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circlejtpTesting Daily image.  Suffering from bug #685017 so can't get gdm start.  How can I install to hard disk from USB drive without GDM?00:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 685017 in jockey (Ubuntu Natty) "Jockey should warn on insufficient disk space in LiveCD environment, else get error "package nvidia-current 260.19.21-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68501700:02
circlejtpLet me rephrase better.  Bug does not allow gdm start when running in livecd mode from USB.  Would like to install Natty to local hard drive from command line on livecd.  GDM should run once installed to local hard drive.00:06
radicirclejtp, i did upgrade from 10.10 and everything works perfect00:09
radii even had a but before the update, now is gone00:10
radia bug*00:10
radiubuntu 10,10*00:10
circlejtpradi, I appreciate that but this is clean hard drive.  I could install 10.10 and then upgrade but was hoping to just clean install00:10
radikde or gnome ?00:11
circlejtpgnome00:11
circlejtplooking to launch a text mode installer if it is on usb livecd00:11
circlejtpmay have to do the alternate CD thing00:12
radimaybe, i dont know here to get bleeding edge ubuntu with gnome, but kubuntu has a nice solution to that00:13
charlie-tcaI think live cd is gui based only, even when you install instead of trying it first00:14
radichroot ?00:14
circlejtpso far that is my experience and what i suspect.  Was just hoping to work around.  Will probably flash 10.10 and then upgrade.  Don't have DVD burner and CD image is oversized at moment.  So can't get Natty on there otherwise00:15
charlie-tcayup. The text installer is the alternate image now00:16
radii would go for 10.10 and upgrade, as this is what i did and everything works00:16
circlejtpgoing to pull down alternate alpha 1 and text install from there00:18
radibtw it seems that alpha is pretty stable00:18
radiwhy they call it alpha ;P00:18
radieven 1080p clips with flash run smoother as this is 64 bit too00:18
BUGabundoyay sudo fixed00:19
BUGabundonow need to fix my debian box too00:19
BUGabundobrb00:19
charlie-tcaHello, BUGabundo00:19
BUGabundonow for good00:22
charlie-tcaI forgot to update and missed the fun of that one00:23
BUGabundoohhhh00:23
BUGabundoFAIL00:23
charlie-tca huh?00:23
BUGabundonot having fun00:24
charlie-tcasorry00:24
charlie-tcaIs it fixed now?00:25
BUGabundoyes00:25
BUGabundokernel linux 2.6.37.9-22.... time does move fast!00:35
charlie-tcayes00:35
charlie-tcaanyone know how to make virtualbox work in natty again?00:35
* charlie-tca broke his bad... it won't work at all00:35
BUGabundono ideia00:35
BUGabundois it broken?00:36
charlie-tcaum, yes, it is broken00:36
charlie-tcaWon't let me start any VBox machines00:36
BUGabundohave your reconfigured it?00:39
charlie-tcaI re-installed it00:39
charlie-tca but it did not care at all00:40
BUGabundothat won't do it00:40
charlie-tcaWhat do I have to do, then?00:41
BUGabundoit usually tells you to run a vdbox reconfigure or setup, something00:41
BUGabundodon't recall. no VB box here00:41
BUGabundoI get everytime I change kernels00:42
charlie-tcaIt has just been giving me error numbers, and I can't remember the command either00:42
charlie-tcaProbably something with the latest kernel... Maverick did this to00:43
charlie-tcaheh00:43
charlie-tcamodprobe vboxdrv failed00:44
charlie-tcakernel is too new00:44
BUGabundoyep00:48
BUGabundoboot into the older one, till its fixed :)00:48
FloridaGuyjusy install ubuntu 11.04 with kde...4.6 beta 2...everything seems great..just cant get icons  panel to work01:00
hggdhcharlie-tca: it seems vboxdrv is getting a kernel oops01:14
hggdhcharlie-tca: look at your dmesg, you should see it01:14
* hggdh is going to open a bug as soon as time allows01:14
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charlie-tcaThanks, hggdh. I haven't been able to find that yet01:25
charlie-tcaI knew it had to be something besides the "turn on ecc ram" when the machine can't use it01:25
hggdhcharlie-tca: in my case I see it as a result of a modprobe on boot01:25
charlie-tcaI'll look again01:25
charlie-tcaWe did the same thing last release in alpha, though01:26
hggdhcharlie-tca: remember the "three passwords wrong" on gksudo?01:27
hggdhI think I got it back...01:27
charlie-tcacrap01:28
BUGabundololol01:31
BUGabundoreally?01:31
BUGabundocould be left overs from the sudo fix01:32
charlie-tcano oops here01:32
charlie-tcanot in dmesg or syslog01:32
hggdhweird01:33
charlie-tcaall I got is ECC disabled; either enable it or force it01:33
charlie-tcaand this system is not ecc capable01:33
charlie-tcahggdh: I know you are right, I just can't find the fail lines.01:36
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charlie-tcaand now, how do I get google in English again?01:55
BUGabundoin the bottom02:02
BUGabundothere should be a link to language02:02
charlie-tcaᎤᏂᎳᏛ ᎤᏓᏴᎳᏛᎢ Realtime ᏚᎾᏓᏡᎬ02:02
charlie-tcaᏁᎵᏍᏔᏅᏒ | ᏣᏲᎦ ᏕᎦᎧᎲᎢ | ᎠᏴᏍᏗ02:02
charlie-tcaGoogle02:02
BUGabundoor go to Advanced and change it02:02
BUGabundonight02:02
charlie-tcawhich one is it?02:02
BUGabundoahhaaahhahahaaha02:02
BUGabundoclear cookies :)02:02
charlie-tcalol02:03
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charlie-tcahggdh: I see the modprobe vboxdrv failed, but I can not find it in dmesg... frustrated now02:41
charlie-tcaIt just isn't logging to dmesg for some reason02:42
hggdhcharlie-tca: try /var/log/kern.log03:00
charlie-tcaI did03:01
charlie-tcaI checked every log file and can't find it03:01
hggdhok. I know it is dumb, but try 'grep "Call Trace:" /var/log/* 2>/dev/null03:01
hggdh'03:02
charlie-tcaThat's the one. Thanks. Let me try that03:02
charlie-tcayup03:05
hggdhgot it?03:05
charlie-tcagives the trace in kern.log03:05
hggdhI am going to open a bug on it (or will you?)03:05
hggdhdoing it now03:06
charlie-tcago ahead.03:07
charlie-tcaStill looks like a incompatiblility with the new kernel to me03:07
hggdhoh boy. "Please wait while bug data is processed. ...". This morning it took almost 30 min03:07
charlie-tcaBut I will confirm it03:07
hggdhcharlie-tca: might be, IDK03:07
charlie-tcaOh, goody03:07
hggdhI do not remember if vBox uses DKMS03:10
hggdhOK. I am going to watch a movie, and will be back every 10 min or so to see if LP finally ate the whole bug report03:10
charlie-tcait's a recommended, I think03:11
hggdhstill waiting...03:15
charlie-tcanp, I'll wait too03:15
charlie-tcago watch the movie03:15
hggdhk03:15
hggdhbrb03:15
hggdhstill waiting04:16
charlie-tcalol04:17
charlie-tcaWell, I might have to confirm tomorrow, too. but I am still here...04:19
hggdhyeah. I will hit the bed, Charlie. Tomorrow morning I will be here, and we will go from there04:27
hggdhgood night, charlie-tca04:27
charlie-tcaGood night04:28
MTecknologywhat's the deal here?.... I only saw really ugly breaking in natty once so far04:54
MTecknologywhat a boring release cycle :P04:54
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=== IdleOne changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | UDS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/ | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Gir ABI change rebuilds going on, please wait until all packages are rebuilt and be aware of partial upgrades
das2k_117Hello everyone09:38
das2k_117i want to set the desktop09:38
das2k_117in natty09:38
das2k_117as it was in 10.1009:38
rigveddas2k_117: what do you exactly want to do?09:41
rigveddas2k_117: ok. so you want the same gnome panels that you had in 10.10?09:43
das2k_117aye09:43
das2k_117also m not getting wifi enable in natty09:43
das2k_117so was willing to downgrade09:43
das2k_117but i guess that is not quite possible09:43
rigved!downgrade | das2k_11709:45
ubottudas2k_117: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.09:45
rigveddas2k_117: yes it's not09:45
das2k_117yes i know09:45
das2k_117so i hv aborted that plan09:45
das2k_117but i need to get wifi running09:45
das2k_117i tried installing various09:45
das2k_117drivers09:45
das2k_117but no help09:45
rigveddas2k_117: you can start 11.04 in the classic desktop setting when you log in.09:46
das2k_117in that i have to lauch panels by myself09:46
rigveddas2k_117: that way, you can get GUI access to the NM applet09:46
rigveddas2k_117: ohh09:46
das2k_117i get access to NM09:46
das2k_117i lauch nm-applet09:46
das2k_117but the wifi is not getting enable09:47
das2k_117my system is09:47
das2k_117HP HDX 1609:47
das2k_11764bit ubuntu09:47
rigveddas2k_117: ok.do you have wpa_supplicant installed?09:48
das2k_117no,09:49
das2k_117i don't have it installed09:49
rigveddas2k_117: and is your wifi encrypted?09:49
jbichahow about trying sudo NetworkManager from the terminal?09:49
das2k_117nm is working09:53
das2k_117nm-applet is working09:53
das2k_117and both are launched too09:53
das2k_117Ethernet cable09:53
das2k_117give me n/w09:53
das2k_117which i m using rite now09:53
das2k_117but i don't get wifi09:53
rigveddas2k_117: is your wifi connection encrypted? then you need to install wpa_supplicant09:53
das2k_117i need to relay wifi09:54
das2k_117it is not dat i m not able to connect to ne network09:55
das2k_117but the wifi does not gets enabled at all09:55
das2k_117i m trying the partial upgrade09:55
das2k_117hope that helps09:55
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rigveddas2k_117: no. i think partial upgrade won't help. but you can give it a try09:56
shcherbaktry WPA & WPA2 Personal as wireless secirity, if this fails try WEP10:41
jpdsshcherbak: 'if this fails' ?10:47
shcherbakups wrong channel10:48
shcherbaktoo many tabs ;(10:48
shcherbakjpds: omg! Do you think many people have seen this?10:49
jpdsshcherbak: About 185.10:50
shcherbakjpds: Good, Have been told that only above 200 is define as public embarasement10:51
brotshcherbak: we could post this to bash.org10:56
* shcherbak chokes10:59
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hggdhcharlie-tca: still waiting ;-)13:42
hggdhI am cancelling it, and opening the bug by hand13:42
charlie-tcaI filed one already for another vbox issue13:42
charlie-tcabug 69152713:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 691527 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Removing VirtualBox installs dangerous applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69152713:42
charlie-tcaI can't remove it anymore13:42
coz_anyone having issues with no launcher and no upper panel with todays updates?13:55
IdleOnecoz_: everything seems ok here for now.14:01
charlie-tcacoz_: did compiz crash?14:02
coz_charlie-tca,  no it didnt... but there was a compiz core and plugins update14:02
IdleOnegir1.2 packages are still all crazy14:02
coz_charlie-tca,   which means  a reset of of settings in cssm  but after reboot   no launcher or upper panel14:02
charlie-tcayeah14:02
charlie-tcaSeeing compiz crash and take the panel and dock with it14:03
coz_charlie-tca,  well generally  a   "unity  & disown in terminal or gmrun  just   unity resets things14:03
coz_there seems to be no run dialog   aka   alt+F2  in unity14:05
coz_so i installed gmrun   which works when I have to reset  nux instance  with    "unity"14:05
coz_I am in classic gnome right now let me log off and try it again14:06
coz_nope...launcher and upper panel appear for a few seconds than ...gone14:11
coz_doing update && dist-upgrade again to check14:11
charlie-tcaIt is being looked into already14:11
coz_ok14:11
coz_is anyone packaging the compiz plugins extra  ?14:12
charlie-tcadon't know14:14
coz_ok14:15
coz_ah I prefer the classic gnome anyway :)14:16
c0nsensehello! anyone know if ubuntu 11.04 alpha works on VirtualBox?14:25
coz_c0nsense,  it may work with classic gnome  but probably not  unity14:25
coz_c0nsense,   but in alll honesty,,, I have not attemptd it at all14:26
c0nsensecoz_: understand, and, if i'm using 10.10 on a real machine and get install unity, can i install unity same with 10.10?14:26
coz_c0nsense,   not sure I understand...you mean install unity onto 10.10 ?14:27
coz_c0nsense,  again I havent attempted that... geneally I clean install  a system when it is of a different version and I no longer attmept upgrades from one version to then next14:27
c0nsensecoz_: yeah! I'm running ubuntu 10.10 and i want install unity, can i install without problems or i need use 11.04 to try unity?14:28
coz_c0nsense,  i am going to suggest installing 11.04  clean... again I have not attempted unity on 10.1014:28
charlie-tcac0nsense: VBox does not allow unity and compiz. You can run the classic desktop in it only]14:28
coz_c0nsense,   and of course...  it is alpha :)14:28
c0nsenseso, I'll be just 10.10 same!14:30
c0nsenselol14:30
coz_c0nsense,  what is you native language?14:30
c0nsensecoz_: Portuguese, why? i know that my english is sucks!14:31
coz_c0nsense,  just wanted to know... no !  your english is pretty good  :)14:31
c0nsensecoz_: really!? O_o it's serious? I think so my english is very sucks.14:32
coz_c0nsense,   well I can understand  you :) eu posso te entender14:33
c0nsensecoz_: I know! if you ask me "what is you native language?" it's because is difficult to understand.14:35
coz_c0nsense,  no  I just noticed some  difference in the way you make a sentence.... but  it is understandable14:35
c0nsensecoz_: but i think so nothing bad to a boy that never learn english on specific's english school, and have just 17 years old.14:36
coz_c0nsense,   very good  then :)14:36
c0nsensecoz_: haha! lol! how old are you!?14:37
coz_c0nsense,  sujeira como o velho14:37
c0nsensecoz_: !!! i found a web page with unity on 10.10.14:38
c0nsensecoz_: how to.14:38
coz_ok14:38
c0nsensecoz_: do you wanna see?14:38
coz_c0nsense,   sure14:38
c0nsensecoz_: brazilian site, and i think so it's not a good idea. http://pplware.sapo.pt/linux/experimente-o-unity-no-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/14:39
c0nsensecoz_: what do you think?14:41
coz_c0nsense,   wont open here14:41
c0nsensebrb.14:42
c0nsense;/14:44
hifiwhat is Gir?15:31
IdleOne!info gir1.215:35
ubottuPackage gir1.2 does not exist in natty15:35
IdleOne!search gir15:35
ubottuFound: girls-#ubuntuforums, girls, hotornot, bunnies*, bigiron, girl, raptors15:35
IdleOneoops15:35
hifilol15:35
IdleOne!find gir15:35
ubottuFound: gir1.0-atk-1.0, gir1.0-clutter-1.0, gir1.0-clutter-gtk-0.10, gir1.0-dbusmenu-glib-0.2, gir1.0-dbusmenu-gtk-0.2, gir1.0-dbusmenu-gtk3-0.2, gir1.0-freedesktop, gir1.0-gconf-2.0, gir1.0-gdata-0.0, gir1.0-gdkpixbuf-2.0 (and 70 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gir&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all15:35
hifiso in a nutshell it doesn't concern me when upgrading ;)15:36
hifithanks15:36
coz_hey guys.. noticed in classic gnome that when creating a new panel ,,,there is no click hold an drag to new position15:42
jMCgCould it be that every other upgrade breaks Unity?16:14
IdleOneyes16:16
charlie-tcaheh, It's a good alpha ...16:16
jMCgYes.. I'm back in the console.16:16
jMCgHaven't had this much fun since I tried Rawhide.16:16
charlie-tcaYeah, maverick was too easy for testing16:17
twagerAnyone tried todays partial upgrade ?16:26
wzssyqatwager: indicator-sound are broken , not compliant with rhythmbox16:27
jMCgUnity is broken.16:28
twagerThanks...Think I will see what tomorrow brings.16:31
jMCgI should make it a habit to check in here, before attempting to run an upgrade.16:38
jMCgI'm wondering how I can make use of both monitors in a Console..16:44
jMCgAlso.. I need UTF-8 fonts.16:44
jMCg*** /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home will be checked for errors at next reboot ***16:45
jMCgWhy do I get this every time I logon, reboot, fsck /home -- what's wrong here?16:45
BrianTheLionhey all! Anybody want to field an ALSA/PulseAudio problem?16:47
yofeljMCg: do you have some forcefsck file lying around?16:48
BrianTheLionI just installed 11.04 on my Acer Aspire One (ZG5) and am still having a problem with the mic. The problem has been described in a number of forum posts, but no one seems to have a clear solution.16:50
BrianTheLionso it's kinda interesting16:50
jMCgyofel: hope.16:51
yofeljMCg: if not, check Filesystem state, (maximum) mount count, last checked, check interval and next check after in the output from 'tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home' (assuming you're using ext)16:51
BrianTheLionSymptoms are this: Microphone works under the Sound Recorder but not under other applications (Skype, Google Talk, etc)16:51
jMCgyofel: yes, ext4... Considering to move to btrfs.16:52
yofeljMCg: you can pastebin the output if you want, should look roughly like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544933/16:53
BrianTheLionchanging the "snd-hda-intel model=" options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf doesn't solve anything16:53
BrianTheLionsomebody found a weird hack, though, where you can get it working TEMPORARILY if you install pavucontrol and set the left and right channels for the mic to different input levels. Why there are two channels for a mono mic, I don't know.16:54
BrianTheLionI've googled like mad, installed the latest ALSA builds, etc, etc. Nothing.16:55
jMCgyofel: hah.. I have Maximum mount count: -116:56
yofelhow did that happen o.O?16:56
yofelthat's usually ~3016:57
BrianTheLionanybody have a clue?16:57
yofeljMCg: sudo tune2fs -c 30 /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home16:59
jMCgyofel: just did that.16:59
BrianTheLionHere is my forum post if anybody thinks of anything: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164709117:03
BrianTheLionthe problem would seem to have something to do with the interaction between ALSA and PulseAudio for this particular chipset17:04
BrianTheLionwhich is RealTek ALC268, btw17:05
MTecknologyhmm... I tried upgrading my laptop, but there's 6 broken packages17:53
histoanyone else getting spammed from pianoxxxx17:53
MTecknologypython-gnome2  lib32asound2  libpython2.6  python2.7-minimal  python-gtk2  hplip  python-gconf  python-glade217:53
MTecknologyI guess I knew python was undergoing a crap ton of changes, i just didn't expect to see those broken for the upgrade17:55
IdleOnepython should be fixed now17:55
MTecknologyIdleOne: http://dpaste.com/287780/17:58
IdleOnehmm18:01
MTecknologyIdleOne: kinda ugly, huh?18:04
IdleOneMTecknology: a little18:04
IdleOnewhat does dist-upgrade say?18:04
MTecknologyhttp://dpaste.com/287781/18:05
MTecknologymaybe I'll just do a fresh install of a daily build18:05
IdleOnewell python2.7 is def messed up for you18:06
IdleOnehehe18:06
IdleOneMTecknology: give it a shot. I assume @zombie is not a production machine18:06
MTecknologyIdleOne: it's my laptop that i recovered from the dead; it has zip ties, shrink tubing, and other stuff inside it now :P18:08
IdleOnelol18:08
MTecknologyI separated /opt and /home, everything else is pretty normal - just package selection18:08
MTecknologyI can't really even move it somewhere. The power connection to the motherboard broke- so it's permanently on power. which is fine, the battery lasts about 5-10min18:11
MTecknologyI mostly use this one for building packages. I have a ruptured disk so I turn it on, lay down, ssh in from my new laptop and then use it18:12
DaekdroomZombies. They just can't do stuff like a normal one.18:12
MTecknologyit's amazing how much pain can come from a little tiny part of your body18:14
MTecknologyIdleOne: ya.. so.. network config doesn't work in the daily/current build18:24
IdleOneI been doing aptitude update && aptitude upgrade twice a day, with reckless abandon I might add. haven't had many issues18:26
MTecknologymy other laptop has been trucking along just perfect - except for the python upgrade18:27
MTecknologyI guess I'll pop this back over to 10.1018:28
MTecknologyI'll try one more thing before I give up18:31
MTecknologyThis is making me realize how much I love SSD18:41
DasEiwhats the latest natty kernel ?18:59
MTecknologyIdleOne: yay.. it was installing fine but the network config didn't work - so now during install it's hanging on18:59
MTecknologyUpdating the list of avaiable packages...18:59
IdleOneDasEi: 2.6.37-919:00
DasEiIdleOne: thanks19:00
DasEiIdleOne: somehow I can't get the headers for hit, though backports-repo works19:01
DasEiit*19:01
DasEiall good, thx again19:15
jMCgI found a way to ``repair'' Unity: I created a lauchner for a console on my desktop, in which I then launched compiz19:21
rigvedjMCg: that's something similar to compiz --replace, right?19:34
MTecknologygreat... I can't even get ubuntu 10.10 to install on this thing19:34
jMCgrigved: only that comipiz isn't running, for some a strange reason.19:34
MTecknologycome on... why the heck will this not install19:37
andregondimHi, I need some help, I made a fresh alpha 1 install and after upgrade and reboot only show me the wallpaper19:39
charlie-tcaandregondim: choose classic desktop session at login, then run updates19:44
andregondimlet me try19:44
charlie-tcaIf you have nvidia video, you will need to install the hardware drivers to see the unity desktop19:45
holsteini have to say, im not dis-liking unity at all19:45
holsteini was concerned about the change being too drastic19:46
holsteinlooks very nice guys :)19:46
andregondimI have a intel video card19:46
MTecknologyeven with the network cable and a network connection, it still hangs at Updating the list of avaiable packages...20:03
coz_are they serious with th is logo ?  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unity_Logo.svg20:32
duffydackanyone else having trouble making a persistent usb stick actually use the persistence part?20:52
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nit-witduffydack, what are you using to load the thumb21:03
duffydackusb-creator in maverick.  also tried lucid21:03
duffydacktried amd64 iso and 32bit iso.21:04
nit-witduffydack, so you can't get the persistence?21:04
duffydack2gig usb stick, maximum persistence..its just ignoring it21:04
duffydackI get the file there (casper-rw) but the live boot ignores it21:04
duffydacktried using alpha1 of natty and daily.21:05
duffydackalmost tempted to use that windows app by pendrivelinux, it has persistence options.21:06
nit-witduffydack, you can make a 2 partitioned set up the first a fat32 for the ISO big enough for the csaper-rw to be added. you make the 2nd partition a ext2 name it casper-rw, then remove the csaper from the first. this is used to get a lrger then the 4 gig limit generally but works. I suspect the problem is else where though21:07
nit-witduffydack, do you use the slider to size the persistence, and is it saving anything at all changes21:08
duffydackso, make partition1 as fat32 big enough to hold the live environment, and make partition2 as ext2 and label it casper-rw21:09
duffydackim sliding it all the way across, it makes it correctly..  It tells me its making ext2 in persistence, and there is a casper file there...21:09
nit-witduffydack, yes but is the set up you have now saving any changes upon reboot?21:09
duffydackno, thats what im saying...its making it as it should ( I think, given the progress info while making it and the existence of the file) its just ignoring it while using it in live21:10
duffydackmade it maybe 10 times now21:11
nit-witduffydack, so lets say you change the theme and reboot does it save that new theme21:11
nit-witduffydack, 2 gigs is not really good as any download ISO will have a ton of updates/upgrades21:12
duffydackI have changed font sizes, removed stuff from launcher, deleted some folders, adjusted mouse and keyboard options, startup options and no...it doesnt21:12
duffydack1.1gig persistence is max...that should be enough?21:13
duffydackif I update daily21:13
nit-witduffydack, not for maverick or Lucid or Natty to many updates and kernels you don't want to do any kernel updates. The Iso is being read first21:14
duffydackI have thought about (when it actually works) making tmpfs for /var/cache/apt/archives to speed up updating and not run out of space in case...I have 4gig mem21:14
duffydackso are you saying its not working because its not enough space?21:15
nit-witduffydack, if the casper-rw was working you can't empty it, it just fills up, you would be better with a 8 gig thumb and a full install21:15
duffydackI have a 32gig stick with grub2/isos on 4gig partition, I could use that.21:16
duffydackthat stick is one of my backup sticks tho...21:16
nit-witduffydack, just be sure the grub loader is pointed at the thumb when you install otherwise it may default to the mbr of the computer21:17
duffydackwell, even with 2gig and full persistence, it should work.21:17
duffydackI have installed to stick before but I dont like how much slower it is21:17
duffydackslow already, dont wanna make it any slower..well I thought it was anyway..21:17
nit-witduffydack, 2 gigs is a install load with unetbotin or the disc creator in Ubuntu, to many updates21:18
duffydackI think I will make a maverick live+persistence, just to check.21:18
nit-witduffydack, the pendrive multi usb is pretty cool I have a 16 gig with a bunch of bootable ISO's and one persistance If I wanted it21:19
duffydackactually I'll use this 4gig iso boot partition on the 32gig and make that live+persistence...if that dont work, then....21:20
nit-witduffydack, is the partition at the front of the thumb21:20
duffydackyes21:20
nit-witduffydack, that only seems to be the key at times21:21
duffydackonly 2...that fat32 and rest of 32gig is encrypted for my rsync job21:21
nit-witduffydack, good luck brb21:21
nit-witback21:27
nit-witduffydack, what up22:09
duffydacknot much, not tried it yet22:10
nit-witduffydack, just checking22:13
coz_mm classic gnome  there are no   File Edit View mentus on apps22:20
coz_anyone having issues with File Edit View menus not showing in classic gnome?22:46
coz_out of curiosity,,, I notice that the close  min max button are now on the upper panel.. and no window decos...is this expected?23:17
charlie-tcaI think it is. does moving the mouse around the top of the window or the panel make a menu show up?23:19
coz_charlie-tca,  mousing over the panel shows the  File  Edit view  menus yes23:19
charlie-tcaThen it is expectede23:20
coz_charlie-tca,  unfortunaltely  in classic gnome   there are not  File  Edit View menus23:20
charlie-tcaMaybe a bad side effect?23:20
coz_perhaps  :)23:20
charlie-tcaPython is working today!23:21
coz_this is good...yes?23:21
coz_i dont think I can get used to no window decorations23:21
charlie-tcaWell, it looks to have screwed my desktop up bad, and this Xubuntu23:21
charlie-tcaXubuntu reboot, xfwm4 does not restart; no window title bars, everything piles on one workspace, and can't see anything but the window on top.23:29
charlie-tca:-)23:29
Volkodavcharlie-tca: I am OK on my xfce though23:46
Volkodavalmost everything works except awn half crippled:)23:46
charlie-tcaDid you update today?23:47
Volkodavyes - will all new stuff23:52
Volkodavkernel included23:52
Volkodavand rebooted23:52
Volkodavwith*23:52
charlie-tcasecond update did it23:53
Volkodavhmm like very recent ?23:54
charlie-tcayes23:54
VolkodavI only see compiz in updates for last 2 hours I checked23:54
Volkodavyou had compiz too or more ?23:55
charlie-tcaMaybe it's just me23:55
charlie-tcaNo, no compiz23:55
charlie-tcabut I have test themes and icons and stuff, too23:55

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