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micahgchrisccoulson: what did you have in mind WRT the internal libpurple in instantbird WRT purple CVEs?00:03
chrisccoulsonhow often does libpurple get updated?00:04
chrisccoulsonoh, of course, it's just pidgin really ;)00:05
micahgchrisccoulson: right00:05
chrisccoulsonwe should make it build with system libpurple when we do the xul2.0 update00:05
micahg8 this year00:05
micahgchrisccoulson: well, it can't ATM since that would defeat the purpose of instantbird instead of pidgin00:06
chrisccoulsonhow come?00:06
micahgchrisccoulson: see discussion I had on #instantbird on i.m.o yesterday00:06
micahgit's heavily patches00:06
micahg*patched00:06
micahgthe integration between libpurple and GTK is very high, whereas instantbird wants to use xul00:07
chrisccoulsonah, ok00:08
micahgThere's a fedora guy with some ideas on how to fix it, I asked him to ping me when he gets that going00:08
micahgin the mean time, one of the instantbird maintainers offered to backport the CVEs and make a new release upstream, I figured if I helped a little with that, it would take care of our immediate issue00:08
micahgchrisccoulson: did you decide when to go on holiday yet?00:13
chrisccoulsoni should be on holiday already really :/00:13
chrisccoulsontrying to get things done before the platform sprint though00:13
micahgisn't that in Feb?00:14
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it's the second week of jan ;)00:16
chrisccoulsonpretty much right after i get back00:16
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, earlier this year00:17
micahgI guess it makes sense, the release was 3 weeks early00:17
ftaBUGabundo, \o/00:38
ftaBUGabundo, got my galaxy tab today00:39
BUGabundocool00:40
BUGabundohow are you liking it so far?00:40
BUGabundoa very diff experience from amazon reader00:40
ftaBUGabundo, i'd say it's complementary00:44
ftaBUGabundo, there's something wrong with my 3G services, i'm supposed to have 60 TV channels, for free, nada00:44
BUGabundowrong APN maybe?00:45
ftaBUGabundo, it's my 1st android, i like it, except for the ads everywhere00:45
BUGabundofta: you gonna really *like adams tablet*00:45
BUGabundoits the best of both world00:45
BUGabundoreally awesome android tablet00:46
BUGabundowith a secondary screen layer in eink tecnology00:46
ftaBUGabundo, i think i'll wait. i already have enough, desktop/laptop/netbook/2 ereaders/tablet00:46
BUGabundolol00:47
BUGabundoI have two android phones (3.2" and 4.3") and a 13.3" laptop00:47
BUGabundoneed a 13" (10-15") tablet with android/chromeos/ubuntu boot :)00:48
ftaBUGabundo, i'll wait for the bigger tablet market to mature a bit00:49
BUGabundo6 to 12 months will be more then enough for it to mature00:49
BUGabundoat the pace of android devices and releases come out00:50
ftaprobably 2y, until my tablet contract expires00:50
BUGabundoI've been using android for almost 18 months now, and the world changed upside down twice already00:50
ftaso i can have the next one cheap too00:50
BUGabundo2y contracts are a bust in this day and age00:50
ftadepends on the price00:51
ftagot that tablet for 39€00:51
BUGabundolol00:52
BUGabundoit costs over 600€ in retail00:53
ftaBUGabundo, i can't automount it on ubuntu, any idea what that could be?00:55
BUGabundoits a samsung limitation, I think00:55
BUGabundousually ppl new to android forget the notification bar, mount SD option00:56
BUGabundobut I think samsung limits their device to KIES software or something00:56
BUGabundo*OR* you may need to run their app in the tab, that allows you to mount it00:57
BUGabundothere's no automount.... at least not with stock00:57
BUGabundoI bough an app for mounting the SD both in the device and PC00:57
ftahm00:59
BUGabundolet me check01:00
BUGabundoahhh01:08
jewsucanusechris, you still around?01:08
BUGabundofta: you need to enable usb debug01:08
ftaBUGabundo, in android? how do i do that?01:09
jewsucanuseor anyone familiar with firefox's bugzilla componenets01:09
BUGabundofta: menu, settings, applications, devel, usb debug01:10
BUGabundofount it? http://img.funtasticus.com/2008/nov/121410daily/daily_9.jpg01:11
ftaBUGabundo, no devel in there :(01:11
ftalol01:11
BUGabundodon't you see a Development?01:11
BUGabundolast entry01:12
BUGabundowhat do you see?01:12
ftaBUGabundo, \o/01:16
BUGabundoyou did it ?01:16
ftayes01:18
ftait's less sexy than mounting the kindle but it works01:19
BUGabundolol01:19
ftaBUGabundo, is there a good pdf reader?01:36
BUGabundothere are few01:36
BUGabundonon AWESOME01:37
BUGabundosome ppl like adobe's but its slow01:37
BUGabundoI have a friend who says he has the best one (for him)01:37
BUGabundobut SGT brings a *very* cool ebook app, doesn't it ?01:38
ftaSGT?01:40
BUGabundoSamsung Galaxy Tab01:41
ftahm, maybe01:42
ftaBUGabundo, you do I close for real those apps, some does, some just hide there and i have to kill them01:42
BUGabundoYOU DON'T01:43
BUGabundothat's the worse habbit (windows)users  have01:43
BUGabundoplease DON'T01:43
BUGabundoread android dev blog, there are *two* great posts on that01:43
ftawell, it just piles up01:43
BUGabundoso what?01:43
BUGabundodoes it really bother you ?01:44
BUGabundoits linux, who cares!01:44
ftai don't know yet ;) i'm new to this world01:44
BUGabundo*if* you reach a point where the OS needs more ram for an app01:44
BUGabundoit will suspend or terminate a non foreground app01:44
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jewsucanusebugabundo, can you test a bug for me?02:46
jewsucanuseoh he's gone02:46
AnAntanyone using cowbuilder ? xulrunner-1.9.2 doesn't seem  to install in a maverick cowbuilder chroot04:44
AnAntalso it causes the processor usage to be 100%04:45
AnAntI mean when it gets installed in a maverick cowbuilder chroot04:45
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ftadpm, ping16:48
ftadpm, (have time for my question from yesterday?)16:48
dpmhi fta, yes16:48
ftagood16:48
dpm(let me think for a sec first...)16:49
dpmI think having milestones as you suggested and doing regular calls for translations would help getting people motivated and focused. In addition to that, I can try to blog about it again, to see if we get more people interested. Milestones and calls for translation work for the majority of OSS projects with a regular schedule, but for Chromium I'm not sure whether we can do this. Is there some sort of roadmap and predictable milestones? That'd be16:54
dpma good start16:54
dpmfta, ^16:54
ftadpm, upstream, it's now one major version every 6 weeks16:55
ftadpm, and we follow that16:55
dpmin any case, I think it would also be useful to have a wiki to put all the information related to Chromium translations, as right now we've only got the announcement and the info you've been adding on e-mails. I had a quick look at the wiki you pointed me to yesterday, but I couldn't figure out a way of editing pages16:56
ftadpm, have a look at this page: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html  (ch 10 in trunk & dev, 9 in beta and 8 in stable, it's a faster pace than before, when lucid got v5 and maverick v6)16:58
ftaat this pace, natty will be released with v11 or v1217:01
dpmfta, thanks. Is there any place with the exact schedule? I.e. with dates or with a calendar that people can subscribe to? This way translators could follow it and better coordinate their work17:02
ftadpm, hm, i don't think so, they officially announced the 6 weeks schedule a few months ago. but i will check17:03
dpmfta, ok, thanks. And do you know more about their wiki? i.e. the question above ^17:03
ftadpm, http://blog.chromium.org/2010/07/release-early-release-often.html17:11
ftadpm, oh, http://dev.chromium.org/developers/calendar17:13
dpmah, nice. Although they only seem to mark releases for dev in their calendar. Am I getting something wrong? I'd expect the stable releases to be there as well17:18
ftadpm, hm, right. i assume it's because the other channels are less predictable. look at the generic workflow at the bottom17:20
jdstrandchrisccoulson, micahg: do you have any idea why seamonkey keeps ending up in main? how is it getting uploaded?17:22
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt17:22
dpmfta, hm, but is that not the old release cycle? It looks to me like the 12 week cycle, rather than the newer 6 week one. I guess the 6 week cycle must look the same but compressed, though17:24
ftadpm, doh!17:24
micahgjdstrand: could the source have accidentally been promoted?17:27
ftadpm, can't find anything about who's allowed to edit the wiki. i think having a login is enough, but i'm not sure17:27
jdstrandmicahg: yes, it was. that was why I asked :)17:28
jdstrandmicahg: what was the process to get it uploaded?17:28
micahgjdstrand: I thought that had to be done by an AA though17:28
jdstrandmicahg: not if it was pocket copied from a ppa17:28
jdstrandmicahg: was it pocket copied from a ppa?17:29
micahgjdstrand: well, the last one I uploaded17:29
* micahg checks logs17:29
micahgjdstrand: oh, 2.0.10 was probably copied from the security PPA to maverick and then to natty17:30
jdstrandmicahg: 2.0.11+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu217:31
ftajdstrand, hi, thanks for chromium17:31
micahgjdstrand: no, that one I uploaded straight to natty17:31
jdstrandfta: sure thing! thanks for the updated packages17:31
jdstrandmicahg: 2.0.11+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1?17:32
micahgjdstrand: idk, chrisccoulson did that17:32
jdstrandso, 2.0.10+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1 was in main, which would explain the subsequent promotions17:32
jdstrandI don't recall doing that, but oh well, it is fixed now17:33
ftajdstrand, i see in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt that emacs21/22 are blacklisted, but emacs23 is not, is that issue solved?17:33
jdstrandif you weren't aware of the ppa issue, if you ever ask an AA to pocket copy from a ppa to the archive, give them the overrides that need to be applied17:33
jdstrandmicahg: ^17:34
jdstrandmicahg: though, if I had to guess, I made the mistake, though I really don't remember it...17:34
micahgjdstrand: ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks17:34
jdstrandfta: I am not familiar with the issue with emacs2317:35
ftajdstrand, ok, n-m. i guess someone forgot to update the blacklist rules17:56
chrisccoulsonwhat's up with seamonkey?18:11
chrisccoulsonmicahg - you haven't tested the 2.0.11 releases by any chance have you?18:12
micahgchrisccoulson: not yet18:13
micahgchrisccoulson: do you need me to test this weekend?18:34
chrisccoulsonmicahg - if you don't mind please. i've not had a chance to do it yet18:34
micahgchrisccoulson: ok, thanks18:35
micahgoops18:35
micahgI meant will do :)18:35
chrisccoulsonthanks :)18:35

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