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fabrice_spmicahg, if you are still interested in dolphin-emu: I advocated it yesterday, so it's only missing another look from a sponsor. You can find it at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8783 (this apply to other sponsors as well :-) )05:09
micahgfabrice_sp: well, I can review everything except the licensing, that I'm still not sure on05:09
fabrice_spmicahg, licensing is the hard part of new packages05:10
fabrice_spand this one mix a lot of different ones05:10
mase_wki am packaging up some PHP libraries which are used with a framework.  I  have src( .php ) XSL and documentation. I was wondering where  each is meant to live05:11
glennricsterfabrice_sp:  I must agree.  Licensing is the hard part for sure.05:13
fabrice_sphey glennricster ! You can speak about it :-)05:16
fabrice_spmase_wk, have a look at a similar package to be sure you install the files in the right places05:16
glennricsterYeah.  I still don't think I have it right though.  dolphin-emu has such a mess of licensing in its files.05:17
fabrice_spoh: I'll check in detail this week end, then: it's a huge work, with all that file with different licenses05:17
glennricsterI told the other dolphin-emu devs I would work on getting it into Ubuntu.  After this I think I will stick with coding.05:18
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fabrice_spplease don't disappear after having your package into Ubuntu05:18
mase_wkfabrice_sp: that doesn't help me. None of the libraries have yet been packaged and i haven't foudn any other packages within ubuntu / debian that have the sort of dependance between xsl and php files05:18
glennricsterI will maintain it.  That won't be as hard as getting the copyright file set up.05:19
mase_wki can find other php projects so i  can copy that, just not sure where to jam the xsl libraries05:19
glennricsterI won't disappear.  Don't worry.05:19
glennricsterfabrice_sp:  I learned some new things from you in the process.  The dh.tiny format is quite nice.05:20
fabrice_spglennricster,  :-) Yeah, and easier to maintain than the full dh format, IMHO05:21
glennricsterYeah, it would seem so. :)05:21
fabrice_spmase_wk, perhaps ask in ubuntu-server: they may know better than me or wait here until someone else answers you05:22
mase_wkk05:22
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RhondaSomething seems to be going awkwardly wrong with planet.ubuntu, I see a big grey area at the top blocking out the first someting blog entries?10:13
cdbsRhonda: Its fine for me10:49
cdbsI can't see any gray area10:50
azeem_Rhonda: maybe that is your spam blocker which removed buxy's latest post10:50
Rhondaazeem_: haha. not. And strangely, it works again. The theme seems to be switched back also, so I guess someone was working on it.10:51
RhondaWhen inspecing with firebug the footer div did cover the top of the page in very big parts.10:52
* ari-tczew is listening to: The Underdog Project - Summer Jam | put your hands up!12:28
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ScottKtumbleweed: Could you look into what's up with Debian bug 575581?  In the bug it claims a fix has been uploaded to Debian, but I don't see it.18:28
ubottuDebian bug 575581 in postgrey "postgrey: Upgrade from Lenny to Testing fails with db error" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/57558118:28
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djeenanhello19:35
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sistpotyhm... we need more ppl. working on http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi20:44
ScottKWe do.20:50
ScottKsistpoty: There's some ongoing work to produce better documentation on how to deal with the linker issues that should be available around new years.  Hopefully that will help.20:51
hakermaniaHello :)20:55
sistpotyScottK: excellent :)20:58
evaluatemore people for?21:05
sistpotyevaluate: look at the link, these are packages that fail to build on ubuntu/natty21:06
evaluatesistpoty, so I get it you need people to fix those build issues? (btw, I'm new to packaging myself, I'm just trying to get more involved with ubuntu/debian)...21:08
sistpotyevaluate: exactly21:08
evaluatesistpoty, is there any place I could actually download a package that is listed there? (source + debian)21:10
sistpotyevaluate: if you're on natty, it's just apt-get source <package>... otherwise I'm usually using packages.ubuntu.com/src:<source package name>21:11
sistpotyevaluate: of course launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<source package name> should also lead you to a link21:12
evaluatesistpoty, unfortunately I need a stable system for my work, so I'm still on maverick (and will probably be for the time being)21:12
sistpotyheh21:12
evaluatesistpoty, say I make some changes to a package and believe that it may build correctly, is there any place I can upload it to test a build or do I need to build it locally?21:13
sistpotyevaluate: you could use a PPA (certainly described in the wiki somewhere), however I prefer to build locally using pbuilder21:14
sistpoty(PPA=personal package archive)21:15
evaluatesistpoty, yes, I have a PPA myself, I know what that is :p I don't have any experience with pbuilder though...21:16
sistpoty!pbuilder > evaluate21:16
ubottuevaluate, please see my private message21:16
* sistpoty pets ubottu21:16
evaluatesistpoty, ok, and I guess I will have to do that on natty, right?21:16
* evaluate opens virtualbox21:16
sistpotyevaluate: you should be able to create a pbuilder-chroot on an older version. Also you can use a ppa to build for natty while on lucid for example21:17
evaluateyeah, but as far as I could see (at least on my PPA), sometimes it takes up to one hour of waiting for a package to be built, I wouldn't have the nerves to wait for that while debugging a package. I guess I'll go with the virtualbox option...21:19
sistpotyevaluate: yeah, that's why I build locally. however pbuilder (which essentially creates a chroot) could be used to build for a different distribution...21:19
sistpoty(build locally for me means to use pbuilder btw)21:20
evaluatesistpoty, I like my main system to be neat & clean, and I guess that pbuilder would also install all dependencies that a package needs, everytime I do a test run, I wouldn't want that on my main system...21:20
sistpotyevaluate: no, it uses a chroot for this, not the main system21:21
hakermaniaevaluate: After installing a package and "apt-get remove" it you can see which packages are not longer required (where dependencies of uninstalled programs)21:22
evaluateI'll do it in a VB anyway, I've got the processing power :p21:22
sistpotyheh, you lucky one :)21:22
evaluatesistpoty, it's just a laptop, so if you have a desktop computer, you probably got more processing power than me anyway :p21:24
sistpotyheh21:25
evaluatehmm. Virtualbox 4 doesn't let me attach any iso images to my machines.21:28
evaluatesistpoty, I did read something about a 'natty weekly build' somewhere. Does something like this exist, or did I just understand wrong?21:30
sistpotyevaluate: I'm not aware of that, tbh.21:32
evaluateok then, I'll just use the alpha image I have laying around here...21:33
sistpotyevaluate: there should be daily images though: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/21:35
sistpotyevaluate: however I'm not too sure of what quality these are at the current phase in the development cycle21:36
sistpoty(bug reports are always appreciated *g*)21:36
evaluatehmm, nice21:38
evaluatevirtualbox 4.0 beta won't let me choose a iso to add to a virtual machine and the virtualbox that ubuntu comes with, restarts my X session :-\21:38
sistpoty*whispering pbuilder at evaluate*21:39
evaluatethere seems to be a new beta4 of the 4.0 version, if that doesn't work either, I'm going to go with pbuilder :p21:40
ScottKsudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools, pbuilder-dist natty create, then pbuilder-dist natty build <pkg_version>.dsc to build.21:41
sistpotys/,/;/ s/then// might almost work as a shell script :)21:42
evaluatethere is still hope!21:47
evaluatebeta4 actually works. I'm installing it right now and will be ready to go in ~15 min :-)21:47
evaluateok, I've managed to setup pbuilder and tried downloading and building clutter-gtk.22:26
evaluateand I've got a totally different error than what is on ftbfs: http://pastebin.com/xpxR9NkK22:28
evaluate(I imagine though that I might just eat up your time instead of actually helping, in which case you can just ignore me)22:29
sistpotyevaluate: looks like the package that clutter-gtk build-depends on changed22:30
sistpotyfrom a quick glimpse, I'd probably mark gir1.0-clutter-1.0 as the package causing b-d's not to be installed correctly22:31
ebroderbdrung: It seems a little weird for a script called "update-maintainer" to start mucking with things other than the Maintainer field22:31
bdrungebroder: really? i think it belongs together.22:32
evaluatesistpoty, btw, I got the package from here: http://pastebin.com/gDBGyZXD . Not sure if it's the correct/latest one...22:32
bdrungebroder: changed maintainer => changed development location22:32
ebroderbdrung: I'm not saying they shouldn't be the same tool. I'm musing about whether we should rename the tool22:33
bdrungebroder: do you have a better name?22:33
ebroderbdrung: Uh... "update-control"? Not really, though22:33
bdrungyes, not really22:34
bdrungebroder: btw, thanks for the backportpackage script22:35
hakermaniaupdate-maintainer-and-other-things22:35
hakermaniaxD22:35
bdrungupdate-maintainer-in-debian-control-and-update-vcs-fields-too22:35
evaluatesistpoty, is there anything I need/can do about that package, or should I choose another one?22:36
sistpotyevaluate: actually, it looks like the package you installed is the correct one22:37
sistpotyevaluate: I'm not entirely sure if depending packages have been rebuilt to pick up the new version already, which might explain the failure you got22:38
sistpotyevaluate: I'd suggest to pick another package22:38
evaluatesistpoty, ok :-)22:38
tumbleweedScottK: sure, will do23:04
evaluatewhat would be the correct way to make a change to a source file?23:59

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