[03:18] <BLZbubba> greetings, i am using mythbuntu lucid, and mythweb errors out with this: require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/fatal.php on line 23
[03:18] <BLZbubba> i fixed it once but an apt-get apparently broke it again for me, did I do something wrong setting it up?
[03:19] <dmfrey> BLZbubba: what url are you trying to hit under /mythweb?
[03:20] <dmfrey> could alwasy do an apt-get remove --purge mythweb and then apt-get install mythweb
[03:20] <BLZbubba> i'm trying to hit /mythweb
[03:21] <BLZbubba> first page, this happens right after i put in my password
[03:21] <BLZbubba> i think it was something about a default theme last time maybe
[03:21] <dmfrey> looks like there is a dup in that path /tmpl/tmpl
[03:24] <BLZbubba> ah looks like an error in the error page
[03:24] <BLZbubba> _shared/tmpl/'.tmpl.'/header.php
[03:25] <BLZbubba> is tmpl a constant or something?
[03:31] <BLZbubba> the error page never read the template from skin.php for some reason, so i just hard coded it in fatal.php to default, and now i'm getting the real error
[03:35] <BLZbubba> "setenv db_server"  @!#%%#^ - what about /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ?\
[03:35] <BLZbubba> and how about not replacing that with new mythweb debs too :)
[03:37] <BLZbubba> ok on a more serious note - will mythbuntu be switching to a different distro like debian any time soon?  the reason i ask is that upstart is a total piece of crap and all distros using upstart and/or plymouth need to die a grisly death
[03:38] <BLZbubba> so if there isn't an official switch a fork is in order
[03:41] <BLZbubba> if you want to see just how bad it is, put an nfs mount in your fstab and see what happens if it can't mount it during bootup
[03:44] <rhpot1991> BLZbubba: you hit s to skip
[03:44] <rhpot1991> otherwise it waits for it
[03:44] <rhpot1991> and no, we are staying ubuntu, hence mythbuntu
[03:44] <rhpot1991> I believe you should be able to avoid waiting for the drive by setting the proper flags
[03:46] <BLZbubba> well the point is that upstart is a disaster and not ready for prime time
[03:47] <BLZbubba> but what flags are you talking about?  i would love to give it a try
[03:48] <BLZbubba> i ended up with the purple mythtv splash screen with 5 dots and no text of any kind, and it stayed there forever
[03:49] <BLZbubba> people in #upstart are a-holes too, it is just bad news
[04:01] <MoMo> I have a Dell Inspiron Desktop 570 that I am using at my frontend -- it had HDMI out and when I do a lspci | grep VGA ... i get a ATI Radeon HD 4200 ... my current problem is that I can't get my audio across the HDMI cable.  any ideas where to start?
[04:01] <MoMo> the sound card is built in
[04:11] <BLZbubba> iirc, i ended up disabling the sound that was built into my motherboard (an old dell low profile desktop)
[04:11] <BLZbubba> and then the defaults worked
[04:11] <BLZbubba> screwing around with aplay and alsa devices is no fun
[04:12] <BLZbubba> also, has anyone evangelized about how much better nvidia is than ati on linux (at the moment anyway) ?
[04:12] <BLZbubba> vdpau is the best thing ever
[04:13] <BLZbubba> though i am praying that ATI's open source drivers get "good enough" some day
[04:16] <MoMo> BLZbubba -- I do like nvidia much better but my funds are low -- and currently the onboard seems pretty good  i was just wondering what the trick was
[04:19] <BLZbubba> watch for the nvidia 210 or 220 on ebay, they are dirt cheap sometimes.  in my case i just disabled the onboard so that the audio would go over the HDMI
[04:19] <BLZbubba> the HDMI appears as a sound device
[04:19] <BLZbubba> one with very few options
[04:19] <BLZbubba> iirc
[04:20] <BLZbubba> try this: aplay -L
[04:20] <BLZbubba> i have an entry like this: hdmi:CARD=NVidia
[04:21] <BLZbubba> but i highly suggest just disabling the onboard so there is no chance of getting the wrong device
[04:21] <BLZbubba> unless you're a masochist and love fiddling with asound.rc files and such :)
[04:48] <rhpot1991> MoMo: a few things
[04:48] <rhpot1991> 1. make sure its not muted in alsamixer
[04:49] <rhpot1991> 2. make sure its enabled in the bios
[04:49] <rhpot1991> 3. make sure that it can actually do sound over hdmi and that alsa supports it
[04:51] <MoMo> okay -- i'm working on all these right now -- booting it back up -- i moved it to another room
[04:51] <MoMo> in the mean time ... does anyone have an HVR-1600 or can answer this? which jack do i hook my cable up to? the one that says TV or ASTC
[04:57] <MoMo> aplay -l gives me this
[04:58] <BLZbubba> ah you have a built in HDMI connector, not an add on
[04:58] <MoMo> card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
[04:58] <BLZbubba> ok in that case don't disable it :P
[04:58] <MoMo> subdevices: 1/1
[04:59] <MoMo> subdevice #0: subdeivce #0
[04:59] <MoMo> yeah it's onboard -- sorry
[04:59] <BLZbubba> did you try cycling through the devices in mythtv setup?
[04:59] <MoMo> what do you mean?
[04:59] <BLZbubba> iirc there is something like ALSA:hdmi maybe
[04:59] <MoMo> yeah tried that
[04:59] <BLZbubba> in mythtv you can choose your sound device
[04:59] <MoMo> the sound comes out of the speaker jacks
[04:59] <MoMo> if i plug speakers in
[05:01] <MoMo> is it worth a shot to disable to onboard speakers?
[05:02] <BLZbubba> can't hurt
[05:03] <BLZbubba> which video driver are you using?
[05:03] <MoMo> how do i tell
[05:03] <BLZbubba> you may need the ATI Catalyst propritery drivers
[05:03] <BLZbubba> not sure, i just did a google search for hd 4200 mythtv hdmi
[05:04] <MoMo> if i launch hardware drivers
[05:04] <BLZbubba> fwiw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9820366&postcount=8
[05:04] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] Ubuntu Forums - View Single Post - [ubuntu] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) + GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT + ATI Radeon HD 4200
[05:04] <MoMo> it says ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[05:05] <MoMo> ati's installer huh?
[05:05] <BLZbubba> that's what this one person suggested; but maybe there is another way to install them these days
[05:05] <BLZbubba> ubuntu 9.10 is so 2009
[05:07] <_Techie_> you can install restricted drivers via jockey-gtk
[05:08] <BLZbubba> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26550
[05:09] <MoMo> i typed jockey-gtk and the interface i used to install/activate this ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver showed
[05:10] <BLZbubba> that phoronix thread is titled: AMD Catalyst 10.10 For Linux Officially Released
[05:10] <BLZbubba> and i think it may even have some .debs to use, or a way to create them
[05:11] <MoMo> okay -- let me give the bios diable onboard audio a shot for shits and giggles and then move onto this
[05:17] <rhpot1991> MoMo: sounds like your device is muted
[05:17] <rhpot1991> check it in alsamixer
[05:18] <rhpot1991> make sure all the s/pdif entries are unmuted (should read "00")
[05:18] <MoMo> i just diabled onboard audio
[05:18] <MoMo> and loaded up alsamixer
[05:19] <MoMo> it shows the s/pdif -- and 00
[05:19] <MoMo> i can't increase it
[05:19] <MoMo> what is the mute command? how do i tell if it's unmuted
[05:20] <rhpot1991> but aren't you trying to use the onboard audio???
[05:20] <rhpot1991> m
[05:20] <rhpot1991> will say MM if its muted
[05:20] <rhpot1991> 00 if its not
[05:22] <MoMo> i'm trying to use HDMI audio
[05:22] <MoMo> through my onboard HDMI connector
[05:22] <MoMo> the onboard audio (with the headphone jack plug, works fine)
[05:32] <MoMo> does it matter? -- in alsamixer it says chip: ATI RS690/780 HDMI
[05:40] <MoMo> so ... digging and i did a less /proc/asound/HDMI/oss_mixer ...
[05:40] <MoMo> VOLUME "" 0
[05:40] <MoMo> is that right?
[05:45] <MoMo> damn this sucks
[05:45] <Zinn> MoMo: Please watch your language.
[06:00] <_Techie_> is there a really easy way to wipe all myth data from mysql and recreate it?
[06:05] <mrand> _Techie_: yes... section 23.6 of the documentation
[06:08] <_Techie_> mrand, can you please point me to the correct documentation
[06:12] <mrand> _Techie_: google says it is here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/
[06:12] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[06:27] <_Techie_> okay, ive now got the mythtv-setup GUI working, however i cannot select the scan button in the channel editor
[06:34] <_Techie_> it is a BT878 based card
[06:35] <mrand> _Techie_: sorry, channel scanning is something that very few people on this channel know about.  You'd get a much better response on #mythtv-users
[06:36] <_Techie_> thankyou mrand
[09:12] <_Techie_> does anyone in here know how to get a analogue TV tuner to work
[09:12] <_Techie_> DVB-A  i do believe
[09:15] <_Techie_> hell, im soo lost atm
[09:15] <Zinn> _Techie_: Please watch your language.
[19:26] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: you here?
[19:26] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: I was going to ask you how you were doing your virtualized front ends
[21:00] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, im on the road and can post a howto next week that was the easy part
[21:03] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: probably don't need a howto, just wondering if you could expand on what you were doing with the virtualization part of your frontends. Were you RDP'ing into those vm's to display and control video?
[21:24] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, basically yes 1VM a signed to its own card w/RF controler
[21:26] <Homefront_Office> I have a i7 coming for a replacement, I do like having my box in the rack nice and cleean
[21:31] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, I think once this is setup with the correct hardware  its a helll of a media center system.
[21:31] <Homefront_Office> back to meetings
[21:41] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: cool, looking forward to hearing more details, no rush :)
[21:44] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure any VM can utilize vdpau
[21:45] <rhpot1991> and breaking up your tuners to frontends seems like an issue as well
[21:45] <rhpot1991> backends should have all your tuners :)
[22:01] <baggar11> rhpot1991: yesterday he mentioned that he had ordered 3 x hdhomerun's
[22:01] <baggar11> vdpau isn't a requirement either
[22:18] <_Techie_> how can i tell if my TV capture card is a hardware card?
[22:18] <rhpot1991> _Techie_: which card
[22:19] <_Techie_> its not a mainstream card
[22:19] <rhpot1991> baggar11: no its not, I just see a lot of issues with the setup as I understand it
[22:19] <_Techie_> its an analogue card using a BT878 chipset
[22:20] <rhpot1991> coupled with the fact he is having performance issues and is going against many of the things we don't recommend doing
[22:55] <tgm4883> _Techie_, you would look to see if that chipset has a hardware encoder
[22:55] <tgm4883> which IIRC, is no
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> rhpot1991, baggar11 one last ime be for I head out, im running the HDHomerun's OTA MythTV Backend and frontend for the Living room TV has HD and  2 pvr 350's TV out w/RF  "NOT HD" (running within wincrap w/XBMC)  and I dont recall say they were HD.. if I did sorry... I will put together a howto with the hardware that will be needed, I ahve got it running its just way under powered... I will even do a utube on it after I now the i7 does is th
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> e fix....
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> gone to dinner
[23:27] <Homefront_Office> (running within wincrap w/XBMC) Vmware
[23:32] <rhpot1991> Homefront_Office: thats what I thought, just struggling to get why that setup is better than say a moderate dual/quad core backend and 2 ion boxes
[23:35] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: I was just wondering about how you were incorporating virtualization into you setup. I think it's cool.
[23:37] <rhpot1991> Homefront_Office: and why not XBMC on linux, cut down on the bloat
[23:38] <Homefront_Office> rhpot1991, I can't say it is other then I dont have any boes or vcr/DVD ppayers in my rooms other the the TV only.... and if the wife doest watch it she will not have couches eather....
[23:39] <Homefront_Office> Give her a bike
[23:39] <Homefront_Office> gone