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BLZbubbagreetings, i am using mythbuntu lucid, and mythweb errors out with this: require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/fatal.php on line 2303:18
BLZbubbai fixed it once but an apt-get apparently broke it again for me, did I do something wrong setting it up?03:18
dmfreyBLZbubba: what url are you trying to hit under /mythweb?03:19
dmfreycould alwasy do an apt-get remove --purge mythweb and then apt-get install mythweb03:20
BLZbubbai'm trying to hit /mythweb03:20
BLZbubbafirst page, this happens right after i put in my password03:21
BLZbubbai think it was something about a default theme last time maybe03:21
dmfreylooks like there is a dup in that path /tmpl/tmpl03:21
BLZbubbaah looks like an error in the error page03:24
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BLZbubba_shared/tmpl/'.tmpl.'/header.php03:24
BLZbubbais tmpl a constant or something?03:25
BLZbubbathe error page never read the template from skin.php for some reason, so i just hard coded it in fatal.php to default, and now i'm getting the real error03:31
BLZbubba"setenv db_server"  @!#%%#^ - what about /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ?\03:35
BLZbubbaand how about not replacing that with new mythweb debs too :)03:35
BLZbubbaok on a more serious note - will mythbuntu be switching to a different distro like debian any time soon?  the reason i ask is that upstart is a total piece of crap and all distros using upstart and/or plymouth need to die a grisly death03:37
BLZbubbaso if there isn't an official switch a fork is in order03:38
BLZbubbaif you want to see just how bad it is, put an nfs mount in your fstab and see what happens if it can't mount it during bootup03:41
rhpot1991BLZbubba: you hit s to skip03:44
rhpot1991otherwise it waits for it03:44
rhpot1991and no, we are staying ubuntu, hence mythbuntu03:44
rhpot1991I believe you should be able to avoid waiting for the drive by setting the proper flags03:44
BLZbubbawell the point is that upstart is a disaster and not ready for prime time03:46
BLZbubbabut what flags are you talking about?  i would love to give it a try03:47
BLZbubbai ended up with the purple mythtv splash screen with 5 dots and no text of any kind, and it stayed there forever03:48
BLZbubbapeople in #upstart are a-holes too, it is just bad news03:49
MoMoI have a Dell Inspiron Desktop 570 that I am using at my frontend -- it had HDMI out and when I do a lspci | grep VGA ... i get a ATI Radeon HD 4200 ... my current problem is that I can't get my audio across the HDMI cable.  any ideas where to start?04:01
MoMothe sound card is built in04:01
BLZbubbaiirc, i ended up disabling the sound that was built into my motherboard (an old dell low profile desktop)04:11
BLZbubbaand then the defaults worked04:11
BLZbubbascrewing around with aplay and alsa devices is no fun04:11
BLZbubbaalso, has anyone evangelized about how much better nvidia is than ati on linux (at the moment anyway) ?04:12
BLZbubbavdpau is the best thing ever04:12
BLZbubbathough i am praying that ATI's open source drivers get "good enough" some day04:13
MoMoBLZbubba -- I do like nvidia much better but my funds are low -- and currently the onboard seems pretty good  i was just wondering what the trick was04:16
BLZbubbawatch for the nvidia 210 or 220 on ebay, they are dirt cheap sometimes.  in my case i just disabled the onboard so that the audio would go over the HDMI04:19
BLZbubbathe HDMI appears as a sound device04:19
BLZbubbaone with very few options04:19
BLZbubbaiirc04:19
BLZbubbatry this: aplay -L04:20
BLZbubbai have an entry like this: hdmi:CARD=NVidia04:20
BLZbubbabut i highly suggest just disabling the onboard so there is no chance of getting the wrong device04:21
BLZbubbaunless you're a masochist and love fiddling with asound.rc files and such :)04:21
rhpot1991MoMo: a few things04:48
rhpot19911. make sure its not muted in alsamixer04:48
rhpot19912. make sure its enabled in the bios04:49
rhpot19913. make sure that it can actually do sound over hdmi and that alsa supports it04:49
MoMookay -- i'm working on all these right now -- booting it back up -- i moved it to another room04:51
MoMoin the mean time ... does anyone have an HVR-1600 or can answer this? which jack do i hook my cable up to? the one that says TV or ASTC04:51
MoMoaplay -l gives me this04:57
BLZbubbaah you have a built in HDMI connector, not an add on04:58
MoMocard 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]04:58
BLZbubbaok in that case don't disable it :P04:58
MoMosubdevices: 1/104:58
MoMosubdevice #0: subdeivce #004:59
MoMoyeah it's onboard -- sorry04:59
BLZbubbadid you try cycling through the devices in mythtv setup?04:59
MoMowhat do you mean?04:59
BLZbubbaiirc there is something like ALSA:hdmi maybe04:59
MoMoyeah tried that04:59
BLZbubbain mythtv you can choose your sound device04:59
MoMothe sound comes out of the speaker jacks04:59
MoMoif i plug speakers in04:59
MoMois it worth a shot to disable to onboard speakers?05:01
BLZbubbacan't hurt05:02
BLZbubbawhich video driver are you using?05:03
MoMohow do i tell05:03
BLZbubbayou may need the ATI Catalyst propritery drivers05:03
BLZbubbanot sure, i just did a google search for hd 4200 mythtv hdmi05:03
MoMoif i launch hardware drivers05:04
BLZbubbafwiw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9820366&postcount=805:04
Zinn[ubuntuforums.org] Ubuntu Forums - View Single Post - [ubuntu] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) + GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT + ATI Radeon HD 420005:04
MoMoit says ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver05:04
MoMoati's installer huh?05:05
BLZbubbathat's what this one person suggested; but maybe there is another way to install them these days05:05
BLZbubbaubuntu 9.10 is so 200905:05
_Techie_you can install restricted drivers via jockey-gtk05:07
BLZbubbahttp://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2655005:08
MoMoi typed jockey-gtk and the interface i used to install/activate this ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver showed05:09
BLZbubbathat phoronix thread is titled: AMD Catalyst 10.10 For Linux Officially Released05:10
BLZbubbaand i think it may even have some .debs to use, or a way to create them05:10
MoMookay -- let me give the bios diable onboard audio a shot for shits and giggles and then move onto this05:11
rhpot1991MoMo: sounds like your device is muted05:17
rhpot1991check it in alsamixer05:17
rhpot1991make sure all the s/pdif entries are unmuted (should read "00")05:18
MoMoi just diabled onboard audio05:18
MoMoand loaded up alsamixer05:18
MoMoit shows the s/pdif -- and 0005:19
MoMoi can't increase it05:19
MoMowhat is the mute command? how do i tell if it's unmuted05:19
rhpot1991but aren't you trying to use the onboard audio???05:20
rhpot1991m05:20
rhpot1991will say MM if its muted05:20
rhpot199100 if its not05:20
MoMoi'm trying to use HDMI audio05:22
MoMothrough my onboard HDMI connector05:22
MoMothe onboard audio (with the headphone jack plug, works fine)05:22
MoModoes it matter? -- in alsamixer it says chip: ATI RS690/780 HDMI05:32
MoMoso ... digging and i did a less /proc/asound/HDMI/oss_mixer ...05:40
MoMoVOLUME "" 005:40
MoMois that right?05:40
MoModamn this sucks05:45
ZinnMoMo: Please watch your language.05:45
_Techie_is there a really easy way to wipe all myth data from mysql and recreate it?06:00
mrand_Techie_: yes... section 23.6 of the documentation06:05
_Techie_mrand, can you please point me to the correct documentation06:08
mrand_Techie_: google says it is here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/06:12
Zinn[www.mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR06:12
_Techie_okay, ive now got the mythtv-setup GUI working, however i cannot select the scan button in the channel editor06:27
_Techie_it is a BT878 based card06:34
mrand_Techie_: sorry, channel scanning is something that very few people on this channel know about.  You'd get a much better response on #mythtv-users06:35
_Techie_thankyou mrand06:36
_Techie_does anyone in here know how to get a analogue TV tuner to work09:12
_Techie_DVB-A  i do believe09:12
_Techie_hell, im soo lost atm09:15
Zinn_Techie_: Please watch your language.09:15
baggar11Homefront_Office: you here?19:26
baggar11Homefront_Office: I was going to ask you how you were doing your virtualized front ends19:26
Homefront_Officebaggar11, im on the road and can post a howto next week that was the easy part21:00
baggar11Homefront_Office: probably don't need a howto, just wondering if you could expand on what you were doing with the virtualization part of your frontends. Were you RDP'ing into those vm's to display and control video?21:03
Homefront_Officebaggar11, basically yes 1VM a signed to its own card w/RF controler21:24
Homefront_OfficeI have a i7 coming for a replacement, I do like having my box in the rack nice and cleean21:26
Homefront_Officebaggar11, I think once this is setup with the correct hardware  its a helll of a media center system.21:31
Homefront_Officeback to meetings21:31
baggar11Homefront_Office: cool, looking forward to hearing more details, no rush :)21:41
rhpot1991I'm not sure any VM can utilize vdpau21:44
rhpot1991and breaking up your tuners to frontends seems like an issue as well21:45
rhpot1991backends should have all your tuners :)21:45
baggar11rhpot1991: yesterday he mentioned that he had ordered 3 x hdhomerun's22:01
baggar11vdpau isn't a requirement either22:01
_Techie_how can i tell if my TV capture card is a hardware card?22:18
rhpot1991_Techie_: which card22:18
_Techie_its not a mainstream card22:19
rhpot1991baggar11: no its not, I just see a lot of issues with the setup as I understand it22:19
_Techie_its an analogue card using a BT878 chipset22:19
rhpot1991coupled with the fact he is having performance issues and is going against many of the things we don't recommend doing22:20
tgm4883_Techie_, you would look to see if that chipset has a hardware encoder22:55
tgm4883which IIRC, is no22:55
Homefront_Officerhpot1991, baggar11 one last ime be for I head out, im running the HDHomerun's OTA MythTV Backend and frontend for the Living room TV has HD and  2 pvr 350's TV out w/RF  "NOT HD" (running within wincrap w/XBMC)  and I dont recall say they were HD.. if I did sorry... I will put together a howto with the hardware that will be needed, I ahve got it running its just way under powered... I will even do a utube on it after I now the i7 does is th23:26
Homefront_Officee fix....23:26
Homefront_Officegone to dinner23:26
Homefront_Office(running within wincrap w/XBMC) Vmware23:27
rhpot1991Homefront_Office: thats what I thought, just struggling to get why that setup is better than say a moderate dual/quad core backend and 2 ion boxes23:32
baggar11Homefront_Office: I was just wondering about how you were incorporating virtualization into you setup. I think it's cool.23:35
rhpot1991Homefront_Office: and why not XBMC on linux, cut down on the bloat23:37
Homefront_Officerhpot1991, I can't say it is other then I dont have any boes or vcr/DVD ppayers in my rooms other the the TV only.... and if the wife doest watch it she will not have couches eather....23:38
Homefront_OfficeGive her a bike23:39
Homefront_Officegone23:39

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