| Flannel | tonyyarusso: Is it just those three entities? | 01:17 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:49 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:49 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:49 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 01:49 |
| IdleOne | lol they just exploited themself | 01:49 |
| IdleOne | haha | 01:49 |
| jrib | that was weird | 01:50 |
| IdleOne | btw Tron sucked | 01:50 |
| Pici | I don't care. I'm still going to see it., | 01:50 |
| IdleOne | Pici: turns out my tickets did not garantee me a seat | 01:50 |
| Pici | IdleOne: ugh. | 01:50 |
| knome | LOL | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | tell me about it | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | I'm going to see it this weekend anyway. | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | I don't care if I have to pay | 01:51 |
| Pici | Oh. You mean you didn't even see it? | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | nope | 01:51 |
| IdleOne | they gave out more tickets then seats it seems | 01:52 |
| Pici | Oh. that really sucks then | 01:52 |
| knome | the give out seats at movie theaters now? must go get one... | 01:52 |
| IdleOne | but I thinking of writing a nasty blog post about the DJ at the radio station who gave the tickets | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | I'm | 01:53 |
| knome | night -> | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | nighters | 01:53 |
| Pici | Cyas | 01:53 |
| IdleOne | not me | 01:54 |
| Pici | IdleOne: I can't say goodnight to knome? | 01:54 |
| IdleOne | you used the plural | 01:55 |
| IdleOne | I assumed...sorry :( | 01:55 |
| Pici | (Actually I did think you were leaving) :P | 01:55 |
| IdleOne | I know you did :P | 01:56 |
| sprung | Completely ridiculous. | 02:03 |
| sprung | I did absolutely nothing wrong. | 02:03 |
| sprung | I ended the subject,. | 02:03 |
| sprung | he continued after I told him to quit. | 02:03 |
| IdleOne | sprung: your attitude towards tsimpson is what got you here | 02:03 |
| sprung | what did i do wrong exactly | 02:03 |
| sprung | my attitude? I wanted him to stop and asked him to do so. | 02:04 |
| sprung | he did not, and I did. | 02:04 |
| sprung | why am i here | 02:04 |
| sprung | and not him | 02:04 |
| tsimpson | I am | 02:04 |
| sprung | oh i see, you're in charge? | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | he is an op and asked you not to tell people to go google. simple as that. | 02:04 |
| tsimpson | sprung: to be clear, I was simply informing you of the rule in #ubutnu where we do not tell people to go and google something rather than _just_ helping | 02:04 |
| tsimpson | you answered the question, fine | 02:04 |
| IdleOne | wether you told them after providing the answer is besides the point | 02:05 |
| sprung | And i clearly /did not/ tell him to just google it | 02:05 |
| tsimpson | but you then spent time berating the user for not googleing | 02:05 |
| sprung | i provided him with a link to the answer to his question | 02:05 |
| sprung | then I explained that I found the answer on google | 02:05 |
| tsimpson | <sprung> ibm, in the time you spent asking a question which i found the answer for using google, you could have alternatively gone to www.google.com and typed cpu temperature linux and found a plethora of sites. You asking in here was not only time consuming but did not provide a variety of options to choose from. | 02:05 |
| IdleOne | not everybody has the "google foo" | 02:05 |
| sprung | thus explaining that while I used google to answer his question, he might find alternatives to my solution using the same process. | 02:05 |
| tsimpson | <sprung> ibm, you will find that if you go to www.google.com and search for what you are looking for, you may find the answer without asking in this channel | 02:05 |
| sprung | You're going to keep me banned from the ubuntu channel until I do the following: | 02:06 |
| sprung | please tell me what that is | 02:06 |
| IdleOne | sprung: I am going to unban you but I just wanted you to understand the reasoning tsimpson had. | 02:06 |
| sprung | and it is not ok for me to disagree. i understand crystal clear. | 02:07 |
| IdleOne | and I also want you to follow the channel guidelines, like we expect all users to do. | 02:07 |
| tsimpson | if you want to answer someone, fine. but please leave it at that rather than then telling them how they should not have bothered asking and just googled it | 02:07 |
| sprung | i believed I did, and I don't get to disagree, I understand. | 02:07 |
| IdleOne | you can disagree | 02:07 |
| Flannel | sprung: For future reference, even though you did give him an answer, and then direct him to google for more information, your attitude is what caught the eye of people. | 02:07 |
| IdleOne | your welcome to disagree in fact | 02:07 |
| sprung | ok you are right on all counts and i am totally and completely wrong. | 02:07 |
| sprung | i fail you win | 02:07 |
| sprung | i have read the guidelines of this channel before and just did it again | 02:08 |
| IdleOne | sprung: fine you can stay banned, since you don't want to discuss this like a adult. | 02:08 |
| sprung | what do you want from me | 02:08 |
| sprung | i don't have anything else to give you | 02:08 |
| IdleOne | in plain English | 02:08 |
| IdleOne | stop being a jerk | 02:08 |
| sprung | i'm sorry, i won't do it again | 02:08 |
| IdleOne | help people and then move on to the next | 02:09 |
| sprung | i thought i had? | 02:09 |
| sprung | i desparately want to move on | 02:09 |
| IdleOne | no you typed out 3 paragraphs of how they should of googled it | 02:09 |
| tsimpson | the two messages I posted were _after_ the answer, and were berating the user for even asking the question | 02:09 |
| sprung | again what do you want from me, i have admitted i am wrong and you are right, and i have apologized and promised i won't do it again. | 02:09 |
| sprung | what else can i do | 02:10 |
| tsimpson | sprung: all we wanted was for you to understand the rules we have, no special jumping through hoops needed | 02:11 |
| tsimpson | you can join #ubuntu now if you wish | 02:11 |
| IdleOne | sprung: thanks for you time and understanding | 02:11 |
| IdleOne | your* | 02:11 |
| Gggodlike | yes hello | 02:16 |
| Gggodlike | i was auto-b& from #ubuntu for no reason | 02:17 |
| Gggodlike | and now i cant answer qs | 02:17 |
| Flannel | Gggodlike: Have a nice day. | 02:17 |
| IdleOne | actually you got banned because you posted a DCC exploit | 02:17 |
| Flannel | Ooh wait | 02:18 |
| Gggodlike | i asked | 02:18 |
| Gggodlike | what it was | 02:18 |
| * Flannel uses lastlog poorly. | 02:18 | |
| IdleOne | Gggodlike: ok but the bot sees it as an exploit attempt | 02:18 |
| IdleOne | you should have been forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic | 02:18 |
| IdleOne | with instructions on how to resolve the problem | 02:18 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: He wasn't vulnerable | 02:18 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: He just repeated it. | 02:18 |
| Flannel | Gggodlike: It's stupid people being dumb. | 02:19 |
| IdleOne | I see | 02:19 |
| Gggodlike | Gggodlike> what is ??.. | 02:19 |
| IdleOne | well he got banned for repeating it | 02:19 |
| Flannel | Gggodlike: For future reference, don't copy/paste that into the channel, because then you 'help' them. | 02:19 |
| Gggodlike | ok | 02:19 |
| Flannel | Gggodlike: It's people trying to exploit some weaknesses in some home routers. I've removed your ban in #ubuntu, please rejoin! | 02:19 |
| Gggodlike | thanks | 02:19 |
| tonyyarusso | Flannel: Well, I'm converting everything that's not alphanumeric, but those are the particularly problematic ones, due to appearing in the encoded entity. | 02:58 |
| * tonyyarusso reads wiki pages for Paul Tag and Alan Bell | 03:56 | |
| rww | I already know everyone on the nomination list ;P | 03:57 |
| tonyyarusso | I feel like I should, but don't. | 03:58 |
| rww | What do we use for polling? Condorcet, or some Launchpad thing? | 03:58 |
| tonyyarusso | fluxbox maintainer eh? Interesting. | 03:58 |
| tonyyarusso | rww: We e-mail our thoughts to the secret black box that is the IRCC, and they tell us what result we wanted. :P | 03:59 |
| tonyyarusso | aka I honestly don't even know | 03:59 |
| rww | "A poll will be set up next week for voting", so I suspect we're not doing the (rather flawed) email-votes-to-some-group thing | 04:00 |
| tonyyarusso | oh hey | 04:00 |
| tonyyarusso | I wonder if anyone told pleia2 that Launchpad is deep-sixing the polls feature. | 04:00 |
| * tonyyarusso got a notice at work today | 04:01 | |
| rww | Another reason to hope we're using Condorcet ;D | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | what's the app that lets you set how bright ubuntu is? | 04:03 |
| tonyyarusso | how...bright? | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | yeah - screen brightness | 04:04 |
| * tonyyarusso cries at the prospect of explaining the different kinds of election methods to people who barely understand simple IRV | 04:15 | |
| rww | Hrm. I wonder whether the Wikileaks hype will have died down by the time I get back from IRC vacation on the 28th ;P | 04:21 |
| rww | Anyone have any thoughts on making !dvd actually be about DVDs specifically instead of aliasing to !codecs? | 04:23 |
| IdleOne | hmm | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | !burn | 04:24 |
| ubottu | CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | !burning | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | err | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | none at the moment, what did you have in mind? | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | that would fit DVD better I think | 04:25 |
| rww | . !no, dvd is <reply> Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:27 |
| IdleOne | looks good to me | 04:28 |
| rww | !-codecs | 04:28 |
| ubottu | codecs aliases: mp3, divx, xvid, dvd, libdvdcss, libdvdcss2, avi, mpeg, mpg, mkv, quicktime, wma, wmv, aac, restrictedformats, restricted formats, freeformats, restricted, realplayer, multimedia, flashplayer, w32 codecs, ogg, flac, video, real, mp4, m4a, free formats, ubuntu-restricted-extras, asf, codec, 3gp, kubuntu-restricted-extras - added by LjL on 2006-07-09 02:52:18 - last edited by tsimpson on 2010-05-16 14:32:21 | 04:28 |
| rww | looks like we'd then want to alias libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 to !dvd | 04:28 |
| rww | !no, dvd is <reply> Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:29 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:29 |
| rww | !dvd | 04:29 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:29 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:30 |
| ubottu | You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm | 04:30 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:30 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss2 is <alias> dvd | 04:30 |
| IdleOne | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:30 |
| ubottu | You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm | 04:30 |
| IdleOne | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:30 |
| tsimpson | erm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats#DVD :) | 04:30 |
| rww | looks like they went through, despite ubottu's lack of notification. | 04:30 |
| IdleOne | ok | 04:31 |
| rww | tsimpson: I would do that, except help.ubuntu.com's anchor format tends to change every so often. | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | ahh, that's better | 04:31 |
| IdleOne | !libdvdcss | 04:31 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:31 |
| rww | ... or not >.> | 04:31 |
| rww | !-libdvdcss | 04:31 |
| ubottu | libdvdcss is <alias> codecs - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 22:19:41 - last edited by IdleOne on 2010-12-16 04:30:47 | 04:31 |
| rww | is lies :( | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | tonyyarusso: the answer is to shut down the machine, and reboot it with the power cable in, so it automatically goes to top brightness. all other brightness mechanisms fail under maverick | 04:31 |
| tsimpson | "You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm" <- | 04:31 |
| rww | tsimpson: which I did | 04:31 |
| IdleOne | so did I | 04:32 |
| tsimpson | well sometimes Encyclopedia is fail | 04:32 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:32 |
| ubottu | You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm | 04:32 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:32 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:32 |
| tsimpson | !libdvdcss | 04:32 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:32 |
| rww | !no, libdvdcss is <reply> foo | 04:33 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:33 |
| rww | !no libdvdcss is <alias> dvd | 04:33 |
| tsimpson | !libdvdcss | 04:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:33 |
| rww | !libdvdcss2 | 04:33 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:33 |
| rww | !no, libdvdcss2 is <reply> foo | 04:33 |
| rww | !no, libdvdcss2 is <alias> dvd | 04:33 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:33 |
| IdleOne | you fixered it | 04:33 |
| rww | !libdvdcss2 | 04:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:33 |
| rww | yay. | 04:33 |
| IdleOne | nice job | 04:33 |
| tsimpson | let's see if sed-style works | 04:34 |
| tsimpson | !dvd ~= s/ \. / | / | 04:34 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that tsimpson | 04:34 |
| tsimpson | !dvd | 04:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 04:34 |
| tsimpson | :) | 04:34 |
| * rww grabs his log of PMs with ubottu, looks for all the unapplied minor factoid changes he's requested over the past month ;P | 04:36 | |
| rww | !sudo =~ s/Gnome, XFCE/GNOME, Xfce/ | 04:36 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:36 |
| rww | !natty =~ s/pre-// | 04:37 |
| rww | !natty | 04:38 |
| ubottu | Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is alpha and is not intended for production systems. | 04:38 |
| rww | hrm, I guess it just doesn't say a confirmation sometimes. | 04:38 |
| tsimpson | I'd rather s/alpha/unstable/ | 04:38 |
| rww | !natty =~ s/alpha/unstable/ | 04:38 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:38 |
| tsimpson | rww: ubottu has flood protection, even for it's non public replies | 04:38 |
| tsimpson | it's technically a bug, but meh | 04:39 |
| tsimpson | and has gnome still not dropped that acronym yet...? | 04:40 |
| rww | nope | 04:40 |
| rww | some people want to, though | 04:40 |
| rww | Thoughts on aliasing !limewire to !frostwire and dropping !limewire from !gnutella? Limewire is pretty much dead now, and you can't download it from the URL in the !limewire factoid. | 04:41 |
| maco | fine with me | 04:41 |
| tsimpson | if the factoid has dead info, change it | 04:41 |
| tsimpson | (or remove it) | 04:42 |
| rww | !gnutella =~ s/, !Limewire// | 04:46 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:46 |
| rww | !forget limewire | 04:47 |
| ubottu | I'll forget that, rww | 04:47 |
| rww | !frostwire =~ s/version of Limewire/!gnutella client, forked from the Limewire source code/ | 04:47 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 04:47 |
| pleia2 | rww: Condorcet | 05:31 |
| rww | pleia2: thanks :) | 05:31 |
| tonyyarusso | pleia2: excellent | 05:45 |
| pleia2 | that reminded me actually, have to start the process of pulling the email addresses for it | 05:46 |
| pleia2 | so thanks :) | 05:46 |
| dfhsd | . | 05:46 |
| rww | dfhsd: hi | 05:47 |
| dfhsd | hello;-) | 05:53 |
| rww | dfhsd: Can I help you? | 05:54 |
| IdleOne | dfhsd: Unless there is something we can help you with please refer to the channel topic and specifically the part about not idling. | 05:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Does "Kate Stewart" == "Natty release manager", or something else? | 05:59 |
| maco | think so | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's right | 06:00 |
| rww | tonyyarusso: yes | 06:00 |
| tonyyarusso | Nifty. Anyone know her IRC nick for when our next -r-p comes around? | 06:00 |
| rww | skaet | 06:00 |
| tonyyarusso | interesting. Anagrams, eh? | 06:08 |
| rww | heh, that's fun. If you do /mode #channelname -eeeo foo bar baz yournick, you don't see it remove the exempts. | 06:20 |
| tonyyarusso | /mode -eeyore? | 06:24 |
| maco | :D | 06:24 |
| rww | haha. I started humming Old McDonald Had a Farm, myself. | 06:24 |
| maco | i thoght it sounded like sound a donkey makes | 06:25 |
| mneptok | i've lost my tail. nobody cares. | 06:29 |
| cdbs | What to do with FredFlinstone in #ubuntu? | 06:30 |
| cdbs | ignore, I guess | 06:30 |
| rww | I'm not sure why you'd need to do anything. | 06:31 |
| cdbs | hmm | 06:31 |
| rww | They were asking a question, they got fed up and allcapsed and got +q by the bot, then left a few minutes ago. | 06:32 |
| tonyyarusso | mneptok: Nobody ever cares about you. | 06:32 |
| tonyyarusso | Except when people start distributing disturbing topless pictures of you online. | 06:33 |
| mneptok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO_zjotemfI | 06:34 |
| tonyyarusso | ha | 06:35 |
| === myrtti is now known as Myrtti | ||
| elky | * Bacta (~Ricky@203.184.32.124) has joined #ubuntu-nz | 09:33 |
| elky | <Bacta> Hai trolls | 09:33 |
| elky | jussi, ^ | 09:33 |
| ikonia | yeah, we need more proof of his behaviour, it's not like he's not got 150+ notes in BT | 09:48 |
| Jordan_U | What is the situation with Bacta exactly? | 09:56 |
| ikonia | he's a masssive pain in ubuntu name space (and freenode in general) multiple bans/klines etc. | 09:57 |
| ikonia | he's banned from all ubuntu core channels | 09:57 |
| Jordan_U | So why do we need more evidence? | 09:58 |
| ikonia | amazing question | 09:58 |
| ikonia | who knows | 09:58 |
| Jordan_U | Who is asking for more evidence? | 09:58 |
| ikonia | jussi: did the other day | 09:58 |
| maco | the australifinn | 09:59 |
| * Homicidal-Tree would like to know why his name is the #ubuntu ban list. | 11:44 | |
| Homicidal-Tree | *name is on the | 11:44 |
| Myrtti | are you aware what kind of quit message you used the last? | 11:46 |
| Myrtti | or do you type a new one every time? | 11:47 |
| Homicidal-Tree | I type a new one every time. What has that got to do with anything? | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | also, are you aware that banevading is wrong? | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | elky, jrib ^ | 11:49 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Ban evading? I'm ban evading? | 11:49 |
| Myrtti | come now, I'm not a fool | 11:50 |
| elky | fixed, thanks for letting us know you were evading a ban. you now have two. | 11:50 |
| Myrtti | elky: ♥ | 11:51 |
| Homicidal-Tree | You only banned my Homicidal-Tree name. If you banned my account or IP, I wouldn't have been able to get in. | 11:51 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Besides, why was I banned in the first place? | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | yeah, that has been fixed now, the ip is banned now too | 11:51 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Good. | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | congratulations, you've won the lotto | 11:51 |
| elky | it doesn't matter how you evade, evading is against freenode policy | 11:51 |
| elky | !staff | Homicidal-Tree | 11:52 |
| ubottu | Homicidal-Tree: hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, Pricey, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :) | 11:52 |
| Homicidal-Tree | elky: I wasn't even aware that I was banned until you guys tld me. | 11:52 |
| Homicidal-Tree | *told | 11:53 |
| elky | you're also sockpuppetting with their web irc service | 11:53 |
| Myrtti | I didn't know you were banned before you came here to ask why... logic fails. | 11:53 |
| Myrtti | funny thing is that you came here asking why you've been banned after you entered #ubuntu | 11:54 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Well, someone told me that I was banned. I tried joining to see if it was true. And I ended up here. Then I decided to ask why. | 11:54 |
| elky | that's not true. | 11:55 |
| Homicidal-Tree | elky: What sin't true? | 11:55 |
| Homicidal-Tree | *isn't | 11:55 |
| elky | you did not end up here by trying to join #ubuntu | 11:56 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Yes, I did. | 11:56 |
| Homicidal-Tree | As Homicidal-Tree, I typed /join #ubuntu and was forwarded here. I figured I was banned. | 11:56 |
| elky | no, i just removed your sockpuppet from #ubuntu. it wouldn't have been there if your assertion were true | 11:56 |
| Homicidal-Tree | elky: Please don't use technical talk on me. It confuses me. | 11:58 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Anyway, we're getting off topic. Why was I, as Homicidal-Tree, banned there in the first place? | 11:59 |
| Myrtti | you were originally forwarded here to discuss your quit message which was profane and unsuitable for the channel | 11:59 |
| elky | Probably for the same reason i just banned thewhateverfish which was threatening... rape? | 11:59 |
| Homicidal-Tree | ....... Jeez.... can't you people take a joke? | 12:00 |
| Myrtti | however, someone has since come on the channel with your ip with equally profane and unsuitable content and the original reason is rather irrelevant | 12:00 |
| elky | no, no we can't. you might want to find elsewhere for your comedy routine | 12:00 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Fine. I will. I still wanna know why my first ban took place. | 12:01 |
| Myrtti | I just told you | 12:01 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Well, what was the quit message? | 12:01 |
| Homicidal-Tree | If you don't wanna say it on here, PM me. | 12:02 |
| Myrtti | ikonia: this is yours originally, can you confirm that my assumption for the reason is correct? | 12:03 |
| ikonia | apologies, not been following, let me just pull up info | 12:03 |
| elky | 2010-12-06T12:51:44 *** Homicidal-Tree (Homicidal-Tree!caac7321@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.172.115.33) has quit IRC (Quit: If I wake up tomorrow, will you still be here? If you are, will you give me head? ...... Holy shit, I actually TYPED that?!? ..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!) | 12:05 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Oh. | 12:05 |
| Homicidal-Tree | I remember that. | 12:06 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Sorry. | 12:06 |
| ikonia | thanks elky info was slow coming forward | 12:06 |
| elky | ikonia, yeah the tracker is crawling a bit today | 12:06 |
| ikonia | found it now | 12:06 |
| ikonia | I'm not unbanning this guy based on what I've read in here, so it's over to you two if you want to remove it | 12:07 |
| Myrtti | ikonia: but it was the quit message? | 12:07 |
| ikonia | yes | 12:07 |
| Myrtti | thank you | 12:07 |
| * Homicidal-Tree wishes that there was a way for him to get unbanned. | 12:08 | |
| elky | Not today there isn't. | 12:08 |
| Homicidal-Tree | What about next week? | 12:09 |
| elky | You ruined any prospect by trolling #ubuntu | 12:09 |
| elky | no, probably not. | 12:09 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Month? | 12:09 |
| elky | you'll have to ask us then | 12:09 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Damn. That means the 16th of January 2011. | 12:09 |
| ikonia | it means there is no set date | 12:10 |
| Myrtti | think positive, Holiday season is coming up and there's lots of other things to do | 12:10 |
| ikonia | next time you may want to drop the smart mouth attitude and lies, and just be honest | 12:10 |
| Homicidal-Tree | Oh, well. I'm a patient man. I can wait a month. I can wait even longer if I have to. It was good talking to you people. | 12:11 |
| ikonia | ok, bye | 12:11 |
| * jrib hates that webchat is basically an easy way to circumvent bans... | 12:17 | |
| ikonia | it didn't used to be | 12:17 |
| jrib | and it shouldn't be :) | 12:18 |
| elky | this wasn't really the case here. he was banned as a webchat user | 12:25 |
| elky | but by nick only apparently | 12:25 |
| jrib | elky: I was referring to fmj in #ubuntu | 12:29 |
| elky | ah | 12:29 |
| Myrtti | I feel so old looking at #freenode | 13:00 |
| elky | hah | 13:10 |
| tomaw | what makes the webchat an easier way to circumvent bans now than it used to be? | 13:28 |
| jrib | tomaw: I don't know if it's easier, just that it can be used to circumvent bans | 13:36 |
| tomaw | ikonia said it didn't used to be | 13:42 |
| jrib | ah yes, I'm not really sure how either | 13:45 |
| jrib | tomaw: maybe the way users are allowed into #ubuntu? | 13:45 |
| * jrib tries | 13:45 | |
| tomaw | ah perhaps the bot that invites them used to check the ban lists first | 13:46 |
| jrib | tomaw: yeah, I got sent to #ubuntu directly where as before there was a temporary room | 13:46 |
| popey | i wonder if this is the change jussi made recently | 13:50 |
| popey | i complained to him that people using webchat get dumped somewhere and it's all a bit scary | 13:50 |
| popey | he made some changes which did some fancyness which ended up with webchat users going directly to #ubuntu | 13:50 |
| popey | might have been LjL actually. I think he set it so if you're still banned you don't get unmuted or something | 13:54 |
| popey | sorry, memoryfail | 13:54 |
| popey | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2010-October/001086.html is probably it | 13:55 |
| Pici | If anyone is still confused as to how the current system works, I'd be glad to explain it. | 13:56 |
| jrib | popey: ah yes that sounds right, I remember discussing it with ljl at some point | 13:57 |
| popey | Pici: Please explain in detail, starting with "Then the earth cooled.." | 13:57 |
| Pici | popey: -___- | 13:57 |
| jrib | Pici: if I ban a user with a cloak, he can still access #ubuntu (and not be muted) if he uses webchat without authorizing. Is this correct? | 13:58 |
| jrib | in fjm's case he rejoined with multiple IPs, but I'm just curious for the future | 13:59 |
| Pici | jrib: Yes, because the bot can't look beyond cloaks theres nothing we can do about that. | 14:01 |
| Pici | But that would be the case anyway even if we didn't have this system. | 14:02 |
| jrib | Pici: thanks. In my opinion, that's something freenode should handle | 14:02 |
| jrib | genius | 14:14 |
| tsimpson | you can ban by account to /mode +b $a:account_name | 14:44 |
| tsimpson | that way, if they are identified, they are banned | 14:45 |
| tsimpson | + project cloaks override webchat cloaks, so banning a non unaffiliated cloak does work | 14:48 |
| tsimpson | unless I'm overestimating the floodbots | 14:48 |
| tsimpson | (continuing to ramble) nope, it should work | 14:49 |
| jrib | tsimpson: hmm, the scenario I have in mind is I ban "ubuntu/member/stdin" but then he goes into webchat and doesn't auth. I believe if you don't auth with a normal client, you would still be banned. But with webchat you can circumvent the ban | 14:50 |
| Myrtti | tsimpson: errrrr. | 14:51 |
| tsimpson | jrib: no, if I don't auth I don't get a cloak, so I won't be banned with any client | 14:51 |
| jrib | tsimpson: no way | 14:51 |
| tsimpson | the server would have no way of knowing I am ubuntu/member/stdin so can't act | 14:52 |
| jrib | that's silly | 14:52 |
| tsimpson | that's just the way the auth system works | 14:52 |
| jrib | tsimpson: but if I ban an ip, having a cloak would not circumvent the ban? | 14:53 |
| tsimpson | you're not banning a cloak exactly, you're banning a host (which is faked when I auth) | 14:53 |
| tsimpson | jrib: yes, because the server can see my IP, regardless of my cloak | 14:53 |
| Myrtti_ | funky realname I've got | 14:54 |
| tsimpson | eg: if you run /userhost jrib, you get your IP | 14:54 |
| jrib | tsimpson: seems like if I ban a cloak the server should make sure the ip gets banned (even if that's not the way it works now) | 14:55 |
| tsimpson | but that would expose the IP to everyone | 14:56 |
| tomaw | what if you ban *!*@ubuntu/member/* ? | 14:56 |
| jrib | tsimpson: do it internally | 14:56 |
| tomaw | how would you remove the hidden ban | 14:56 |
| jrib | tomaw: I'd remove the ban on the cloak | 14:57 |
| tsimpson | jrib: and what if I used a shared system, or a .edu block? | 14:57 |
| tsimpson | then someone else tries to join, can't, and no one knows why or how | 14:57 |
| jrib | tsimpson: I don't follow | 14:57 |
| tomaw | so you ban *!*@foo/cloak, ircd undoes that and bans *!*@1.2.3.4 but tells you *!*@foo/cloak is still banned so you can remove that whenever? | 14:57 |
| tomaw | it'd make it nearly impossible for a user to find out what bans match them | 14:58 |
| jrib | tomaw: I guess this is tsimpson's point as well. I suppose ideally there would be a way to query which ban is matching a user | 15:01 |
| Myrtti | my brain is melting | 15:11 |
| Myrtti | I suppose it would be a good idea to take a shower now before I let something slip that I might regret later | 15:11 |
| Myrtti | argh, I feel like smacking people | 15:32 |
| jpds | Myrtti: You might slip, if you had a shower. | 15:32 |
| Myrtti | jpds: too late | 15:33 |
| Myrtti | dry already :-) | 15:33 |
| Myrtti | it's the moisturiser I have to be careful with | 15:36 |
| * popey feels the need to watch videos on youtube of people spreading butter on the floor outisde showers | 15:42 | |
| IdleOne | hahaha | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | my forehead starts to hurt from constant headdesking | 15:46 |
| Myrtti | there's a lot of fail going on the channels | 15:47 |
| * rww slips a pillow between user and keyboard | 15:47 | |
| Pici | Myrtti: You should get one of those gel wrist rests, they cushion the blow quite a bit. | 15:47 |
| jpds | rww: Head→desk; otherwise there'd be characters going everywhere. | 15:47 |
| Myrtti | Pici: perhaps using my penguin mouse mat helps atleast some while choosing one | 15:47 |
| rww | jpds: Considering how often Myrtti headdesks, I assumed she'd perfected it as a method of typing. | 15:48 |
| jpds | I say | 15:49 |
| popey | I'm staggered Myrtti can type at all with those nails! | 15:49 |
| Myrtti | popey: shorter now, I tend to bite my nails on high stress seasons | 15:50 |
| Myrtti | :-< | 15:50 |
| Pici | Myrtti: Like Winter, Summer, Fall and Spring? | 15:51 |
| Myrtti | Pici: like the past 6 months or so | 15:51 |
| Pici | Myrtti: :( Sorry. Just trying to lighten things up. | 15:52 |
| Myrtti | yeah, I'm running quite low on the humour currently | 15:52 |
| Pici | sendmail :( | 16:10 |
| Pici | Augh. #ubuntu's spelling is breaking my brain. | 16:35 |
| ikonia | unitedpotsmoker trying to ban dodge again | 17:32 |
| ikonia | genii-around: welcome back, hope you're feeling better | 17:32 |
| IdleOne | was he still banned? | 17:34 |
| ikonia | yes | 17:34 |
| IdleOne | ok | 17:35 |
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| genii-around | ikonia: Thanks! | 18:37 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (gaybittwist appears to be abusive - 4.5) | 18:47 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (gaybittwist appears to be abusive - 4.5) | 18:47 |
| Myrtti | oh lord what a quit message | 20:08 |
| IdleOne | Myrtti: you got that? | 20:10 |
| Myrtti | yeah | 20:11 |
| IdleOne | k | 20:11 |
| IdleOne | [CH|LLZ] (~foo@58.sub-75-196-87.myvzw.com) | 20:11 |
| IdleOne | in case you need it | 20:11 |
| Myrtti | it was the banforward that I needed | 20:11 |
| Myrtti | that quit message gave me the chills, ironically | 20:12 |
| IdleOne | it was, disgusting | 20:12 |
| Myrtti | o_0 | 20:15 |
| Myrtti | oh my, I think my shell provider is having a hiccup again | 20:16 |
| Myrtti | but, anyway | 20:18 |
| Myrtti | I'm glad to notice that it's not just my current lack of sense of humour | 20:19 |
| Myrtti | good to know someone else didn't like it either | 20:19 |
| Tm_T | I wonder if anyone could like it | 20:20 |
| IdleOne | Myrtti: things like that quit message make it so I could become an inmate | 20:21 |
| IdleOne | makes me consider murder | 20:22 |
| Myrtti | uhoh | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | lagggg. | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | please don't disconnect please don't disconnect please don't disconnect | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* didn't disconnect | 20:23 |
| Tm_T | Tenue- one? | 20:23 |
| IdleOne | ? | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | Tm_T: xob, ping timeouted yesterday evening, took until midmorning today to get back online | 20:23 |
| Tm_T | ye, Tenue | 20:24 |
| Myrtti | too little ilines apparently too | 20:24 |
| * Tm_T has clients on both servers for a good reason | 20:24 | |
| Myrtti | heh, it's not *that* important | 20:25 |
| Tm_T | not important, but reduces the annoyance (: | 20:25 |
| Myrtti | can you try catch him I'm on a lagfest here | 20:44 |
| IdleOne | he keeps joining and parting | 20:45 |
| Myrtti | quit now apparently | 20:45 |
| Myrtti | or changed nicks | 20:46 |
| Myrtti | IdleOne: thanks | 20:47 |
| IdleOne | np | 20:47 |
| Myrtti | I feel like smacking a server somewhere | 20:47 |
| Myrtti | proper good open hand smack | 20:48 |
| mneptok | excuse me for a moment. i'll be over near the ... uh ... thing that's over there furthest from Myrtti. | 20:48 |
| Tm_T | Myrtti: I suspect the issue lies on ISP | 20:51 |
| Myrtti | indeed | 20:51 |
| Myrtti | but smacking a server is easier than smacking the ethernet cables | 20:51 |
| IdleOne | I say you walk over to mneptok and smack him, won't help your connection any but should make you feel better | 20:52 |
| mneptok | IdleOne: i have a wife for such things. and she's good at it. | 20:53 |
| IdleOne | be a team player dude | 20:54 |
| IdleOne | take one for the team | 20:54 |
| mneptok | IdleOne: getting a snow/rain mix here. cool, thunder with snow. but i think it's a *petit peut* more snow than was expected. you'd have a good laugh at tonight' | 20:54 |
| mneptok | *tonight's meteoroligist melt-down over 2cm | 20:55 |
| IdleOne | weird, FLA and NM getting snow | 20:55 |
| IdleOne | NM is new mexico right? | 20:55 |
| mneptok | we get snow every winter. | 20:55 |
| mneptok | yup | 20:55 |
| IdleOne | kids told me they have gotten some flurries but nothing laying on the ground yet, in Philly | 20:56 |
| IdleOne | (near Philly) | 20:56 |
| mneptok | we're at almost 2km in elevation, so snow is hardly rare | 20:56 |
| IdleOne | ah, ok that makes sense | 20:56 |
| mneptok | but media still does apoplectic. | 20:57 |
| IdleOne | I didn't realize | 20:57 |
| mneptok | *goes | 20:57 |
| Myrtti | may I paste the picture URL now? | 20:57 |
| IdleOne | sure? | 20:57 |
| Myrtti | plz plz plz | 20:57 |
| Myrtti | http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/meanwhile-in-finland.jpg | 20:57 |
| Myrtti | BWHAHAHAHAHAHA | 20:57 |
| IdleOne | heh | 20:57 |
| mneptok | why wait outside if the sauna is full? | 20:58 |
| mneptok | stay inside and write C | 20:58 |
| IdleOne | he was drinking tea, trying to cool off some | 20:58 |
| mneptok | *that's* Finland. | 20:58 |
| Myrtti | zoink. almost dropped my external hard drive on the floor | 20:58 |
| * jussi has glögi :D | 21:14 | |
| jussi | just missing a bit of jaloviina to spice it up some | 21:14 |
| Amaranth | poor ubottu | 21:52 |
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| jpds | Alright. | 21:59 |
| Amaranth | ubottu: test | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Failed! | 22:00 |
| Amaranth | phew | 22:00 |
| Myrtti | wheeeee | 22:23 |
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| ikonia | pleia2: fred who claims to be "new" seems to be very aware of ##club-ubuntu | 23:38 |
| ikonia | not something a new ubuntu user would find | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | his attitude in general is way out of line | 23:39 |
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| elky | ikonia, actually it's the first in the list for most clients when searching, and they grossly misrepresent themselves to people who find them that way | 23:46 |
| rww | perhaps we should make ##anubunturoom and +iF it to #ubuntu ;) | 23:47 |
| elky | nah, that's not really allowed | 23:47 |
| rww | +if ** | 23:48 |
| rww | ah. the intricacies of channel naming policy escape me | 23:48 |
| elky | we're not supposed to hold ##'s and forward them to #'s, but technically that only applies to ##ubuntu -> #ubuntu which iirc is staff owned | 23:49 |
| elky | staff get discretion in this stuff | 23:49 |
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