[09:21] <thorwil> good morning
[12:14] <stjohnmedrano> advance merry christmas everyone
[12:28] <thorwil> interesting. with ubuntu/ambiance, there's not only a shadow below the top panel, but also on the left screen edge. and the last 3 pixel height of that shadow are subtly different
[14:50] <coz_> are submissions to have CC  or gpl licenses?
[19:47] <woutervddn> hi, thorwil..
[19:47] <thorwil> hi woutervddn
[19:47] <woutervddn> I've got a question for you :p
[19:48] <woutervddn> for ubuntu-be we are planning to get ourself some tshirts..
[19:48] <woutervddn> but we were still stuck about how to distribute them..
[19:48] <thorwil> :p is a do not answer modifier ;p
[19:48] <woutervddn> so I went to google and pressed in: ubuntu LoCo tshirt..
[19:49] <woutervddn> and guess 2 times who's block I found as third link..
[19:49] <woutervddn> anyways.. I was wondering how you guys do it..
[19:50] <thorwil> woutervddn: you would have to ask kmrs75 in the chicago loco channel
[19:50] <thorwil> woutervddn: for all i know, that design has never been printed ...
[19:51] <woutervddn> ow.. :p sorry then.. I assumed you did print them.. the shirts look nice so :p
[19:52] <woutervddn> we're just gonna stick with a huge circle of friends and the 'ubuntu-be' text.. now we just need to agree about what comes where on te shirt xD
[19:52] <woutervddn> it's kind of a second attempt.. :)
[19:52] <thorwil> woutervddn: do you talk to people in real life with your tongue hanging out, too? :)
[19:54] <thorwil> woutervddn: anyway, obviously you should order a single batch and take care of distribution yourself. ideally directly from hand to hand
[19:55] <woutervddn> yeah.. we're thinking about postal sending to.. but then it starts.. paypall, google checkout, giro, all of them, only two of those, only one..
[19:56] <woutervddn> do you happen to know if you sent them buy postal service?
[19:56] <thorwil> paypal is actually quite expensive, greedy bastards they are, rot in hell they should
[19:57] <zniavre> +1
[19:57] <thorwil> woutervddn: not sure what your are asking there
[19:58] <woutervddn> gc asks about the same for transactions..
[19:58] <thorwil> avoid both, if you can
[19:59] <woutervddn> yeah.. you are the second one that tells us that :p
[19:59] <woutervddn> so I guess we'll just drop that :p
[19:59] <woutervddn> thx anyways.. :)
[20:00] <thorwil> woutervddn: if you go with a local shop, or even one in europe you should have the option of direct bank transfer (i don't know the right terms in english)
[20:01] <thorwil> that will be safer and cheaper
[20:01] <woutervddn> true..
[20:02] <woutervddn> problem is it's hell to check the bank account every day.. I think I'm going to suggest a second bank account that sends a conformation message every time a payment is recieved..
[20:02] <thorwil> i don't see why you would  check the bank account every day
[20:03] <woutervddn> not every day.. but it'll go like this: 1 shirt ordered by...
[20:04] <woutervddn> reply from that person: I've transfered the money
[20:04] <woutervddn> I: check.. nothing, tomorrow.. nothing, day after tomorrow.. finally arrived..
[20:04] <thorwil> woutervddn: set a deadline. or even let one person collect cash during a meeting, if possible
[20:05] <woutervddn> yeah.. I suppose that's another way to go..
[20:39] <coz_> vish,   whose idea was it to replace the compiz/unity icon in ccsm?