/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/16/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

ibuclawsogepp, hint: you can debug shell scripts with 'bash -v'00:01
vader95hi, does anybody know how to install an averatec touch screen on 1000:01
vader95.1000:01
ibuclaw(if you want to find the root cause of the problem)00:01
sogeppi got this message00:06
sogeppW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repos.zend.com server/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repos.zend.com_zend-server_deb_dists_server_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)00:06
sogepphow to fix it ??00:07
ibuclawsogepp, comment out the duplicate00:07
ibuclawsogepp, it's just a warning though.00:08
ibuclawerrors are prefixed with E:00:09
sogeppi see00:09
ibuclawsources are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list, or in any file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d00:10
ibuclawcan be edited with a text editor (using root privileges)00:10
ibuclawor via software sources app00:11
sogeppdone00:13
sogeppso quiet00:39
tenach...too quiet.00:39
gstarx90WHAT WAS THAT00:40
gstarx90oops00:40
sogeppyeall00:40
sogepplet's talkin'00:41
sogeppguys00:41
gstarx90hi00:42
sogepphi00:42
gstarx90hi.00:43
sogepphi..00:43
gstarx90hi00:46
stephen__Is this the right place for people that have absolutely no idea what they're doing?00:47
stephen__Thanks, bubbaloo00:47
UndiFineDstephen__, yes00:47
sogepphi too00:47
sogeppha ha00:47
bubbalooostephen__, no problem lots of veyr knowledgeable people on here at times00:48
bubbalooovery00:48
sogeppguys, have u tried another distro00:48
stephen__So, after just switching from Windows, I had a terribly difficult time even getting into irc.00:48
UndiFineDso .. what do you want to do ?00:48
bubbalooosogepp, name one I haven't00:48
stephen__Well, I got everything set up, and I was wondering how to install .jar files.00:49
gstarx90you don't, you just run them00:49
gstarx90minecraft?00:49
gstarx90:D00:49
stephen__Actually, yeah.00:49
UndiFineDstephen__, jar is java compiled, and need java runtime envronment00:49
sogeppwohoho, nice bubbaloo00:49
UndiFineD!jre00:49
ubot2To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.00:49
sogeppso, wich is lighter, opensuse or ubuntu,00:50
bubbalooosogepp, just a friendly little fun. ;)00:50
stephen__Alright, you're talking repositories, and exclamation points, and that's past me.00:50
UndiFineDhehehe00:51
bubbalooosogepp, I ran opensuse I think not sure about the difference do you have low ram or cpu00:51
stephen__the repositories are where all of the applications and updates are held, right?00:51
gstarx90yes00:51
UndiFineDstephen__, ok, so you need a step by step then00:51
gstarx90stephen__: open up the synaptic package manager in system -> administration -> synaptic package manager00:51
gstarx90search sun-java6, and then install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin00:52
sogeppnot exactly, it just my notebook seems getting hot too much when i use ubuntu,00:52
UndiFineDgstarx90, I was thinking ubuntu software center00:52
stephen__Alright.00:52
stephen__It's open00:52
bubbalooosogepp, I just did a Vbox of archbang it is very light and really arch for dummies, I felt right at home.00:52
sogeppi use toshiba l510 with core2duo , 2gb ram, and intel gma 4500 graphics card00:52
UndiFineDstephen__, Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center , open it and type java00:53
gstarx90alright, in the quick search, search sun-java600:53
bubbalooosogepp, archbang has alive cd00:53
stephen__install java6 runtime?00:53
sogeppbubbaloo, is it possible to compile a proper driver for intell graphics card??00:53
gstarx90install, sun-java6-bin sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-plugin00:53
UndiFineDmy first entry says : OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime00:54
bubbalooosogepp, I suspect that there are drivers availble from a ppa like xswat but doing it by compiling I just don't know. My cards work out of the box00:54
UndiFineDany jre  will do most of the time00:54
gstarx90that's why said said synaptic UndiFineD ;)00:54
UndiFineDanyway, check it, press install or apply and it gets installed00:55
stephen__Alright, I'm a quarter the way there.  Do you know the best place to go to teach the basic commands?00:56
gstarx90stephen__: sudo apt-get install <packagename> to install a package00:56
stephen__Whenever I ask my friend about how to do anything, he's always telling me "-sudo" and such in terminal, and I'm at a complete loss.  I tried looking different things up, and they're all just confusing as mess.00:56
UndiFineDstephen__, we have a mentor programme where people willing can teach you almost anything00:56
UndiFineDhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam00:57
gstarx90stephen__: well sudo is an elevation of privileges to do something00:57
stephen__gotcha00:58
stephen__E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)00:58
stephen__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:58
gstarx90stephen__: you need to close synaptic00:58
stephen__And then the java file stopped installing.00:58
gstarx90wat?00:58
gstarx90no00:59
stephen__I was installing it in the Ubuntu Software Center, and then I tried running the terminal with the "sudo" commands.00:59
stephen__It ended the ubuntu software center.  I re-opened it, and now it's done installing.00:59
gstarx90alright, try running minecraft now, you might need to set it as executable, right click the file, properties01:00
gstarx90permissions, click set program as executable01:00
gstarx90and then close that and then right click it again, click open with java01:00
stephen__Bahaha. You guys are awesome.01:00
stephen__Alright01:01
stephen__I'll check out the beginner's team01:01
gstarx90stephen__: install graphics card drivers and disable compiz for better speeds01:01
aveilleuxgstarx90, stephen__: Minecraft's executable is a Java program, but it's not run as an executable. It doesn't need execute permissions to run, since you're actually opening the file in the Java interpreter (which is an exectuable).01:02
stephen__I'm running a laptop with an integrated graphics card, idk if that makes any difference.01:02
UndiFineDhardly stephen__01:03
UndiFineDmost graphics cards can do stuff for compiz today01:03
stephen__So I still need to install the integrated card's drivers?01:04
stephen__And you want me to end the compiz process?01:04
aveilleuxgstarx90, stephen__: From a command line, you'd want to put the -jar flag (ie. java -jar minecraft.jar), since Java doesn't automagically detect whether or not it's a jar01:04
UndiFineDgstarx90, I doubt if disabling compiz is what every user wants01:05
stephen__that's what i just did01:05
gstarx90it improves some speeds in my experience01:05
UndiFineDgstarx90, natty, our next release depends on it01:05
aveilleuxUndiFineD: Much to my chagrin01:06
UndiFineDaveilleux, I can imagine that01:06
stephen__how do i start up compiz again?01:06
gstarx90odear, so if it's disabled....01:06
stephen__It's not disabled, I just ended the process.01:06
gstarx90stephen__: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects01:07
aveilleuxstephen__: In command line, you can run compiz --replace & #YOU MUST INCLUDE THE AMPERSAND01:07
UndiFineDstephen__, system -> preferences -> appearance01:07
aveilleuxstephen__: Otherwise, what the others have said01:07
gstarx90thecapsaresrsbro01:07
UndiFineD:) aveilleux01:07
stephen__I can't get to visual effects, after I ended compiz, it just threw everything off on my computer..01:08
stephen__I think I'm going to restart.01:08
UndiFineDno need01:08
gstarx90wat01:08
gstarx90not bubbalooo too01:08
gstarx90;-;01:08
UndiFineDnit-wit,01:09
nit-witUndiFineD, yes01:10
UndiFineDcan i pm ?01:10
nit-wityes01:10
gstarx90hi stephen, welcome back01:11
Guest53741Thanks! I guess that was a lesson well learned. ;)01:11
nit-witdo I do something to accept or access this a bit IRC, not so savvy01:11
UndiFineDGuest53741, is stephen ?01:11
Guest53741If you don't know what it is, don't end it. ?01:11
UndiFineD<gstarx90> stephen__: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects01:12
UndiFineD<aveilleux> stephen__: In command line, you can run compiz --replace & #YOU MUST INCLUDE THE AMPERSAND01:12
sogeppanyone know channel for puppy linux ???01:12
Guest53741Okay, cool. And, yeah, Stephen__01:12
Guest53741Aw, dang. I didn't save my minecraft levels. xP01:14
gstarx90minecraft saves are stored inside your computer01:15
gstarx90that is what i don't like about the game :[01:15
Guest53741Thanks a ton, you guys.  You made sense of non-sense.01:16
Guest53741I'll probably be back eventually. ;)01:19
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FredFlinstonei need help with making my new ubuntu machine visible on my windows lan01:50
holsteinhmm01:50
holsteinFredFlinstone: define 'visible'01:50
holsteinand 'windows LAN'01:50
holsteinand we'll go from there01:50
holsteinyou want to share files?01:50
UndiFineDFredFlinstone, you need samba for that01:51
holstein!samba01:51
ubot2Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:51
UndiFineDnit-wit, is your irc working correctly now ?01:56
nit-witI'm recoginzied but locked out of the ##windows I need to login01:57
nit-witmight have been banned who knows lol01:57
UndiFineDnit-wit, no you have not been banned01:59
FredFlinstoneyeah i want to have my windows boxes shares mounted in ubuntu, and vice versa02:02
FredFlinstonejust installed samba http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/05/how-to-setup-samba-in-linux.html02:02
FredFlinstoneor i am trying02:02
FredFlinstoneup to here i was ok, this failed = Step 8: Now type sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart to restart samba02:03
FredFlinstonehow do i restart samba?02:04
holsteinyou can always logout and back in02:04
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64866102:04
FredFlinstonethAt will kill everything tho right?02:05
holsteinthe logout?02:05
holsteinit will log you out02:05
holsteinbut that link has sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart02:06
holsteinin it02:06
FredFlinstoneTry System->Administration->Services ? i don't have that02:06
holsteinright02:07
holsteinthat would be for an older verion of ubuntu02:07
holsteinBUT sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart02:07
holsteinshould work02:07
FredFlinstonesudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found02:07
FredFlinstonerebooting , brb02:08
holsteinFredFlinstone: try googling the exact ubuntu verion you have02:08
holsteinand restart samba02:08
holsteini havent used samba in a few verions02:08
holsteinhey02:09
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-installation02:09
holsteinsudo restart smbd02:09
holsteinfrom02:09
holstein!samba02:09
ubot2Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.02:10
holstein^^ that would be for 10.0402:10
holsteini bet it works in 10.10 though02:10
FredFlinstonerebooting , brb02:10
FredFlinstoneok i can see the machine from an xp, but i don't see any shares i did auto config in ntfs config for the 4 partitions across 3 drives, first frive has two shares02:17
FredFlinstonewhat is autoconfig?02:17
FredFlinstonedid i screw up?02:17
holsteinFredFlinstone: congrats :)02:19
holsteinyou got a good start on it02:19
FredFlinstone:)02:19
holsteinSO, you can see the share you made in ubuntu on XP?02:19
holsteinOH02:19
holsteinyou can see the box in general showing up02:19
FredFlinstoneno, i can see the ubuntu machine with only one thing in the list, printers and faxes02:20
holsteinlet me look around02:20
holsteinthere was a package i used02:20
holsteina GUI02:20
holsteinmight be gone now02:20
holsteinthis was 9.04 i think...02:20
FredFlinstoneterminal is ok, long as i know what to do :)02:20
holsteinyeah, i wont remember any of that though02:20
FredFlinstonei have set up my credentials file and user and enabled it and that from that webpage02:21
holsteini remember working on permissions for a while02:22
holsteinlet my look at gadmin-samba02:23
holsteinthe package i used is not there anymore02:23
holsteini remember having decent luck with pyneighborhood02:24
holsteinbut that was going the other way02:24
FredFlinstonepath = /media/drive public = yes writable = yes  create mask = 0777  directory mask = 0777  force user = nobody  force group = nogroup02:25
FredFlinstonethis is my next thing and looks wrong'02:25
holsteingadmin-samba is looking a lot like the tool i used02:26
holsteinBUT i had a book at the time02:26
FredFlinstonei think public = no and user = myonlyuser ?02:26
holsteinthat i loaned out02:26
holsteinthe book helped me02:26
holsteinand i wish i could recall :/02:26
holsteinFredFlinstone: make a little noise though, im sure some samba guru will be along :)02:26
FredFlinstonei can try the samba channel02:27
FredFlinstonewell maybe someone will come around in one of the channels02:29
FredFlinstone#samba seems dead02:30
holsteinFredFlinstone: you got a loco channel?02:30
holsteina local ubuntu team channel..02:30
FredFlinstonei doubt it02:30
holsteinhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/02:30
FredFlinstonepath = /media/drive02:34
FredFlinstoneit wants ? sda or something?02:34
FredFlinstonehow do i determine this?02:34
FredFlinstonethe drive is called backups to the windows part of things02:35
FredFlinstonepath = /media/backups ?02:35
FredFlinstonethAT cant be right02:35
holsteinpath should do it02:35
holsteinsudo fdisk -l02:35
FredFlinstonepath = /media/ ...02:35
FredFlinstoneok02:36
holsteinFredFlinstone: OH02:36
holsteinyou want to share a whole drive?02:36
holsteinyou might have to mount it to a directory02:36
holsteinand share that path via samba02:36
FredFlinstonei want to mount all three drives02:36
holsteinnot sure, i didnt try that02:37
FredFlinstoneshare02:37
holsteini did a printer02:37
holsteinand a couple folers02:37
holsteinfolders*02:37
holsteinno reason why you can mount them /where/ever02:37
holsteinand share /where/ever02:37
nit-withajour, thaks for your help02:39
nit-witthanks02:39
nit-witholstein, I lost the open source music channel02:39
holsteinOH02:39
holsteinnit-wit: #opensourcemusicians :)02:40
hajouryour welcome nitwit02:40
nit-withajour, I'm going to sihn off but i will be back I sure02:42
nit-witsign02:42
hajourok nit-wit :)02:42
hajoursleep wel nit-wit02:42
nit-withajour, :)02:43
FredFlinstonesorry holstein  i had to answer the door02:50
FredFlinstonei'll check that music channel out myself, sometime02:51
holsteinFredFlinstone: please do :)02:52
FredFlinstonesdb1 , ntfs,  about 1tb is one02:53
FredFlinstonepath = /media/sdb102:55
FredFlinstonepublic = yes, i say no?02:55
holsteindepends i guess02:55
FredFlinstonein smb.conf thAT is02:55
holsteinif i just had 2 boxes on the network02:55
holsteinand a firewall02:55
FredFlinstonei only have one username and pass for all machines02:55
holsteinand it was a desktop machine02:55
holsteini might do public02:56
holsteinFredFlinstone: shoule be fine then with the user/pass scenario02:56
holstein*in theory02:56
holsteinFredFlinstone: you can always test public02:56
holsteinand go back afterward02:56
holsteinand lock it down02:56
FredFlinstoneok,. also my nvidia settings will not stay even tho i save it02:56
FredFlinstone1280 goes down to 1024  every boot02:57
holsteinFredFlinstone: on mine02:57
holsteini made a custom xorg.conf finally02:57
holstein10.04 box02:57
holstein64bit02:58
holsteini forget the hardware02:58
holsteinsome integrated nvidia GPU02:58
holsteini cheated ;)02:58
holsteini booted a knoppix disc02:58
FredFlinstonei have a msi n210 md512h02:58
holsteinand the desktop looked right02:58
holsteinSO i grabbed the xorg.conf from there02:58
holsteinmessed with it a bit02:58
holsteinand put it in buntu02:59
FredFlinstonehmm02:59
FredFlinstoneand ..02:59
FredFlinstone** (gksudo:2136): WARNING **: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap:02:59
FredFlinstone        /home/fred/.themes/Cillop-Midnite/gtk-2.0/null.png,02:59
FredFlinstonehow to fix that?02:59
gstarx90that depends on the gtk theme02:59
holsteinyeah, id probably bail on the theme03:00
FredFlinstoneok, so for the share  (which may work now) where are my services? i need to either reboot or restart samba03:01
FredFlinstonesudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found03:01
holsteintry sudo restart smbd03:01
FredFlinstoneit is true - file is not there03:02
FredFlinstoneok03:03
FredFlinstoneworked, i think03:03
FredFlinstonesmbd start/running, process 219203:03
FredFlinstoneNOW can see the share but cannot access, does not give login prompt03:04
UndiFineDsamba needs a windows machine user i think03:04
holsteinhmmm03:04
holsteini would think you'll get a prompt03:04
holsteini think you just set up the users and it 'works'03:05
holsteinmaybe not....03:05
UndiFineDso whatever username is used on windows can be made available on samba03:05
FredFlinstonefrom a xp user with creds and without , same result03:06
FredFlinstonei tried from one of my boxes, and a friends03:06
FredFlinstonemine should have worked at least?03:06
FredFlinstonegotta be permissions03:07
zkriessestarcraftman: ZERGLINGS!03:09
MrAnthropeSomeone have a sec to explain what "Connector" means in Sound Preferences under the Input tab. Trying to get my mic to work and there are like 10 connectors and I have no idea which one I need to be using.03:20
holsteinMrAnthrope: internal mic?03:21
holsteinor a mic you plug in?03:21
MrAnthropea mic you plug in through a 3.5mm jack03:21
holsteinMrAnthrope: where do you see 'connector' ?03:21
MrAnthropeI get some kind of feedback noise on some of them.03:22
Mohan_chmlMrAnthrope, Microphone1/line-in03:22
holsteincould be something specific to your hardware03:22
MrAnthropeIn the Sound Preferences settings. Input tab.03:22
MrAnthropeinput volume. Input level. Connector.03:22
holsteini have 'internal audio analog stereo'03:22
holsteinhmmm03:23
MrAnthropeanalog microphone / input 1 / microphone 103:23
holsteinMrAnthrope: is this 10.10 ?03:23
MrAnthropeanalog microphone / input 2 / microphone 103:23
MrAnthrope10.0403:23
holsteincool03:23
holsteinthats me too03:23
MrAnthropeanalog microphone / input 1 / microphone 203:23
MrAnthropeanalog microphone / input 2 / microphone 203:23
holsteinthose labels dont have to be correct03:23
MrAnthropeanalog line-in / input 103:24
holsteinfrom what i find03:24
holsteini usually just do a little trial and error03:24
holsteinand see if i can find what i need03:24
holsteinlook at03:24
holsteinalsamixer03:24
MrAnthropesome of them back bad noises. But it's not feedback because my mic isn't working.03:24
holsteinin a terminal03:24
MrAnthropemake bad noises*03:24
MrAnthropeYeah I was looking at that.03:24
holsteinhit F403:24
MrAnthropeI don't have a volume bar over my mic in alsamixer.03:24
MrAnthropeThat means it's not there, right?03:25
holsteinand you'll see the 'capture devices'03:25
holsteinMrAnthrope: not necessarily03:25
holsteinit could just not have volume control03:25
holsteinall the hardware is so different03:25
holsteinMrAnthrope: this is a desktop?03:25
MrAnthropeyes03:25
holsteinwhat card?03:25
MrAnthropeonboard.03:25
holsteinlspci03:26
holsteinhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/03:26
MrAnthropehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544270/03:27
holsteinyeah, VIA can be a pain03:27
MrAnthropeoi03:28
holsteini have one that dies when you open sound preferences ;)03:28
MrAnthropeYeah!03:28
holsteini mean, the good news is03:28
MrAnthropeSee I thought it was working.03:28
MrAnthropeAnd then I thought I was crazy.03:28
holsteinif you want to do anything with a mic03:28
holsteinyou should get an external interface anyways03:28
MrAnthropeawha?03:28
holsteinthat being said, we should be able to sort you out03:28
holsteindo you have a mixer at all?03:28
MrAnthropeFor strawberry daquiris.03:29
holsteinhehe03:29
MrAnthropeI'm not sure?03:29
holsteinMrAnthrope: what is your need for a mic?03:29
holsteinpodcasting?03:29
MrAnthropeTeamspeak.03:29
holsteinAH03:29
holsteinlest try and use your card then...03:29
holsteingive me03:30
holsteinaplay -l03:30
MrAnthropeI may have a spare audio card around here...03:30
holsteinand03:30
MrAnthropeI have no idea what it is.03:30
holsteinarecord -l03:30
holsteinMrAnthrope: that might be the path of least resistance03:30
holsteindisable the VIA card in the bios03:30
holsteinand use another one03:30
MrAnthropein bios... hmm...03:30
holsteinand keep checking back every release or so03:31
holsteinthe kernel team seems to be on it03:31
MrAnthropeHow do I get to my bios in Linux?03:31
holsteinits just the info VIA is sharing03:31
holsteinMrAnthrope: you have to do that when the machine boots up03:31
MrAnthropehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544272/03:31
holsteinusually F10 or escape or something like that03:31
MrAnthropeOk so it's the same as in Windows.03:32
MrAnthropeSorry I'm retarded :)03:32
MrAnthropeLet me dig around and see if I can find that card and see what brand it is.03:32
holsteinMrAnthrope: nah03:32
MrAnthrope...afk03:32
holsteinno worries :)03:32
MrAnthropeok found the card. Now to see if I have any extra PCI slots...03:37
holsteinMrAnthrope: how did it go?03:49
holsteini was going to say, you might want to rule out the software03:50
holsteinmaybe install skype03:50
holsteinskype has that call testing thing03:50
holsteinwhere it records you and you can hear it03:50
MrAnthropeWell I put the audio card in but there was no place to disable onboard audio in bios.03:50
MrAnthropeAnd now neither are working.03:50
holsteinOR just record you mic with gnomre recorder or whatever it is03:50
MrAnthropeSound Preferences doesn't list my hardware.03:50
MrAnthropeAnd lspci doesn't list multimedia audio junk anymore.03:51
holsteinhmmm03:51
holsteinyeah, you probably would want to be able to disable the VIA one03:51
MrAnthropeI saw video settings and junk. No audio. it's a very very old motherboard.03:51
holsteinyeah, sometimes they dont have the option03:52
MrAnthropei guess I will turn my computer off again and take out the audio card and hope my audio magically comes back lol.03:52
holsteinMrAnthrope: there are a couple more tricks03:52
holsteinon the VIA chip03:52
MrAnthropeok03:52
holsteinupdating alsa03:52
MrAnthropebrb.03:52
holstein:)03:52
MrAnthropeomg. It's totally working.03:58
MrAnthropeAll I had to do was threaten it with using another audio card.03:58
holsteinhehe04:01
holsteinMrAnthrope: cool04:01
MrAnthropeThanks for your help :)04:02
MrAnthropeI wonder what I did.04:02
holsteinsure, anytime, not sure i actually did anything, but its working :)04:02
MrAnthropelol moral support?04:03
holsteinhehe04:03
MrAnthropeSometimes I just need a partner in crime and I can figure out this linux stuff.04:03
holsteini hear you04:03
MrAnthropeAnd other times stuff just magically starts working.04:03
holsteinthis seems to be a good channel for that too04:03
MrAnthropelol04:03
MrAnthropeIt's a little too quiet in here but it's good for people who need in-depth help so they don't get lost in the wall of text that is #Ubuntu.04:04
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head_victimOooohhhh shiny +v04:47
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tenachhello st33med04:51
st33medHi tenach :)04:52
head_victimAlright, well the storm has passed over (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml) so I should head back to bed, work again tonight.04:52
FredFlinstoneanyone i got a timeout trying to share - //ASUS1/MEDIA/media/MEDIAcifscredentials=/home/fred/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=07770005:02
FredFlinstonethat is suposed to work05:02
FredFlinstoneit donmt05:02
FredFlinstoneit don't05:02
FredFlinstoneaccording to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:03
FredFlinstoneHELP!05:03
FredFlinstonei was under the section "Mount password protected network folders"05:03
holsteindid they mount without the passwords?05:04
MrAnthropeThe upload/download speeds listed in the system monitor... is that just for my computer, or is that for my whole network?05:05
holsteinMrAnthrope: depends05:05
holsteinis it the only computer on your network?05:06
MrAnthropeno05:06
holsteinit'll just be that box05:06
MrAnthropeMy computer has just randomly started uploading at 50KiB/s05:06
MrAnthropeAnd I have no idea what it's uploading.05:06
MrAnthropeXChat says I'm lagging by 10 seconds.05:06
holsteinupdate manger?05:07
holsteinsomething in the background like that, maybe05:07
MrAnthropePretty sure I have that set for like 3am.05:07
holsteinwell, you got a firewall?05:08
holsteinand your not running as root?05:08
MrAnthrope... I killed the update notifier and it seems to have stopped.05:08
FredFlinstonei give up05:08
holsteinFredFlinstone: maybe try opening everything up05:08
holsteinthe samba shares05:08
MrAnthropeWhy on earth would it be uploading at that speed? I didn't even know my internet connection could upload that quickly.05:08
holsteinsee if you can get it running the way you want05:09
holsteinunsecure05:09
holsteinand then lock it down05:09
FredFlinstoneholstein, do not know what you mean :)05:09
FredFlinstoneok first, i have the shares working from ubuntu05:10
holsteinFredFlinstone: totally, i gave up on samba plenty of times05:10
FredFlinstonenow i need them working to it05:10
holsteinthat last time i was talking about setting it up05:10
holsteineverything was working fine05:10
holsteinand it wasnt that bad05:11
holsteinthat was for someone else05:11
holsteinand i had already wiped all my windows boxes05:11
holsteinFredFlinstone: if you have a spare box05:11
FredFlinstoneWELL MAYBE TOMORROW, I HAVE HAD IT FOR NOW, THANKS FOR YOUR HELP05:11
FredFlinstoneoops05:11
holsteini found freeNAS to be a kind of learning experience05:11
FredFlinstonespare box for what?05:12
FredFlinstonei have some yes05:12
holsteinfor a freeNAS box05:12
holsteindoesnt have to be much05:12
holsteinhas a nice web GUI05:12
holsteinand you can run FTP ssh samba05:12
holsteinwhatever05:12
holsteinget in from buntu and windows easily05:12
FredFlinstonei have been into dos , windows, novell,  since 1982, but linux since 2008 and only when i can find time05:13
holsteincool05:14
holsteinyou'll get it then05:14
FredFlinstonei am SO fed up with microshaft it's unreal, used to be a dealer for them, i want to eventually help spread ubuntu around05:15
holsteinhehe05:16
FredFlinstonewindoww is STILL no good, win 7 is vista #2 (crap #2)05:16
holsteinworks for some i suppose05:16
holsteinim much happier not having windows running here anymore05:16
FredFlinstonewell as a win support person i have too many people with problems on new machines to be ok with win705:17
holsteinFredFlinstone: you need to share a lot of data?05:17
holsteinvia samba?05:17
holsteindropbox works great05:17
holsteinif you dont have it...05:17
holsteinhttp://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox05:18
FredFlinstonei now do av scans and such from win under vmware in ubuntu here05:18
FredFlinstonei have about 6tb online05:18
holsteinyeah... dropbox wont do that...05:18
holsteini just had a couple GB i really wanted to sync05:18
holsteinand some music that i used a server for05:18
FredFlinstonei have a small in-my-house repair shop, i also hold client backups05:19
holsteinhttp://sockso.pu-gh.com/05:19
holsteinFredFlinstone: yeah, you dont want to play around with that05:19
holsteinclient backups..05:19
FredFlinstoneyeah i am just a backup of a backup for them - no contracts , just im a nice guy :)05:20
FredFlinstonestill dont wanna lose any05:20
FredFlinstonewant to do a resize and very nervous on a full 1.5tb ntfs, have you used gparted for somthing like that?05:21
holsteinyeah, but i would do backups05:21
holsteini just did a couple resizes today05:22
FredFlinstoneunderstood, did you need the backups? :)05:22
holsteinchallenging when you have that much data05:22
holsteinFredFlinstone: i would05:22
holsteini mean, in theory, no05:22
holsteinbut anything could happen05:22
FredFlinstonei am gonna move half off first, no room to move it all05:23
holsteini usually hang on to backups for a certain amount of time05:24
holsteincouple months or a year05:24
holsteinand i tell the folks that05:24
=== bioterror is now known as PETOMAN
=== PETOMAN is now known as Le_Petomane
=== Le_Petomane is now known as bioterror
Hau5Mau5hi everyone07:51
tenachhi Hau5Mau507:52
broke_dwnhello08:37
Mohan_chmlHello broke_dwn08:38
broke_dwncould i get a bit of help...for a minute?08:38
broke_dwnplease08:38
Mohan_chmlShoot08:39
broke_dwni can't take myself out of the audio group08:40
broke_dwnthe buttons don't work in the user and groups menu08:40
broke_dwnhello?08:41
Mohan_chmlah! at the panel?08:41
broke_dwnyeah08:41
Mohan_chmlhave you upgraded the machine recently?08:41
Mohan_chmlor did any changes?08:41
Mohan_chmland it works fine with the main account?08:41
broke_dwnyeah...08:41
broke_dwni had no sound before that though08:42
broke_dwnbut never tried removing myself08:42
Mohan_chmlbutton works good in any one account?08:42
broke_dwnno08:42
broke_dwnnot in the panel08:42
broke_dwnin the user and groups MENU08:42
broke_dwni can't make changes08:43
Mohan_chmlyou mean system->administration->users and groups08:43
Mohan_chmland you want to disable audio for some users?08:43
Mohan_chmlaww buttons in it08:44
Mohan_chmlgive me a minute to look for it08:44
tenachbroke_dwn, I just replied to your thread;08:44
tenachbroke_dwn, when you are logged in, you are put into the audio group so that you can hear sounds08:44
tenachYou are taken out of it when you're not logged in.08:44
broke_dwnwhat thread...08:45
broke_dwnjk08:45
broke_dwnthanks08:45
tenachbroke_dwn, so I don't think you need to take yourself out of it unless you are having problems - but even then, I don't think you should really have to do so.08:45
broke_dwn...i have no sound regardless08:45
tenachbroke_dwn, then taking yourself out of audio won't fix that.08:45
broke_dwnok08:45
broke_dwnmy soundcard is installed properly08:46
broke_dwni know that08:46
tenachWhat sound card do you have?08:46
broke_dwni thought it was broke08:46
Mohan_chmltenach, thread please08:46
broke_dwnbut the bios sees it08:46
broke_dwnand the mic makes sounds08:46
tenachMohan_chml, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1024440808:46
broke_dwnbut Gnome Alsa doesn't see it08:46
broke_dwn....08:47
tenachbroke_dwn, is the sound umuted in System -> Preferences -> Sound?08:47
tenachbroke_dwn, what does it say under the 'hardware' tab on that screen?08:48
broke_dwnno08:48
broke_dwnno hardware appears08:48
broke_dwnbut i'll double check08:48
tenachbroke_dwn, okay.08:48
broke_dwnnope08:49
broke_dwnnot muted08:49
tenachbroke_dwn, what version of Ubuntu are you running?08:49
tenach10.10 ?08:49
broke_dwnmy sound worked perfectly for a while08:49
broke_dwnyes08:49
tenach32bit?08:50
broke_dwn10.1008:50
broke_dwnyes08:50
broke_dwni think08:50
tenachok08:50
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, please pastebin the result in typing 'lspci' in terminal08:50
broke_dwnmy laptop is old08:50
Mohan_chml!pastebin | broke_dwn08:50
ubot2broke_dwn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:50
tenachMohan_chml, I would sudo lshw -c sound08:51
tenachMohan_chml, er, either works.08:51
Mohan_chmltenach, so what about trying bringing the access to root account and checking?08:51
Mohan_chmltenach, (:08:51
hajourhai Axlin08:52
Axlinhello08:52
broke_dwnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544337/08:53
tenachhmm. it's not showing a sound card Mohan_chml08:53
Mohan_chml:|08:54
broke_dwnwow...08:54
broke_dwni know its installed the bios says so08:54
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, goto system-> administration -> hardware drivers08:54
tenachbroke_dwn, I understand. SOmetimes Ubuntu doesn't see things right away.08:54
broke_dwnit atttached to the motherboard08:54
broke_dwn...yes ok08:54
JoeMaverickSettbroke_dwn: additional drivers08:54
hajourAxlin,  need some help to ithink08:55
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, :P I am at Lucid08:55
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: upgrade!! XD08:55
Mohan_chmlNope08:55
JoeMaverickSett:|08:55
tenachbroke_dwn, could you pastebin the results of08:55
tenachsudo lshw -c sound08:55
hajouruhm anyone can 1 of you help Axlin ?08:56
tenachAxlin, what'cha need help with?08:56
hajourgreat thanks:)08:56
Axlinhm? i didn't need help with anything08:56
tenachhajour, no problem.08:57
Axlinyou may be mistaking me for somebody else. thanks though08:57
tenachAxlin, Okay. :D08:57
hajoura ok thought so sorry then08:57
tenachNice to see you here in any case! :)08:57
Axlinno worries :)08:57
Axlinhaha thanks08:57
hajouroften come s a new one here dont say nothing but need help so ...08:58
broke_dwnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544344/08:58
broke_dwn...08:58
tenachbroke_dwn, sorry, should be sudo lshw -c sound08:59
broke_dwnnothing...it disapeared09:00
tenachHm. okay.09:00
broke_dwn...seriously09:00
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, okay09:00
tenachMohan_chml, can you take over? I'm going to do some research.09:00
Mohan_chmlit is not identifying your driver09:00
Mohan_chmltenach, will give a try :)09:01
broke_dwnthere are no proprietary drivers on this system09:01
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, goto system-> administration -> additional drivers09:01
Mohan_chmlah!09:01
broke_dwnsay the menu of hardware drivers09:01
broke_dwni cant go there09:01
broke_dwni went sudo09:02
broke_dwni dont have that menu09:02
JoeMaverickSettbroke_dwn: on your gnome-panel, System tab?09:02
broke_dwnim in openbox09:02
broke_dwnthe menu is not paneled09:03
broke_dwn...no luck09:03
JoeMaverickSettbroke_dwn: try jockey-gtk from the terminal09:04
broke_dwni'd have to log out and log back in...09:04
broke_dwnwhich would be most inconvienient09:04
broke_dwnhow?09:04
broke_dwnno proprietary drivers are in use on this system09:05
broke_dwnit says09:05
broke_dwn...09:06
JoeMaverickSettbroke_dwn: could you try the command: jockey-gtk from the terminal?09:06
broke_dwni did09:06
broke_dwnthats what came up09:06
JoeMaverickSett:O09:06
broke_dwnwhat!09:06
broke_dwn....yse u09:07
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, your hardware is not detectd09:07
broke_dwnso?09:07
tenachbroke_dwn, is it integrated into your motherboard or a separate card?09:07
broke_dwn...is that bad09:07
broke_dwnlike explode in your face bad?09:07
broke_dwn...09:07
tenachNope.09:08
broke_dwnahh...damn09:08
tenachIs it integrated or a separate card?09:08
broke_dwnintegrated09:08
tenachokay.09:08
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure09:08
Mohan_chmlmay be that will help you09:08
broke_dwni went there09:08
broke_dwndoesnt woprk09:08
broke_dwni'll re check09:09
Mohan_chmlah!09:09
Mohan_chmlokies09:09
Mohan_chmltenach, then re-install kernel?09:09
tenachhang on :)09:09
Mohan_chml(:09:09
broke_dwnwhat09:10
broke_dwnthat would take hours on end...09:10
tenachbroke_dwn, no it wouldn't.  The kernel is a relatively small piece of Ubuntu.09:10
broke_dwnoh09:11
broke_dwn:P09:11
broke_dwnok09:11
broke_dwnwhat do i do?09:11
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, check whether the link I provided helps09:13
tenachMohan_chml, I don't think it will because Ubuntu doesn't know there's a sound card.09:13
Mohan_chmlawwh!09:14
broke_dwn...so?09:14
broke_dwn...damn09:14
broke_dwnjust suffer?09:14
tenachbroke_dwn, desktop or laptop?09:14
broke_dwnlaptop09:15
tenachWhat brand and model is it?09:15
broke_dwndell latitude c61009:15
broke_dwn....09:17
broke_dwnhello?09:19
Mohan_chmlI have no arrows to shoot except a re-install or may be try Lucid if it again fails09:19
* tenach is still looking around09:20
broke_dwni don't have a cd drive anymore09:20
broke_dwn:)09:20
broke_dwnthis sucks big time09:20
broke_dwnwindows might suck, but at least i can hear people tell me09:20
broke_dwnmy laptop is old09:20
broke_dwn*09:21
tenachOkay so09:21
tenachyour laptop has an ac97 soundcard in it, and there's a bug in 10.10 - checking to see if it was solved.09:22
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, try remaining patient =]09:23
broke_dwni am09:24
broke_dwnim just trying to humor you09:24
broke_dwn...thank for the help09:24
broke_dwnits finals week09:24
broke_dwni'm still here09:28
broke_dwnobviously09:28
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, try putting a Live USB of 10.10 and check whether the sound works09:29
Mohan_chmlthere is no sound issue in that card recently09:29
Mohan_chmlwe are still checking it09:29
broke_dwncant...boot from usb09:29
Mohan_chmlwhy?09:29
broke_dwni cant boot from usb09:29
Mohan_chmlwhy?09:29
broke_dwnold computer...i've tried09:29
Mohan_chmlwhat happened when you tried?09:30
broke_dwn...nothing09:30
Mohan_chmlyou pressed f12 and set the boot option?09:30
broke_dwni dont remeber, nor have a usb to try again09:30
Mohan_chmlor in the BIOS options?09:30
tenachbroke_dwn, sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base09:30
broke_dwn...i cant updta my bios without floppy09:31
broke_dwntenach, ok09:31
tenachThat's the last thing I can think of. Wish I could be of more help.09:31
broke_dwnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544351/09:34
broke_dwndid it work?09:34
broke_dwn....09:35
Mohan_chmlNo09:35
broke_dwnlolz, plenty lolz09:35
broke_dwnthtas linux for you09:35
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, we cant say any other options except a reinstall09:35
broke_dwnhes become aware09:35
broke_dwn...there are other option...09:36
broke_dwnoh well09:36
broke_dwntheres a bug09:36
broke_dwnwhy would i reinstall09:36
Mohan_chmlif there is something you have done on the back unknowingly, then, a Live CD or USB can check09:37
Mohan_chmlmaybe you played with the dispatcher09:38
broke_dwnhow would i do that09:39
broke_dwni did prank call 911 before09:39
broke_dwnthats about it..09:39
broke_dwnany help?09:39
hajourhai broke_dwn09:40
broke_dwnhi09:40
hajouri think there away a moment.09:41
Mohan_chmlwhen you had your audio worked and is not working now, then you did something unknowingly on the back09:41
broke_dwnhow09:41
broke_dwnupdate?09:41
hajoura there you are09:41
Mohan_chmlyou had your audio work, when you installed right?09:41
hajourok by :)09:41
broke_dwn...maybe09:41
broke_dwni had sound after that09:41
broke_dwni think09:41
broke_dwnyeas09:41
broke_dwnyes09:42
Mohan_chmlbroke_dwn, try restarting and get into the older kernel versions09:42
broke_dwnok09:42
broke_downit says i have to load kernel first...09:46
Mohan_chmlyou changed something recently?09:46
Mohan_chmlor deleted some entries?09:46
hajourhai timo09:47
Timo_hey hajour09:47
hajourclose to purmerend the beemster09:47
hajourdo you need help?09:48
broke_downno09:48
broke_downi dont think i did09:48
broke_downi shut down and logged back in09:48
broke_downit was broke_dwn09:48
Mohan_chmlwhen it says that you have to load kernels first, I think it is missing the kernel09:49
broke_downoh...09:49
Mohan_chmlif you can get into recovery mode, then try setting password for root and give a try09:50
broke_downhow?09:52
Mohan_chmlbroke_down, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:54
broke_downto set password?09:54
Mohan_chmlyeah you have to set password and then have to login into root09:55
broke_downi know my root password...09:57
Mohan_chmlbroke_down, tried logging intot hat account?09:57
broke_downno09:59
broke_downhow09:59
Mohan_chmllogin name root and password you have09:59
broke_downbut root is not an option10:01
broke_down...10:01
Mohan_chmlthen you have to enable root account from the recovery mode10:01
broke_downits late10:01
broke_downi'll try again...10:01
broke_downhow10:02
Mohan_chmlbroke_down, the only way I know is checking with Live CD or USB10:02
broke_downgood night10:02
ibuclawsudo slap wrists10:06
Mohan_chmlibuclaw, you want my super user to do that? :D JK10:07
* Mohan_chml slaps himself10:07
nishihi11:00
Mohan_chmlHello11:00
nishineed help with the Ubuntu 10.1011:00
nishitop and bottom panels are not getting displayed11:01
bioterroralt+f2 gnome-panel11:01
bioterroror something like that11:01
bioterrorshould show them11:01
nishigot that \11:02
nishishowing the error in ~/.xsession-errors11:02
bioterror!pastebin | nishi11:02
ubot2nishi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:02
bioterrorcould you pastebin it to use11:03
nishiits on my desktop which i cannot take snpshot of11:03
nishiif you want i can assist you with specific error11:04
bioterroropen terminal11:04
bioterrorand say: sudo killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel11:04
bioterroryou can open terminal with alt+f211:04
nishialready on the terminal now by pressing the alt+f211:05
nishinow what needs be done11:07
bioterrorThu13:04 <+bioterror> and say: sudo killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel11:07
nishidone that11:07
bioterrordid you get panels back+11:07
bioterror?11:08
nishierror is prompted after issuing the command yu mentioned:11:08
bioterrorwhat kind of error11:09
nishiGtk-WARNING **: cannot open display11:09
bioterrorw00t11:09
nishithats the error i m getting11:09
nishiwhat can be done in this case11:12
bioterrorcan you open any programs?11:12
nishilike  ?11:13
bioterrorfirefox?11:13
nishihow to switch back to the desktop from the terminal now11:14
bioterroroh11:15
bioterroryou're using CONSOLE (TTY)11:15
nishiyeah11:15
bioterrorctrl+alt+f1 is what you pressed11:15
nishiyes11:15
bioterrorofcourse it doesnt open graphical programs11:15
bioterrorf7 is X11:15
bioterrorI never said to use ctrl-alt-f211:15
bioterrorI said to use alt+f2 to open "launch" window11:16
nishicould you wait11:16
nishiguess i messed up11:16
nishibasically whats happening is when i log in ...the user gets kicked off and sign in window appears again...after fooling sometime in console ...i can get to GUI but without the panels...11:17
nishinow again the same issue is happening11:18
bioterrorthat sounds like you're having a wrong uummmm11:18
bioterrorsession started11:18
nishican log in the User profile but get kicked off immediately even before the desktop loads properly11:18
bioterrorI think you've had xubuntu or something else installed11:19
bioterrorand now using ubuntu11:19
bioterrorand it tries to start xubuntu-session and cant find it and brings back to gdm11:19
bioterrorcheck your session settings11:19
nishino thats the UBUNTU 10.10....freshly installed ...was working yesterday11:19
bioterrorthe default can be wrong11:19
bioterrormake a new default11:19
nishihow to check the session settings11:19
nishi???11:19
bioterrorfrom login screen11:19
nishiyeah those are correct ones11:20
nishiwhats a user defined session11:20
nishi>>11:21
nishidigisol12311:21
bioterrorchoose another Ubuntu session11:21
bioterrorasdasd -another11:21
bioterrorchoose ubuntu session, if there's one named that one11:21
nishii got ubuntu desktop edition ....in session list along with recovery console, user defined session and safe mode11:22
nishiwhich one to choose ....default was ubuntu desktop edition11:22
bioterrortake the ubuntu desktop edition11:22
nishiwas using the same earlier11:22
nishisorry the issue is still there... the user gets kicked off...the Desktop appears along with all panels and then returns back to the log in screen11:24
bioterrorneeds more thinking11:26
nishii can get the screen properly with the safe mode11:26
bioterrorI would delete .gnome2*11:32
bioterrorcould solve problems :D11:32
Mohan_chmlnishi, just type the commands in the link and give a try11:32
Mohan_chmlhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4663517&postcount=911:32
bioterrorMohan_chml, panels arent problem anymore11:32
Mohan_chmlaww11:32
bioterrorseems like she/he cant log in11:32
Mohan_chmlsorry missed the logs11:32
nishiits he ...11:35
nishi:)11:35
Silver_Fox_Hello.11:36
bioterrorhi fox11:36
nishii can log in with the UBUNTU safe mode and get all panels and stable desktop but with the Normal UBUNTU desktop mode ...it kicks me off11:36
bioterrornishi, you really could login to TTY again and do: rm -rf .gnome2*11:37
bioterrorthen try to login again from the GDM ;)11:37
bioterrorsince your installation is new11:37
bioterroryou dont have much to loose11:37
nishiwhat will this command do...remove the Gnome or what11:37
nishi...11:37
bioterrorjust some gnome configurations11:38
nishiok11:38
nishiwait...issueing the command11:38
nishidone11:39
nishinow what to do11:39
bioterrortry to login again from the login screen11:39
bioterrorwith ubuntu desktop edition11:39
nishisame issue :(11:41
nishidigisol12311:41
bioterrorhard to solve problem if it doesnt prompt anything11:42
bioterrorhmm11:46
nishiis there any issue of intel drivers or something11:46
bioterrorthat has nothing to do with graphics, I think11:46
bioterrorsince your login screen is working11:46
bioterrordid you do a upgrade or something before it broke up?11:47
nishiwhat if i use KDE with it since the GNOME seems to crash on this \11:47
bioterroryour choise11:47
nishino upgrades ...clean as a whistle11:47
nishibut how to do that11:47
nishican you guide me11:47
nishiget a KDE desktop11:47
bioterrorsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:48
bioterrorthen you have to remove gnome11:48
bioterrorhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde11:48
nishiok11:50
bioterroreasy like a monday morning :-)11:52
Mohan_chmlhe is still here?11:54
nishilooking at the command doesnt look like much ...;)11:54
Mohan_chmlnishi, got the problem cleared?11:54
nishinope not yet11:54
nishistill working on that11:54
Mohan_chmlnishi, maybe your home got filled11:54
Mohan_chmlcheck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38221311:54
nishino one partition ...120GB11:56
nishifull empty11:56
Mohan_chmlbioterror, you think there is any luck for that?11:56
Mohan_chmlnishi, what is the size of the ubuntu partition you have?11:56
bioterrorMohan_chml, 2007 :G11:56
bioterrorhard to say11:57
Mohan_chmlbioterror, but home can may be filled11:57
Mohan_chmlbrb11:58
nishii m still trying to figure out the huge commands on that link you gave me @bioterror\11:59
duanedesigndaniels development ucast http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-development-with-daniel-holbach12:03
engineerunity(11.04) is plugin for compiz?12:08
engineerunity(11.04) is plugin for compiz?12:09
nishifinally started the KDE installation on the system....12:21
duanedesignengineer: yes12:41
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harrisonkI am having some video card driver issues and I need to know where to start looking for a problem14:33
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, your card is not detected?14:41
harrisonkit "works" but only lspci shows anything14:41
harrisonkI can't run any openGL program14:42
harrisonkI tryed running Flight Gear and it gave me a segmentation fault14:42
Mohan_chmlhave you found the packages and tried installing manually?14:43
harrisonkpackages?14:43
harrisonkas in drivers?14:44
Mohan_chmlfor that video driver14:44
Mohan_chmlwhats the video driver? Nvdia?14:45
harrisonkwhat would the packages look like?14:45
harrisonkATI14:45
harrisonkATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01)14:45
harrisonkfrom lspci14:46
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, is is worthy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver14:46
Mohan_chmlI am searching for more solutions14:46
Mohan_chmlyou also do14:46
harrisonkI shall look14:46
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/48636714:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 486367 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "RV280 Radeon 9200 pro Hardware not fully supported. (affects: 6) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Expired]14:50
harrisonkdrat14:51
harrisonkbut it was working before14:51
Mohan_chml:(14:51
harrisonkhow odd14:51
Mohan_chmland that bug also was set as expired14:51
harrisonkmohan_chml: have you ever used FG? (flightgear)14:53
Mohan_chmlnope14:53
harrisonkit's fun14:53
harrisonkit's a flight simulator14:53
* Mohan_chml is nomming now14:53
Mohan_chmlxD14:53
harrisonkah what time is it there?14:54
Mohan_chml20:1814:54
harrisonkit's 9:54 here14:54
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, I am ahead of you :P14:56
harrisonkwhat day is it where you are?14:57
Mohan_chmlDec 1614:57
harrisonkthe 16th here too14:57
harrisonkhow does tonight look for me?14:57
harrisonk;)14:57
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, (:14:57
Mohan_chmland got any solutions?14:58
Mohan_chmltry to follow the link I gave14:58
Mohan_chmlthere may be some luck14:58
harrisonkI was reading through the link you gave and it doesn't show how to install the new driver14:58
Mohan_chmlargh!14:59
Mohan_chmlno how to configure ?14:59
* Mohan_chml goez there14:59
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch15:00
Mohan_chmlOMG big LINK :|15:00
Hau5Mau5wow, what an ugly url :P15:00
Mohan_chml:P15:00
harrisonkI went there and am working on it15:01
Mohan_chmlokies15:01
harrisonkI did what it said so be back in a sec15:03
harrisonkI ran glxinfo and got this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544459/15:06
harrisonkIt looks to work15:08
Mohan_chmlYAY FTW!15:09
harrisonkFGrun runs15:09
harrisonk(it didn't before15:09
harrisonk)15:09
Mohan_chmlCool B-)15:10
Mohan_chmlharrisonk, send me 10 $ for my help :D15:10
harrisonkVia paypal?15:11
harrisonk:P15:11
Mohan_chmllol was kidding15:11
Mohan_chml:P15:11
harrisonkif you get $10 then Jester needs $2015:12
pedro3005I'll take it15:12
Mohan_chmlO_O15:12
* Mohan_chml stares at pedro3005 15:12
harrisonk(Jester is on irc.flightgear.org #flightgear)15:12
Mohan_chml:o15:12
pedro3005Mohan_chml, tell me something to code in haskell15:13
Mohan_chmlpedro3005, get an input from my terminal and display it in yours =]15:14
pedro3005Mohan_chml, we call that IRC15:14
Mohan_chmlbut I am not typing at terminal now15:14
Mohan_chml:P15:14
pedro3005Mohan_chml, i haven't learned sockets :|15:15
Mohan_chmlits not my fault then :P15:15
* Mohan_chml points pedro3005 and starts laughing15:17
pedro3005Mohan_chml, you don't even know python shut up15:17
pedro3005:p15:17
Mohan_chmllol xP. actually I forgot :P15:17
kristian-aalborghi all17:33
nirazioI am new to ubuntu.Can anyone help me??17:48
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, sure =]17:48
tenach!ask17:49
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:49
nirazioIAmNotThatGuy: Is there any guide which helps me in migration from windows to ubuntu.17:51
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, I prefer you to look at Ubuntu manual. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:52
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, and you really have to do one thing for the next one month. if you have dual boot, then forget logging into M$ and you will find Ubuntu a good one ;)17:53
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: or here; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows :)17:53
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: and what IAmNotThatGuy said, too. :) use M$ when it is really necessary.17:54
niraziosure :)17:57
niraziowhat is repositories in ubuntu???17:58
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, trusted locations to download packages17:58
IAmNotThatGuys/packages/ updates and softwares17:59
niraziocan you give some guides for installation and uninstallations??18:00
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, installing a software?18:00
IAmNotThatGuyyou can find Applications-> Ubuntu Software center18:01
IAmNotThatGuyand for updates, system-> Administration-> update manager18:01
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: look over these too, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/add-applications/C/index.html18:03
nirazioJoeMaverickSett: Thankyou18:09
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: you're welcome. happy exploring + using! :)18:10
nirazioJoeMaverickSett: Do i want to install any antivirus??18:11
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: i don't think so. :)18:11
holsteinnirazio: i usually suggest trying to run firefox and openoffice on windows18:12
holsteinmaybe some other cross platform apps18:12
nirazioJoeMaverickSett: I heared some viruses exist in linux..Is it so??18:12
holsteinthat are in buntu18:12
holsteinSO when you get there, you find some common ground18:13
holsteinyou'll probably find you dont *need* to install anything for a while18:13
holsteinnirazio: i dont think its so much that viruses dont exist18:15
holsteinits an issue of the way the systems are set up18:15
holsteinin windows the user usually has administrator rights18:15
holsteinand thats not the case with buntu18:15
holsteinmakes it more challenging to attack18:16
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: might be those transmitted through malicious websites or stuff like that.18:16
holsteinIF your worriedd about it, i say go for it18:16
holsteindo what makes you feel comfortable18:16
holsteinam i running antivirus? no18:16
nirazioI use thumb drives in my system so do i need antivirus for that??Coz i use it copy some files from windows pc and so on..18:18
IAmNotThatGuynirazio, 1) do download packages from trusted links. 2) do not login as root 3) know about the reason why we have the command "sudo"18:18
JoeMaverickSett!sudo18:19
ubot2sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo18:19
JoeMaverickSettnirazio: sudo ^18:19
IAmNotThatGuythat will do it for you and if you follow those, you never have to worry about viruses :)18:19
bioterror!flood | JoeMaverickSett18:19
ubot2JoeMaverickSett: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:19
bioterrorJoeMaverickSett, remember to use | ;)18:19
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: :'(18:19
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: bully :P18:19
IAmNotThatGuyLOLz18:19
Silver_Fox_Goodbye18:39
bioterrorbye18:39
* meindian523 wonders if anybody could possibly need the help of a stagnated meindian52319:20
meindian523:P19:20
bioterrorcould you fix my amd64 natty :)19:21
bioterrorsun-java6 would be nice also19:21
bioterror:)19:21
meindian523bioterror, unfortunately no, I no longer have access to a 64 bit box :(19:24
reaper_How do I setup a Brothers wireless printer and scanner in 10.10?19:39
bioterror!printers19:40
ubot2Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows19:40
bioterrorI wasnt sure if that was in there19:41
reaper_thanks19:41
niraziowhat this command will do "sudo usermod -p '!' root"19:53
reaper_How do I install i386 architecture19:56
kristian-aalborghi all19:58
kristian-aalborgsoooo.... I installed 10.4 on an sd card but grub2 gives me "no such device" and "cannot get C/H/S values" - what to do from here?19:59
UndiFineDo/20:00
kristian-aalborgraise my arm?20:02
kristian-aalborg:P20:02
FredFlinstoneanyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be20:11
reaper_how do I install 32 bit deb packages on 64 bit system20:15
FredFlinstoneanyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be20:43
FredFlinstoneIn this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?20:49
udienzFredFlinstone: yup, you can ask at here20:49
holsteinFredFlinstone: should just be fstab20:50
holsteini usually test mount several times before adding things to fstab20:51
udienzFredFlinstone: win box is Windows OS? sorry in my mind winbox is a router name20:51
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holsteinim not totally clear on 'the page' in question20:52
holsteinif its an ubuntu wiki, you can update it20:52
holsteinlunch...20:53
kristian-aalborghi ppl21:03
ZeRoDeAtH50435_hey21:03
kristian-aalborgholstein, bioterror, phillw---- good evening21:03
kristian-aalborghi ZeRoDeAtH50435_21:04
kristian-aalborgI have a Grub2 problem, like I mentioned - I get the "no such device" stuff21:04
kristian-aalborgthis is a bit tricky, perhaps - the ubuntu that I'd like grub to see is on a CF card via PCMCIA21:05
ZeRoDeAtH50435_anyone know how to install 32 bit software on 64 bit system?21:06
kristian-aalborgthis card, I believe, can not be set to hd1 in bios boot order21:06
kristian-aalborgZeRoDeAtH50435_: which software?21:06
ZeRoDeAtH50435_drivers for a brother MFC-255Cw printer/scanner21:07
ZeRoDeAtH50435_when I got to install the lpr I get this:http://pastebin.com/fCaaANeA21:14
holsteinZeRoDeAtH50435_: i found a chroot environment guide21:15
* holstein looking21:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435_ok21:15
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit21:16
bioterrorI think it wont work21:16
holsteini didnt do it though21:16
bioterrorinstalling some 32bit drivers to 64bit system21:16
ZeRoDeAtH50435_I have got it to work on other version of ubuntu before21:17
holsteinanother 64bit install?21:17
holsteinkristian-aalborg: the way i deal with CF card installs on my EEE21:18
ZeRoDeAtH50435_yeah21:18
holsteini have grub on the cards21:18
holsteinper install21:18
holsteinthe internal HD has lucid21:18
holsteinand grub all to itself21:18
holsteineach install i do on a card, i put grub there seperately21:19
holsteinand leave grub alone on my internal HD21:19
holsteinthe grub that gets installed to the card lists the lucid install on the HD21:19
holsteinbut i never boot it that way21:19
holsteinand i just select what i want device i want to but with a button21:20
holsteinits the escape key on the EEE21:20
holsteinlittle bios popup about what device to boot21:20
nit-witholstein, mmm per-session boot, so many people don't know of the magic key prompt, and wave their hands in the air when the computer wont boot per the bios boot list.21:22
kristian-aalborgholstein: not possible on this system :(21:23
holsteinyou could go into the bios i suppose21:23
holsteinits going to be challenging21:23
holsteingrub is going to *need* that card present21:23
holsteinor it will get upset21:23
holsteinAFAIK21:23
kristian-aalborgholstein: this machine is from 1997 - fairly simple grub21:24
kristian-aalborghowever, when I boot to the other ubuntu that I have, the card is not found by df21:25
holsteini think you should give some thought to how your going to work around that21:26
holsteinIF grub is on the internal drive21:26
holsteini think your 'married' to whatever card you have in there21:26
holsteinwhen you run update-grub or whatever21:26
holsteinmaybe some 3rd patry bootloader is the answer21:26
holsteinive used GAG, but not for anything like that21:26
kristian-aalborghmm21:27
bodhizazen'lo all21:28
kristian-aalborgholstein: something like supergrubdisk (you know what I mean) seems to be a solution21:35
* holstein has not a clue about super grub disk ;)21:35
kristian-aalborgI just found a "rescue mode" on ubuntu 10.10 net21:41
kristian-aalborgnow I'm prompted to choose which file system to use as root21:59
holsteinin a grub config?21:59
holsteinOH, rescue mode21:59
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holsteini havent used much of the rescue mode features21:59
holsteinwhat is the context?21:59
kristian-aalborgthe context is that I'm fsck'd21:59
holsteinlol21:59
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ZeRoDeAtH50435how do you completely remove a file22:11
iceflatlinerm -f <file>22:23
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FredFlinstoneIn this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?23:32
FredFlinstonegot banned cause  i cant wait days for a answer in ubuntu23:33
sebikulFredFlinstone, what do you need?23:33
FredFlinstoneso help me or ban me now23:33
FredFlinstonefedora disc looks shiny :)23:33
FredFlinstoneanyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be23:33
FredFlinstonethat wqas yesterday23:33
FredFlinstoneearlier23:33
FredFlinstoneIn this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?23:34
ikoniaFredFlinstone: stop moaning23:34
sebikulFredFlinstone, please write exactly what you need, do not expect us to guess23:34
FredFlinstonesame deal , since yesterday no one  can make 10.10 work right fo rme , i think its fracked23:34
ikoniaor you'll be removed from here23:34
FredFlinstonesharing from xp to ubuntu23:34
aveilleuxFredFlinstone: Yelling at us for help won't help you get results. Not everyone here is actually actively watching the channel. Additionally, the details you're giving us are pretty sparse.23:34
FredFlinstoneimpossibel since 10.10 at this location23:35
ikoniaFredFlinstone: I've told you, stop rambling, and give people information23:35
ikoniaFredFlinstone: you've been removed from one channel for this, pull it together23:35
FredFlinstoneok i give you what i gave ubuntu guys23:35
FredFlinstonemount.cifs //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA -o credentials=/.smbcredentials23:35
FredFlinstoneand23:35
ikoniano23:35
ikoniathey didn't ask for that23:35
ikoniaFredFlinstone: stop23:35
FredFlinstonein fstab = //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA cifs credentials=/home/fred/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 023:35
ikoniaright - I can't be bothered with you any more, no-one asked for that23:36
FredFlinstoneikonia, what arfe you smoking?23:36
ikoniaFredFlinstone: nothing,23:36
FredFlinstonei am trying hard and youare just pushiong my buttionsd fort laughs23:36
sebikulFredFlinstone, if you are expecting our help, you will not get anywhere talking like that23:36
ikoniaFredFlinstone: no, you are not listening to what people are asking you and just ramming random information at people and then threatening to use another distro23:37
FredFlinstoneever hear of the spirit of xmas, or karma?23:37
ikoniaFredFlinstone: enough23:37
FredFlinstonegod what make me so bad23:37
ikoniaFredFlinstone: another smart comment and I'll remove you from here too23:37
pleia2FredFlinstone: you're being horribly rude, we're all volunteers here, if you're not happy with community support you may cosider one of the paid options from canonical23:37
pleia2otherwise, please explain exactly what you're trying to do (share windows? a disk on the same machine? over samba? is clicking to find it on the network not working?)23:38
sogeppguys, each time i boot xubuntu, the previus app always comes and poping one after another, how to stop this ???23:39
FredFlinstonei have no network23:39
FredFlinstoneits not there, it cant find it23:39
FredFlinstoneas im times out23:39
FredFlinstoneas iN times out23:39
pleia2FredFlinstone: so first you need to get the network share from windows working?23:39
collinpYour rudeness is beyond what is tolerable in this channel.23:40
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sogeppguys, after i updtein my repos, what happen with downloded repos file ???23:52
sogeppupdate23:52
UndiFineDsogepp, when you update your repositories file, it replaces the one currently installed23:58
sogeppso, it won't stay on my hdd???23:59

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