[02:41] <sagaci> I just edited grub to go to a text environment first, works great
[02:43] <head_victim> sagaci: glad to see you got it to where you needed it
[02:43] <head_victim> I cheat and use start up manager (a gui for grub conf)
[02:43] <sagaci> i use that just to change the grub resolution
[02:44]  * nisshh prefers to get down and dirty in the config files
[02:44] <nisshh> sagaci, well done :)
[02:44] <sagaci> all I had to do was edit /etc/default/grub and append text to GRUB CMD something
[02:44] <sagaci> and voila
[02:44] <head_victim> I was just getting to know grub and then they went to grub2 and I had to start over
[02:44] <nisshh> yeah
[02:44] <sagaci> boots fast and gnome is only a startx away
[02:45] <sagaci> head_victim: me too
[02:45] <sagaci> don't like the grub2 configuration things
[02:45] <nisshh> i actually rather like the way you configure grub2
[02:45] <nisshh> it keeps it all seperate and simple to find
[02:45] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah that's something I'll learn when I need to. I prefer to have the grub screen show for 5 sec every bood (I only reboot every 6 months or so except for power fails)
[02:46] <nisshh> i think many people just got annoyed because it was all different
[02:46] <sagaci> well i use it also to boot into windows automagically on some systems (aka older relatives)
[02:47] <sagaci> but I liked with grub that you could easily rename entries
[02:47] <sagaci> so if you wanted to, you could call your ubuntu entry "OMG cool operating system" if you wanted to
[02:47] <sagaci> with kernel 2.6.32 etc
[02:48] <head_victim> I'm sure you can with start up manager as well
[02:49] <sagaci> not really, it only does a couple of things
[02:49] <nisshh> im fairly sure thats possible with grub2 still
[02:49] <head_victim> sagaci: you're right, my bad
[02:49] <nisshh> in the list of entries each one can be given a name
[02:49] <head_victim> But yeah you should still be able to change it on the cli
[02:49] <head_victim> Pretty sad if you can theme it but not change the entries
[02:49] <sagaci> probably, that's just another thing to learn and tweak
[02:50] <sagaci> another thing to add to my post install list
[02:50] <nisshh> hehe, yeah
[02:50] <head_victim> Heh I'm working throuhg a very thick book for my server so I can do all the stuff I need to without forgetting stuff and dodgying it up.
[02:50] <head_victim> To date my theory has been "lets just make it do what I want now" rather than "lets find the best way to do it".
[02:51] <nisshh> something i started doing recently was to use a VCS to keep my config files between fresh installs its really handy
[02:51] <nisshh> head_victim, lol
[02:51] <head_victim> So now I'm taking my time and getting stuff done "right"
[02:52] <head_victim> Lets just hope my hdd doesn't fail between now and then when I get it on the raid.
[02:52] <nisshh> hehe
[07:03] <nisshh> head_victim, looks like my local computer store are dropping their prices again, the Antec 600 is down from $190 to $106 :)
[07:03] <nisshh> plus a whole heap of new stuff is in and other stuff has dropped in price too
[07:03] <head_victim> Nice work, now you just have to get the cash ;)
[07:03] <nisshh> yeah lol :)
[07:04] <nisshh> easier said than done :)
[07:04] <head_victim> Yeah like I said if it's more than a month away looking at prices is almost a waste of time.
[07:04] <nisshh> although i do have an income now, so im getting there
[07:04] <head_victim> I'm trying to throw together a P4 3.0 HT PC for the wife for her sewing room.
[07:04] <nisshh> head_victim, oh yeah, im just curious to see where stuff is at, what new stuff there is, etc :)
[07:05] <nisshh> oh yeah
[07:05] <head_victim> Hah I gave up on that long ago, kept feeling like I was misisng out on so much stuff when realistically my quad core q6600 will do my needs for some years to come.
[07:06] <nisshh> yeah
[07:06] <head_victim> I'd definitely never get anything but a quad core again though, so much handier for VM machines.
[07:06] <nisshh> yeah
[07:07] <nisshh> i will get a quad if i can i think, its well worth it
[07:07] <head_victim> I'd seriously consider a previous generation quad over a current dual but yeah, I'm not likely buying a pc anytime soon.
[07:07] <nisshh> yeah
[20:43] <chesty> what's the ubuntu/gnome way of integrating with gmail, specifically new mail notification
[21:19]  * iflema evolution (ALWAYS) on/in the taskbar... thunderbird and one of the systray addons/plugins works well....
[21:21] <chesty> evolution and thunderbird are out, I want to use the web interface to gmail
[21:28] <iflema> chesty: gm-notify ??
[21:32] <iflema> thats in Universe ^^
[21:34] <chesty> yeah, i did a apt-cache search gmail, and that came up, and I installed it. but there are 10 other packages and I don't want to have to install each one to test it out
[21:35] <chesty> for something that claims to be highly ubuntu integrated, being in universe is telling
[21:46]  * iflema drops penutbutter toast facedown :(