=== AndrewMC is now known as Omicron === Omicron is now known as AndrewMC [03:04] hello..does anyone know how to fix lxdmconf? it gives me errors when trying to start it as root. [03:07] no? anyone even reading? [06:05] can someone help me with lxdm?....or lxdmconf? [06:10] GaryD: sorry I'm not sure how to help other than trying to find the default config and copying that in [06:10] You could try the mailing list I'm sure there'd be someone there who would be able to help [06:12] head_victim: i have looked everywhere. the problem is that lxdmconf will start as user, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me to run it as root. wehn i run it as root, it sdoesn't start and gives me some errors in the terminal. [06:13] here is what i get..... [06:13] Ah ok. Can you please paste the error [06:13] Traceback (most recent call last): [06:13] File "/usr/bin/lxdmconf", line 35, in [06:13] import lxadmin.detect_os as detect_os [06:13] File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lxadmin/detect_os.py", line 28, in [06:13] session = os.environ['DESKTOP_SESSION'] [06:13] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ [06:13] raise KeyError(key) [06:13] KeyError: 'DESKTOP_SESSION' [06:14] Ok that's way above my level. If you can hang in here a bit someone will be along or you might get a quicker response from the mailing list or forum [06:15] thanks === BWMerlin_ is now known as BWMerlin [14:47] hello...can anyone help with lxdmconf? [15:20] gilir: maybe you can help? i installed lxdmconf from your ppa for maverick. when i run it from the menu it starts, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me it needs to be root. when i run it with the sudo command i get some errors involving the4 desktop session environment, and it doesn't start at all. [15:33] hi, how do i edit the menu? [15:35] synaptic fails to load from the menu.. can only start it from cli [15:36] and i want to add some things in there [15:38] Newk: press alt+F2. run gksu synaptic [15:39] Newk: to edit the menu in lubuntu you have to manually edit the menu entries. [15:52] Newk: to edit the synaptic entry go to /usr/share/applications as root and edit the synaptic.desktop file. it should say Exec=gksu synaptic [15:58] Newk: to create new entries in the menu you need to create a desktop file for the thing you want. you can copy another desktop as a template if you want. i am not too sure how to make the entries show up in specific areas. i usually just copy a desktop file from the section of the menu where i want the new entry to be. all of these desktop files are in /usr/share/applications. [16:04] GaryD: thank you for the tips i go try it now [16:05] ok..yw [16:08] GaryD: gksu synaptic from the run-promt still gives me the error that my password is incorrect while i'm sure it IS correct... just like from menu... when i run it from cli with sudo it works fine though [16:16] kinda akward [16:31] Newk, try gksu -S synaptic [16:31] ok [16:32] ahh! that works! [16:34] :) [16:34] and after editing the menu by putting the -S option there that also works now [16:34] :D [16:35] thanks [16:35] glag you worked it out :) [16:35] do you guys know how to cd and execute on one commandline? [16:35] glad* [16:36] cd somefolder && somecommand ? [16:36] * Newk tries that [16:37] allright! [16:37] ^_^ [16:41] hmm.. dunno if that works with the Exec= line in a menu file [16:57] Newk: did you get it workedout? [16:57] szczur: i believe you are right...cd somefolder && somecommand [16:58] yes that works from cli.. but it doesnt seem to work in the menu entries [16:59] Newk: gksu -S synaptic doesn't work in the menu entry? [16:59] oh that does! :) [16:59] but the cd && exe not [17:00] Newk: this is what is in my synaptic desktop file. [17:00] Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic [17:01] Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop -S /usr/sbin/synaptic [17:01] works [17:01] what are you trying to cd and command? [17:02] a game that has been put inside a folder [17:02] when i compiled it [17:02] it is called Knights and is a remake of an old amiga game [17:03] what did you try? paste the command here [17:03] Exec=cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights [17:03] Newk, you're trying to exec program in some foldder [17:03] try Path variable [17:04] Path=/home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ [17:04] Exec=./knigths [17:04] should work [17:04] right. [17:04] Duke Nukem 3D is awesome :) [17:04] Exec=command is the format. [17:04] everyone should play it [17:05] Newk, http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html [17:05] this should help you [17:05] if you're creating your own *.desktop file [17:06] Newk: in a terminal you would leave off the Exec= part. only use cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights [17:07] that works [17:07] but not from Exec= [17:07] also not with path variable set.. tried that [17:08] :/, what about creating a bash script [17:08] and then pointing to it with .desktop file [17:08] Exec= is only a command in a .desktop file. the Path variable is only used in the .desktop file as well. [17:08] that would probably work as well. [17:09] bash would be the only possibillity for things that need a current dir ...seems so [17:10] for example script like this > http://pastebin.com/iAjxZgQU named knights.sh placed in your home folder [17:11] and in desktop file you're pointing to the script >> Exec=/home/newk/knigths.sh [17:11] szczur: have you tried the lxdmconf package form the lxde/lubuntu ppa? [17:11] GaryD, nope [17:12] oh [17:13] szczur: how about python? know anything about it? [17:15] GaryD, i haven't but there was someone who were learning python as far as i know [17:16] don't remember his nickname though [17:17] actually, the program comes form a ppa from gilir. he is here now, but not actually. [17:17] he hasn't responded anyway. unless it isn't the same gilir [17:17] got to go, i'll be back in 2 hours or maybe later [17:18] peace [17:19] ah.. i didnt got to thank him :( [17:19] not that i got it working yet but for the effort [17:25] Newk: what is not working yet? [17:26] i think i'm almost there... [17:27] yes! [17:27] got it? sweet [17:27] needed to be Exec=sh /home/newk/games/knights_015/knights.sh [17:27] now if i could only get my problem resolved. [17:27] and the knights.sh got a typo [17:28] you got one with python? [17:28] i just got started with it.. reading about how it works.. [17:28] i think so. [17:28] i getr errors when running the program and it doesn't start. [17:29] so i guess i wont be much of help there :S [17:29] oh [17:29] not even tried to make my first program "hello world" in it :p [17:31] but i want to get into it to do further work on a .py plugin for blender to import midi files for events in blenders time-line [17:31] the developer stopped [17:31] ah... [17:33] and debugging doesnt give you clues on what to fix? [17:33] how do i debug? [17:34] SPE or IDLE has those right? [17:34] ??? [17:42] python editors [17:42] they should have debugging functions i guess [17:42] oh...i can edit the files with leafpad...but i don't know the first thing about python. [17:43] the problem is that the program starts as user, but not as root. it should be ran as root for the changes to be applied. [17:45] try running them from those editors [17:45] or is ther some command to set root's sessionto gnome, xfce, or lxde? [17:48] beyond me yet [17:48] gotta go.. i wish you succes! [17:50] bye...thanks [18:05] got it working by using gksu -k lxdmconf === fredrik__ is now known as friTTe| [21:02] hey i was wondering if it is possible to run Xfce instead of LXDE? [21:02] tupper_tom: yes [21:02] It wouldn't be Lubuntu then, would it? [21:02] It'd be Xubuntu [21:02] heheh mark76 [21:03] but Xubuntu is slower is it not? [21:03] depends [21:04] ok do you think Thunar will preform ok or better inside LXDE? [21:05] tupper_tom: It’s OK in LXDE [21:05] Ok or better than? [21:05] PCman ..sorry [21:05] Ah right [21:06] In what way better [21:06] faster [21:06] No [21:07] one more question....should i have asked these questions in the other IRC channel "off-topic" ? [21:07] From my experince they’re about the same [21:08] Not really as it is about Lubuntu and alternatives to it’s stock programs [21:09] I have been running Lubuntu on my Eeepc 1005HA and I love it! [21:10] JUst install Thunar and give it a run, that’s the only way to see if It’s better for you. [21:10] ya i was curious what others thought thanks [21:11] Does Lubuntu have a Forum of it's own? [21:12] No. Just use the Ubuntu Fora and tag any question Lubuntu [21:13] tupper_tom: we tend to discuss things on the mailing list, I do hold a sub forum area and the main Forum area just needs the Lubuntu tags on as Yorvyk has said. [21:14] How close is Lubuntu to being recognized as an official part of the *buntu family by Canonical? [21:15] phillw:thanks [21:17] tupper_tom: Canonical are still working out an official apodoption process. http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=251 [21:19] phillw: thanks again [21:19] tupper_tom: and from my work across various teams, we are treated that way. There is a lot of good will to the Lubuntu project. [21:20] phillw: well u got my vote ..nice job [21:21] tupper_tom: to keep up to where things are, or ask questions, get on the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved [21:22] will do thanks phillw [21:22] * phillw is just a lowly admin person who tries to keep up with the devs :P [21:29] hehheee well g2g thanks for all your help everyone [23:45] dang...lxdmconf still not working.....arggh...thought it was fixed with gksu -k option, but nope. program starts, but doesn't actually save the changes.