[01:17] tonyyarusso: Is it just those three entities? [01:41] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:41] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:41] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:41] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:49] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:49] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:49] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:49] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [01:49] lol they just exploited themself [01:49] haha [01:50] that was weird [01:50] btw Tron sucked [01:50] I don't care. I'm still going to see it., [01:50] Pici: turns out my tickets did not garantee me a seat [01:50] IdleOne: ugh. [01:51] LOL [01:51] tell me about it [01:51] I'm going to see it this weekend anyway. [01:51] I don't care if I have to pay [01:51] Oh. You mean you didn't even see it? [01:51] nope [01:52] they gave out more tickets then seats it seems [01:52] Oh. that really sucks then [01:52] the give out seats at movie theaters now? must go get one... [01:53] but I thinking of writing a nasty blog post about the DJ at the radio station who gave the tickets [01:53] I'm [01:53] night -> [01:53] nighters [01:53] Cyas [01:54] not me [01:54] IdleOne: I can't say goodnight to knome? [01:55] you used the plural [01:55] I assumed...sorry :( [01:55] (Actually I did think you were leaving) :P [01:56] I know you did :P [02:03] Completely ridiculous. [02:03] I did absolutely nothing wrong. [02:03] I ended the subject,. [02:03] he continued after I told him to quit. [02:03] sprung: your attitude towards tsimpson is what got you here [02:03] what did i do wrong exactly [02:04] my attitude? I wanted him to stop and asked him to do so. [02:04] he did not, and I did. [02:04] why am i here [02:04] and not him [02:04] I am [02:04] oh i see, you're in charge? [02:04] he is an op and asked you not to tell people to go google. simple as that. [02:04] sprung: to be clear, I was simply informing you of the rule in #ubutnu where we do not tell people to go and google something rather than _just_ helping [02:04] you answered the question, fine [02:05] wether you told them after providing the answer is besides the point [02:05] And i clearly /did not/ tell him to just google it [02:05] but you then spent time berating the user for not googleing [02:05] i provided him with a link to the answer to his question [02:05] then I explained that I found the answer on google [02:05] ibm, in the time you spent asking a question which i found the answer for using google, you could have alternatively gone to www.google.com and typed cpu temperature linux and found a plethora of sites. You asking in here was not only time consuming but did not provide a variety of options to choose from. [02:05] not everybody has the "google foo" [02:05] thus explaining that while I used google to answer his question, he might find alternatives to my solution using the same process. [02:05] ibm, you will find that if you go to www.google.com and search for what you are looking for, you may find the answer without asking in this channel [02:06] You're going to keep me banned from the ubuntu channel until I do the following: [02:06] please tell me what that is [02:06] sprung: I am going to unban you but I just wanted you to understand the reasoning tsimpson had. [02:07] and it is not ok for me to disagree. i understand crystal clear. [02:07] and I also want you to follow the channel guidelines, like we expect all users to do. [02:07] if you want to answer someone, fine. but please leave it at that rather than then telling them how they should not have bothered asking and just googled it [02:07] i believed I did, and I don't get to disagree, I understand. [02:07] you can disagree [02:07] sprung: For future reference, even though you did give him an answer, and then direct him to google for more information, your attitude is what caught the eye of people. [02:07] your welcome to disagree in fact [02:07] ok you are right on all counts and i am totally and completely wrong. [02:07] i fail you win [02:08] i have read the guidelines of this channel before and just did it again [02:08] sprung: fine you can stay banned, since you don't want to discuss this like a adult. [02:08] what do you want from me [02:08] i don't have anything else to give you [02:08] in plain English [02:08] stop being a jerk [02:08] i'm sorry, i won't do it again [02:09] help people and then move on to the next [02:09] i thought i had? [02:09] i desparately want to move on [02:09] no you typed out 3 paragraphs of how they should of googled it [02:09] the two messages I posted were _after_ the answer, and were berating the user for even asking the question [02:09] again what do you want from me, i have admitted i am wrong and you are right, and i have apologized and promised i won't do it again. [02:10] what else can i do [02:11] sprung: all we wanted was for you to understand the rules we have, no special jumping through hoops needed [02:11] you can join #ubuntu now if you wish [02:11] sprung: thanks for you time and understanding [02:11] your* [02:16] yes hello [02:17] i was auto-b& from #ubuntu for no reason [02:17] and now i cant answer qs [02:17] Gggodlike: Have a nice day. [02:17] actually you got banned because you posted a DCC exploit [02:18] Ooh wait [02:18] i asked [02:18] what it was [02:18] * Flannel uses lastlog poorly. [02:18] Gggodlike: ok but the bot sees it as an exploit attempt [02:18] you should have been forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic [02:18] with instructions on how to resolve the problem [02:18] IdleOne: He wasn't vulnerable [02:18] IdleOne: He just repeated it. [02:19] Gggodlike: It's stupid people being dumb. [02:19] I see [02:19] Gggodlike> what is ??.. [02:19] well he got banned for repeating it [02:19] Gggodlike: For future reference, don't copy/paste that into the channel, because then you 'help' them. [02:19] ok [02:19] Gggodlike: It's people trying to exploit some weaknesses in some home routers. I've removed your ban in #ubuntu, please rejoin! [02:19] thanks [02:58] Flannel: Well, I'm converting everything that's not alphanumeric, but those are the particularly problematic ones, due to appearing in the encoded entity. [03:56] * tonyyarusso reads wiki pages for Paul Tag and Alan Bell [03:57] I already know everyone on the nomination list ;P [03:58] I feel like I should, but don't. [03:58] What do we use for polling? Condorcet, or some Launchpad thing? [03:58] fluxbox maintainer eh? Interesting. [03:59] rww: We e-mail our thoughts to the secret black box that is the IRCC, and they tell us what result we wanted. :P [03:59] aka I honestly don't even know [04:00] "A poll will be set up next week for voting", so I suspect we're not doing the (rather flawed) email-votes-to-some-group thing [04:00] oh hey [04:00] I wonder if anyone told pleia2 that Launchpad is deep-sixing the polls feature. [04:01] * tonyyarusso got a notice at work today [04:01] Another reason to hope we're using Condorcet ;D [04:03] what's the app that lets you set how bright ubuntu is? [04:04] how...bright? [04:04] yeah - screen brightness [04:15] * tonyyarusso cries at the prospect of explaining the different kinds of election methods to people who barely understand simple IRV [04:21] Hrm. I wonder whether the Wikileaks hype will have died down by the time I get back from IRC vacation on the 28th ;P [04:23] Anyone have any thoughts on making !dvd actually be about DVDs specifically instead of aliasing to !codecs? [04:24] hmm [04:24] !burn [04:24] CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [04:24] !burning [04:24] err [04:24] none at the moment, what did you have in mind? [04:25] that would fit DVD better I think [04:27] . !no, dvd is Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:28] looks good to me [04:28] !-codecs [04:28] codecs aliases: mp3, divx, xvid, dvd, libdvdcss, libdvdcss2, avi, mpeg, mpg, mkv, quicktime, wma, wmv, aac, restrictedformats, restricted formats, freeformats, restricted, realplayer, multimedia, flashplayer, w32 codecs, ogg, flac, video, real, mp4, m4a, free formats, ubuntu-restricted-extras, asf, codec, 3gp, kubuntu-restricted-extras - added by LjL on 2006-07-09 02:52:18 - last edited by tsimpson on 2010-05-16 14:32:21 [04:28] looks like we'd then want to alias libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 to !dvd [04:29] !no, dvd is Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:29] I'll remember that rww [04:29] !dvd [04:29] Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:30] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:30] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [04:30] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:30] !no libdvdcss2 is dvd [04:30] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:30] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [04:30] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:30] erm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats#DVD :) [04:30] looks like they went through, despite ubottu's lack of notification. [04:31] ok [04:31] tsimpson: I would do that, except help.ubuntu.com's anchor format tends to change every so often. [04:31] ahh, that's better [04:31] !libdvdcss [04:31] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:31] ... or not >.> [04:31] !-libdvdcss [04:31] libdvdcss is codecs - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 22:19:41 - last edited by IdleOne on 2010-12-16 04:30:47 [04:31] is lies :( [04:31] tonyyarusso: the answer is to shut down the machine, and reboot it with the power cable in, so it automatically goes to top brightness. all other brightness mechanisms fail under maverick [04:31] "You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm" <- [04:31] tsimpson: which I did [04:32] so did I [04:32] well sometimes Encyclopedia is fail [04:32] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:32] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [04:32] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:32] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:32] !libdvdcss [04:32] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:33] !no, libdvdcss is foo [04:33] I'll remember that rww [04:33] !no libdvdcss is dvd [04:33] !libdvdcss [04:33] Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:33] !libdvdcss2 [04:33] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:33] !no, libdvdcss2 is foo [04:33] !no, libdvdcss2 is dvd [04:33] I'll remember that rww [04:33] you fixered it [04:33] !libdvdcss2 [04:33] Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs . For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:33] yay. [04:33] nice job [04:34] let's see if sed-style works [04:34] !dvd ~= s/ \. / | / [04:34] I'll remember that tsimpson [04:34] !dvd [04:34] Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:34] :) [04:36] * rww grabs his log of PMs with ubottu, looks for all the unapplied minor factoid changes he's requested over the past month ;P [04:36] !sudo =~ s/Gnome, XFCE/GNOME, Xfce/ [04:36] I'll remember that rww [04:37] !natty =~ s/pre-// [04:38] !natty [04:38] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is alpha and is not intended for production systems. [04:38] hrm, I guess it just doesn't say a confirmation sometimes. [04:38] I'd rather s/alpha/unstable/ [04:38] !natty =~ s/alpha/unstable/ [04:38] I'll remember that rww [04:38] rww: ubottu has flood protection, even for it's non public replies [04:39] it's technically a bug, but meh [04:40] and has gnome still not dropped that acronym yet...? [04:40] nope [04:40] some people want to, though [04:41] Thoughts on aliasing !limewire to !frostwire and dropping !limewire from !gnutella? Limewire is pretty much dead now, and you can't download it from the URL in the !limewire factoid. [04:41] fine with me [04:41] if the factoid has dead info, change it [04:42] (or remove it) [04:46] !gnutella =~ s/, !Limewire// [04:46] I'll remember that rww [04:47] !forget limewire [04:47] I'll forget that, rww [04:47] !frostwire =~ s/version of Limewire/!gnutella client, forked from the Limewire source code/ [04:47] I'll remember that rww [05:31] rww: Condorcet [05:31] pleia2: thanks :) [05:45] pleia2: excellent [05:46] that reminded me actually, have to start the process of pulling the email addresses for it [05:46] so thanks :) [05:46] . [05:47] dfhsd: hi [05:53] hello;-) [05:54] dfhsd: Can I help you? [05:59] dfhsd: Unless there is something we can help you with please refer to the channel topic and specifically the part about not idling. [05:59] Does "Kate Stewart" == "Natty release manager", or something else? [05:59] think so [06:00] yeah, that's right [06:00] tonyyarusso: yes [06:00] Nifty. Anyone know her IRC nick for when our next -r-p comes around? [06:00] skaet [06:08] interesting. Anagrams, eh? [06:20] heh, that's fun. If you do /mode #channelname -eeeo foo bar baz yournick, you don't see it remove the exempts. [06:24] /mode -eeyore? [06:24] :D [06:24] haha. I started humming Old McDonald Had a Farm, myself. [06:25] i thoght it sounded like sound a donkey makes [06:29] i've lost my tail. nobody cares. [06:30] What to do with FredFlinstone in #ubuntu? [06:30] ignore, I guess [06:31] I'm not sure why you'd need to do anything. [06:31] hmm [06:32] They were asking a question, they got fed up and allcapsed and got +q by the bot, then left a few minutes ago. [06:32] mneptok: Nobody ever cares about you. [06:33] Except when people start distributing disturbing topless pictures of you online. [06:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO_zjotemfI [06:35] ha === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [09:33] * Bacta (~Ricky@203.184.32.124) has joined #ubuntu-nz [09:33] Hai trolls [09:33] jussi, ^ [09:48] yeah, we need more proof of his behaviour, it's not like he's not got 150+ notes in BT [09:56] What is the situation with Bacta exactly? [09:57] he's a masssive pain in ubuntu name space (and freenode in general) multiple bans/klines etc. [09:57] he's banned from all ubuntu core channels [09:58] So why do we need more evidence? [09:58] amazing question [09:58] who knows [09:58] Who is asking for more evidence? [09:58] jussi: did the other day [09:59] the australifinn [11:44] * Homicidal-Tree would like to know why his name is the #ubuntu ban list. [11:44] *name is on the [11:46] are you aware what kind of quit message you used the last? [11:47] or do you type a new one every time? [11:48] I type a new one every time. What has that got to do with anything? [11:48] also, are you aware that banevading is wrong? [11:49] elky, jrib ^ [11:49] Ban evading? I'm ban evading? [11:50] come now, I'm not a fool [11:50] fixed, thanks for letting us know you were evading a ban. you now have two. [11:51] elky: ♥ [11:51] You only banned my Homicidal-Tree name. If you banned my account or IP, I wouldn't have been able to get in. [11:51] Besides, why was I banned in the first place? [11:51] yeah, that has been fixed now, the ip is banned now too [11:51] Good. [11:51] congratulations, you've won the lotto [11:51] it doesn't matter how you evade, evading is against freenode policy [11:52] !staff | Homicidal-Tree [11:52] Homicidal-Tree: hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, Pricey, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :) [11:52] elky: I wasn't even aware that I was banned until you guys tld me. [11:53] *told [11:53] you're also sockpuppetting with their web irc service [11:53] I didn't know you were banned before you came here to ask why... logic fails. [11:54] funny thing is that you came here asking why you've been banned after you entered #ubuntu [11:54] Well, someone told me that I was banned. I tried joining to see if it was true. And I ended up here. Then I decided to ask why. [11:55] that's not true. [11:55] elky: What sin't true? [11:55] *isn't [11:56] you did not end up here by trying to join #ubuntu [11:56] Yes, I did. [11:56] As Homicidal-Tree, I typed /join #ubuntu and was forwarded here. I figured I was banned. [11:56] no, i just removed your sockpuppet from #ubuntu. it wouldn't have been there if your assertion were true [11:58] elky: Please don't use technical talk on me. It confuses me. [11:59] Anyway, we're getting off topic. Why was I, as Homicidal-Tree, banned there in the first place? [11:59] you were originally forwarded here to discuss your quit message which was profane and unsuitable for the channel [11:59] Probably for the same reason i just banned thewhateverfish which was threatening... rape? [12:00] ....... Jeez.... can't you people take a joke? [12:00] however, someone has since come on the channel with your ip with equally profane and unsuitable content and the original reason is rather irrelevant [12:00] no, no we can't. you might want to find elsewhere for your comedy routine [12:01] Fine. I will. I still wanna know why my first ban took place. [12:01] I just told you [12:01] Well, what was the quit message? [12:02] If you don't wanna say it on here, PM me. [12:03] ikonia: this is yours originally, can you confirm that my assumption for the reason is correct? [12:03] apologies, not been following, let me just pull up info [12:05] 2010-12-06T12:51:44 *** Homicidal-Tree (Homicidal-Tree!caac7321@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.172.115.33) has quit IRC (Quit: If I wake up tomorrow, will you still be here? If you are, will you give me head? ...... Holy shit, I actually TYPED that?!? ..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!) [12:05] Oh. [12:06] I remember that. [12:06] Sorry. [12:06] thanks elky info was slow coming forward [12:06] ikonia, yeah the tracker is crawling a bit today [12:06] found it now [12:07] I'm not unbanning this guy based on what I've read in here, so it's over to you two if you want to remove it [12:07] ikonia: but it was the quit message? [12:07] yes [12:07] thank you [12:08] * Homicidal-Tree wishes that there was a way for him to get unbanned. [12:08] Not today there isn't. [12:09] What about next week? [12:09] You ruined any prospect by trolling #ubuntu [12:09] no, probably not. [12:09] Month? [12:09] you'll have to ask us then [12:09] Damn. That means the 16th of January 2011. [12:10] it means there is no set date [12:10] think positive, Holiday season is coming up and there's lots of other things to do [12:10] next time you may want to drop the smart mouth attitude and lies, and just be honest [12:11] Oh, well. I'm a patient man. I can wait a month. I can wait even longer if I have to. It was good talking to you people. [12:11] ok, bye [12:17] * jrib hates that webchat is basically an easy way to circumvent bans... [12:17] it didn't used to be [12:18] and it shouldn't be :) [12:25] this wasn't really the case here. he was banned as a webchat user [12:25] but by nick only apparently [12:29] elky: I was referring to fmj in #ubuntu [12:29] ah [13:00] I feel so old looking at #freenode [13:10] hah [13:28] what makes the webchat an easier way to circumvent bans now than it used to be? [13:36] tomaw: I don't know if it's easier, just that it can be used to circumvent bans [13:42] ikonia said it didn't used to be [13:45] ah yes, I'm not really sure how either [13:45] tomaw: maybe the way users are allowed into #ubuntu? [13:45] * jrib tries [13:46] ah perhaps the bot that invites them used to check the ban lists first [13:46] tomaw: yeah, I got sent to #ubuntu directly where as before there was a temporary room [13:50] i wonder if this is the change jussi made recently [13:50] i complained to him that people using webchat get dumped somewhere and it's all a bit scary [13:50] he made some changes which did some fancyness which ended up with webchat users going directly to #ubuntu [13:54] might have been LjL actually. I think he set it so if you're still banned you don't get unmuted or something [13:54] sorry, memoryfail [13:55] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2010-October/001086.html is probably it [13:56] If anyone is still confused as to how the current system works, I'd be glad to explain it. [13:57] popey: ah yes that sounds right, I remember discussing it with ljl at some point [13:57] Pici: Please explain in detail, starting with "Then the earth cooled.." [13:57] popey: -___- [13:58] Pici: if I ban a user with a cloak, he can still access #ubuntu (and not be muted) if he uses webchat without authorizing. Is this correct? [13:59] in fjm's case he rejoined with multiple IPs, but I'm just curious for the future [14:01] jrib: Yes, because the bot can't look beyond cloaks theres nothing we can do about that. [14:02] But that would be the case anyway even if we didn't have this system. [14:02] Pici: thanks. In my opinion, that's something freenode should handle [14:14] genius [14:44] you can ban by account to /mode +b $a:account_name [14:45] that way, if they are identified, they are banned [14:48] + project cloaks override webchat cloaks, so banning a non unaffiliated cloak does work [14:48] unless I'm overestimating the floodbots [14:49] (continuing to ramble) nope, it should work [14:50] tsimpson: hmm, the scenario I have in mind is I ban "ubuntu/member/stdin" but then he goes into webchat and doesn't auth. I believe if you don't auth with a normal client, you would still be banned. But with webchat you can circumvent the ban [14:51] tsimpson: errrrr. [14:51] jrib: no, if I don't auth I don't get a cloak, so I won't be banned with any client [14:51] tsimpson: no way [14:52] the server would have no way of knowing I am ubuntu/member/stdin so can't act [14:52] that's silly [14:52] that's just the way the auth system works [14:53] tsimpson: but if I ban an ip, having a cloak would not circumvent the ban? [14:53] you're not banning a cloak exactly, you're banning a host (which is faked when I auth) [14:53] jrib: yes, because the server can see my IP, regardless of my cloak [14:54] funky realname I've got [14:54] eg: if you run /userhost jrib, you get your IP [14:55] tsimpson: seems like if I ban a cloak the server should make sure the ip gets banned (even if that's not the way it works now) [14:56] but that would expose the IP to everyone [14:56] what if you ban *!*@ubuntu/member/* ? [14:56] tsimpson: do it internally [14:56] how would you remove the hidden ban [14:57]