=== nenolod_ is now known as nenolod [05:09] micahg, if you are still interested in dolphin-emu: I advocated it yesterday, so it's only missing another look from a sponsor. You can find it at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8783 (this apply to other sponsors as well :-) ) [05:09] fabrice_sp: well, I can review everything except the licensing, that I'm still not sure on [05:10] micahg, licensing is the hard part of new packages [05:10] and this one mix a lot of different ones [05:11] i am packaging up some PHP libraries which are used with a framework. I have src( .php ) XSL and documentation. I was wondering where each is meant to live [05:13] fabrice_sp: I must agree. Licensing is the hard part for sure. [05:16] hey glennricster ! You can speak about it :-) [05:16] mase_wk, have a look at a similar package to be sure you install the files in the right places [05:17] Yeah. I still don't think I have it right though. dolphin-emu has such a mess of licensing in its files. [05:17] oh: I'll check in detail this week end, then: it's a huge work, with all that file with different licenses [05:18] I told the other dolphin-emu devs I would work on getting it into Ubuntu. After this I think I will stick with coding. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [05:18] please don't disappear after having your package into Ubuntu [05:18] fabrice_sp: that doesn't help me. None of the libraries have yet been packaged and i haven't foudn any other packages within ubuntu / debian that have the sort of dependance between xsl and php files [05:19] I will maintain it. That won't be as hard as getting the copyright file set up. [05:19] i can find other php projects so i can copy that, just not sure where to jam the xsl libraries [05:19] I won't disappear. Don't worry. [05:20] fabrice_sp: I learned some new things from you in the process. The dh.tiny format is quite nice. [05:21] glennricster, :-) Yeah, and easier to maintain than the full dh format, IMHO [05:21] Yeah, it would seem so. :) [05:22] mase_wk, perhaps ask in ubuntu-server: they may know better than me or wait here until someone else answers you [05:22] k === ara_ is now known as ara === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [10:13] Something seems to be going awkwardly wrong with planet.ubuntu, I see a big grey area at the top blocking out the first someting blog entries? [10:49] Rhonda: Its fine for me [10:50] I can't see any gray area [10:50] Rhonda: maybe that is your spam blocker which removed buxy's latest post [10:51] azeem_: haha. not. And strangely, it works again. The theme seems to be switched back also, so I guess someone was working on it. [10:52] When inspecing with firebug the footer div did cover the top of the page in very big parts. [12:28] * ari-tczew is listening to: The Underdog Project - Summer Jam | put your hands up! === Sarvatt_ is now known as Sarvatt [18:28] tumbleweed: Could you look into what's up with Debian bug 575581? In the bug it claims a fix has been uploaded to Debian, but I don't see it. [18:28] Debian bug 575581 in postgrey "postgrey: Upgrade from Lenny to Testing fails with db error" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/575581 === |sistpoty| is now known as sistpoty [19:35] hello === ximion1 is now known as ximion [20:44] hm... we need more ppl. working on http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi [20:50] We do. [20:51] sistpoty: There's some ongoing work to produce better documentation on how to deal with the linker issues that should be available around new years. Hopefully that will help. [20:55] Hello :) [20:58] ScottK: excellent :) [21:05] more people for? [21:06] evaluate: look at the link, these are packages that fail to build on ubuntu/natty [21:08] sistpoty, so I get it you need people to fix those build issues? (btw, I'm new to packaging myself, I'm just trying to get more involved with ubuntu/debian)... [21:08] evaluate: exactly [21:10] sistpoty, is there any place I could actually download a package that is listed there? (source + debian) [21:11] evaluate: if you're on natty, it's just apt-get source ... otherwise I'm usually using packages.ubuntu.com/src: [21:12] evaluate: of course launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ should also lead you to a link [21:12] sistpoty, unfortunately I need a stable system for my work, so I'm still on maverick (and will probably be for the time being) [21:12] heh [21:13] sistpoty, say I make some changes to a package and believe that it may build correctly, is there any place I can upload it to test a build or do I need to build it locally? [21:14] evaluate: you could use a PPA (certainly described in the wiki somewhere), however I prefer to build locally using pbuilder [21:15] (PPA=personal package archive) [21:16] sistpoty, yes, I have a PPA myself, I know what that is :p I don't have any experience with pbuilder though... [21:16] !pbuilder > evaluate [21:16] evaluate, please see my private message [21:16] * sistpoty pets ubottu [21:16] sistpoty, ok, and I guess I will have to do that on natty, right? [21:16] * evaluate opens virtualbox [21:17] evaluate: you should be able to create a pbuilder-chroot on an older version. Also you can use a ppa to build for natty while on lucid for example [21:19] yeah, but as far as I could see (at least on my PPA), sometimes it takes up to one hour of waiting for a package to be built, I wouldn't have the nerves to wait for that while debugging a package. I guess I'll go with the virtualbox option... [21:19] evaluate: yeah, that's why I build locally. however pbuilder (which essentially creates a chroot) could be used to build for a different distribution... [21:20] (build locally for me means to use pbuilder btw) [21:20] sistpoty, I like my main system to be neat & clean, and I guess that pbuilder would also install all dependencies that a package needs, everytime I do a test run, I wouldn't want that on my main system... [21:21] evaluate: no, it uses a chroot for this, not the main system [21:22] evaluate: After installing a package and "apt-get remove" it you can see which packages are not longer required (where dependencies of uninstalled programs) [21:22] I'll do it in a VB anyway, I've got the processing power :p [21:22] heh, you lucky one :) [21:24] sistpoty, it's just a laptop, so if you have a desktop computer, you probably got more processing power than me anyway :p [21:25] heh [21:28] hmm. Virtualbox 4 doesn't let me attach any iso images to my machines. [21:30] sistpoty, I did read something about a 'natty weekly build' somewhere. Does something like this exist, or did I just understand wrong? [21:32] evaluate: I'm not aware of that, tbh. [21:33] ok then, I'll just use the alpha image I have laying around here... [21:35] evaluate: there should be daily images though: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [21:36] evaluate: however I'm not too sure of what quality these are at the current phase in the development cycle [21:36] (bug reports are always appreciated *g*) [21:38] hmm, nice [21:38] virtualbox 4.0 beta won't let me choose a iso to add to a virtual machine and the virtualbox that ubuntu comes with, restarts my X session :-\ [21:39] *whispering pbuilder at evaluate* [21:40] there seems to be a new beta4 of the 4.0 version, if that doesn't work either, I'm going to go with pbuilder :p [21:41] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools, pbuilder-dist natty create, then pbuilder-dist natty build .dsc to build. [21:42] s/,/;/ s/then// might almost work as a shell script :) [21:47] there is still hope! [21:47] beta4 actually works. I'm installing it right now and will be ready to go in ~15 min :-) [22:26] ok, I've managed to setup pbuilder and tried downloading and building clutter-gtk. [22:28] and I've got a totally different error than what is on ftbfs: http://pastebin.com/xpxR9NkK [22:29] (I imagine though that I might just eat up your time instead of actually helping, in which case you can just ignore me) [22:30] evaluate: looks like the package that clutter-gtk build-depends on changed [22:31] from a quick glimpse, I'd probably mark gir1.0-clutter-1.0 as the package causing b-d's not to be installed correctly [22:31] bdrung: It seems a little weird for a script called "update-maintainer" to start mucking with things other than the Maintainer field [22:32] ebroder: really? i think it belongs together. [22:32] sistpoty, btw, I got the package from here: http://pastebin.com/gDBGyZXD . Not sure if it's the correct/latest one... [22:32] ebroder: changed maintainer => changed development location [22:33] bdrung: I'm not saying they shouldn't be the same tool. I'm musing about whether we should rename the tool [22:33] ebroder: do you have a better name? [22:33] bdrung: Uh... "update-control"? Not really, though [22:34] yes, not really [22:35] ebroder: btw, thanks for the backportpackage script [22:35] update-maintainer-and-other-things [22:35] xD [22:35] update-maintainer-in-debian-control-and-update-vcs-fields-too [22:36] sistpoty, is there anything I need/can do about that package, or should I choose another one? [22:37] evaluate: actually, it looks like the package you installed is the correct one [22:38] evaluate: I'm not entirely sure if depending packages have been rebuilt to pick up the new version already, which might explain the failure you got [22:38] evaluate: I'd suggest to pick another package [22:38] sistpoty, ok :-) [23:04] ScottK: sure, will do [23:59] what would be the correct way to make a change to a source file?