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micahgchrisccoulson: well, maybe they can be collapsed for natty + 1 and combined in an MU00:00
chrisccoulsonMU?00:00
micahgMajor Update (Mozilla term :))00:01
chrisccoulsonoh, right ;)00:01
chrisccoulsoni'm hoping by then that the extension will have gone away entirely, and it will be part of mozilla core ;)00:01
chrisccoulsonthat's the goal anyway00:01
micahgeven better :)00:01
chrisccoulsonthe extension is just a means of developing and testing it really00:01
robert_ancelldoes anyone know where the list of packages that make up the langpacks is?00:02
chrisccoulsonhmmm, not sure about that00:03
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, make[4]: *** No rule to make target `emapthy-indicator.o', needed by `empathy-chat'.  Stop. what does that all mean?00:52
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, it means empathy-chat (an application?) needs empathy-indicator.o (built from empathy-indicator.c) to build.  But it doesn't know how to build it00:53
bcurtiswxremembert i added the empathy_chat_SOURCES section, maybe it has something to do with that00:54
robert_ancellcan you paste the Makefile.am?00:54
bcurtiswxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/544682/00:54
bcurtiswxoh, i can get the whole makefile, but thats i think the questionable place00:55
bcurtiswxlemme know if you still want the whole thing00:55
bcurtiswxyou had me add the empathy_chat_SOURCES section00:55
bcurtiswxim thinking maybe i needed an else in there?00:56
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, it looks like empathy-indicator.c is not there for some reason (not in the patch?)00:56
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, it makes a empathy-2.91.3/src/empathy-indicator-manager.c00:58
bcurtiswxah it does make that one00:58
bcurtiswxempathy-indicator.c00:59
bcurtiswx20_libindicate.patch01:00
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/544685/ end of the buildlog01:04
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, Check /home/bcurtis/Packages/empathy/build-area/empathy-2.91.3/src/empathy-indicator.c exists01:05
bcurtiswxit exists01:06
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, ^^01:06
robert_ancellhmm, that's a bit weird01:06
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, have you got a branch I can build from?01:07
bcurtiswxyeah, lemme push somewhere01:08
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.301:12
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, I just have to update my VM, will take a few minutes01:16
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, OMG i can't wait that long ;)  j/k I appreciate your help01:17
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, oh, it's a typo02:04
robert_ancellemapthy02:05
bcurtiswxLOL02:05
bcurtiswxthat makes me feel great :(02:05
robert_ancelltook me ages to spot too :)02:06
robert_ancellRAOF, hey, did you see that gnome-session merge comment?02:06
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, building again <crosses fingers>02:06
RAOFrobert_ancell: No, I didn't - when was it?02:06
robert_ancellRAOF, I just reviewed your merge.  a) I don't know enough to tell what it does b) Is this important?02:07
robert_ancellhttps://code.launchpad.net/~raof/gnome-session/fix-bug-623700/+merge/3360502:07
RAOFAh, yeah.  Yesterday.02:07
RAOFThe comment upstream is not from an upstream developer; that's from someone who was trying to fix the Xserver bug.02:08
RAOFThe gnome-session code is wrong according to the only specification of XSYNC I've been able to find.02:09
RAOF(Although not very importantly wrong - it requires millisecond timing to trigger the race)02:09
robert_ancellSo, it's rare, but worth committing?  Or should be wait for upstream to accept it?02:10
robert_ancell(and should it be applied to maverick or natty?)02:10
RAOFIt's certainly too rare to bother for Maverick.02:10
RAOFIf we don't want a delta we could probably wait for upstream to accept it.02:11
RAOFAlthough it's clear that no one has actually looked at that bug :)02:11
robert_ancellIt's probably more likely no-one understands the bug :)02:12
RAOFIt's really pretty simple.02:14
RAOFThe low→high event triggers when the counter goes from < to >= the threshold, and the high→low event triggers when the counter goes from > to <= the threshold.02:16
RAOFSo if you have the same threshold for both triggers, if you get an event *exactly* on the threshold, you'll trigger the low→high one but not the high→low one.02:17
RAOFNow that I say that, I think it's reasonable to apply the patch to Natty; if a user actually hits that bug then their session will be permanently marked as idle until they let it idle for longer than the idle threshold.02:18
robert_ancellhow many x events per second do you get?02:20
RAOFThe practical upshot of which would be an uninterruptible screensaver for 10 minutes, I think.02:20
robert_ancellcould you make a test that generates X events flat out and stops the screensaver from working?02:20
RAOFYou'd need to make a test that generates an X event at exactly 60,000 msec idle time (for a 10 min screensaver timeout).02:21
RAOFOn modern computers it's possible to wake up X multiple times in a msec as long as the load's not too high.02:22
robert_ancellso, if I set the idle time to 1s, then start generating events flat out after 1s or so, there would be a chance to trigger this?02:22
RAOFIt doesn't matter if you generate events flat out or not; what needs to happen is that X needs to wake up to process an input event exactly on the idle time threshold (with resolution of ms).02:24
RAOFie: for an idle time of 1s you need no input events for 999ms, then an input event at 1,000ms.02:25
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RAOF(And for X to not be currently blocked processing events; it needs to be sufficiently idle to select that event in the 1,000th ms)02:25
robert_ancelland the result is your session is marked as idle from then onwards?02:27
RAOFRight.02:27
RAOFThe +ve transition triggers, because idle time went from < 1,000ms to >= 1,000ms.  The -ve transition didn't trigger, because the idle time didn't go from > 1,000ms to <= 1,000 ms.02:28
RAOFSo gnome-session picked up a “session is idle” event, but hasn't got a “no longer idle” trigger.02:28
RAOFIf you then left your session idle for > 1,000ms and then moved the mouse, the -ve event would fire and gnome-session would notice your session is no longer idle.02:29
RAOFDoes that make sense?02:31
robert_ancellyeah, I think so02:34
RAOFOk.  I'll go have some lunch then :)02:37
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/544717/02:42
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, some sort of linking problem02:43
* robert_ancell also out for lunch02:45
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, OK.  thanks for your help.  I have to go to bed soon.  Do you know how I can search for where for problem is, maybe actually do one of these on my own ?02:45
bcurtiswxsome online references ?02:45
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, check for where those functions are defined, and if they're in another lib make sure thats in the LDADD02:48
robert_ancellit's a bit black magic at times02:48
bcurtiswxlots of greps and more greps with a side of greps 'eh02:48
bcurtiswxenjoy your lunch, thanks again02:48
bcurtiswxso you guys are from Australia/New Sealand ?02:59
bcurtiswxZealand even :P02:59
RAOF.au03:00
bcurtiswxalways wanted to go there... maybe one of these days.  I work with two aussies.  Bob Meyer, Phil Richards are their names03:02
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, they're all functions in the libindicate patch.  Where is the LDADD ?03:11
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, i see it's added to the makefile.am03:17
robert_ancellI think you need empathy-event-manager.[ch] also added03:17
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, if you don't mind me picking your brain.. how'd you come to that conclusion ?03:20
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, because it was using a function in empathy-event-manager.c, but it wasn't in the SOURCES list.  Thus it compiled because the header files were there, but when it came to linking the objects together it didn't link empathy-event-manager.o03:23
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, hmm, i still don't see how you saw the function in empathy-event-manager.c03:28
robert_ancellgrep03:28
bcurtiswxi see that in empathy-indicator-manager.c03:30
bcurtiswxempathy-indicator-manager.o: In function `indicate_login_cb':03:32
bcurtiswx/home/bcurtis/Packages/empathy/build-area/empathy-2.91.3/src/empathy-indicator-manager.c:260: undefined reference to `empathy_event_manager_get_events' i verified its in that file03:32
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, ^^ i guess if i see the above error, you're saying grep that function, find out what file its in and make sure it's linked ?03:35
robert_ancellyup03:36
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, so from above, how is that empathy-event-manager.[ch]?03:37
robert_ancellempathy_event_manager_get_events is defined in empathy-event-manager.c03:38
robert_ancelland it's referenced from empathy-indicator-manager.c03:38
bcurtiswxOK maybe i added it to the wrong place, where was i adding those to.. the 20_libindicate.patch03:40
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, ^^03:41
robert_ancellyou added empathy-indicator-manager.c, because empathy-indicator.c required it.  You also need to add empathy-event-manager.c, as the compilation shows empathy-indicator-manager.c requires it03:42
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, OK.  next question.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/544729/03:44
bcurtiswxthis should be my last question  :)03:44
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, did you add it twice?03:45
bcurtiswxyes, but i thought i was supposed to03:45
robert_ancellno, you should have empathy-indicator.[ch], empathy-indicator-manager.[ch] and empathy-event-manager.[ch]03:45
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/544730/03:46
bcurtiswxthat?03:46
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, you don't need empathy-event-manager.[ch] in empathy_handwritten_sources, as it's already in the list (defined further up)03:47
robert_ancellbut you do need it in empathy_chat_SOURCES as it's not in that list03:47
bcurtiswxhandwritten means "we" made it03:47
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, what is EXTRA_DIST then03:48
robert_ancellwell, they're just lists and they shouldn't have duplicates03:48
robert_ancellEXTRA_DIST means "add these files into the tarball when you make a release".  It's EXTRA because a bunch of file are automaticall added (e.g. *_SOURCES)03:49
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, do get rid of it in extra_dists too03:49
bcurtiswxso* ?03:49
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, no, you don't need to touch EXTRA_DIST03:49
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, OK :) thx03:49
robert_ancellthe EXTRA_DIST stuff there looks wrong, but it doesn't matter as we're not making a tarbacll03:50
robert_ancelltarball03:50
robert_ancellI hate autotools btw :)03:50
bcurtiswxi wouldn't know at this point about that.  i appreciate your time03:51
robert_ancellautotools is the build system03:51
robert_ancelli.e. all the Makefile.am stuff03:51
bcurtiswxOK03:51
bcurtiswxrobert_ancell, alright.  I think I got enough to work from here.  Have a happy holidays :) good night03:56
robert_ancellbcurtiswx, thanks for all your work!03:56
bcurtiswxThanks a TON!03:56
bcurtiswxfor your wisdom/help03:56
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seb128hey09:02
mvohey seb12809:03
seb128hey mvo09:09
seb128how are you?09:09
mvoseb128: good, all white around me when I look out of my window09:11
seb128mvo, seems here09:12
seb128though I can't open the shutter09:13
seb128it's stucked due to snow and ice09:13
seb128so I can't really look outside from my desk ;-)09:13
mvohaha09:13
seb128mvo, I will have a update-notifier hack for you if you want09:19
seb128mvo, it makes it report only user bugs if there is no notification area container09:19
seb128it's a 2 liners09:19
seb128so we can get unity crashes reported at least09:19
seb128chrisccoulson, hey09:21
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, how are you?09:23
seb128I'm fine thanks09:23
seb128under the snow09:23
seb128how are you?09:23
mvoseb128: sounds good, thanks09:24
Zdraseb128, we backported gtk3 package from natty to maverick in our PPA, and I get that build error: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60741661/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.gtk%2B3.0_2.91.6-0ubuntu1~ppa10.10%2B1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz09:24
chrisccoulsoni'm not too bad thanks. you have snow?09:24
Zdrasee the message at the end09:24
Zdraseb128, any idea why we get that and it works on natty?09:24
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah, lot of it09:26
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i think a lot of people here will see snow today, but it always misses where i live (or we only ever get a light dusting of snow)09:27
chrisccoulsoni want some proper snow so i can go and build a snowman :)09:27
seb128Zdra, seems a compiler difference09:29
seb128still "/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-2.91.6/modules/input/gtkimcontextxim.c:1760: warning: implicit declaration of function 'gtk_widget_get_style'" in natty09:29
seb128so ti's a GTK upstream bug09:29
seb128it's just that the natty builder doesn't stop on it09:29
seb128they stop the build usually because those lead to crash issues on 64 bits arch09:29
Zdraseb128, hm... I suspect natty package to be horribly broken then09:31
Zdraseb128, becausae that function does not exist09:31
Zdraseb128, if you check build log above, you'll see09:31
Zdrabuild/buildd/gtk+3.0-2.91.6/modules/input/gtkimcontextxim.c:1760: warning: implicit declaration of function 'gtk_widget_get_style'09:31
ZdraFunction `gtk_widget_get_style' implicitly converted to pointer at /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-2.91.6/modules/input/gtkimcontextxim.c:176009:31
seb128Zdra, those warning are mostly in tests though09:31
seb128well upstream issue in any case09:32
Zdraright09:32
Zdraok09:32
chrisccoulsonseb128 - oh, it's just started snowing here ;)09:32
seb128chrisccoulson, you can still see outside at least :p09:32
chrisccoulsonwe're meant to be going to visit family in essex tomorrow, but the weather forecast is pretty bad09:33
seb128Zdra, gtk_widget_get_style is in gtkwidget.c09:33
chrisccoulsoni think we might skip that, i don't particularly want to be driving over 100 miles in the snow ;)09:33
seb128seems just be an include issue09:33
seb128chrisccoulson, yeah, driving in snow is no fun09:34
Zdraseb128, not if you build with GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED09:34
chrisccoulsonnjpatel, thanks for merging my unity patch :)09:35
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seb128mvo, you have weird coding style :p10:22
seb128that update-notifier code is indented using 3 spaces10:23
mvoseb128: heh :) its *old*10:23
seb128lol10:24
seb128like you? ;-)10:24
* seb128 runs10:24
seb128sorry ;-)10:24
mvoseb128: *pfff*10:33
seb128mvo, yeah, I need holidays :p10:34
mvome too!10:35
* mvo hugs seb128 and makes some more tea10:35
* seb128 hugs mvo10:35
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chrisccoulsonwhoop: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619899 :)11:46
ubot2Mozilla bug 619899 in Widget: Gtk "Support the panel based menubar in Unity" [Enhancement,New]11:46
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seb128mvo, hey13:44
nessitahello everyone13:49
mvohey seb12813:52
seb128hey nessita13:53
mvohey nessita13:54
nessitaseb128: hey! would you be able to sponsor my uploads?13:54
mvoseb128: thanks for your MP13:54
nessitahey mvo, how are you?13:54
mvogood, thanks :) how are you?13:54
nessitamvo: pretty good, suffering some hot weather but happy13:55
mvohehehe, its -5°C here and snowing like crazy13:56
nessitahehe13:56
seb128nessita, sure can but a bit later, sorry but unity is borked in natty and I need to deal with that first13:57
seb128mvo, I wanted to ping you about that, seems you already noticed ;-)13:57
seb128mvo, can we get an upload with it maybe today?13:57
nessitaseb128: sure, thanks!13:57
seb128njpatel,14:02
seb128#1  0x0014c9c4 in g_source_unref_internal (source=0x9b8eb40, context=0x8000,14:02
seb128    have_lock=0) at /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.27.4/glib/gmain.c:166714:02
seb128#2  0x00c19760 in Glib::Source::unreference (this=0x9c11cd0) at main.cc:76514:02
seb128#3  0x0807022e in PrivateScreen::~PrivateScreen() ()14:02
seb128#4  0x080704d2 in PrivateScreen::~PrivateScreen() ()14:02
seb128#5  0x0806f0a8 in CompScreen::~CompScreen() ()14:02
seb128njpatel, that's the compiz crash in unity14:02
njpateloh wow14:02
njpatelwill probably need same for that but I can try and take a look14:02
seb128njpatel, ok, deal with other things you have to do and roll the new tarball14:02
kenvandinehey seb128, could you cover the release meeting?  my kids are on a 2 hour delay for school for weather, and i will have to drive them14:02
seb128then we can talk about the crash14:02
seb128kenvandine, today is shapping to be crazy anyway so why not14:03
kenvandinehehe14:03
seb128;-)14:03
kenvandinesorry... thx14:03
dpmhi all, on the next OO.o upload, could someone please take care of bug 644164 and disable translation template generation? We're not using the translations for now, and they are cluttering the translations imports queue and delaying the imports of other translations. If someone could have a look at it, that'd be awesome, thanks!14:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 644164 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Please disable translations template generation in OO.o (affects: 1) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64416414:03
seb128kenvandine, no worry I'm going to be around late anyway14:03
kenvandinehad some snow yesterday14:03
seb128kenvandine, I've still the unity update to work on and then to figure why compiz is crashing14:03
kenvandinewhich isn't that common here, and everything shuts down14:03
seb128we have some as well there14:04
seb128some 20 cm at least14:04
kenvandinewow14:04
seb128;-)14:05
kenvandinewe had like half an inch14:05
seb128we are used to it there, they are quite efficient to salt and clean the roads14:05
kenvandinewimps here... nobody can drive in it and the state isn't well equipped to treat the roads, etc14:05
seb128you should keep the kids at home ;-)14:05
Amaranthgood morning14:06
seb128but good luck driving if you drive anyway ;-)14:06
seb128hey Amaranth14:06
kenvandinelast day of school before xmas... get them out of the house!14:06
seb128hehe14:06
kenvandinethe roads are fine14:06
kenvandinethe school is just too conservative14:06
seb128ok14:06
seb128don't worry about the meeting14:06
seb128I was planning to be around anyway14:06
kenvandinethx14:06
seb128so I can as well be the official representative14:07
kenvandinepitti did the wiki page and all14:07
Amaranthkenvandine: wow, kids here go monday and tuesday next week too14:07
seb128perfect14:07
cyphermoxdpm, seb128, I can look at the translation template generation for oo.o14:30
seb128?14:31
seb128was there a question about that?14:31
cyphermoxyeah, dpm mentioned bug 64416414:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 644164 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Please disable translations template generation in OO.o (affects: 1) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64416414:31
seb128if you want to you are welcome14:31
seb128not sure we want to do an upload only for that though14:32
cyphermoxno, you're right14:32
cyphermoxbut just making sure it's done already for next time there is an upload14:32
cyphermoxseb128, fyi, I'm suspecting there's an issue in libchamplain with whatever it uses to display maps, because I can see here they get downloaded when I run emerillon, but never drawn14:33
seb128cyphermox, ok, don't bother much with that, if it builds upload, someone can debug that issue later on14:36
cyphermoxgreat14:36
seb128new glade 3.7.2 if someone wants to do the update14:36
cyphermoxafaict, it builds and works fine, and it's not like it wasn't already broken in the same way14:36
cyphermoxseb128, I'll get the merge request ready for emerillon and test it builds fine on debian exp and natty, then I can tackle glade.14:37
seb128cyphermox, thanks14:38
cyphermoxor actually, the other way around sounds better ;)14:38
rickspencer3cyphermox, fwiw, the nm-indicator has been working perfectly for me14:39
seb128hey rickspencer314:39
rickspencer3hi seb12814:39
cyphermoxrickspencer3, great, thanks for the news. I'll still have some more stuff to fix in it for memory usage... what about the lack of signal strength icons for available wifi networks? ;)14:40
rickspencer3that would be nice to have14:41
cyphermoxheheh14:44
mterryseb128, can you give https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/launchpad-integration/0.1.45 builds a kick in the pants?  Seems to be a temporary blockage during the great rebuild yesterday14:44
seb128mterry, ok, I fixed the python issue for sure14:44
seb128not sure what's going on with mono14:44
seb128let's see what retry does14:44
seb128mterry, can you upload your nautilus-share work btw?14:45
seb128mterry, the patch to clean libgnomeui use14:45
mterryseb128, I had some mono upgrade issues yesterday, but it was fixed today14:45
mdeslaurcyphermox: thanks for fixing evo!14:45
mterryseb128, oh, sure...  Can dig that out14:45
mterryseb128, I can look at new glade too14:45
seb128mterry, cyphermox said he would do glade14:45
mterryoh missed that14:45
cyphermoxmdeslaur, works better now?14:45
seb128so talk with him ;-)14:45
mdeslaurcyphermox: yep, calendar now works14:46
mdeslaurcyphermox: still have the weird junk folder read issue though14:46
cyphermoxyeah, next step :)14:46
mdeslaurcyphermox: did you manage to reproduce that one? I can try in a pristine VM14:46
cyphermoxyup, I can14:46
mdeslaurcyphermox: ah, cool14:46
cyphermoxI also know roughly where that code is from looking at it before, so I'll try to debug it14:47
mdeslaurcyphermox: sweet, thanks14:47
cyphermoxmterry, take glade if you want, I'll look at evo ;)14:47
seb128mterry, if you want to pick on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/68770114:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 687701 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Update to 4.81 and merge with Debian experimental (affects: 1) (heat: 437)" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:48
seb128that could be nice14:48
mterrycyphermox, ok14:48
seb128seems robert_ancell got stucked with it14:48
seb128mterry, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60799239/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.launchpad-integration_0.1.45_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:49
seb128mono still unhappy14:49
seb128we need someone with a pbuilder to try install it to see the issue14:49
mterryseb128, hrm, OK14:49
mterryseb128, I can look14:49
seb128thanks14:49
cyphermoxmdeslaur, I guess I'll do for evo as for e-d-s and backport the fixes from git (as I was about to do anyway) and at the same time debug the spam / read all bug14:54
mdeslaurcyphermox: nice14:54
mterryseb128, I built launchpad-integration just fine in an amd64 chroot...15:25
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seb128mterry, weird, do you have an universe source?15:46
seb128could be a bin not promoted15:46
Laneymterry: we were going to do both of those changes15:46
Laneyinfact I already did fix gkeyfile-sharp in git15:46
Laneyand we were going to fix banshee with a 1.9.1 upload to experimental15:46
Laneybut thanks ;)15:47
mterryseb128, ah yes!  it was in my universe chroot.  I'll try one in just main15:47
* mterry is silly15:47
mterryLaney, ah, ok, good.  :)15:47
Laneyit would be nice if you could file a /debian/ bug about libkarma though15:48
cyphermoxoh, glade-3 3.7.2 is hot.16:00
cyphermoxmvo, glade 3.7.2 doesn't seem to crash when I try to work in synaptic's window_main.ui :D16:01
mvoha!16:01
mvonice :)16:01
rickspencer3cyphermox, like the tabbed document windows?16:02
rickspencer3(for Glade)16:02
cyphermoxrickspencer3, tabbed document windows?16:03
rickspencer3in Glade16:03
rickspencer3each project gets a tab  now, instead of pulling down the Project menu16:03
cyphermoxright16:03
cyphermoxyeah, but I'm just happy it doesn't crash when trying to edit synaptic's main window ui def :)16:04
cyphermoxor actually, when you save the settings16:04
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rickspencer3I love how evo sends multiple copies of each of my emails16:39
rickspencer3at least I don't have to worry about people *not* getting my messages16:39
dpmhi njpatel. Quick question: I see that the translation templates in Launchpad for unity, unity-place-applications and unity-place-files have not changed since maverick (I mean e.g. those in the list at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/ca). Have the texts not changed at all, or is it simply that the translation templates have not been updated? I'd like to make a call for translation contributions to Unity, but I want to make sure e16:45
dpmverything's set up before that16:45
njpateldpm, the -place-files and -place-apps haven't really changed16:45
njpateldpm, unity has changed (we haven't got all the strings yet), it probably just needs updating16:45
njpateldpm, bbiab16:45
dpmok, thanks16:46
mptmvo, hi, did you ever pick up the pt_BR translation of USC that Sergio Cipolla sent us?16:46
seb128njpatel, help!16:47
seb128njpatel, the unity install is b0rked16:48
seb128njpatel_, there?16:49
seb128njpatel_, I've issues with the unity update16:51
mvompt: yeah, I have a mail from him, but iirc it was for 2.0 (based on debian)16:51
mptoh, I didn't realize that16:52
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njpatelseb128, hey16:52
seb128njpatel, hello16:52
seb128help me ;-)16:52
mptmsgid "Install - Free"16:52
mptso it is16:52
mvompt: I need to double check, but iirc that was the reason why I did not applied it to trunk16:52
njpatelseb128, what's up dude? :)16:52
mvompt: aha, thanks :) maybe he wants to update it still?16:52
njpateldid I make a boo boo?16:52
mptmvo, maybe. He can just do that on Launchpad, right?16:53
mvoyeah16:53
mvodid he mail you?16:53
seb128njpatel, unity does its make install in $(destdi)$(curdir)...16:53
Amaranth*facepalm*16:53
seb128not sure why16:54
seb128njpatel, like I get the files in debian/tmp/home/user/build/unity/...16:54
seb128rather than having them in debian/tmp/usr/share16:54
njpatelhmm16:54
njpatelseb128, is this the unity image file?16:54
seb128image file?16:54
njpatelor are they all going into the wrong place ?16:54
seb128libunityshell.so16:55
seb128is going there16:55
Amaranththe compiz plugin16:55
* Amaranth hides16:55
cyphermoxseb128, glade3 3.7.2: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/glade-3/3.7.2-0ubuntu1/+merge/4406416:55
njpatelseb128, hmm, nothing has changed.... is the packaging setting the right cmake options?16:55
seb128chrisccoulson, mterry: ^ could you review and sponsor?16:55
seb128njpatel, the current version fails the same way, so it's something on my system, great :-(16:56
seb128or in compiz16:56
seb128njpatel, do you know where it gets the compiz path from?16:56
AmaranthTime to poke smsplillaz, he wrote the compiz build system16:56
cyphermoxbbiab, lunch and some errands.16:58
njpatelseb128, oh, yeah, there is some findCompiz.cmake or something16:58
njpatelseb128, I'm not sure if it's magic or not, though....16:59
njpateli've never tried to build unity locally16:59
Amaranthseb128: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/annotate/head%3A/CMakeLists.txt#L8616:59
AmaranthThat's where it talks to the bits smsplillaz wrote, which is in /usr/share/compiz/cmake/CompizPlugin.cmake17:00
seb128I'm not nfc about cmake17:01
AmaranthYeah, I hear you there17:01
AmaranthIt's just as magic as most autotools stuff is to me17:01
Amaranthseb128: http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/tree/cmake/CompizPlugin.cmake#n45 looks relevant17:03
seb128        dh_auto_configure -- -DCOMPIZ_BUILD_WITH_RPATH=FALSE -DCOMPIZ_PACKAGING_ENABLED=TRUE -DCOMPIZ_PLUGIN_INSTALL_TYPE=package17:04
seb128is what unity does17:04
Amaranthwell dang17:04
seb128    set (prefix ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}                   CACHE PATH "prefix")17:05
njpatelseb128, is this in pbuilder or bzr bd?17:05
seb128njpatel, bzr bd or debuild in an unpackaged dir17:05
njpatelwhat happens in pbuilder?17:05
seb128I don't use pbuilder17:05
seb128I don't really fancy setting on up now17:05
seb128I can upload to a ppa though17:05
Amaranthseb128: check your environment, perhaps you have an override for one of those17:06
njpatelyeah, that's a good enough test17:06
seb128Amaranth, I doubt17:06
Amaranthseb128: or BUILD_GLOBAL17:06
seb128$ env | grep -i compiz17:06
seb128$17:06
seb128njpatel, ok, second question, where is the list of requirements in cmake world?17:07
seb128njpatel, like where do you say you need nux 0.9.1217:07
seb128like what do I diff to see if the build-depends need to be updated17:07
njpatelseb128, they are scattered in evey CMakeLists.txt17:08
SarvattCMakeLists.txt?17:08
seb128njpatel, so you don't need the new nux?17:08
seb128or you just didn't update the requirements?17:08
njpatelseb128, I've tried to keep it sane by declaring UNITY_PLUGIN_DEPS in the main one, but it's not always used17:08
njpatelseb128, didn't update requirements, as I don't know how to ask for a specific version yet17:09
njpatelseb128, I'll check17:09
seb128njpatel, don't bother, just let me know what I need to update17:09
seb128just the new nux I guess17:09
seb128new dee as well?17:09
njpatelseb128, new dee and nux17:10
seb128ups17:12
seb128njpatel, I've uploaded to the ppa let's see17:13
seb128Amaranth, is there a config.log equivalent for cmake?17:16
* Amaranth tries to remember what config.log does17:16
AmaranthThere is CMakeCache.txt17:17
seb128it lists the values of the variable17:17
seb128like $prefix and others17:17
Amaranthyeah, that'd probably be CMakeCache.txt17:17
seb128the ppa hates me, 7 hours before building17:20
Amarantheep17:20
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seb128ok, build got rescored, great17:23
seb128njpatel, do you still plan to be around for a bit?17:23
njpatelseb128, yep, will be logged on, even if moving around17:24
* njpatel needs to tidy his room17:24
rickspencer3seb128, so I wrote a plugin that adds a menu item to gedit17:36
rickspencer3I can't help noticing that it's not there :/17:36
seb128seems your code is buggy ;-)17:36
seb128njpatel, ok, new unity running17:36
njpateloh sweet17:37
seb128dnd in the launcher is neat17:37
rickspencer3njpatel, I just dist-ugraded too, look nice17:37
seb128the "no menu displayed" is weird17:37
seb128rickspencer3, you don't have the new unity yet, it's just on my disk17:38
seb128or do you use the daily ppa?17:38
njpatelseb128, yeah, I think the menubar stuff will get tweaked17:38
njpatelthis wouldn't have landed in daily yet17:38
njpatelespecially as nux wasn't ready17:38
seb128ok17:38
seb128so the ppa build failed17:38
njpatelaawww :(17:39
seb128but not because of that17:39
njpatelyay :)17:39
njpatel;)17:39
seb128so I still don't know if that's specific to my box17:39
rickspencer3seb128, I just said I dist-upgraded17:39
seb128I workarounded the .install to move things at the right place there17:39
rickspencer3I'm not crazy enough to run that daily crack17:39
seb128;-)17:39
njpatelrickspencer3, oi! :)17:39
njpatelit's not crack when it's awesome :)17:39
rickspencer3hehe17:39
njpatelrickspencer3, alt+d and alt+h work in gedit, ted fixed it :)17:40
* njpatel didn't realise17:40
rickspencer3sweet!17:41
rickspencer3and arrowing goes from application menus over to indicators17:41
rickspencer3interesting17:41
njpatelyep17:41
njpatelall one big piece17:41
njpateloh wow17:42
rickspencer3that's really easy to use17:42
njpatelfound an interesting bug17:42
njpateloh wait, it's not a bug17:42
njpatelwell it is, bug I found it in the wrong place17:42
* njpatel needs sleep17:42
rickspencer3njpatel, thank you for giving me back my alt keys17:43
njpateloh, whats the industry standard way to open the first menu?17:43
njpatelrickspencer3, np, but they are only on loan17:43
rickspencer3along with "launch in new window" i can really rock again17:43
rickspencer3bastards!17:43
rickspencer3do I have to put in a credit card number to keep them working?17:43
njpatelIt's because we know better17:43
njpatelYes, CC will do fine, thanks17:43
seb128njpatel, compiz crash when I run ccsm now17:44
njpatelseb128, urgh, where abouts does it crash?17:44
seb128#0  0x00f5ef8d in sigc::signal_base::impl() const ()17:46
seb128   from /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.017:46
seb128#1  0x00f5f475 in sigc::signal_base::connect(sigc::slot_base const&) ()17:46
seb128   from /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.017:46
seb128#2  0x02505a74 in UnityScreen::UnityScreen(CompScreen*) ()17:46
seb128   from /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so17:46
seb128#3  0x02508224 in CompPlugin::VTableForScreenAndWindow<UnityScreen, UnityWindow>::initScreen(CompScreen*) () from /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so17:46
seb128njpatel, ^17:46
njpateler17:47
njpatelis there a mismatch?17:47
seb128between?17:47
njpatelI guess there can't be17:47
njpatelcompiz and unity17:47
seb128well I'm uptodate on natty for both17:48
njpatelyeah, as am I17:48
njpatelseb128, does it keep happening?17:48
seb128njpatel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/544959/17:48
seb128njpatel, yes, 3 times in a row17:49
njpatelDBO, <seb128> njpatel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/544959/17:49
njpatelDBO, this is with compiz in natty and unity release packages17:49
njpatelseb128, are you on amd 64? can you share the unity .debs?17:50
DBOwho got that trace?17:50
DBOseb128, can you install the dbg packages...17:50
njpatelseb, he's testing the unity release packages17:50
seb128njpatel, no, i38617:50
njpatelseb128, okay, so trace with debuggin symbols if possible, please17:52
seb128DBO, njpatel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544963/17:53
seb128let me install the compiz ones as well17:53
njpatelinteresting17:53
njpatelwt->RedrawRequested.connect (sigc::mem_fun (this, &UnityScreen::onRedrawRequested));17:54
DBOthats what is crashing?17:54
njpatelthat's the line that does the .connect and causes the crash17:55
njpatelseb128, sigc++ dbg too, please17:55
DBOwt must be null...17:56
njpatelso CreateFromForeignWindow failed?17:57
njpatelthat's no good17:57
DBOadd a check I guess17:57
njpatellets see the full trace17:58
seb128DBO, njpatel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544965/17:58
njpatelseb128, hmm, possible to get one last one with sigc dbg?18:00
njpatelseb128, I also have a fully updated system and I'm not sure why this isn't happening here :/18:01
seb128sure, I'm stupid I install the wrong dbg one18:01
AmaranthDBO, njpatel: smspillaz said there was a problem with unloading the unityshell plugin and loading it again18:01
DBOyeah I believe it18:02
AmaranthWhich unfortunately happens almost every time you change anything in ccsm (and probably when you open it too)18:02
njpatelseb128, is this happening through ccsm?18:02
njpatelseb128, or compiz --replace?18:02
seb128njpatel, run unity18:02
seb128run ccsm18:02
seb128unity crashes18:02
AmaranthNo no, I mean unload/reload the plugin, not all of compiz18:02
seb128I was trying to see if the ccsm icon is working18:02
AmaranthWhich is what seb128 is seeing18:02
njpatelseb128, not here :/18:02
seb128njpatel, I've libsgc-dbg18:02
seb128the dbg must be buggy18:02
njpatelhold up18:02
njpatelhah18:02
* DBO rebuilds nux18:03
seb128I get lot of18:04
seb128** (<unknown>:11696): CRITICAL **: bamf_application_get_desktop_file: assertion `BAMF_IS_APPLICATION (application)' failed18:04
seb128(<unknown>:11696): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `BamfWindow' to `BamfApplication18:04
seb128on the unity stdout,err as well18:04
seb128but I guess that's a different issue18:04
njpatelseb128, it should be something like libsigc++2.0-dbg, no?18:04
DBOseb128, thats the panel service18:04
DBOi dont know what njpatel is doing18:04
seb128njpatel, I installed libsigc++-2.0-0c2a-dbgsym18:04
njpatelDBO, it's not me you tart, it's the indicators!18:05
DBOnjpatel, its you18:05
njpatelseb128, yeah, i think that's for a different thing18:05
njpatelDBO, i don't remember using bamf in the service....but honestly I could be wrong18:05
seb128#0  0x00f5ef8d in sigc::signal_base::impl() const ()18:05
seb128   from /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.018:05
seb128$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.018:05
seb128libsigc++-2.0-0c2a: /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.018:05
seb128libsigc++-2.0-0c2a-dbsym18:05
seb128njpatel, not sure why it's buggy :-(18:06
njpatelseb128, sorry, I'm stumped18:08
seb128njpatel, I'm rebuilding libsigc in case18:08
njpatelseb128, if it runs normally, any chance of letting this one slide? :)18:09
Amaranthpretty sure that's not a new bug anyway18:09
seb128njpatel, oh, I didn't mean that as a blocker for the update18:09
njpatelDBO, should we be initialising at all when loaded by ccsm? is there no way to detect that it's ccsm so ignore it?18:09
Amaranthsmspillaz said the crash he saw had something to do with signals and reloading the unityshell plugin18:09
seb128njpatel, I was just pointing what I get while testing18:09
njpatelAmaranth, heh, right18:09
njpatelyeah18:10
njpatelI will take a look when my brain works18:10
seb128Amaranth, it was not happening before today though18:10
AmaranthIdeally compiz wouldn't be unloading every plugin all the time like that but you'd have to rewrite the function wrapper system to fix it18:10
AmaranthTo use signals/slots instead of a linked list18:11
seb128I had the crash before when unticking unity in ccsm18:11
seb128not on the ccsm run18:11
Amaranthah, that's odd18:11
seb128njpatel, should https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/686419 be closed?18:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 686419 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Intellihide: Fails to hide when restoring an overlapping window (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:15
njpatelseb128, oh, yeah, let me do that18:16
seb128njpatel, same for https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/68373518:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 683735 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Can't switch to another application when in expose mode (affects: 2) (heat: 212)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:16
* kenvandine hasn't figured out the whole intellihide thing18:16
njpatelseb128, done and done, thanks18:17
seb128njpatel, thank you18:17
njpatelkenvandine, once you've experienced it, you can never go back18:17
kenvandinenjpatel, how do you make it work?18:17
njpatel(you guys don't know the level of restraint I'm showing here by not saying a bunch of jokes after that)18:17
kenvandinehaha!18:17
njpatelkenvandine, with autohide enabled, move a window away from the launcher, and if there is space, the launcher will show and won't autohide. If you then move the window back or maximize, the launcher hides18:18
kenvandinehow do you enable it?18:18
njpatelkenvandine, it's an option in ccsm under unity plugin18:19
kenvandineno... well not for me :)18:19
kenvandinei have autohide and float18:19
njpateloh, it might be just default18:22
njpatelDBO, would know for sure18:22
DBOintellihide and float are off by default18:22
DBOfloat does nothing18:22
jcastroAmaranth: sorry, I screwed this up, I was just trying to link the upstream virtualbox bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/67530718:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 675307 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "compiz can't load plugins and won't run in VirtualBox (affects: 17) (heat: 90)" [Undecided,New]18:22
kenvandineDBO, so how do i enable it?18:23
kenvandinegsettings?18:23
DBOenable what?18:23
kenvandineintellihide18:23
jcastroccsm18:24
DBOin ccsm18:24
Amaranthjcastro: oh well, it links to the right upstream bug anyway18:24
kenvandinei have no intellihide option in ccsm18:24
njpatelDBO, what in ccsm, he doesn't see the option18:24
kenvandinewtf!18:24
jcastroclick on the button18:24
Amaranthkenvandine: it's the autohide option18:24
DBOyou need to click the UnityShell button18:24
kenvandinei have autohide and float18:24
DBOat the bottom18:24
kenvandine?18:24
* Amaranth fixes the disconnect18:24
jcastroit's non obvious, but the thing next to the checkbox is also a button18:24
kenvandineautohide isn't a section...18:24
kenvandineoh!18:24
Amaranthautohide also turns on intellihide18:25
njpatelAmaranth earns 1000points for being descriptive18:25
kenvandinehumm... no... the button on the right of the checkbox?18:25
kenvandinethat resets the default18:25
jcastroyes18:25
jcastrohttp://i.imgur.com/fZC8n.png18:26
jcastrodo you see that?18:26
mterryseb128, btw, figured out the launchpad-integration failure.  libmono-system-data-linq2.0-cil is a new binary package in the in-main source package 'mono'.  We got it via debian auto-sync.  So I guess that binary package has to be put in main?18:27
kenvandinejcastro, yes... i see that18:27
njpatelmterry, dude, thanks for all the unity patching!18:27
Amaranthkenvandine: enabling autohide enables intellihide18:27
Amaranthcheck that box18:27
njpatelmterry, will get the modelines in when i get a spare sec18:27
mterrynjpatel, np.  :)18:27
kenvandineso it is the same option?18:27
jcastroyes18:27
Amaranthbecause why would you want anything but intellihide? :)18:27
seb128mterry, right18:27
mterrynjpatel, sure.  It's a likely-to-conflict branch, I'm not surprised it had issues when you got to it.  :)18:28
seb128mterry, can you ping jdstrand about that?18:28
kenvandinejcastro, so that isn't a button :)18:28
seb128it's his archive admin day18:28
kenvandineyou were making me feel crazy18:28
jcastrokenvandine: in the screen before it's a button I mean18:28
njpatelmterry, you updated it, though, right?18:28
kenvandineok... it is always autohiding for me18:28
mterrynjpatel, ys18:28
njpatelor maybe I was reading mails in wrong order18:28
njpatelah, okay18:28
jcastrokenvandine: it's non obvious, let's jettison ccsm as soon as possible18:28
* kenvandine plays with that more later18:28
njpatelhence will try to get it in while trunk is somewhat sane :)18:28
jcastrokenvandine: just take a non maximized window and move it back and forth close to the dock18:28
kenvandinejcastro, i am... it stays hidden18:29
kenvandineunless i move my mouse to the left18:29
jcastrobasically, if there's room, it will unhide, if you maximize or move anything close to it, it hides, it basically decides if it's in the way or not18:29
kenvandineyeah, i saw that in jono's video18:29
kenvandinebut couldn't understand why it didn't do the same for me :)18:29
jcastrowfm, maybe wait for the new update today?18:30
njpatelseb128, is the rest of the release okay?18:30
kenvandineoh... actually it works for me on my other workspaces18:30
seb128njpatel, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/3.2.8-0ubuntu118:30
seb128njpatel, let's see if it builds18:31
njpatelseb128, i love you18:31
kenvandinefor some reason it seems to think here isn't room on the first workspace...18:31
jcastrokenvandine: oh ok, so it works so it's just buggy.18:31
seb128njpatel, I still don't get that prefix issue18:31
seb128njpatel, I workarounded locally18:31
njpatelseb128, nor do I, hopefully it doesn't effect the build18:31
jcastrokenvandine: the only annoying bit is the icons underneath still line up wrong so that can suck but I moved them away for now18:31
* kenvandine would rather not have the icons there...18:32
kenvandineanyway... cool18:32
seb128njpatel, DBO: great work18:34
njpatelheh, thanks :)18:35
DBOI did something?18:35
njpatelDBO, no, you still suck, move on18:35
DBOrighto18:35
seb128;-)18:36
seb128DBO, I like the launcher dnd18:36
DBOseb128, im glad it works for you18:36
DBOit feels good I think18:36
DBOdont thank me, thank SuperNux18:36
seb128it's so much snappier than the old unity18:37
* DBO wonders if nux 1.0 could be called SuperNux18:37
seb128brb session restart18:37
jcastroI can't wait to play with the launcher D&D18:39
seb128re18:41
seb128njpatel, ok, so the unity session compiz is still there, should I just roll back to the version with broken menus?18:41
seb128compiz crash18:41
seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/3.2.8-0ubuntu118:44
seb128\o/18:44
seb128njpatel, Amaranth: it built on the buildds18:44
seb128everybody could you try to install the new unity and see if it works for you in the next hours?18:45
seb128I would hate to leave for the end of year with unity broken18:45
bcurtiswxseb128, will do as soon as it gets to me18:45
seb128bcurtiswx, thanks!18:45
seb128bcurtiswx, hey btw how are you?18:45
bcurtiswxseb128, doing OK.  didn't think i would have today online but snow closed most things here in Washington, DC18:46
seb128bcurtiswx, you are in holidays now?18:46
seb128how did your last day before break go?18:46
seb128hehe18:47
bcurtiswxseb128, yes.  I took my last final yesterday.  Plans on driving to New York State tomorrow morning to be with family :)18:47
seb128great18:47
bcurtiswxi worked with robert_ancell last night to try to progress more in empathy.. seems i keep hitting walls :(18:47
seb128empathy is not an easy one18:48
seb128don't get demotivated18:48
seb128you did fix some builds ;-)18:48
bcurtiswxseb128, i appreciate all the desktop team has helped me with.  Since I'm learning I expect things to go slow :)  when do your holidays start?18:49
seb128now ;-)18:49
seb128well today18:49
seb128I still want to wrap up some things18:49
seb128like revert the compiz change from yesterday maybe18:49
bcurtiswxseb128, bonus points for devotion :)18:49
seb128hehe18:49
seb128it breaks the menus but unity starts at least18:50
seb128where now it crashes in the unity session18:50
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/69156118:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 691561 in compiz (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "compiz crash on login to Unity desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed]18:50
bcurtiswxmine just sits at the desktop with no unity and the spinner shows18:50
bcurtiswxim guessing its that, yes18:50
seb128yes18:51
seb128you can log into the classic session and activate unity there18:51
seb128that works18:51
seb128dinner18:52
seb128bbl18:52
bcurtiswxput the terminal on your desktop and you can compiz --replace to workaround18:52
mterryseb128, btw, mono package promoted.  And a follow-up from yesterday, launchpad-integration and libunique are now in the desktop set18:54
Amaranthhmm, dist-upgrade wants to remove unity19:04
* Amaranth hopes it's a small transition and waits for the new unity package19:04
Amaranthoh, it's because of the new nux19:21
bcurtiswxanyone know what this error means: src/Makefile.am: object `empathy-accounts-dialog.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without19:25
seb128re19:38
seb128mterry, ok, great19:38
seb128mterry, you should apply for main upload btw ;-)19:38
seb128Amaranth, right, new unity has built it needs to be published now19:38
mterryseb128, naw, I just have to keep expanding the definition of desktop19:38
mterry:)19:39
seb128desktop taking over ;-)19:39
bcurtiswxsrc/Makefile.am: object `empathy-accounts-dialog.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without20:15
bcurtiswxwhats that means?20:15
mterryIs unity supposed to be broken right now?20:32
kenvandinemterry, not that i know o20:35
kenvandine+f20:35
mterrykenvandine, latest version appears briefly then disappers and leaves me with a spinning cursor.  Can't find anything in xsession-errors or /var/crash20:35
kenvandineah20:36
kenvandinei think seb was chasing that early20:36
kenvandinecompiz crashing at start or something20:37
Amaranthmterry: It's a glib issue but the workaround in compiz for it caused menus to go under windows or something20:37
mterryhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/69156120:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 691561 in compiz (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "compiz crash on login to Unity desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix released]20:37
mterryLooks like I just have to sit tight while the workaround is rebuilt20:38
lateniteHi folks, my new ubuntu box can not go online. http://pastebin.com/E6kUYmT8 192.168..4.101 is my own DNS What did I do wrong?20:49
devildante!support | latenite20:50
ubot2latenite: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org20:50
latenitedevildante, oh ok, thanks a lot :)20:50
devildantelatenite: np ;)20:51

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