[00:01] <canthus13> wow. that was a lot of lag..
[00:25] <Cheri703> hooray for a crunchy hdd!
[01:37] <canthus13> crunchy?
[01:38] <Cheri703> it was making crunching noises, then scraping/screeching noises, then it died completely
[01:39] <canthus13> Nice.  It'll make a decent set of wind chimes...
[01:39] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm going to liveboot to see if everything else is healthy
[01:39] <canthus13> You *might* be able to recover a bit from it.  Stuff it in 2 or 3 freezer bags, then freeze it overnight.
[01:40] <Cheri703> (on that note, is there a quick utility to check the viability of other hardware?)
[01:40] <Cheri703> I'll try it
[01:41] <canthus13> Hmm. The only thing I can think of is a motherboard diagnostic card.
[01:41] <Cheri703> ok
[01:42] <canthus13> memtest86 does a decent job of testing RAM.
[01:46] <Cheri703> ok
[02:30] <Cheri703> back to microcenter tomorrow, woo! :/
[02:30] <Cheri703> got that person's laptop settled, now to see about this dang printer
[02:34] <canthus13> Use a hammer.
[02:34] <Cheri703> :/ will just return it if it comes to that
[02:34] <Cheri703> I don't want to compromise my moral stance on hp, but...if they have one that does what I want...it's tempting :/
[02:47] <Cheri703> so the turboprint driver is...manageable, but 30day free trial then purchase :/
[02:48] <Cheri703> rawr at hp :( :( :(
[02:48] <Cheri703> they have a printer that does basically what I want for $60 :(
[03:39] <dmcglone> Hello peeps :-)
[03:39]  * canthus13 is *NOT* a squishy, animal-shaped marshmallow covered in colored sugar.
[03:40] <dmcglone> is that what a peep is?
[03:40] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:40] <Cheri703> google "peep science"
[03:41] <dmcglone> I'm on top of it
[03:41] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:42] <dmcglone> Ah your referring to the name of them little yellow marshmallow ducks for easter
[03:42] <dmcglone> I forgot all about them
[03:42] <dmcglone> haha
[03:43] <dmcglone> Heard you got a new printer Cheri703
[03:43] <Cheri703> yes indeed
[03:44] <dmcglone> what did ya decide to go with?
[03:44] <canthus13> she's having buyer's remorse.
[03:44] <dmcglone> I got me an HP 6500n and it's awesome
[03:44] <canthus13> heh.
[03:44] <Cheri703> I got a canon pixma mg5220
[03:44] <Cheri703> and canthus13 I got it working alright :)
[03:45] <Cheri703> printed out a bunch of stuff that my hps (multiple of them) would never have handled as smoothly :D
[03:45] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:46] <Cheri703> dmcglone: mine can duplex!
[03:46] <dmcglone> I'm not sure if mine can, but I can print from anywhere I have internet access
[03:47] <dmcglone> and it's got instant built in apps
[03:48] <dmcglone> check this out: http://h30495.www3.hp.com/?from=h20563.www2.hp.com&jumpid=in_R11549%2FDT
[03:48] <Cheri703> sweet
[03:48] <Cheri703> mine is wireless as well, and it has iphone printing support, I'm curious if there's android support too
[03:49] <dmcglone> yeah mine has smart phone ability too, but unfortunately I don't have internet on my phone :-/
[03:49] <Cheri703> :/
[03:50] <dmcglone> I got tired of at&t charging me for crap so I told them to take it and shove it where the sun don't shine
[03:52] <dmcglone> Cheri703:  ever heard of coupon mom?
[03:53] <Cheri703> nope
[03:55] <dmcglone> it's a website where you can get tons of great deals and coupons, but them sites require windows because you have to download software to make sure you don't print more coupons than allowed, well I always had to go get on my moms windows computer, but now it's all built into my printer
[03:55] <Unit193> Doesn't work in wine?
[03:56] <dmcglone> wine never works for me man
[03:56] <dmcglone> I have come to hate wine
[03:56] <Unit193> I have it on every Linux install....
[03:56] <dmcglone> your better off running window in a VM
[03:56] <Unit193> Nope...
[03:57] <dmcglone> let me rephrase that: I'm better off that is
[03:57] <Unit193> Have some left over works files (from a Win98) works 99 works better in linux then windows!!
[03:57] <canthus13> Depends on what it is.
[03:57] <dmcglone> wine just never ever works for me :-/
[03:57] <canthus13> not everything works better in a VM.
[03:58] <dmcglone> I hear people talk about how wine works for them, but it just seems to hate me!
[03:58] <canthus13> dmcglone: If you weren't so mean to it...
[03:59] <Unit193> dmcglone: I may end up doing it like you do (gnome with KDE apps)
[03:59] <dmcglone> Awww I feel the love ;-)
[04:00] <dmcglone> thats cool
[04:01] <dmcglone> it might work great for you Unit193
[04:01]  * dmcglone has been using linux for many moons
[04:01] <Unit193> I really hate decisions (that's all linux seems to be)
[04:01] <Unit193> How would that work great?
[04:03] <Cheri703> wine works for a few programs for me, but I'm a fan of vmware player
[04:03] <dmcglone> I like the fact that if I pay thousands of dollars for an app, I can at least have a shot at fixing it myself, before I spend another thousand paying the people that couldn't code it right in the first place ;-)
[04:04] <dmcglone> I used to use VMware
[04:05] <dmcglone> the only reason I have windows is for Command & Conquer. so there is no sense in running a VM
[04:05] <Unit193> My sister needs Office 2k7 for school....
[04:06] <dmcglone> I wonder what it can do that Ooo can't
[04:06] <Cheri703> office can run in wine
[04:06] <Cheri703> dmcglone: save as a docx most likely
[04:06] <Unit193> 2007
[04:06] <Unit193> ?
[04:06] <Cheri703> probably
[04:06] <Cheri703> give me a sec and I can find out
[04:07] <Unit193> (Still have to test it)
[04:07]  * Cheri703 may have a copy floating around as an iso..
[04:09] <dmcglone> I would look deep into Ooo and see if it can do everything she needs
[04:09] <Unit193> It can't
[04:10] <Cheri703> dmcglone: too many people are using the .docx now, it's stupid
[04:11] <canthus13> docx sucks.
[04:11] <canthus13> docx pisses me off every day at work.
[04:11] <Cheri703> yes, I hate it
[04:11] <dmcglone> Cheri703: on a side note, I am meeting Matthew tomorrow morning
[04:12] <Cheri703> yeah, he mentioned that :)
[04:12] <Cheri703> I'm glad it (at least so far) is working out :)
[04:12] <canthus13> We don't have office on our machines. We have Office 2003 document viewers.  Idiot secretaries in the company send out memos as docx.
[04:12] <dmcglone> he'll be happy.
[04:12] <Cheri703> ha, fun canthus13
[04:12] <canthus13> Yeah.
[04:12] <dmcglone> I'll take good care of him, thats for sure
[04:13] <Cheri703> awesome dmcglone, he and his wife are great people
[04:13] <dmcglone> yes, he is very polite
[04:14] <Cheri703> he can be very....enthusiastic :)
[04:15] <dmcglone> I'll make sure he gets the royal treatment
[04:15] <Cheri703> awesome :) it's appreciated
[04:15] <dmcglone> well him being enthusiastic is better than my sarcasm... :-)
[04:16] <Cheri703> probably true
[04:16] <dmcglone> lol
[04:16] <dmcglone> it's gotta be true
[04:16] <dmcglone> :-)
[04:16] <Unit193> I can be real bad with that too dmcglone
[04:17] <Cheri703> I always love it when people hear a phrase used often, and they write it in a completely wrong way: from an amazon review "[designer] NEVER seize to amaze me!"
[04:17] <dmcglone> I don't know why I have to always joke around
[04:17] <dmcglone> guess i'm afraid people will not like me
[04:17] <Cheri703> I'm VERY sarcastic
[04:17]  * dmcglone has always been the class clown
[04:17] <Cheri703> eh, sometimes joking is good, sometimes people want to see past it
[04:18] <Cheri703> ooo, completely random subject change: I got husband and I matching nerf guns the other day :D
[04:18] <dmcglone> your right cheri
[04:18] <dmcglone> so you can shoot each other when your mad at one another
[04:18] <dmcglone> :-)
[04:19] <Cheri703> sometimes ;)
[04:19] <Cheri703> they're fun
[04:19] <Cheri703> they're 6 shot revolvers :D
[04:19] <Unit193> I know some people that have them at work....
[04:19] <canthus13> Nice.
[04:20] <Cheri703> it is his first nerf gun EVER
[04:20] <Cheri703> his parents never let him have one
[04:20] <Cheri703> he's been going around the house shooting things for target practice
[04:20] <dmcglone> lol
[04:20] <Unit193> dogs?
[04:20] <Cheri703> no, they'd eat the darts
[04:20] <dmcglone> haha
[04:20] <Unit193> yeah...
[04:21] <Cheri703> the beagle mixes are nervous enough as it is...they're scared of the tiniest things :/ I'm working on socializing them
[04:21] <dmcglone> bring em to me, i'll talk their ears off
[04:21] <dmcglone> lol
[04:22] <Cheri703> heh, not quite that kind, but we are trying to have more visitors so they get used to other people, at our old place, we pretty much NEVER had people over
[04:22] <dmcglone> on second thought, they might turn them against being social
[04:22] <Cheri703> house was too run down :(
[04:23] <dmcglone> I know how that goes. When my wife and I first got married, we had it rough. took us many years to climb the ladder.
[04:24] <dmcglone> It was especially hard for me because of my condition
[04:24] <dmcglone> I've had managers say it right to my face too.
[04:26] <dmcglone> I went to school to be Diesel Mechanic, and I had one manager tell me he wouldn't hire me because he was afraid I would get hit by a car or truck in the garage!
[04:27] <dmcglone> Oh those were the days
[04:27] <dmcglone> :-)
[04:27] <Unit193> Your mostly, right?
[04:27] <dmcglone> mostly what?
[04:27] <Unit193> deaf?
[04:28] <Cheri703> :(
[04:28] <dmcglone> with my hearing aid on I hear everything
[04:28] <dmcglone> talk on the phone, listen to music etc, etc
[04:28] <Unit193> can be nice to take them out...
[04:28] <dmcglone> but when I take it off, I am completely deaf
[04:28] <dmcglone> Oh yeah. everyone says I have the best of both worlds
[04:29] <dmcglone> I wasn't born deaf though
[04:29] <Unit193> I might not go that far... have you found it handy?
[04:29] <Unit193> (is this a bad topic?)
[04:29] <dmcglone> no
[04:29] <dmcglone> I'm fine with talking about it
[04:29] <dmcglone> It doesn't bother me
[04:30] <Unit193> I don't always get what is and what isn't
[04:30] <dmcglone> have I found what handy? being able to turn my ears off so to speak? LOL
[04:30] <canthus13> Depends.  'Born deaf' culture is a bit different from 'Went deaf' culture.
[04:31] <dmcglone> true canthus13
[04:31] <dmcglone> very very true
[04:31] <dmcglone> I know some deaf people that hate hearing aids
[04:31] <canthus13> When it comes to Born deaf, some of them can be downright militant about their opinions, just like hearing people.
[04:31] <dmcglone> they don't believe in them
[04:31] <Cheri703> canthus13: my grandma and her brother were born deaf
[04:31] <Cheri703> grandma = militant
[04:32] <Cheri703> also she used to favor my brother over me because he had a hearing loss >.<
[04:32] <dmcglone> I lost my hearing from medical malpractice when I was 7
[04:32] <canthus13> Cheri703: it can be a pain in the butt dealing with folks like that.
[04:33] <Unit193> Cheri703: used to?
[04:33] <dmcglone> Cheri703: I don't think she favored him, I just think they were probably closer because they both understood what each had to bear in life :-/
[04:33] <Cheri703> I've seen them once in the past 10 years or so, and he wasn't around :)
[04:33] <Cheri703> dmcglone: she did...I was like 6 and she'd tell me not to eat so much, and then give him candy o.O various things, various ways, even my parents noticed and my dad had to tell her to stop
[04:34] <dmcglone> I have deaf friends and I connect with them in such a different and deeper way than i do some of my other friends
[04:34] <canthus13> Some deaf folks are downright prejudiced agains hearing folks.
[04:34] <Cheri703> I'd imagine so
[04:34] <canthus13> But it takes all types. :P
[04:35] <dmcglone> canthus13: are you just saying that because you got turned down by a really really really hot deaf girl?
[04:35] <dmcglone> LOL
[04:35] <canthus13> dmcglone: Nah. :)
[04:35] <dmcglone> :-)
[04:35] <Cheri703> my brother dated a deaf girl for a while
[04:35] <canthus13> dmcglone: I'm saying this because my parents used to do a lot of volunteer work through the church with the deaf community in San Antonio.
[04:35] <dmcglone> cool
[04:35] <Cheri703> they broke up (for various reasons) but he mentioned that he would realize he'd gone DAYS without speaking
[04:36] <Cheri703> and he easily isolates himself, so it wasn't a particularly good thing for him
[04:36] <dmcglone> I isolate myself a lot
[04:36] <dmcglone> not because I'm deaf, but because I need a mental break
[04:37] <canthus13> Meh. So do I.  It's a geek thing.
[04:37] <dmcglone> I work non stop
[04:37] <dmcglone> I take care of 3 kids practically by myself
[04:37] <canthus13> s straight.
[04:37] <Cheri703> well, yeah, but for someone who already isolates, to have their "social time" be completely silent as well? it was wearing on him even though he didn't realize it at the time :/
[04:37] <canthus13> Pisses off my wife sometimes.  I'll get to a point where I tell her to go away because she's been sitting next to me for two or three hours straight.
[04:38] <Cheri703> husband and I spend most of our time in separate rooms
[04:38] <dmcglone> lol canthus13
[04:38] <dmcglone> Cheri703: I love silence
[04:38] <dmcglone> silence is golden
[04:38] <dmcglone> lol
[04:38] <Cheri703> me too, husband is ALWAYS ALWAYS making noise of some sort
[04:39] <Cheri703> tapping, humming, whistling, shaking his foot (movement is annoying as well, if I'm not the one causing it), etc
[04:39] <Cheri703> drives me NUTS
[04:39] <dmcglone> amplify that 3 times along with a wife barking orders and ya got my life... LOL
[04:39] <Cheri703> heh
[04:39] <Cheri703> women don't bark orders, they gently compel ;)
[04:40] <dmcglone> have you met my wife???? HAHA
[04:40] <dmcglone> 2 of my kids are like your husband Cheri703
[04:40] <dmcglone> they constantly talk like you are in california
[04:41] <dmcglone> they fight constantly
[04:41] <dmcglone> it's a never ending battle
[04:41] <dmcglone> LOL
[04:41] <Unit193> Two older sisters....
[04:41] <dmcglone> BUT......I wouldn't trade it for the world
[04:42]  * dmcglone loves his kids to death
[04:42] <dmcglone> and I am very protective of my girls
[04:42] <dmcglone> Unit193 do you torture them?
[04:43] <dmcglone> ;-)
[04:43] <Unit193> OLDER sisters ;)
[04:43] <dmcglone> what you scared of them because they are older?
[04:43] <dmcglone> ;-)
[04:44] <dmcglone> here's a great thing about being deaf, I sleep through everything
[04:44] <Unit193> I'm taller so no issue there... the one whacks me at times
[04:45] <dmcglone> whack her back
[04:45] <dmcglone> lol
[04:46] <Unit193> I mostly come out as the bad one, so I don't whack back much (I actually like that sister)
[04:46] <Unit193> Not that I don't like the other one
[04:47] <dmcglone> can I ask you something?
[04:47] <Unit193> sure!
[04:47] <dmcglone> how old are you?
[04:47] <dmcglone> lmao
[04:47] <Unit193> 137
[04:47] <dmcglone> lol
[05:09] <dmcglone> canthus13: you must be into something tonight to be this quiet
[05:11] <canthus13> Nah.
[05:11] <canthus13> Just doin' other stuff, listening to the violent femmes....
[05:12] <dmcglone> is that music?
[05:12] <canthus13> Yup. Remember "Blister in The Sun" or "Add it Up"?
[05:13] <dmcglone> no?
[05:13] <dmcglone> was it by violent femme
[05:13] <dmcglone> s
[05:13] <canthus13> Late 80's/early 90's.
[05:13] <canthus13> Yep.
[05:13] <Cheri703> let me go oooouut like i blister in the sun, let me go ooooout, big hands I know you're the one
[05:13] <Cheri703> something like that
[05:14] <dmcglone> that was too early for me
[05:14] <canthus13> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8VTlXVqUQ
[05:14] <dmcglone> that didn't sound right
[05:14] <canthus13> Let me go on, not out. :)
[05:14] <Cheri703> meh
[05:14] <Cheri703> close enough
[05:15] <Cheri703> that's what it sounds like
[05:15] <canthus13> but yeah, that's the song. :)
[05:15] <dmcglone> are they heavy metal?
[05:15] <Cheri703> then he's saying "oooowwwwn"
[05:16] <canthus13> More like early alternative/new wave.
[05:16] <Cheri703> ooo, flat mullet there
[05:16] <canthus13> with a bit of rockabilly.
[05:16] <dmcglone> I see.
[05:16] <Cheri703> acoustic guitar guy
[05:16] <canthus13> They were just a really fun band.
[05:16] <dmcglone> I was more into thrash metal than anything back in them days
[05:17] <canthus13> and this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHapDS2fcFE&NR=1 (add it up)
[05:17] <dmcglone> anyone remember when Metallica first put "one" on Mtv?
[05:17] <canthus13> Yep.
[05:17] <Cheri703> ooo, I think I've heard this one canthus13
[05:17] <dmcglone> that was the very first song I heard since regaining my hearing
[05:17]  * canthus13 saw 'em when they toured with GNR.
[05:18] <canthus13> Cheri703: I've been rediscovering them lately, along with a bunch of other bands I hadn't listened to in years.
[05:19] <Cheri703> nice
[05:19] <dmcglone> I don't have a very big selection
[05:19]  * canthus13 listens to everything.
[05:19] <dmcglone> A lot of my music is from when I was younger in the '70s
[05:20] <dmcglone> ever heard of "the sugar hill gang"
[05:20] <canthus13> Heard of 'em.
[05:20] <dmcglone> I listened to Kenny Rodgers
[05:20] <dmcglone> my all time favorite Meatloaf
[05:20] <dmcglone> Diana ross and the supremes
[05:21] <canthus13> ew.
[05:21] <dmcglone> well I was young
[05:21] <dmcglone> oh yeah don't forget tina turner
[05:21] <dmcglone> haha
[05:22] <canthus13> Heh.
[05:22] <canthus13> I liked her in Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.
[05:22] <dmcglone> I'm also a really big fan of the piano
[05:22] <dmcglone> so I love Elton John and Billy Joel
[05:23] <dmcglone> theres also Journey
[05:23] <canthus13> Ooo.. and Kiss Off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gproa6vzgws
[05:23] <canthus13> I like some Journey.
[05:24] <canthus13> Never really liked Elton John... I like Billy Joel, though.
[05:24] <dmcglone> my favorite is Open arms
[05:24] <canthus13> As for piano, Tori Amos rocks.
[05:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: I love the whole Heavy Metal sound track. :)
[05:25] <dmcglone> did you like pink floyd?
[05:25] <canthus13> Some.
[05:25] <dmcglone> I like Elton's song "I'm still standing"
[05:26] <dmcglone> but anything after '88 it's mostly just metallica, misfit, suicidal, and a few others
[05:27] <canthus13> ST.. Wow. That's another one I'll have to dig up. I haven't listened to them in years.
[05:33] <Cheri703> I really hate it when I'm trying to put in all of my purchases, and things don't match up -_- according to the bank site, there's some $37.99 amount that I can't remember...
[05:34] <Cheri703> I just remembered that I didn't grab my receipt at walmart today, but I didn't think it was that much
[05:34] <Cheri703> nvm, I think I figured it out :/ I hate this process ...blah
[05:35] <Unit193> gnucash?
[05:35] <Cheri703> yuppers
[05:36]  * Cheri703 put up our christmas tree tonight
[05:36] <Cheri703> took about 2 minutes
[05:36] <Cheri703> it's a 3ish foot pre-lit artificial :)
[05:36] <Unit193> We might about tomorrow...
[05:36] <Cheri703> going to decorate it when I figure out what I did with the ornaments
[05:37]  * canthus13 is debating putting up a tree this year.
[05:37] <Cheri703> we didn't last year, we just didn't bother with it
[05:37] <Cheri703> this year we're having people over for the holiday, so figure we might as well ;)
[05:38] <Cheri703> this is actually the first time since we've been married that we've had people come to our home around the holidays (not ON christmas, but the day after, and my parents will be here for the weekend)
[05:38] <Cheri703> maybe even the first time since we started dating...
[05:38] <Cheri703> oh, and random note, today (thursday) is our 4 year anniversary! crazy
[05:38] <canthus13> Ah. Congrats.  Our 14th is the 26th.
[05:39] <Cheri703> nice
[05:39] <dmcglone> Congrats to both of you
[05:39] <canthus13> ..and in all those years, I don't think we've ever had anyone here for teh holidays. We've always gone to my parents or hers.
[05:39] <Cheri703> it is 1.0 degrees f right now...
[05:39] <Cheri703> dang
[05:39] <dmcglone> I am off to bed
[05:39] <canthus13> Wow. it's 9 here.
[05:39] <Cheri703> night
[05:39] <Cheri703> hope your meeting with matt goes well!
[05:40] <Unit193> I need to go outsite with no coat on!
[05:40] <dmcglone> canthus13: is't 12:40
[05:40] <dmcglone> anyway, Night all
[05:44] <Unit193> Not too bad out (except the snow on my arm)
[05:45] <Unit193> Trash day tomorrow
[05:46] <Cheri703> why no coat?
[05:46] <canthus13> It's still above 0.
[05:46] <Unit193> Takes too long to put it on...
[05:47] <Cheri703> I've been known to take twice as long in the bundling up as in the actual being outside
[05:47] <Unit193> I'm a freak....what can I say?
[05:51]  * canthus13 has been known to dash out to the mailbox in his boxers in below 0 weather...
[05:52] <Unit193> not done boxers, have done no shoes....
[05:52] <canthus13> Gotta have shoes for snow.
[05:53] <Unit193> Not really... just move fast
[05:56] <canthus13> Heh.
[05:58]  * Cheri703 has LOTS of cold weather gear
[05:58] <Cheri703> I get breathing problems when the air is too cold
[05:58] <Unit193> Yeah, I'm very crazy (just went to get mail, again no coat)
[05:59] <Cheri703> that's part of the problem, I get a REALLY bad uncontrollable cough when the air is below a certain temp, which isn't even that cold :/ so I have to keep my core warm, and I have an awesome facemask for when it's stupid cold, it actually uses your exhaled breath to heat the air you inhale
[05:59] <Cheri703> takes a bit of getting used to, feels like breathing under a blanket at first
[06:01] <Unit193> I don't do well with the cars heater... nasty headache
[06:02] <Cheri703> yeah, I warm up the car and then promptly turn it to "cool air or slightly above"
[19:16] <canthus13> http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/whitejigsaw/whitejigsaw.html <-- this is making my brain itch.  on 12x9 right now.
[19:56] <Unit193> Getting good at it?
[20:38] <canthus13> I'm still working on 12x9...
[21:59] <BiosElement> Hmmm are we skipping the 22's ubuntu hour this month? ANyone happen to know since I'm too lazy to look? >.<
[22:00] <greyfox-> The next one is scheduled for the 29th, and it's still on
[22:01] <BiosElement> Ahh, cool thanks. Gotta remember to swing down there with the shiny chrome laptop ^_^
[22:01] <greyfox-> Ah, very good. I would like to see that
[22:01] <BiosElement> It's pretty slick really
[22:02] <BiosElement> Current annoyance is the password = your gaccount password...which in my case is over 30 chars long randomly generated >.<
[22:02] <BiosElement> Not a problem but it's not something I'm gonna type often in public heh
[22:02] <greyfox-> haha
[22:02] <greyfox-> I guess it must be all in lower-case, then?
[22:02] <BiosElement> After having an account cracked once, I'm paranoid. :P
[22:03] <BiosElement> Nope, it's mixed case
[22:03] <BiosElement> With numbers.
[22:03] <greyfox-> hmm
[22:03] <greyfox-> ok
[22:04] <BiosElement> Awesome... :http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2010/12/16/story-columbus-dunbar-road-robbers-fall-asleep.html?sid=102