[03:04] <GaryD> hello..does anyone know how to fix lxdmconf? it gives me errors when trying to start it as root.
[03:07] <GaryD> no? anyone even reading?
[06:05] <GaryD> can someone help me with lxdm?....or lxdmconf?
[06:10] <head_victim> GaryD: sorry I'm not sure how to help other than trying to find the default config and copying that in
[06:10] <head_victim> You could try the mailing list I'm sure there'd be someone there who would be able to help
[06:12] <GaryD> head_victim: i have looked everywhere. the problem is that lxdmconf will start as user, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me to run it as root. wehn i run it as root, it sdoesn't start and gives me some errors in the terminal.
[06:13] <GaryD> here is what i get.....
[06:13] <head_victim> Ah ok. Can you please paste the error
[06:13] <GaryD> Traceback (most recent call last):
[06:13] <GaryD>   File "/usr/bin/lxdmconf", line 35, in <module>
[06:13] <GaryD>     import lxadmin.detect_os as detect_os
[06:13] <GaryD>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/lxadmin/detect_os.py", line 28, in <module>
[06:13] <GaryD>     session = os.environ['DESKTOP_SESSION']
[06:13] <GaryD>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__
[06:13] <GaryD>     raise KeyError(key)
[06:13] <GaryD> KeyError: 'DESKTOP_SESSION'
[06:14] <head_victim> Ok that's way above my level. If you can hang in here a bit someone will be along or you might get a quicker response from the mailing list or forum
[06:15] <GaryD> thanks
[14:47] <GaryD> hello...can anyone help with lxdmconf?
[15:20] <GaryD> gilir: maybe you can help? i installed lxdmconf from your ppa for maverick. when i run it from the menu it starts, but when i try to apply the changes it tells me it needs to be root. when i run it with the sudo command i get some errors involving the4 desktop session environment, and it doesn't start at all.
[15:33] <Newk> hi, how do i edit the menu?
[15:35] <Newk> synaptic fails to load from the menu.. can only start it from cli
[15:36] <Newk> and i want to add some things in there
[15:38] <GaryD> Newk: press alt+F2. run gksu synaptic
[15:39] <GaryD> Newk: to edit the menu in lubuntu you have to manually edit the menu entries.
[15:52] <GaryD> Newk:  to edit the synaptic entry go to /usr/share/applications as root and edit the synaptic.desktop file. it should say Exec=gksu synaptic
[15:58] <GaryD> Newk: to create new entries in the menu you need to create a desktop file for the thing you want. you can copy another desktop as a template if you want. i am not too sure how to make the entries show up in specific areas. i usually just copy a desktop file from the section of the menu where i want the new entry to be. all of these desktop files are in /usr/share/applications.
[16:04] <Newk> GaryD: thank you for the tips i go try it now
[16:05] <GaryD> ok..yw
[16:08] <Newk> GaryD: gksu synaptic from the run-promt still gives me the error that my password is incorrect while i'm sure it IS correct... just like from menu... when i run it from cli with sudo it works fine though
[16:16] <Newk> kinda akward
[16:31] <szczur> Newk, try gksu -S synaptic
[16:31] <Newk> ok
[16:32] <Newk> ahh! that works!
[16:34] <szczur> :)
[16:34] <Newk> and after editing the menu by putting the -S option there that also works now
[16:34] <Newk> :D
[16:35] <Newk> thanks
[16:35] <szczur> glag you worked it out :)
[16:35] <Newk> do you guys know how to cd and execute on one commandline?
[16:35] <szczur> glad*
[16:36] <szczur> cd somefolder && somecommand ?
[16:36]  * Newk tries that
[16:37] <Newk> allright!
[16:37] <Newk> ^_^
[16:41] <Newk> hmm.. dunno if that works with the Exec= line in a menu file
[16:57] <GaryD> Newk: did you get it workedout?
[16:57] <GaryD> szczur: i believe you are right...cd somefolder && somecommand
[16:58] <Newk> yes that works from cli.. but it doesnt seem to work in the menu entries
[16:59] <GaryD> Newk: gksu -S synaptic doesn't work in the menu entry?
[16:59] <Newk> oh that does! :)
[16:59] <Newk> but the cd && exe not
[17:00] <GaryD> Newk: this is what is in my synaptic desktop file.
[17:00] <GaryD> Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic
[17:01] <Newk> Exec=gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop -S /usr/sbin/synaptic
[17:01] <Newk> works
[17:01] <GaryD> what are you trying to cd and command?
[17:02] <Newk> a game that has been put inside a folder
[17:02] <Newk> when i compiled it
[17:02] <Newk> it is called Knights and is a remake of an old amiga game
[17:03] <GaryD> what did you try? paste the command here
[17:03] <Newk> Exec=cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights
[17:03] <szczur> Newk, you're trying to exec program in some foldder
[17:03] <szczur> try Path variable
[17:04] <szczur> Path=/home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/
[17:04] <szczur> Exec=./knigths
[17:04] <szczur> should work
[17:04] <GaryD> right.
[17:04] <szczur> Duke Nukem 3D is awesome :)
[17:04] <GaryD> Exec=command is the format.
[17:04] <szczur> everyone should play it
[17:05] <szczur> Newk, http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
[17:05] <szczur> this should help you
[17:05] <szczur> if you're creating your own *.desktop file
[17:06] <GaryD> Newk: in a terminal you would leave off the Exec= part. only use cd /home/newk/games/knights_015/bin/ && ./knights
[17:07] <Newk> that works
[17:07] <Newk> but not from Exec=
[17:07] <Newk> also not with path variable set.. tried that
[17:08] <szczur> :/, what about creating a bash script
[17:08] <szczur> and then pointing to it with .desktop file
[17:08] <GaryD> Exec= is only a command in a .desktop file. the Path variable is only used in the .desktop file as well.
[17:08] <GaryD> that would probably work as well.
[17:09] <Newk> bash would be the only possibillity for things that need a current dir ...seems so
[17:10] <szczur> for example script like this > http://pastebin.com/iAjxZgQU named knights.sh placed in your home folder
[17:11] <szczur> and in desktop file you're pointing to the script >> Exec=/home/newk/knigths.sh
[17:11] <GaryD> szczur: have you tried the lxdmconf package form the lxde/lubuntu ppa?
[17:11] <szczur> GaryD, nope
[17:12] <GaryD> oh
[17:13] <GaryD> szczur: how about python? know anything about it?
[17:15] <szczur> GaryD, i haven't but there was someone who were learning python as far as i know
[17:16] <szczur> don't remember his nickname though
[17:17] <GaryD> actually, the program comes form a ppa from gilir. he is here now, but not actually.
[17:17] <GaryD> he hasn't responded anyway. unless it isn't the same gilir
[17:17] <szczur> got to go, i'll be back in 2 hours or maybe later
[17:18] <GaryD> peace
[17:19] <Newk> ah.. i didnt got to thank him :(
[17:19] <Newk> not that i got it working yet but for the effort
[17:25] <GaryD> Newk: what is not working yet?
[17:26] <Newk> i think i'm almost there...
[17:27] <Newk> yes!
[17:27] <GaryD> got it? sweet
[17:27] <Newk> needed to be Exec=sh /home/newk/games/knights_015/knights.sh
[17:27] <GaryD> now if i could only get my problem resolved.
[17:27] <Newk> and the knights.sh got a typo
[17:28] <Newk> you got one with python?
[17:28] <Newk> i just got started with it.. reading about how it works..
[17:28] <GaryD> i think so.
[17:28] <GaryD> i getr errors when running the program and it doesn't start.
[17:29] <Newk> so i guess i wont be much of help there :S
[17:29] <GaryD> oh
[17:29] <Newk> not even tried to make my first program "hello world" in it :p
[17:31] <Newk> but i want to get into it to do further work on a .py plugin for blender to import midi files for events in blenders time-line
[17:31] <Newk> the developer stopped
[17:31] <GaryD> ah...
[17:33] <Newk> and debugging doesnt give you clues on what to fix?
[17:33] <GaryD> how do i debug?
[17:34] <Newk> SPE or IDLE has those right?
[17:34] <GaryD> ???
[17:42] <Newk> python editors
[17:42] <Newk> they should have debugging functions i guess
[17:42] <GaryD> oh...i can edit the files with leafpad...but i don't know the first thing about python.
[17:43] <GaryD> the problem is that the program starts as user, but not as root. it should be ran as root for the changes to be applied.
[17:45] <Newk> try running them from those editors
[17:45] <GaryD> or is ther some command to set root's sessionto gnome, xfce, or lxde?
[17:48] <Newk> beyond me yet
[17:48] <Newk> gotta go.. i wish you succes!
[17:50] <GaryD> bye...thanks
[18:05] <GaryD> got it working by using gksu -k lxdmconf
[21:02] <tupper_tom> hey i was wondering if it is possible to run Xfce instead of LXDE?
[21:02] <Yorvyk> tupper_tom: yes
[21:02] <mark76> It wouldn't be Lubuntu then, would it?
[21:02] <mark76> It'd be Xubuntu
[21:02] <tupper_tom> heheh mark76
[21:03] <tupper_tom> but Xubuntu is slower is it not?
[21:03] <bioterror> depends
[21:04] <tupper_tom> ok do you think Thunar will preform ok or better inside LXDE?
[21:05] <Yorvyk> tupper_tom: It’s OK in LXDE
[21:05] <mark76> Ok or better than?
[21:05] <tupper_tom> PCman ..sorry
[21:05] <mark76> Ah right
[21:06] <Yorvyk> In what way better
[21:06] <tupper_tom> faster
[21:06] <Yorvyk> No
[21:07] <tupper_tom> one more question....should i have asked these questions in the other IRC channel "off-topic" ?
[21:07] <Yorvyk> From my experince they’re about the same
[21:08] <Yorvyk> Not really as it is about Lubuntu and alternatives to it’s stock programs
[21:09] <tupper_tom> I have been running Lubuntu on my Eeepc 1005HA and I love it!
[21:10] <Yorvyk> JUst install Thunar and give it a run, that’s the only way to see if It’s better for you.
[21:10] <tupper_tom> ya i was curious what others thought thanks
[21:11] <tupper_tom> Does Lubuntu have a Forum of it's own?
[21:12] <Yorvyk> No.  Just use the Ubuntu Fora and tag any question Lubuntu
[21:13] <phillw> tupper_tom: we tend to discuss things on the mailing list, I do hold a sub forum area and the main Forum area just needs the Lubuntu tags on as Yorvyk has said.
[21:14] <tupper_tom> How close is Lubuntu to being recognized as an official part of the *buntu family by Canonical?
[21:15] <tupper_tom> phillw:thanks
[21:17] <phillw> tupper_tom: Canonical are still working out an official apodoption process. http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=251
[21:19] <tupper_tom> phillw: thanks again
[21:19] <phillw> tupper_tom: and from my work across various teams, we are treated that way. There is a lot of good will to the Lubuntu project.
[21:20] <tupper_tom> phillw: well u got my vote ..nice job
[21:21] <phillw> tupper_tom: to keep up to where things are, or ask questions, get on the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[21:22] <tupper_tom> will do thanks phillw
[21:22]  * phillw is just a lowly admin person who tries to keep up with the devs :P
[21:29] <tupper_tom> hehheee well g2g thanks for all your help everyone
[23:45] <GaryD> dang...lxdmconf still not working.....arggh...thought it was fixed with gksu -k option, but nope. program starts, but doesn't actually save the changes.