[23:05] <slayer> i wanna to install beowulf clustering without hard disk. but i dont know what services i chould install
[23:05] <rww> !crossposting | slayer
[23:06] <slayer> help mmmmeeeeeeee???
[23:06] <rww> slayer: You've asked the same thing both here and in #ubuntu. Depending on which version of Ubuntu you're using, it's offtopic for one of the two channels. In addition, posting to multiple channels is rather rude.
[23:07] <slayer> i use ubuntu server
[23:07] <charlie-tca> asked in #ubuntu-devel too
[23:07] <rww> fun
[23:07] <rww> slayer: Which version of Ubuntu Server?
[23:08] <slayer> 10.10
[23:08] <rww> slayer: Then continue asking for help in #ubuntu. This channel is for discussion and support of the development version of Ubuntu, 11.04.
[23:08] <charlie-tca> rww: would server be able to help better with that?
[23:08] <rww> or #ubuntu-server, yes.
[23:09] <rww> I suspect there aren't many people with experience in the subject anywhere, though :\
[23:10] <rww> charlie-tca: did they use a different nickname in -devel, too?
[23:11] <charlie-tca> I think I screwed up
[23:12] <charlie-tca> too many channels and not enough brains today
[23:12] <rww> hah. I have days like that :)
[23:16] <nit-wit> charlie-tca, whats going on
[23:17] <charlie-tca> fun and games!
[23:23] <coz_> anyone know who might be packaging the compiz plugins extra
[23:24] <coz_> I'll ask again later ,,,have to break here
[23:35] <radi> hello
[23:35] <radi> can anyone tell me where to get latest unstable version of kde ?
[23:35] <radi> ive updated from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, but can i do more ? have kubuntu
[23:37] <radi> can i upgrade without reinstalling every time lord
[23:37] <radi> ups not here