=== AndrewMC is now known as Omicron | ||
=== Omicron is now known as AndrewMC | ||
GaryD | hello..does anyone know how to fix lxdmconf? it gives me errors when trying to start it as root. | 03:04 |
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GaryD | no? anyone even reading? | 03:07 |
GaryD | can someone help me with lxdm?....or lxdmconf? | 06:05 |
head_victim | GaryD: sorry I'm not sure how to help other than trying to find the default config and copying that in | 06:10 |
head_victim | You could try the mailing list I'm sure there'd be someone there who would be able to help | 06:10 |
GaryD | head_victim: i have looked everywhere. the problem is that lxdmconf will start as user, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me to run it as root. wehn i run it as root, it sdoesn't start and gives me some errors in the terminal. | 06:12 |
GaryD | here is what i get..... | 06:13 |
head_victim | Ah ok. Can you please paste the error | 06:13 |
GaryD | Traceback (most recent call last): | 06:13 |
GaryD | File "/usr/bin/lxdmconf", line 35, in <module> | 06:13 |
GaryD | import lxadmin.detect_os as detect_os | 06:13 |
GaryD | File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lxadmin/detect_os.py", line 28, in <module> | 06:13 |
GaryD | session = os.environ['DESKTOP_SESSION'] | 06:13 |
GaryD | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ | 06:13 |
GaryD | raise KeyError(key) | 06:13 |
GaryD | KeyError: 'DESKTOP_SESSION' | 06:13 |
head_victim | Ok that's way above my level. If you can hang in here a bit someone will be along or you might get a quicker response from the mailing list or forum | 06:14 |
GaryD | thanks | 06:15 |
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GaryD | hello...can anyone help with lxdmconf? | 14:47 |
GaryD | gilir: maybe you can help? i installed lxdmconf from your ppa for maverick. when i run it from the menu it starts, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me it needs to be root. when i run it with the sudo command i get some errors involving the4 desktop session environment, and it doesn't start at all. | 15:20 |
Newk | hi, how do i edit the menu? | 15:33 |
Newk | synaptic fails to load from the menu.. can only start it from cli | 15:35 |
Newk | and i want to add some things in there | 15:36 |
GaryD | Newk: press alt+F2. run gksu synaptic | 15:38 |
GaryD | Newk: to edit the menu in lubuntu you have to manually edit the menu entries. | 15:39 |
GaryD | Newk: to edit the synaptic entry go to /usr/share/applications as root and edit the synaptic.desktop file. it should say Exec=gksu synaptic | 15:52 |
GaryD | Newk: to create new entries in the menu you need to create a desktop file for the thing you want. you can copy another desktop as a template if you want. i am not too sure how to make the entries show up in specific areas. i usually just copy a desktop file from the section of the menu where i want the new entry to be. all of these desktop files are in /usr/share/applications. | 15:58 |
Newk | GaryD: thank you for the tips i go try it now | 16:04 |
GaryD | ok..yw | 16:05 |
Newk | GaryD: gksu synaptic from the run-promt still gives me the error that my password is incorrect while i'm sure it IS correct... just like from menu... when i run it from cli with sudo it works fine though | 16:08 |
Newk | kinda akward | 16:16 |
szczur | Newk, try gksu -S synaptic | 16:31 |
Newk | ok | 16:31 |
Newk | ahh! that works! | 16:32 |
szczur | :) | 16:34 |
Newk | and after editing the menu by putting the -S option there that also works now | 16:34 |
Newk | :D | 16:34 |
Newk | thanks | 16:35 |
szczur | glag you worked it out :) | 16:35 |
Newk | do you guys know how to cd and execute on one commandline? | 16:35 |
szczur | glad* | 16:35 |
szczur | cd somefolder && somecommand ? | 16:36 |
* Newk tries that | 16:36 | |
Newk | allright! | 16:37 |
Newk | ^_^ | 16:37 |
Newk | hmm.. dunno if that works with the Exec= line in a menu file | 16:41 |
GaryD | Newk: did you get it workedout? | 16:57 |
GaryD | szczur: i believe you are right...cd somefolder && somecommand | 16:57 |
Newk | yes that works from cli.. but it doesnt seem to work in the menu entries | 16:58 |
GaryD | Newk: gksu -S synaptic doesn't work in the menu entry? | 16:59 |
Newk | oh that does! :) | 16:59 |
Newk | but the cd && exe not | 16:59 |
GaryD | Newk: this is what is in my synaptic desktop file. | 17:00 |
GaryD | Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic | 17:00 |
Newk | Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop -S /usr/sbin/synaptic | 17:01 |
Newk | works | 17:01 |
GaryD | what are you trying to cd and command? | 17:01 |
Newk | a game that has been put inside a folder | 17:02 |
Newk | when i compiled it | 17:02 |
Newk | it is called Knights and is a remake of an old amiga game | 17:02 |
GaryD | what did you try? paste the command here | 17:03 |
Newk | Exec=cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights | 17:03 |
szczur | Newk, you're trying to exec program in some foldder | 17:03 |
szczur | try Path variable | 17:03 |
szczur | Path=/home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ | 17:04 |
szczur | Exec=./knigths | 17:04 |
szczur | should work | 17:04 |
GaryD | right. | 17:04 |
szczur | Duke Nukem 3D is awesome :) | 17:04 |
GaryD | Exec=command is the format. | 17:04 |
szczur | everyone should play it | 17:04 |
szczur | Newk, http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html | 17:05 |
szczur | this should help you | 17:05 |
szczur | if you're creating your own *.desktop file | 17:05 |
GaryD | Newk: in a terminal you would leave off the Exec= part. only use cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights | 17:06 |
Newk | that works | 17:07 |
Newk | but not from Exec= | 17:07 |
Newk | also not with path variable set.. tried that | 17:07 |
szczur | :/, what about creating a bash script | 17:08 |
szczur | and then pointing to it with .desktop file | 17:08 |
GaryD | Exec= is only a command in a .desktop file. the Path variable is only used in the .desktop file as well. | 17:08 |
GaryD | that would probably work as well. | 17:08 |
Newk | bash would be the only possibillity for things that need a current dir ...seems so | 17:09 |
szczur | for example script like this > http://pastebin.com/iAjxZgQU named knights.sh placed in your home folder | 17:10 |
szczur | and in desktop file you're pointing to the script >> Exec=/home/newk/knigths.sh | 17:11 |
GaryD | szczur: have you tried the lxdmconf package form the lxde/lubuntu ppa? | 17:11 |
szczur | GaryD, nope | 17:11 |
GaryD | oh | 17:12 |
GaryD | szczur: how about python? know anything about it? | 17:13 |
szczur | GaryD, i haven't but there was someone who were learning python as far as i know | 17:15 |
szczur | don't remember his nickname though | 17:16 |
GaryD | actually, the program comes form a ppa from gilir. he is here now, but not actually. | 17:17 |
GaryD | he hasn't responded anyway. unless it isn't the same gilir | 17:17 |
szczur | got to go, i'll be back in 2 hours or maybe later | 17:17 |
GaryD | peace | 17:18 |
Newk | ah.. i didnt got to thank him :( | 17:19 |
Newk | not that i got it working yet but for the effort | 17:19 |
GaryD | Newk: what is not working yet? | 17:25 |
Newk | i think i'm almost there... | 17:26 |
Newk | yes! | 17:27 |
GaryD | got it? sweet | 17:27 |
Newk | needed to be Exec=sh /home/newk/games/knights_015/knights.sh | 17:27 |
GaryD | now if i could only get my problem resolved. | 17:27 |
Newk | and the knights.sh got a typo | 17:27 |
Newk | you got one with python? | 17:28 |
Newk | i just got started with it.. reading about how it works.. | 17:28 |
GaryD | i think so. | 17:28 |
GaryD | i getr errors when running the program and it doesn't start. | 17:28 |
Newk | so i guess i wont be much of help there :S | 17:29 |
GaryD | oh | 17:29 |
Newk | not even tried to make my first program "hello world" in it :p | 17:29 |
Newk | but i want to get into it to do further work on a .py plugin for blender to import midi files for events in blenders time-line | 17:31 |
Newk | the developer stopped | 17:31 |
GaryD | ah... | 17:31 |
Newk | and debugging doesnt give you clues on what to fix? | 17:33 |
GaryD | how do i debug? | 17:33 |
Newk | SPE or IDLE has those right? | 17:34 |
GaryD | ??? | 17:34 |
Newk | python editors | 17:42 |
Newk | they should have debugging functions i guess | 17:42 |
GaryD | oh...i can edit the files with leafpad...but i don't know the first thing about python. | 17:42 |
GaryD | the problem is that the program starts as user, but not as root. it should be ran as root for the changes to be applied. | 17:43 |
Newk | try running them from those editors | 17:45 |
GaryD | or is ther some command to set root's sessionto gnome, xfce, or lxde? | 17:45 |
Newk | beyond me yet | 17:48 |
Newk | gotta go.. i wish you succes! | 17:48 |
GaryD | bye...thanks | 17:50 |
GaryD | got it working by using gksu -k lxdmconf | 18:05 |
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tupper_tom | hey i was wondering if it is possible to run Xfce instead of LXDE? | 21:02 |
Yorvyk | tupper_tom: yes | 21:02 |
mark76 | It wouldn't be Lubuntu then, would it? | 21:02 |
mark76 | It'd be Xubuntu | 21:02 |
tupper_tom | heheh mark76 | 21:02 |
tupper_tom | but Xubuntu is slower is it not? | 21:03 |
bioterror | depends | 21:03 |
tupper_tom | ok do you think Thunar will preform ok or better inside LXDE? | 21:04 |
Yorvyk | tupper_tom: It’s OK in LXDE | 21:05 |
mark76 | Ok or better than? | 21:05 |
tupper_tom | PCman ..sorry | 21:05 |
mark76 | Ah right | 21:05 |
Yorvyk | In what way better | 21:06 |
tupper_tom | faster | 21:06 |
Yorvyk | No | 21:06 |
tupper_tom | one more question....should i have asked these questions in the other IRC channel "off-topic" ? | 21:07 |
Yorvyk | From my experince they’re about the same | 21:07 |
Yorvyk | Not really as it is about Lubuntu and alternatives to it’s stock programs | 21:08 |
tupper_tom | I have been running Lubuntu on my Eeepc 1005HA and I love it! | 21:09 |
Yorvyk | JUst install Thunar and give it a run, that’s the only way to see if It’s better for you. | 21:10 |
tupper_tom | ya i was curious what others thought thanks | 21:10 |
tupper_tom | Does Lubuntu have a Forum of it's own? | 21:11 |
Yorvyk | No. Just use the Ubuntu Fora and tag any question Lubuntu | 21:12 |
phillw | tupper_tom: we tend to discuss things on the mailing list, I do hold a sub forum area and the main Forum area just needs the Lubuntu tags on as Yorvyk has said. | 21:13 |
tupper_tom | How close is Lubuntu to being recognized as an official part of the *buntu family by Canonical? | 21:14 |
tupper_tom | phillw:thanks | 21:15 |
phillw | tupper_tom: Canonical are still working out an official apodoption process. http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=251 | 21:17 |
tupper_tom | phillw: thanks again | 21:19 |
phillw | tupper_tom: and from my work across various teams, we are treated that way. There is a lot of good will to the Lubuntu project. | 21:19 |
tupper_tom | phillw: well u got my vote ..nice job | 21:20 |
phillw | tupper_tom: to keep up to where things are, or ask questions, get on the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved | 21:21 |
tupper_tom | will do thanks phillw | 21:22 |
* phillw is just a lowly admin person who tries to keep up with the devs :P | 21:22 | |
tupper_tom | hehheee well g2g thanks for all your help everyone | 21:29 |
GaryD | dang...lxdmconf still not working.....arggh...thought it was fixed with gksu -k option, but nope. program starts, but doesn't actually save the changes. | 23:45 |
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